You and people like you are the reason why I don't go to church anymore. I saw your interview on CNN and was disgusted by the way you said that Jesus changed His mind on "some" of the sins in the Old Testament. A sin is a sin is a sin and therefore, you are sinning where you stand! What about cutting the sides of your hair? Remember, when you point a finger a someone, there are four fingers pointing right back at you. Stop judging others!
All you guys suck! Just stuck to your own lives and work on what you have to before calling other people down... How bout that first and foremost... Work on your relationship with Christ, or build one before you claim to know what you're talking about.
2) He sees me in heavenly places! Thats why the bible says in that same passage nor things to come because I have no idea what tomorow brings as far as my character flaws or sins but I KNOW they are forgiven and I have a Savior who Will bring me out! Church people seem to forget that this gospel is for sinners not the self righteous!
Wrong my sin will not seperate me from the love of God because ive been born again my sins past present and future are paid for by the blood! In romans 9:38 the word death is included death is a result of sin. Thats the only reason the word death even exists in the language of earth! Ive turned my back on God many times during my salvation God knew I would and people the religious people would have looked at me as if I was going strait to hell! But God was with me the whole time because .
I am very upset over the dispute.I do think that jennifer is wrong and I still lover though like him.I do not however have as much respect for her anymore.I think that bob went too far because she obviously doesnt want to listen.and also I believe that bob has the right to use her as an example in church cause when someone goes public sorry to say girl it means PUBLIC.Its for discussion then.well enough said
@JesusChristisMuslim are you aware that Romans was written by Paul and he believed Jesus was God in the flesh? Paul is not speaking against Christians because he's one. He's speaking against those who don't acknowledge God and Christ as their savior.
@JesusChristisMuslim Muslims are the biggest joke on the planet ! You will go to hell with this very same fact testifying against you at the Great White Throne Judgement if you do not repent ! You may live in denial all you want but you will nevertheless find out that Jesus Christ is God Almighty on you way to hell like it or not ! Repent and choose The real God Almighty, The Great I AM. LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST and not allah the false god who will burn in hell cos its a demon.
AMEN!!! I TOTALLY AGREE, THE SCARY THING IS SHE CAN TRY AND JUSTIFY HER CHOICE ALL SHE WANTS BUT SHE CAN NEVER ARGUE THE TRUTH AND THATS THE WORD OF THE LIVING GOD! I WILL PRAY FOR YOU JENNIFER THAT YOU SEE THE TRUTH AND REALIZE THE WAY YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING GOD. I AM GLAD THAT PASTOR BOB STOOD FOR WHAT THE TRUTH IS, IF PPL LIKE JENNIFER CONTINUE TO COMPROMIS THEIR CHRISTIANITY AND LETTING IN SIN AND THINKING ITS OK, THEY ARE VERY WRONG,!
@navajogrl23 - We all compromise. That is what Jesus is for. No Compromise is called legalistic religion. If I knew you, I could most likely reveal a hundread dozen SINS in your life that you have not repented for. Christians constantly use gays as scapegoats. Why not go after the rich politicians who use Jesus to start wars?
Let's let our Lord judge Jennifer, pray for her, love her as a person, disagree with her sin as well as yours. Or are all those out there WITH BALLS sinless???
You got no balls!!! you should of told her straight on tv shes going to hell, Psalms 97:10 You who love the LORD hate evil, and homosexual is evil and you should be ashamed of yourself..When JESUS preached he preached with conviction Luke 24:32, and all you did was pat her on the back, your not fit to be a preacher and you showed how useless and disgracful you where on live TV
YOU'RE RIGHT BOB ! AND FOR THOSE WHO WANTS TO DISAGREE: ITS WRITE ON THE BIBLE... OTHERWISE WHAT JESUS DEATH ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SIN IS IT ALL ABOUT,? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO REPENT FOR? TO BE SET FREE ABOUT?. GOD LOVED US SO MUCH THAT HE SEND HIS LOVED SON.FOR WHAT ABOUT?I LOVE JENNIFER ... BUT : THE SALARY OF THE SIN IT IS THE DEATH, AND NOT THE NATURAL DEATH. THE BIBLE WARN US..THANKX JESUS! AND... I WAS A MUSLIM BUT WHEN I ASKED GOD TO SHOW ME THE TRUTH HE DID...ITS NOT ABOUT RELIGION!
If this man is a spokesman for Christianity, no wonder why so many people think Christianity has nothing to speak to them. He says if you are not married (and probably never divorced) you are not right before God. I think this man believes "Follow me and Jesus Follows me."
Any self-proclaimed "paster" who, in response to a nationally televised question concerning why we can now eat shellfish and not sin, simply says "God changed His mind" is NOT a respectable shepherd of divine Truth in my eyes. Please, go back and really do some searching for why you believe the things you do. It was embarrassing watching you flounder on LKL. No pun intended.
"im a gay christian" OUTRAGEOUS!! See the gay in front of the name of the Lord your God. At least have the respect to put your title second to God.(Christian gay) SMH!!! The whole reason of Christianity is to Love GOD FIRST. You love God so much you give up your own identity for His. Our identity is in Christ not who we sleep with. Think about it really.... Gay Christian.
I appreciate your concern for Jenn. Sometimes however it is better to be seen and not heard. Actions speak louder then words. God doesn't need your help. Pray for her and let God do His thing in her life. She knows what is right and wrong. She was very careful with her words on the Larry King Live show. The whole thing with the old testament and old laws...wasn't the tearing of the temple vale the end of the old laws? And the new testament was to replace the old?
Pastor, just saw this video. Kudos to you for taking a stand, i think you did a nice job on Larry King. Can't imagine being in a position like that, although i do pray for the opportunity to defend Christ publicly like that some day, after He refines me a little more ;)
well... being gay brings one damness? having people like you in this planet is a pure example of that! thank god there are less people like you in these young generations... you know... less ignorant and STUPID! hugs!
i dont like you stipid little pastor. you affect the minds and lives of many young christians without having the right to do so! thabk god i dont follow the bible... i would be very miserable. hope that when you die, you find your hell very confortable full of leaders who have once affected people using their "power".
why don´t you go after child abusers, or killers? why do you go after homosexuality? shame on you!!!
Any Christian who THINKS they know what the Scripture says about Same-Gender relationships needs to tangle with the theology at g0ys (g0ys is spelled w. a zer0 - G00GLE it). Because thes guy in this video is soft between the ears as to what the Scripture ACTUALLY says about same-gender relationships. Galatians 3:28c states that in Christ there is no GENDER. Once the issue of Gender is dissolved --lots of things goes with it. The fact he cites Romans-1, proves he hasn't read: 2 Pet 3:16
If you think Gal 3:28 supports men having sex with men and women having sex with women.....clearly what you are doing is being one of those that Paul describes in 2 Pet: 3:16..........
I saw you on Larry King and I just want to tell you God bless you for being a light in the dark for so many! I hope that Jennifer repents and one day returns to the right bath the only path that is true!
The majority of comments does not necessitate that which is morally or ethically correct, according to GOD's word. Homosexuality is a departure from the design set forth in Genesis BY God: understand that this is not hate speech. What is put forth here is clearly a warning to turn away from a path that is destined for destruction.
Why can't you get your mind off what's between everyone's legs? That's why you hate. That's why you condemn others who aren't just like you. Do you really think God cares what's between your legs? LOVE IS LOVE! And how dare you compare homosexuality to pornography, prostitution, thievery???
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice HOMOSEXUALITY"
GOD IS A LOVING GOD BUT THE TRUTH IS GOD IS ALSO THE GOD OF JUSTICE AND HE IS NOT A CORRUPT JUDGE....
Ironic, isn't it? He's standing in front of a Love Revolution sign, condemning someone for loving someone, just because he doesn't agree with that love (and, yes, I think sex should be between two consenting ADULTS, no matter their gender or race).
If a person is to be in a married relationship, a committed relationship are they allowed to go out of the bounds of that marriage and make an excuse to cheat on that person? No they stay in the understood boundaries and so should a person in there relationship with Jesus.
@brea987 You said: "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point, he is guilty of breaking all of it." -James 2:10"
Your comparing your interpretation (or someone else's) to James 2:10 as "apples to apples" is shallow thinking, through which any reasonable person can see. Ask your dad or someone you respect.
You should investigate the Word more thoroughly before you open your mouth and put your foot in it. Many people say stupid things that you shouldn't repeat.
@BludBaut Good Luck to you in life. May God bless your life with many wonderful and gratious things. (and by the way, this is my new page. 987brea, I had to change it over to another account. But, with that being said Thank you for your debat and your time. Work on your approach towards people. Show people what Jesus was like. I won't respong anymore, but I will keep in mind what you have said. Thank you again doll. God Bless you.
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@987brea You're too smug to hear, but there is balance in life. The loving Savior will cast the fearful and unbelieving into the Lake of Fire. You think I should show people what Jesus is like? Who is going to show them that He he doesn't approve sexual perversion? You don't do it. Is that PART of what He's like? HOLY? Did you speak to mufc1luv in the four months since he posted the lie above? Well, did you? Is that showing people what Jesus is like?
@BludBaut I don't agree with homosexuality what so ever. Again, I have no been rude to you once. Not ONCE and I still will not be rude to you. I will however tell you that Jesus Christ died for our sins. I hope that she repents and I hope that she is saved and I hope that she asks for forgiveness. With that being said, you have called me arrogant, smug, and also said that I had too much pride. I havn't called you anything, or said anything out of the way. THAT is what I think you need to word on
@BludBaut When you are talking to someone about God, you can't call them smug and arrogant. It's an insult. I have been nothing but nice to you. Nothing but. You made it personal. Then you say that I can't spell? I am hurt that a fellow christian would call someone names and put them down. That is why I'm not debating with you any longer. And as far as mufc1luv, I dont know what you are talking about. I will not be insulted, and I pray to God above that you change your ways of speaking to people
@BludBaut But you have the last word. I am praying for you. I hope that you have a wonderful life filled with happiness and wonderful things. <3 Goodnight <3 ~Brea~
@brea987 You deleted: @911dispatcher In the Lords eyes it is all the same. The KJV bible says, once you have commited one sin, you have commited them all.
The KJV does not say that at all. That's your imagination and I will elaborate so that you can correct yourself.
In James 2:10 "them" is not in the Greek and "all" means "the whole." Your conclusion is very wrong. Is this your exegesis or are you just repeating someone who is a poor Bible student?
@brea987 Your pride, arrogance, refusal to examine Scripture or to admit to your twisting and misquoting Scripture, along with your insistence that you're right when anyone can check the text of the Bible and see you're wrong tells me that you're 100% clueless about 1Jn 5:16 and because you're ignorant, you'll reject it and continue in your smug "I'm right" attitude against all sound wisdom.
Note particularly "I do not say that he shall pray for it." Have any clue what that means? Of course not
@BludBaut here's the thing, you and I will never agree on anything. We will have to agree to disagree. I feel that I am strong in my faith. I go to church and I preach the gospel as well as witness to many people. What I am offended with by you, is you saying my pride is getting in the way. That is not true, I am actually reading every word that you are saying and taking it into concideration. You hurt my feelings by saying that because you do not know me, nor can you see me face to face.
@BludBaut I know what the bible says when it says by grace ye are saved. Eph 2 8:9 I just mis-spoke. U have said that I dont know what I am talking about & took this to another level that was unnecessary. So I will leave you w/ the last word on here if u choose to take it & I know u will, & leave with this. I am a Christian I love God with all of my heart & I feel Him within me. when I sin He convicts me of it & I repent. I AM a Christian I hope you are too Have a wonderful life & God Bless you
@BludBaut My pride isn't bad at all, and I am in no way arrogant. I was simply in a debat. Please understand that. I was reading EVERYTHING that you said and taking IT ALL in. Please in the future when you are speaking with a fellow Christian, try not to attack them in such a way that you do. You honestly called a complete stranger Arrogant?:( That is really sad dollface. If you want to bring people to Christ and show them "the right way" then take a different approach. Praying for you always.
@brea987 It wasn't nice for me. It's NEVER fun telling people they're deceived and believing lies and twisting God's Word, especially when they're like you and don't listen and are smug and convinced they're right REGARDLESS of what the Bible says.
It's a joy to find people who graciously receive correction because they're honest enough to examine the facts and are willing to admit when they're wrong.
You want to argue that an unrepentant sexual pervert is forgiven. The Bible doesn't say that.
@brea987 I note that you did not dispute the Scriptures that I gave you yet you responded with several remarks that show real weakness in your Bible understanding and show you didn't like the what the Scriptures that I showed you say.
I think you should see that as a problem. When God says something in the Bible, it's our job to understand that it's truth. From your first remark, you've shown a predilection to "pick and choose" what you like and what you don't. God didn't give you that option.
@brea987 You should have referenced your Bible instead of your memory. Had you done that, you wouldn't have said some of the things you said. I'm not rude for telling you the truth. Someone needs to tell you that you're religious and you twist the Scripture or should I think you'll discover it on your own? If you will, then why haven't you already?
Confrontation is part of life. Pro 6:23 "For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:"
@brea987 You should have removed that remark also because it's got so many mistakes in it. The Bible tells you to be perfect and how to be. It NEVER SAYS, "we will never be perfect."
You listen to "Christians" too much and to your Bible NOT ENOUGH. I say that because you need to hear it, not to be mean.
@brea987 "King James Version Bible says clearly that you are saved by faith"
You're parroting men. The Bible DOES NOT say that. It says we're saved BY GRACE through faith. Because you don't pay enough attention, you don't value how critical the difference is.
"and that you have to accept Jesus into your heart to be saved." You're parroting men again.
NOWHERE in the Bible will you find those words.
Your theology is sloppy and careless. If you never have problems (yeah, right) it won't matter
@BludBaut I mis spoke sweety. I apologize for that. But I really can't have this conversation much anymore. I really can't. BUT, I will say that I will study more on the subject. I am always willing to grow in my faith. I am still learning every day. I just havn't liked the way you went about speaking God's word to me and probably to others. You should work on that, because I felt attacked. But, I thank you for the debate and I will continue to study His word and pray or you as well. Goodnight<3
@brea987 lest you walk away scratching your head and wondering, to illustrate that all sin is not equal, murder is worse than impatience, child molestation is worse than a white lie and rape is worse than peeking down a girl's blouse and anyone who tells you there's no difference is STUPID.
@brea987 Now, I'm not trying to get you in an exchange. It's obvious that you're not a good listener and you're going to believe what you want to believe. I'm just giving you fair warning that much of what you believe isn't Bible at all but is what you've been taught by men. Jesus is not going to accept that. He stated that the word that HE ALREADY SPOKE is what will judge men at the last day. So if you've believed men and on that day find out that they misrepresented it, where does that leave u
@brea987 "I just know" is useless if it's not EXACTLY what the Word says. 1st remark is RIGHT. 2nd & LAST is WRONG. The Bible means what it PLAINLY SAYS. You have an opinion and you're happy with your opinion but Jesus was VERY CLEARLY: "It's easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for ONE STROKE OF A LETTER OF THE LAW TO FAIL." Your opinion won't cut it. You need to make SURE you're HEARING EXACTLY what the text says... or YOU'RE WRONG and it doesn't matter how many people agree with you.
@brea987 always remember scripture must be in context.. if we were white as snow all the time? we would not need the rest of the bible..ephesians/ galatians all the scripture talk to our flesh and how to overcome it :).. We need Jesus to overcome it...not just ONCE...but 'working out our salvation with fear and trembling" Phil 2:12
1 john 3 mentions that if we practice sin we don't know God..Goodnight :)
@Chey60 You need to read the next two verses. God will never turn away someone who prays toward Him. God will always listen to anyone who has repented and needs forgiveness of the wrong that God has convicted there heart. You are only reading what you want to read, you need to do more studying.
@brea987 Yes.. unfortunately all you can do is pray for her.. and the others who have followed this path of giving into their sin and becoming in Bondage once again. We no longer MUST sin but we just do.. we are weak.. and that is what the Holy Spirit is here for to help in our weakness. We enjoy sin because it's pleasurable for a time but in the end it reaps death. She now is trapped once again in her sin instead of accepting Christ's freedom FROM sin, she wanted freedom TO sin.
@brea987 In Psalm 66 we read, "If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened." [Psalm 66:18] God hears the prayer of a repentant heart. Scripture says "if you love me, keep my commandments" you cannot say you love God and sin against Him. Our enslavement to sinful passions and desires is broken when we are born again. But if we DO sin, we have Christ going to bat for us IF we repent and acknowlege our sin. Read all of Ephesians but esp chapter 5. IMPORTANT!
@brea987 so you believe that once you ask Christ into your heart He is forgiving you for all the sins that you WILL commit? she would only be forgiven if she was no longer practicing that sin. You cannot steal a car , repent and keep the car..
@brea987 Christ died to pay the price for our sins yes..but also to leave us His Holy Spirit which convicts, encourages and empowers us to live for Him. I was raised Baptist and I remember the day that I asked God "why Lord are all my brother's and sisters living just like the world" His spirit spoke to mine and said " there is more to be had .." that is when He began to teach me scriptures in His word about the Holy Spirit and walking in His ways and not my flesh's ways..
@brea987 Jennifer isn't repenting, she is justifying. And you don't just repent when you accept Christ, you must repent all the itme.. hourly, every minute every day sometimes...the Holy Spirit convicts us of our sin, we repent and that is when the sins are gone..but we sin daily, which means we must repent daily. I believe as we mature in Christ, our sins become less and less prominent..but with these fleshly bodies it will be from glory to glory as we walk in repentance, love and relationship
@brea987 Asking Christ into your heart is not all it takes..it takes repentance. We are a new creation because by FAITH our sins are washed away and by FAITH and His holy spirit we walk in His light.. if we say we are in the light and live in darkness we lie and there is no truth in us. Salvation is a race..we walk/run it daily and daily we must repent..sometimes by the hour, by the minute. He would convict us of sins we forgot about as well..and we must repent of those. We should WANT to.
the key word there is repentance. You cannot repent from something and then walk in it and practice it. When we are walking in Christ we are no longer sinners but the righteousness of Christ.. do we still sin ? yes but if we practice sin (make a habit of it, live in it..do not repent of it) then we are not truly living for God and we make a mockery of the faith. God does forgive however, He only forgives a repentant heart not an unrepentant one. God is love but God is also just.
@BludBaut: my reference to Leviticus was to highlight how many will cling to the one Mitzvah concerning homosexuality but ignore the other Mitzvot concerning living a G-dly life. Ignore that if you like. What I don't understand is how your behavior is supposed to reflect the love of Yeshua, but I assume I'll just get more mean-spiritedness from you. May Adonai bless you with a more loving heart.
if you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
You might have noticed that you've probably never heard those verses in Baptist churches. These verses aren't popular in Baptist churches because they DIRECTLY CONTRADICT "eternal security" and Baptists love their own doctrines more than the Word of God and those Scriptures are too plain to dance around.
Now, perhaps you might more appreciate, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Php 2:12
@brea987 Sorry, BreAnna, but it seems like you're been brainwashed with politically correct hogwash. Listen to these verses and decide whether you believe the Bible or not: Romans 11:20ff "...they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you,
@brea987 What Scripture is that? The one that says God forgives all your sins when you "ask Jesus into your heart."
That's not what my Bible says, and I've got three dozen versions and none of them say it. My Bible says that we're saved by grace through faith. You apparently don't understand that faith works by love and sin attacks faith and breeds unbelief. Simplistic dogmas may be "cute" but they don't hold up really well in crisis. When doubt assails, faith in the Word is the anchor.
S'dom was blasted for doing evil in the sight of Adonai; sodomy became a by-word for homosexuality because of what the crowd wanted to do to the angels.
And if you're justifying your position based on Leviticus, I trust you're also keeping kosher, wearing nothing with mixed fibers, never work on Sabbath (which is of course Saturday), etc?
The issue I feel is simplified by following what Messhia Yeshua taught about such things.
@TheAlexMalone You're so dishonest, it's palpable. How deceitful for you to claim that sodomy is a byword ONLY because of their wicked desires towards the angels. Their wicked desires were towards the angels because they were the ONLY FRESH MEAT IN TOWN and perverts are never satisfied. But being honest isn't the strength of perverts, is it? No, we know it isn't. We watch as every one of them lies EVERY TIME they open their mouths.
Kosher? Are you REALLY that ignorant of the Bible? I think so.
I think Pastor Bob did a good job. Had it been me, I would have told Jennifer that she was doing the old justification to make your sin ok. Scripture is so clear. Even if she doesn't believe that translation is correct with the word for homosexuality, how does she explain Sodom and Gomorrah?
@LoriGrayson Many pastors will bend over backwards, some for love and some to avoid criticism and some for several reasons. Praying in love is never wrong and I would have been closer to you in my response to her. In fact, I'm quite bold with the perverts and liars and I think part of it is the influence of my first pastor who often referenced criticism of "scaring them off." His frequent response: "Where am I going to scare them off to? Hell Number Two? God is love, but also "holy, holy, holy."
@LoriGrayson People who give in to their weakness and sin often make excuses for why the Bible is wrong and they are right. Some sins are so hard for people to give up that they will do anything to justify it so they no longer feel the guilt and conviction..unfortunately other people who accept the sin are in the "bed" with them so to speak. It is more loving to tell someone the truth out of love for their souls than to pad their flesh with "lies" . I don't want them to die in their sins.
@breligion : Free will was given to those who hadn't received Jesus into their hearts, but as soon as you receive Jesus into your heart you are to turn away from from old life and become a new life in Christ..
@breligion Everyone has free will, whether they choose to live the ways of the flesh or the way of God, that is there own choice, I am not condeming her for what she believes, Only God can judge, as we will all be judged when we come before Him.
There is so much emotion involved in this topic. Its kinda crazy. The main thing is that for a Christian person the Bible is the final say. Bob is standing up for this. He is not saying he hates her or that she is a terrible rotten sinner and worse than other people. Anyone living in an unrepentant lifestyle of sex with someone they are not married to will not inherit the kingdom of God. Its in Galatians chpt.5. If we sin, but repent and turn from it, his grace covers us. Is God in charge of u?
@Water4Jeremiah Christ preached against sin, was HE a sinner? John the baptist preached against adultery, was he an adulterer? .. there are some preachers who do preach against certain sins and their spirits are being convicted as well..and there are some whom the enemy begins to work on in the particular sin they are preaching against to see if they will fall prey to it as well... but should they stop preaching in fear of being talked about? God forbid!
@kegglecrunch I think the reason this is such a huge is issue is the fact that it is one of the few sins that a lot of people are Okaying and saying it is alright to do. The other maybe done in secret but are still considered sin. I think it is the same when Prominent Preachers and stuff divorced... people were in an uproar but thankfully no one is saying it is right. but marring afterwards is sin.
wow dude! you're a f*ckin sinner yet you are throwing stones at others? if gays and lesbians are going to hell, then we will see you there. keep that hatred in your heart and see where it leads you. i feel sorry for your family to have to deal with such a narrow minded asshole. my church is very open and accepting. we even have a float in the local gay pride parade. you are an idiot.
Jennifer,Ray Boltz and who ever decides to come out,makes me understand that God is sovereign in election and how Jesus said many will say on that day, Lord,Lord on that day,haven't we done this of that in your name and I will say depart.
@breligion No one is saved through works.On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
@breligion I'll let you in on a secret,you ,I and everyone else are under complete control of the Lord,He will save who He chooses and He will harden and reprobate who He chooses,salvation is not by the will of man,it's by God alone.Many can play Christian for awhlie,but they will finally fall away if God hasn't saved them,but all Jesus begins a good work in,HE FINISHES.
This man is Satan, preaching hate with a forked tongue but hidden amongst such soft words. God is perfect, he doesn't make mistakes, how arrogant to presume that Jennifer Knapp is not exactly where God wants her.
Very well said pastor. Our society is increasingly accepting the "other lifestyle" which is not a lifestyle at all but depraved and open rebellion to God. We do need to lovingly declare God's moral standards.
GLORY TO GOD..TOTALLY AGREE. God's number one problem with man is SIN. The main reason why Jesus came was for SIN. Not for us to continue to live in it but to be set freeeee. Yes, we were born into sin, but God made a way through Jesus Christ!. We ought to grow in holiness, God loves holiness..to grow in love for the things God loves and grow in hate for the things God hate. Homosexuality is a sin and Jennifer should ask the Lord "is it really wrong Lord?.and if it is help me to change this"..
as a follower of Christ, i would like to ask Larry King and Jennifer, what about a person who commits the sin of murder,should they still say it does not interfere with their relationship with Christ? since they keep going back to the fact we are all sinners.. She is not even admitting that she is in sin or that she needs God's help..she wants to serve sin and God and it cannot be done..it is a choice..we need God in able to overcome sin..dont give up Jen,you can be free..
Pastor Bob, i just watched the video of you and Jennifer on LKL. It seems like they all came against you, but you stood your ground. i think it is good to be a light in this dark world. People are too afraid to speak out against sin today. i admire you for speaking out. Thank you.
I suggest anyone who wants the actual truth based on fact regarding this issue read the book : Hate Thy Neighbor by Linda J. Patterson: "explores the Bible verses that are used to condemn homosexuality, and explains why they either do not condemn homosexuality at all, or are far too contextually and culturally removed to warrant a modern-day condemnation. The book also exposes the modern myth of biblical "family values," and explains how the Bible has been used to support slavery." Worth a read
i had to make a comment cus it was at 666.. she has an awesome voice.. i don't hear you going off on amy grant.. she broke the law of God and got a divorce.. i still hear her on Christain stations.. i don't understand why she is so horriable when she was honest.. sorry
i had to make a comment cus it was at 666.. she has an awesome voice.. i don't hear you going off on amy grant.. she broke the law of God and got a divorce.. i still hear her on Christain stations.. i don't understand why she is so horriable when she was honest.. sorry
Dear Pastor, I live in Iceland and I watched this video on youtube with you and J. Knapp on Larry king's show. I would like to tell you that I have a great respect for you because you speak for the truth. Don´t give up Pastor!
ALL Christians who support "Gay Lifestyles" will have their part in the "Lake of Fire". Willful Sin WILL BE Punished !!
You either stand up for the TRUTH by condemning Sin, instead of condoning Sin. We will all be judged by our thoughts & actions.
Rev 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.
@Romans1014Preach What about the law that says.. we must stone children who curse their parents? the one that says.. its a sin to wear different fabrics? or the one that says.. its a sin to eat shellfish?
These are all in the bible as being sins etc.. yet none of those are taken too seriously in todays culture. And i understand why. The bible doesnt condemn consenting gay loving committed relationships.. anymore than it condemns hetro relationships.
@mufc1luv Keep on dreaming ! You are under the Wrath of YHWH !
Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites
@Romans1014Preach John 4:16 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him" God didn't come to condemn yet you say we should? Instead of pointing our fingers at each others sin, lets point our fingers at the one that can save them from it. Instead of "this is what's wrong with you" how about we say "This is the one that loves you completely, he can make you whole again"
I don't know this guy.. But what he is saying is actually a little scary.. How "God can change his mind"..? (The Gospel According To Pastor Bob) He knows Gods mind?? WOW! Amazing!! NOOO, That is HIS INTERPRETATION.. AS IS THE BIBLE THE INTERPRETATION OF THOSE WHO TRANSLATED IT, FROM SACRED & MYSTERIOUS HEBREW & GREEK TEXTS!
How can you put a good living, loving, commited relationship in the same bracket as prostitution or porn just because it happens to be same sex? Love is love is love is love.
That's a former sexual pervert who got delivered and talks about the practical steps that she fought to get out of the deceit that you pretend is normal.
Thanks for your guts in sharing truth. I agree 100 percent. God loves Jennifer, and we are all sinners. That being said, we can't be "soft" on sin, saying it is ok. It is not ok, and she is justifying her actions.
1) Speak an octave higher than regular people. That way, you can say the most awful things, and people will still think you're nice
2) Wear glasses. Even though you believe in absolute crap, like "God had a son and impregnated a human called "Mary" (Mary... a person from the Middle East... called "Mary" think about it) and you will still look smart! Good job!
3) Quote mine the Bible. Because you can find justification for anything in there.
Oh shut up, really! You're so pathetic... let this woman live her life and stop all your mindless judgement fluff, God understands, so why don't you get on board too.
I am gay and I am in love with my Savior. One thing that people need to realize is that the only thing that can keep you apart from Jesus Christ is you. God has changed my life in more ways than I can begin to name. I have even come to a point where I was more than willing for Him to change my being Gay if that was what I was supposed to be and do. He hasn't change that about me, He has sent me to help people like me.
@JacXavier7 I just want to encourage you that when Jesus talked to the woman caught in adultry, he told her to "Go and leave your life of sin" This was His command for her to follow out, not that he waved his hand over and took that tendancy away from her. I know that this is not an easy thing to do and will be a lifetime struggle, but it truly is commanded by God. I would encourage you to look at James 5:19-20 I pray that you will take Jesus words, and "Go and leave your life of sin"
She's in a long-term, committed relationship and loves God. I don't see what's so wrong about that. Truth is being your authentic self, and that's who she is being. Good for her.
Pastor Bob - I just recently heard this news about jennifer Knapp and watched the Larry King interview. I appreciate that you went on to share truth - even if people don't want to hear it. I think your point about how homosexuality is reaffirmed as being sin in the NT is right on - and addresses a lot of the concerns about why we don't still follow the laws of the pentatuech. However - God does NOT change his mind - I would caution using this terminology regarding the change in standards from
what was required from us in the OT versus what is required of us in the NT. God didn't change his mind about the Law, but rather sent Jesus to fulfill the law (much of the levitical law had to do with sanitation and such). Jesus fulfilled the LAW...and now we are not subject to it (fulfilling the law isn't the same as changing His mind). I think saying that God changes His mind opens up a lot of doors for arguments that are completely false. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
@Jesusgirl1 If gods perfect right off the bat why does he need to change his mind and why are there so many different religions/bad people. These are but a very VERY small portion of the reasons why I renounced my faith.
@Jesusgirl1 I would recommend you both read the scripture rather than recirculate hateful, fallacious misinterpretations of OT text. I know I am dangerously close to buying into a misguided theological argument here... But honestly, as a brother I believe you both would benefit from spending more time in the word and less time discussing others' supposed actions.
The real reason Christians consider homosexality a greater sin than wearing different threaded clothes and shellfish is because they are all taught at a very young age to be ashamed of their sexuality. They are taught some messed up things that a bunch of 1st century Middle Eastern guys who were afraid to lose their women thought were good ideas. And I can prove it:
If Peter says that you can eat anything you want, then why isn't Jennifer Knapp allowed to eat another woman's pussy?
@ddrgenius Nobody said homosexuality is a greater sin. The fact that Jennifer lives continually in that one sin, each and every day, and denies that it is sin, is blaspheming the Word of God. The BIble is not open to each person's own interpretation, and Jennifer kept talking about the Greek text being hard to decipher, but the Old Testament was actually Hebrew, the original language of mankind. Both of them are pretty clear, there aren't blurred lines about this, it is in fact a sin against God
@normagrace02 Looks like someone is ashamed of their sexuality. I guess hiding behind 'supernatural fairies' helps hide your own skeletons in the closet doesn't it?
If we say we love the Lord but can not deny our flesh- it makes me question the sincerity of that statement- to love the Lord fully we must deny “self.” I could go on and on and on and on… but this really makes me sad Sad for her and sad for the generation of so called “Christian” that my children are growing up with as well…
I do pray that my young daughters will not see her (J Knapp) as an example-no way- she is a confused and lost woman- I pray they look to Paul- who left his sinful life and gave his life for Christ~ and although he endured prison and many hardships and trials on earth he will enjoy a sweet reunion and everlasting communion with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in eternity.
Thank you Pastor! Well said! People need to start defending the Bible if they call them selves Christians- not distorting it! My prayer is that people that calls themselves Christians stand against the popular “acceptance” of sin- the idea that we love the sinner and not the sin… like the pastor said- if we truly love people let them know they are in a burning building-Get OUT! Change! Turn to CHRIST! You are in a burning building and every second you are rushing to eternity! TURN TO CHRIST!
Does Jesus's compassion not embrace women who love other women or men who love other men? And is Yahweh such a petty tyrant that he cares who & how we love? If that's what your religion amounts to then i think Nietzsche's right: your god's dead & you killed him with your ax-grinding petty fretful everlasting obsession with other people's sex lives.
@ceeleehaight : Jesus' love embraces Jennifer Knapp more than all of humanity. However sin is sin. Homosexual sin and Heterosexual sin. God views it the same, because it breaks His heart. Both are perversions of reality. All sinners great and small are going to hell. So He wants everyone young and old to turn to his son with a repentant heart.
Amen he leaves the sin behind.....came to his senses..... Great Word analogy.... Many people want to follow Christ without change but there has to be a willingness to deny your evil desires even if they make you happy.....
Amos 3 says, "Hear this word that the LORD has spoken against you, O people of Israel, against the whole family that I brought up out of the land of Egypt: You only have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Do two walk together, unless they have agreed to meet?" Jennifer needs to agree w/ the Lord or she is not walking w/ Him. Thx so much Pastor Bob for speaking such a clear and balanced word. Love the sinner, but hate the sin.
the word is very clear, sin us sin, and it's by Gods grace that we are saved. And we all have the chance to live a live pleasing to God. We can compramise. You can't love God but Love sin.. You can't be a cook yet hate food..the word of God is Straight forward..
Let's try to be loving, now, people. You don't have to agree with it or anything, but that's the great thing about free will! If you were to actually study the Bible in the original ancient Aramaic, you would find that these "homosexuality laws" were actually part of the social construct of the time, not the religious. It's nothing really about the "translation" of the word "homosexual," but rather the time period, and social paradigms in which the book was written.
In her Larry King Live appearance, Jennifer Knapp mentioned something about the ambiguity of the English translations of the word 'homosexual' taken from the New Testament Greek. I've never heard this argument before. Is this a line of reasoning used by many pro-gay "Christians" today? Is there even a ring of legitimacy to it?
Amen Bob....Thank you for standing up for the word of God and not backing down. I just found out about Jennifer Knapp which broke my heart but I believe and pray she will come out of deception. Tonight I found the Larry King Live episode and prayed as I watched because it had to be difficult sitting on live TV as all 3 of them came against you....Praise God for how you handled the situation and thank you thank you thank you for representing the truth of God's word!
This clip beautifully puts into perspective God's view of sin and the sinner. The homosexual lifestyle IS clearly denounced in Scripture as a sinful choice, but the pastor quickly points out the appropriate response of the believer: show the offender biblically he is wrong, but love him and pray for his change. Jennifer knows she is loved by this pastor and this church, and deep down she is aware of what she needs to do. Keep loving her and praying for her; there is hope!!
@preacherswife1113 That is completely false. Jennifer Knapp knows that she's leading a life for God and you are not someone to judge her. Try reading the Bible for once, sinner.
@preacherswife1113 LOL The orignal text or one of the many English versions that were translated poorly and are still being debated on which is most accruate. Since they all say different things, ignorant sinner.
@cvgsusfreak08d Wow pretty hateful there! Your showing your immaturity and ignorance of the Word. Your obviously a pride filled young person with a long way to go
This preacher is a straight up queer.
seanstrnad 1 week ago
You and people like you are the reason why I don't go to church anymore. I saw your interview on CNN and was disgusted by the way you said that Jesus changed His mind on "some" of the sins in the Old Testament. A sin is a sin is a sin and therefore, you are sinning where you stand! What about cutting the sides of your hair? Remember, when you point a finger a someone, there are four fingers pointing right back at you. Stop judging others!
jnwhitener44 2 weeks ago
All you guys suck! Just stuck to your own lives and work on what you have to before calling other people down... How bout that first and foremost... Work on your relationship with Christ, or build one before you claim to know what you're talking about.
MomOfTew 1 month ago
And also Bob what about YOUR sin isnt it forgiven also?
Mrlivn4Christ 1 month ago
2) He sees me in heavenly places! Thats why the bible says in that same passage nor things to come because I have no idea what tomorow brings as far as my character flaws or sins but I KNOW they are forgiven and I have a Savior who Will bring me out! Church people seem to forget that this gospel is for sinners not the self righteous!
Mrlivn4Christ 1 month ago
Wrong my sin will not seperate me from the love of God because ive been born again my sins past present and future are paid for by the blood! In romans 9:38 the word death is included death is a result of sin. Thats the only reason the word death even exists in the language of earth! Ive turned my back on God many times during my salvation God knew I would and people the religious people would have looked at me as if I was going strait to hell! But God was with me the whole time because .
Mrlivn4Christ 1 month ago
I am very upset over the dispute.I do think that jennifer is wrong and I still lover though like him.I do not however have as much respect for her anymore.I think that bob went too far because she obviously doesnt want to listen.and also I believe that bob has the right to use her as an example in church cause when someone goes public sorry to say girl it means PUBLIC.Its for discussion then.well enough said
JAW76718 2 months ago
@JesusChristisMuslim are you aware that Romans was written by Paul and he believed Jesus was God in the flesh? Paul is not speaking against Christians because he's one. He's speaking against those who don't acknowledge God and Christ as their savior.
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@JesusChristisMuslim Muslims are the biggest joke on the planet ! You will go to hell with this very same fact testifying against you at the Great White Throne Judgement if you do not repent ! You may live in denial all you want but you will nevertheless find out that Jesus Christ is God Almighty on you way to hell like it or not ! Repent and choose The real God Almighty, The Great I AM. LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST and not allah the false god who will burn in hell cos its a demon.
AJBluesman 2 months ago
AMEN!!! I TOTALLY AGREE, THE SCARY THING IS SHE CAN TRY AND JUSTIFY HER CHOICE ALL SHE WANTS BUT SHE CAN NEVER ARGUE THE TRUTH AND THATS THE WORD OF THE LIVING GOD! I WILL PRAY FOR YOU JENNIFER THAT YOU SEE THE TRUTH AND REALIZE THE WAY YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING GOD. I AM GLAD THAT PASTOR BOB STOOD FOR WHAT THE TRUTH IS, IF PPL LIKE JENNIFER CONTINUE TO COMPROMIS THEIR CHRISTIANITY AND LETTING IN SIN AND THINKING ITS OK, THEY ARE VERY WRONG,!
navajogrl23 3 months ago
@navajogrl23 - We all compromise. That is what Jesus is for. No Compromise is called legalistic religion. If I knew you, I could most likely reveal a hundread dozen SINS in your life that you have not repented for. Christians constantly use gays as scapegoats. Why not go after the rich politicians who use Jesus to start wars?
lucasboden 2 weeks ago
Let's let our Lord judge Jennifer, pray for her, love her as a person, disagree with her sin as well as yours. Or are all those out there WITH BALLS sinless???
pmasterj75 3 months ago
You got no balls!!! you should of told her straight on tv shes going to hell, Psalms 97:10 You who love the LORD hate evil, and homosexual is evil and you should be ashamed of yourself..When JESUS preached he preached with conviction Luke 24:32, and all you did was pat her on the back, your not fit to be a preacher and you showed how useless and disgracful you where on live TV
Soul7Patrol 4 months ago
YOU'RE RIGHT BOB ! AND FOR THOSE WHO WANTS TO DISAGREE: ITS WRITE ON THE BIBLE... OTHERWISE WHAT JESUS DEATH ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SIN IS IT ALL ABOUT,? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO REPENT FOR? TO BE SET FREE ABOUT?. GOD LOVED US SO MUCH THAT HE SEND HIS LOVED SON.FOR WHAT ABOUT?I LOVE JENNIFER ... BUT : THE SALARY OF THE SIN IT IS THE DEATH, AND NOT THE NATURAL DEATH. THE BIBLE WARN US..THANKX JESUS! AND... I WAS A MUSLIM BUT WHEN I ASKED GOD TO SHOW ME THE TRUTH HE DID...ITS NOT ABOUT RELIGION!
marseillois13 4 months ago
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marseillois13 4 months ago
Amen,truth is the truth.People want to alter the word for their own desires.
Descreta1 4 months ago
If this man is a spokesman for Christianity, no wonder why so many people think Christianity has nothing to speak to them. He says if you are not married (and probably never divorced) you are not right before God. I think this man believes "Follow me and Jesus Follows me."
wbhs73 4 months ago
Any self-proclaimed "paster" who, in response to a nationally televised question concerning why we can now eat shellfish and not sin, simply says "God changed His mind" is NOT a respectable shepherd of divine Truth in my eyes. Please, go back and really do some searching for why you believe the things you do. It was embarrassing watching you flounder on LKL. No pun intended.
ellethelvanui 4 months ago
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"im a gay christian" OUTRAGEOUS!! See the gay in front of the name of the Lord your God. At least have the respect to put your title second to God.(Christian gay) SMH!!! The whole reason of Christianity is to Love GOD FIRST. You love God so much you give up your own identity for His. Our identity is in Christ not who we sleep with. Think about it really.... Gay Christian.
onebadgs400 4 months ago
I appreciate your concern for Jenn. Sometimes however it is better to be seen and not heard. Actions speak louder then words. God doesn't need your help. Pray for her and let God do His thing in her life. She knows what is right and wrong. She was very careful with her words on the Larry King Live show. The whole thing with the old testament and old laws...wasn't the tearing of the temple vale the end of the old laws? And the new testament was to replace the old?
Paxfactor 5 months ago
Pastor, just saw this video. Kudos to you for taking a stand, i think you did a nice job on Larry King. Can't imagine being in a position like that, although i do pray for the opportunity to defend Christ publicly like that some day, after He refines me a little more ;)
sprmn14 5 months ago
well... being gay brings one damness? having people like you in this planet is a pure example of that! thank god there are less people like you in these young generations... you know... less ignorant and STUPID! hugs!
emiliottep 5 months ago
i dont like you stipid little pastor. you affect the minds and lives of many young christians without having the right to do so! thabk god i dont follow the bible... i would be very miserable. hope that when you die, you find your hell very confortable full of leaders who have once affected people using their "power".
why don´t you go after child abusers, or killers? why do you go after homosexuality? shame on you!!!
emiliottep 5 months ago
Any Christian who THINKS they know what the Scripture says about Same-Gender relationships needs to tangle with the theology at g0ys (g0ys is spelled w. a zer0 - G00GLE it). Because thes guy in this video is soft between the ears as to what the Scripture ACTUALLY says about same-gender relationships. Galatians 3:28c states that in Christ there is no GENDER. Once the issue of Gender is dissolved --lots of things goes with it. The fact he cites Romans-1, proves he hasn't read: 2 Pet 3:16
TheG0YS 5 months ago
If you think Gal 3:28 supports men having sex with men and women having sex with women.....clearly what you are doing is being one of those that Paul describes in 2 Pet: 3:16..........
Ducknbob8 4 months ago
I saw you on Larry King and I just want to tell you God bless you for being a light in the dark for so many! I hope that Jennifer repents and one day returns to the right bath the only path that is true!
VictorAndBear 5 months ago
The majority of comments does not necessitate that which is morally or ethically correct, according to GOD's word. Homosexuality is a departure from the design set forth in Genesis BY God: understand that this is not hate speech. What is put forth here is clearly a warning to turn away from a path that is destined for destruction.
crazyivan0v 5 months ago
Why can't you get your mind off what's between everyone's legs? That's why you hate. That's why you condemn others who aren't just like you. Do you really think God cares what's between your legs? LOVE IS LOVE! And how dare you compare homosexuality to pornography, prostitution, thievery???
AND how dare you think you know the mind of God.
Two words: FALSE PROPHET.
khboxster 6 months ago
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@khboxster God cares what's between our legs...
I Cor. 6:9
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice HOMOSEXUALITY"
GOD IS A LOVING GOD BUT THE TRUTH IS GOD IS ALSO THE GOD OF JUSTICE AND HE IS NOT A CORRUPT JUDGE....
smasher023 5 months ago
Ironic, isn't it? He's standing in front of a Love Revolution sign, condemning someone for loving someone, just because he doesn't agree with that love (and, yes, I think sex should be between two consenting ADULTS, no matter their gender or race).
coskid54 6 months ago 4
@coskid54 Please define LOVE.... Ho wdo you know she loves that person?
moveem24 6 months ago
If a person is to be in a married relationship, a committed relationship are they allowed to go out of the bounds of that marriage and make an excuse to cheat on that person? No they stay in the understood boundaries and so should a person in there relationship with Jesus.
livinmy2ndchance 6 months ago
@brea987 You said: "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point, he is guilty of breaking all of it." -James 2:10"
Your comparing your interpretation (or someone else's) to James 2:10 as "apples to apples" is shallow thinking, through which any reasonable person can see. Ask your dad or someone you respect.
You should investigate the Word more thoroughly before you open your mouth and put your foot in it. Many people say stupid things that you shouldn't repeat.
BludBaut 6 months ago
@BludBaut Good Luck to you in life. May God bless your life with many wonderful and gratious things. (and by the way, this is my new page. 987brea, I had to change it over to another account. But, with that being said Thank you for your debat and your time. Work on your approach towards people. Show people what Jesus was like. I won't respong anymore, but I will keep in mind what you have said. Thank you again doll. God Bless you.
987brea 6 months ago 6
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@987brea You're too smug to hear, but there is balance in life. The loving Savior will cast the fearful and unbelieving into the Lake of Fire. You think I should show people what Jesus is like? Who is going to show them that He he doesn't approve sexual perversion? You don't do it. Is that PART of what He's like? HOLY? Did you speak to mufc1luv in the four months since he posted the lie above? Well, did you? Is that showing people what Jesus is like?
Use a spell checker. It'll help you spell.
BludBaut 6 months ago
@BludBaut I don't agree with homosexuality what so ever. Again, I have no been rude to you once. Not ONCE and I still will not be rude to you. I will however tell you that Jesus Christ died for our sins. I hope that she repents and I hope that she is saved and I hope that she asks for forgiveness. With that being said, you have called me arrogant, smug, and also said that I had too much pride. I havn't called you anything, or said anything out of the way. THAT is what I think you need to word on
987brea 6 months ago 7
@BludBaut When you are talking to someone about God, you can't call them smug and arrogant. It's an insult. I have been nothing but nice to you. Nothing but. You made it personal. Then you say that I can't spell? I am hurt that a fellow christian would call someone names and put them down. That is why I'm not debating with you any longer. And as far as mufc1luv, I dont know what you are talking about. I will not be insulted, and I pray to God above that you change your ways of speaking to people
987brea 6 months ago 10
@BludBaut But you have the last word. I am praying for you. I hope that you have a wonderful life filled with happiness and wonderful things. <3 Goodnight <3 ~Brea~
987brea 6 months ago 4
@BludBaut And I know I told you before you had the last word, but I mean it this time doll. God Bless you.
987brea 6 months ago
@brea987 You deleted: @911dispatcher In the Lords eyes it is all the same. The KJV bible says, once you have commited one sin, you have commited them all.
The KJV does not say that at all. That's your imagination and I will elaborate so that you can correct yourself.
In James 2:10 "them" is not in the Greek and "all" means "the whole." Your conclusion is very wrong. Is this your exegesis or are you just repeating someone who is a poor Bible student?
You shouldn't respond w/out due diligence.
BludBaut 6 months ago
95% of the intepretations are accurate, but what about the 5%? maybe its toward the homosexuals
saunei 6 months ago
Hmmm he seems like a good parent...a parent who actually cares what his kids are doing
TheSeraphrim 6 months ago
@brea987 Your pride, arrogance, refusal to examine Scripture or to admit to your twisting and misquoting Scripture, along with your insistence that you're right when anyone can check the text of the Bible and see you're wrong tells me that you're 100% clueless about 1Jn 5:16 and because you're ignorant, you'll reject it and continue in your smug "I'm right" attitude against all sound wisdom.
Note particularly "I do not say that he shall pray for it." Have any clue what that means? Of course not
BludBaut 6 months ago
@BludBaut here's the thing, you and I will never agree on anything. We will have to agree to disagree. I feel that I am strong in my faith. I go to church and I preach the gospel as well as witness to many people. What I am offended with by you, is you saying my pride is getting in the way. That is not true, I am actually reading every word that you are saying and taking it into concideration. You hurt my feelings by saying that because you do not know me, nor can you see me face to face.
987brea 6 months ago 4
@BludBaut I know what the bible says when it says by grace ye are saved. Eph 2 8:9 I just mis-spoke. U have said that I dont know what I am talking about & took this to another level that was unnecessary. So I will leave you w/ the last word on here if u choose to take it & I know u will, & leave with this. I am a Christian I love God with all of my heart & I feel Him within me. when I sin He convicts me of it & I repent. I AM a Christian I hope you are too Have a wonderful life & God Bless you
987brea 6 months ago 5
@BludBaut My pride isn't bad at all, and I am in no way arrogant. I was simply in a debat. Please understand that. I was reading EVERYTHING that you said and taking IT ALL in. Please in the future when you are speaking with a fellow Christian, try not to attack them in such a way that you do. You honestly called a complete stranger Arrogant?:( That is really sad dollface. If you want to bring people to Christ and show them "the right way" then take a different approach. Praying for you always.
987brea 6 months ago 15
@brea987 It wasn't nice for me. It's NEVER fun telling people they're deceived and believing lies and twisting God's Word, especially when they're like you and don't listen and are smug and convinced they're right REGARDLESS of what the Bible says.
It's a joy to find people who graciously receive correction because they're honest enough to examine the facts and are willing to admit when they're wrong.
You want to argue that an unrepentant sexual pervert is forgiven. The Bible doesn't say that.
BludBaut 6 months ago
@brea987 I note that you did not dispute the Scriptures that I gave you yet you responded with several remarks that show real weakness in your Bible understanding and show you didn't like the what the Scriptures that I showed you say.
I think you should see that as a problem. When God says something in the Bible, it's our job to understand that it's truth. From your first remark, you've shown a predilection to "pick and choose" what you like and what you don't. God didn't give you that option.
BludBaut 6 months ago
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987brea 6 months ago
@brea987 You should have referenced your Bible instead of your memory. Had you done that, you wouldn't have said some of the things you said. I'm not rude for telling you the truth. Someone needs to tell you that you're religious and you twist the Scripture or should I think you'll discover it on your own? If you will, then why haven't you already?
Confrontation is part of life. Pro 6:23 "For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:"
BludBaut 6 months ago
@brea987 You should have removed that remark also because it's got so many mistakes in it. The Bible tells you to be perfect and how to be. It NEVER SAYS, "we will never be perfect."
You listen to "Christians" too much and to your Bible NOT ENOUGH. I say that because you need to hear it, not to be mean.
BludBaut 6 months ago
@brea987 "King James Version Bible says clearly that you are saved by faith"
You're parroting men. The Bible DOES NOT say that. It says we're saved BY GRACE through faith. Because you don't pay enough attention, you don't value how critical the difference is.
"and that you have to accept Jesus into your heart to be saved." You're parroting men again.
NOWHERE in the Bible will you find those words.
Your theology is sloppy and careless. If you never have problems (yeah, right) it won't matter
BludBaut 6 months ago
@BludBaut I mis spoke sweety. I apologize for that. But I really can't have this conversation much anymore. I really can't. BUT, I will say that I will study more on the subject. I am always willing to grow in my faith. I am still learning every day. I just havn't liked the way you went about speaking God's word to me and probably to others. You should work on that, because I felt attacked. But, I thank you for the debate and I will continue to study His word and pray or you as well. Goodnight<3
987brea 6 months ago 8
@brea987 lest you walk away scratching your head and wondering, to illustrate that all sin is not equal, murder is worse than impatience, child molestation is worse than a white lie and rape is worse than peeking down a girl's blouse and anyone who tells you there's no difference is STUPID.
911dispatcher 6 months ago
@brea987 Now, I'm not trying to get you in an exchange. It's obvious that you're not a good listener and you're going to believe what you want to believe. I'm just giving you fair warning that much of what you believe isn't Bible at all but is what you've been taught by men. Jesus is not going to accept that. He stated that the word that HE ALREADY SPOKE is what will judge men at the last day. So if you've believed men and on that day find out that they misrepresented it, where does that leave u
911dispatcher 6 months ago
@brea987 "I just know" is useless if it's not EXACTLY what the Word says. 1st remark is RIGHT. 2nd & LAST is WRONG. The Bible means what it PLAINLY SAYS. You have an opinion and you're happy with your opinion but Jesus was VERY CLEARLY: "It's easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for ONE STROKE OF A LETTER OF THE LAW TO FAIL." Your opinion won't cut it. You need to make SURE you're HEARING EXACTLY what the text says... or YOU'RE WRONG and it doesn't matter how many people agree with you.
911dispatcher 6 months ago
Jesus' Love is not about making everyone look the same. Straight does not=more loved or valuable.
TalmaiAbsalom 6 months ago
@brea987 always remember scripture must be in context.. if we were white as snow all the time? we would not need the rest of the bible..ephesians/ galatians all the scripture talk to our flesh and how to overcome it :).. We need Jesus to overcome it...not just ONCE...but 'working out our salvation with fear and trembling" Phil 2:12
1 john 3 mentions that if we practice sin we don't know God..Goodnight :)
Chey60 6 months ago
@Chey60 You need to read the next two verses. God will never turn away someone who prays toward Him. God will always listen to anyone who has repented and needs forgiveness of the wrong that God has convicted there heart. You are only reading what you want to read, you need to do more studying.
willluvssos 6 months ago
@willluvssos um... you said the same thing I did.. God will hear someone who has repented and needs forgiveness..so..um..yeah.. lol
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987 Yes.. unfortunately all you can do is pray for her.. and the others who have followed this path of giving into their sin and becoming in Bondage once again. We no longer MUST sin but we just do.. we are weak.. and that is what the Holy Spirit is here for to help in our weakness. We enjoy sin because it's pleasurable for a time but in the end it reaps death. She now is trapped once again in her sin instead of accepting Christ's freedom FROM sin, she wanted freedom TO sin.
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987 In Psalm 66 we read, "If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened." [Psalm 66:18] God hears the prayer of a repentant heart. Scripture says "if you love me, keep my commandments" you cannot say you love God and sin against Him. Our enslavement to sinful passions and desires is broken when we are born again. But if we DO sin, we have Christ going to bat for us IF we repent and acknowlege our sin. Read all of Ephesians but esp chapter 5. IMPORTANT!
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987 so you believe that once you ask Christ into your heart He is forgiving you for all the sins that you WILL commit? she would only be forgiven if she was no longer practicing that sin. You cannot steal a car , repent and keep the car..
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987 Christ died to pay the price for our sins yes..but also to leave us His Holy Spirit which convicts, encourages and empowers us to live for Him. I was raised Baptist and I remember the day that I asked God "why Lord are all my brother's and sisters living just like the world" His spirit spoke to mine and said " there is more to be had .." that is when He began to teach me scriptures in His word about the Holy Spirit and walking in His ways and not my flesh's ways..
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987 Jennifer isn't repenting, she is justifying. And you don't just repent when you accept Christ, you must repent all the itme.. hourly, every minute every day sometimes...the Holy Spirit convicts us of our sin, we repent and that is when the sins are gone..but we sin daily, which means we must repent daily. I believe as we mature in Christ, our sins become less and less prominent..but with these fleshly bodies it will be from glory to glory as we walk in repentance, love and relationship
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987 Asking Christ into your heart is not all it takes..it takes repentance. We are a new creation because by FAITH our sins are washed away and by FAITH and His holy spirit we walk in His light.. if we say we are in the light and live in darkness we lie and there is no truth in us. Salvation is a race..we walk/run it daily and daily we must repent..sometimes by the hour, by the minute. He would convict us of sins we forgot about as well..and we must repent of those. We should WANT to.
Chey60 6 months ago
@brea987
the key word there is repentance. You cannot repent from something and then walk in it and practice it. When we are walking in Christ we are no longer sinners but the righteousness of Christ.. do we still sin ? yes but if we practice sin (make a habit of it, live in it..do not repent of it) then we are not truly living for God and we make a mockery of the faith. God does forgive however, He only forgives a repentant heart not an unrepentant one. God is love but God is also just.
Chey60 6 months ago
@BludBaut: my reference to Leviticus was to highlight how many will cling to the one Mitzvah concerning homosexuality but ignore the other Mitzvot concerning living a G-dly life. Ignore that if you like. What I don't understand is how your behavior is supposed to reflect the love of Yeshua, but I assume I'll just get more mean-spiritedness from you. May Adonai bless you with a more loving heart.
TheAlexMalone 6 months ago
@brea987 cont2
if you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
You might have noticed that you've probably never heard those verses in Baptist churches. These verses aren't popular in Baptist churches because they DIRECTLY CONTRADICT "eternal security" and Baptists love their own doctrines more than the Word of God and those Scriptures are too plain to dance around.
Now, perhaps you might more appreciate, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Php 2:12
BludBaut 6 months ago
@brea987 Sorry, BreAnna, but it seems like you're been brainwashed with politically correct hogwash. Listen to these verses and decide whether you believe the Bible or not: Romans 11:20ff "...they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you,
cont.
BludBaut 6 months ago
@brea987 What Scripture is that? The one that says God forgives all your sins when you "ask Jesus into your heart."
That's not what my Bible says, and I've got three dozen versions and none of them say it. My Bible says that we're saved by grace through faith. You apparently don't understand that faith works by love and sin attacks faith and breeds unbelief. Simplistic dogmas may be "cute" but they don't hold up really well in crisis. When doubt assails, faith in the Word is the anchor.
BludBaut 6 months ago
S'dom was blasted for doing evil in the sight of Adonai; sodomy became a by-word for homosexuality because of what the crowd wanted to do to the angels.
And if you're justifying your position based on Leviticus, I trust you're also keeping kosher, wearing nothing with mixed fibers, never work on Sabbath (which is of course Saturday), etc?
The issue I feel is simplified by following what Messhia Yeshua taught about such things.
My two cents--blast away.
TheAlexMalone 6 months ago
@TheAlexMalone You're so dishonest, it's palpable. How deceitful for you to claim that sodomy is a byword ONLY because of their wicked desires towards the angels. Their wicked desires were towards the angels because they were the ONLY FRESH MEAT IN TOWN and perverts are never satisfied. But being honest isn't the strength of perverts, is it? No, we know it isn't. We watch as every one of them lies EVERY TIME they open their mouths.
Kosher? Are you REALLY that ignorant of the Bible? I think so.
BludBaut 6 months ago
I think Pastor Bob did a good job. Had it been me, I would have told Jennifer that she was doing the old justification to make your sin ok. Scripture is so clear. Even if she doesn't believe that translation is correct with the word for homosexuality, how does she explain Sodom and Gomorrah?
LoriGrayson 6 months ago
@LoriGrayson Many pastors will bend over backwards, some for love and some to avoid criticism and some for several reasons. Praying in love is never wrong and I would have been closer to you in my response to her. In fact, I'm quite bold with the perverts and liars and I think part of it is the influence of my first pastor who often referenced criticism of "scaring them off." His frequent response: "Where am I going to scare them off to? Hell Number Two? God is love, but also "holy, holy, holy."
BludBaut 6 months ago
@LoriGrayson People who give in to their weakness and sin often make excuses for why the Bible is wrong and they are right. Some sins are so hard for people to give up that they will do anything to justify it so they no longer feel the guilt and conviction..unfortunately other people who accept the sin are in the "bed" with them so to speak. It is more loving to tell someone the truth out of love for their souls than to pad their flesh with "lies" . I don't want them to die in their sins.
Chey60 6 months ago
R u running the risk of getting gay? Love one another!
shannelbaker 6 months ago
Yes think it is wrong to say God changes his mind...
innanoshe 7 months ago
Why don't we just pray for Jennifer, that the Holy Spirit comes upon her and convicts her!!
Cyclesalot 7 months ago
@Cyclesalot : so, Jennifer has no free will to decide, you want God to force her to be heterosexual?
breligion 7 months ago
@breligion : Free will was given to those who hadn't received Jesus into their hearts, but as soon as you receive Jesus into your heart you are to turn away from from old life and become a new life in Christ..
Cyclesalot 6 months ago
@breligion Everyone has free will, whether they choose to live the ways of the flesh or the way of God, that is there own choice, I am not condeming her for what she believes, Only God can judge, as we will all be judged when we come before Him.
Cyclesalot 4 months ago
I think this guy needs to come out of the closet
sheilaraerobinson 7 months ago
There is so much emotion involved in this topic. Its kinda crazy. The main thing is that for a Christian person the Bible is the final say. Bob is standing up for this. He is not saying he hates her or that she is a terrible rotten sinner and worse than other people. Anyone living in an unrepentant lifestyle of sex with someone they are not married to will not inherit the kingdom of God. Its in Galatians chpt.5. If we sin, but repent and turn from it, his grace covers us. Is God in charge of u?
kegglecrunch 7 months ago
@kegglecrunch Anyone who talks as much about homosexuality as this guy is usually hiding something.
Just saying.
Water4Jeremiah 7 months ago
@Water4Jeremiah Christ preached against sin, was HE a sinner? John the baptist preached against adultery, was he an adulterer? .. there are some preachers who do preach against certain sins and their spirits are being convicted as well..and there are some whom the enemy begins to work on in the particular sin they are preaching against to see if they will fall prey to it as well... but should they stop preaching in fear of being talked about? God forbid!
Chey60 6 months ago
@Chey60 Well it's a good thing there's no such thing as a god then so there's nothing to fear from anything being forbidden.
Water4Jeremiah 6 months ago
@kegglecrunch I think the reason this is such a huge is issue is the fact that it is one of the few sins that a lot of people are Okaying and saying it is alright to do. The other maybe done in secret but are still considered sin. I think it is the same when Prominent Preachers and stuff divorced... people were in an uproar but thankfully no one is saying it is right. but marring afterwards is sin.
innanoshe 7 months ago
wow dude! you're a f*ckin sinner yet you are throwing stones at others? if gays and lesbians are going to hell, then we will see you there. keep that hatred in your heart and see where it leads you. i feel sorry for your family to have to deal with such a narrow minded asshole. my church is very open and accepting. we even have a float in the local gay pride parade. you are an idiot.
sl8rknnygrrl 8 months ago
Jennifer,Ray Boltz and who ever decides to come out,makes me understand that God is sovereign in election and how Jesus said many will say on that day, Lord,Lord on that day,haven't we done this of that in your name and I will say depart.
CBALLEN 8 months ago
@CBALLEN : how nice, that scumbag savior tortures people who have done things for his "cause". You are in good company with a dictator.
breligion 7 months ago
@breligion No one is saved through works.On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
CBALLEN 7 months ago
@breligion I'll let you in on a secret,you ,I and everyone else are under complete control of the Lord,He will save who He chooses and He will harden and reprobate who He chooses,salvation is not by the will of man,it's by God alone.Many can play Christian for awhlie,but they will finally fall away if God hasn't saved them,but all Jesus begins a good work in,HE FINISHES.
CBALLEN 7 months ago
This man is Satan, preaching hate with a forked tongue but hidden amongst such soft words. God is perfect, he doesn't make mistakes, how arrogant to presume that Jennifer Knapp is not exactly where God wants her.
piersnicholasdarkins 8 months ago
Very well said pastor. Our society is increasingly accepting the "other lifestyle" which is not a lifestyle at all but depraved and open rebellion to God. We do need to lovingly declare God's moral standards.
aldotkd1 8 months ago
You're sick. Jennifer Knapp doesn't need you or any of your followers guidance or help. I hope she wakes up like Pete Stewart did.
apathyinsmalltowns 8 months ago
GLORY TO GOD..TOTALLY AGREE. God's number one problem with man is SIN. The main reason why Jesus came was for SIN. Not for us to continue to live in it but to be set freeeee. Yes, we were born into sin, but God made a way through Jesus Christ!. We ought to grow in holiness, God loves holiness..to grow in love for the things God loves and grow in hate for the things God hate. Homosexuality is a sin and Jennifer should ask the Lord "is it really wrong Lord?.and if it is help me to change this"..
johnjayboy7 9 months ago
as a follower of Christ, i would like to ask Larry King and Jennifer, what about a person who commits the sin of murder,should they still say it does not interfere with their relationship with Christ? since they keep going back to the fact we are all sinners.. She is not even admitting that she is in sin or that she needs God's help..she wants to serve sin and God and it cannot be done..it is a choice..we need God in able to overcome sin..dont give up Jen,you can be free..
bassmanschick 9 months ago
Pastor Bob, i just watched the video of you and Jennifer on LKL. It seems like they all came against you, but you stood your ground. i think it is good to be a light in this dark world. People are too afraid to speak out against sin today. i admire you for speaking out. Thank you.
whimsicalocean 9 months ago
repent=changing of mind, is God repenting?
keaktaing 10 months ago
I suggest anyone who wants the actual truth based on fact regarding this issue read the book : Hate Thy Neighbor by Linda J. Patterson: "explores the Bible verses that are used to condemn homosexuality, and explains why they either do not condemn homosexuality at all, or are far too contextually and culturally removed to warrant a modern-day condemnation. The book also exposes the modern myth of biblical "family values," and explains how the Bible has been used to support slavery." Worth a read
mufc1luv 10 months ago
i had to make a comment cus it was at 666.. she has an awesome voice.. i don't hear you going off on amy grant.. she broke the law of God and got a divorce.. i still hear her on Christain stations.. i don't understand why she is so horriable when she was honest.. sorry
SamiEllingson 10 months ago
i had to make a comment cus it was at 666.. she has an awesome voice.. i don't hear you going off on amy grant.. she broke the law of God and got a divorce.. i still hear her on Christain stations.. i don't understand why she is so horriable when she was honest.. sorry
SamiEllingson 10 months ago
Dear Pastor, I live in Iceland and I watched this video on youtube with you and J. Knapp on Larry king's show. I would like to tell you that I have a great respect for you because you speak for the truth. Don´t give up Pastor!
einkathjalfun 10 months ago
ALL Christians who support "Gay Lifestyles" will have their part in the "Lake of Fire". Willful Sin WILL BE Punished !!
You either stand up for the TRUTH by condemning Sin, instead of condoning Sin. We will all be judged by our thoughts & actions.
Rev 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.
Romans1014Preach 10 months ago
@Romans1014Preach What about the law that says.. we must stone children who curse their parents? the one that says.. its a sin to wear different fabrics? or the one that says.. its a sin to eat shellfish?
These are all in the bible as being sins etc.. yet none of those are taken too seriously in todays culture. And i understand why. The bible doesnt condemn consenting gay loving committed relationships.. anymore than it condemns hetro relationships.
mufc1luv 10 months ago
@mufc1luv Keep on dreaming ! You are under the Wrath of YHWH !
Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites
Romans1014Preach 10 months ago
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starblownkisses 9 months ago
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@Romans1014Preach John 4:16 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him" God didn't come to condemn yet you say we should? Instead of pointing our fingers at each others sin, lets point our fingers at the one that can save them from it. Instead of "this is what's wrong with you" how about we say "This is the one that loves you completely, he can make you whole again"
starblownkisses 9 months ago
I don't know this guy.. But what he is saying is actually a little scary.. How "God can change his mind"..? (The Gospel According To Pastor Bob) He knows Gods mind?? WOW! Amazing!! NOOO, That is HIS INTERPRETATION.. AS IS THE BIBLE THE INTERPRETATION OF THOSE WHO TRANSLATED IT, FROM SACRED & MYSTERIOUS HEBREW & GREEK TEXTS!
How can you put a good living, loving, commited relationship in the same bracket as prostitution or porn just because it happens to be same sex? Love is love is love is love.
mufc1luv 10 months ago 9
@mufc1luv watch?v=dg7S-nnh9G0
That's a former sexual pervert who got delivered and talks about the practical steps that she fought to get out of the deceit that you pretend is normal.
BludBaut 6 months ago
well said bro
facelessDeathsquad 10 months ago
I hope you don't have kids.
RN4fostercare 10 months ago
@RN4fostercare FAILLLLLLL
facelessDeathsquad 10 months ago
Thanks for your guts in sharing truth. I agree 100 percent. God loves Jennifer, and we are all sinners. That being said, we can't be "soft" on sin, saying it is ok. It is not ok, and she is justifying her actions.
THE67MIGHTYMOUSE 10 months ago
Recipe for successful Christian pastor:
1) Speak an octave higher than regular people. That way, you can say the most awful things, and people will still think you're nice
2) Wear glasses. Even though you believe in absolute crap, like "God had a son and impregnated a human called "Mary" (Mary... a person from the Middle East... called "Mary" think about it) and you will still look smart! Good job!
3) Quote mine the Bible. Because you can find justification for anything in there.
wankerpanther 11 months ago
Thanks Pastor for standing for the Truth!
Too bad, hopefully she "cleans the closet".
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
amen!!God bless you pastor!i know youre standing for the truth!!
elai132 1 year ago
Is being judgmental a sin? Jennifer I love you and God includes us all.
Biggcatt8 1 year ago
Oh shut up, really! You're so pathetic... let this woman live her life and stop all your mindless judgement fluff, God understands, so why don't you get on board too.
jennagrey 1 year ago
I am gay and I am in love with my Savior. One thing that people need to realize is that the only thing that can keep you apart from Jesus Christ is you. God has changed my life in more ways than I can begin to name. I have even come to a point where I was more than willing for Him to change my being Gay if that was what I was supposed to be and do. He hasn't change that about me, He has sent me to help people like me.
JacXavier7 1 year ago
@JacXavier7 I just want to encourage you that when Jesus talked to the woman caught in adultry, he told her to "Go and leave your life of sin" This was His command for her to follow out, not that he waved his hand over and took that tendancy away from her. I know that this is not an easy thing to do and will be a lifetime struggle, but it truly is commanded by God. I would encourage you to look at James 5:19-20 I pray that you will take Jesus words, and "Go and leave your life of sin"
pastormarkm 1 year ago
She's in a long-term, committed relationship and loves God. I don't see what's so wrong about that. Truth is being your authentic self, and that's who she is being. Good for her.
ocmozfan 1 year ago
Hypocrites! Hate-Mongers! It's disgusting...know so little, but have so much to say!
timmybergman86 1 year ago
Pastor Bob - I just recently heard this news about jennifer Knapp and watched the Larry King interview. I appreciate that you went on to share truth - even if people don't want to hear it. I think your point about how homosexuality is reaffirmed as being sin in the NT is right on - and addresses a lot of the concerns about why we don't still follow the laws of the pentatuech. However - God does NOT change his mind - I would caution using this terminology regarding the change in standards from
Jesusgirl1 1 year ago 7
what was required from us in the OT versus what is required of us in the NT. God didn't change his mind about the Law, but rather sent Jesus to fulfill the law (much of the levitical law had to do with sanitation and such). Jesus fulfilled the LAW...and now we are not subject to it (fulfilling the law isn't the same as changing His mind). I think saying that God changes His mind opens up a lot of doors for arguments that are completely false. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
Jesusgirl1 1 year ago 10
@Jesusgirl1 If gods perfect right off the bat why does he need to change his mind and why are there so many different religions/bad people. These are but a very VERY small portion of the reasons why I renounced my faith.
BillyT4evr 8 months ago
@Jesusgirl1 I would recommend you both read the scripture rather than recirculate hateful, fallacious misinterpretations of OT text. I know I am dangerously close to buying into a misguided theological argument here... But honestly, as a brother I believe you both would benefit from spending more time in the word and less time discussing others' supposed actions.
APVague 1 year ago
The real reason Christians consider homosexality a greater sin than wearing different threaded clothes and shellfish is because they are all taught at a very young age to be ashamed of their sexuality. They are taught some messed up things that a bunch of 1st century Middle Eastern guys who were afraid to lose their women thought were good ideas. And I can prove it:
If Peter says that you can eat anything you want, then why isn't Jennifer Knapp allowed to eat another woman's pussy?
ddrgenius 1 year ago
@ddrgenius Nobody said homosexuality is a greater sin. The fact that Jennifer lives continually in that one sin, each and every day, and denies that it is sin, is blaspheming the Word of God. The BIble is not open to each person's own interpretation, and Jennifer kept talking about the Greek text being hard to decipher, but the Old Testament was actually Hebrew, the original language of mankind. Both of them are pretty clear, there aren't blurred lines about this, it is in fact a sin against God
normagrace02 1 year ago
@normagrace02 Looks like someone is ashamed of their sexuality. I guess hiding behind 'supernatural fairies' helps hide your own skeletons in the closet doesn't it?
ddrgenius 1 year ago
@ddrgenius Haha Nope, I'm not gay, but nice interpretation...
normagrace02 1 year ago
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ddrgenius 1 year ago
The bad thing about Jennifer Knapp isn't that she's gay. The bad thing is that she was brainwashed to think a god exists.
ddrgenius 1 year ago
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ddrgenius 1 year ago
If we say we love the Lord but can not deny our flesh- it makes me question the sincerity of that statement- to love the Lord fully we must deny “self.” I could go on and on and on and on… but this really makes me sad Sad for her and sad for the generation of so called “Christian” that my children are growing up with as well…
tonnerbonnerful 1 year ago
I do pray that my young daughters will not see her (J Knapp) as an example-no way- she is a confused and lost woman- I pray they look to Paul- who left his sinful life and gave his life for Christ~ and although he endured prison and many hardships and trials on earth he will enjoy a sweet reunion and everlasting communion with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in eternity.
tonnerbonnerful 1 year ago
Thank you Pastor! Well said! People need to start defending the Bible if they call them selves Christians- not distorting it! My prayer is that people that calls themselves Christians stand against the popular “acceptance” of sin- the idea that we love the sinner and not the sin… like the pastor said- if we truly love people let them know they are in a burning building-Get OUT! Change! Turn to CHRIST! You are in a burning building and every second you are rushing to eternity! TURN TO CHRIST!
tonnerbonnerful 1 year ago
Does Jesus's compassion not embrace women who love other women or men who love other men? And is Yahweh such a petty tyrant that he cares who & how we love? If that's what your religion amounts to then i think Nietzsche's right: your god's dead & you killed him with your ax-grinding petty fretful everlasting obsession with other people's sex lives.
ceeleehaight 1 year ago
@ceeleehaight : Jesus' love embraces Jennifer Knapp more than all of humanity. However sin is sin. Homosexual sin and Heterosexual sin. God views it the same, because it breaks His heart. Both are perversions of reality. All sinners great and small are going to hell. So He wants everyone young and old to turn to his son with a repentant heart.
Bones2flesh 1 year ago
@ceeleehaight : Also Nietzshce was a very interesting man. His books are very great reads and are extremely thought provoking
Bones2flesh 1 year ago
Amen he leaves the sin behind.....came to his senses..... Great Word analogy.... Many people want to follow Christ without change but there has to be a willingness to deny your evil desires even if they make you happy.....
Psalmist100 1 year ago
Amos 3 says, "Hear this word that the LORD has spoken against you, O people of Israel, against the whole family that I brought up out of the land of Egypt: You only have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Do two walk together, unless they have agreed to meet?" Jennifer needs to agree w/ the Lord or she is not walking w/ Him. Thx so much Pastor Bob for speaking such a clear and balanced word. Love the sinner, but hate the sin.
cathyulrichify 1 year ago
*sin is sin, *we CAN't compromise, you can't LOVE GOD AND LOVE SIN
geeursweet 1 year ago
the word is very clear, sin us sin, and it's by Gods grace that we are saved. And we all have the chance to live a live pleasing to God. We can compramise. You can't love God but Love sin.. You can't be a cook yet hate food..the word of God is Straight forward..
geeursweet 1 year ago
Let's try to be loving, now, people. You don't have to agree with it or anything, but that's the great thing about free will! If you were to actually study the Bible in the original ancient Aramaic, you would find that these "homosexuality laws" were actually part of the social construct of the time, not the religious. It's nothing really about the "translation" of the word "homosexual," but rather the time period, and social paradigms in which the book was written.
lcmccomb 1 year ago
@lcmccomb I totally agree with you, person I don't know and have never met before in my life.
TheYellowDart1492 1 year ago
Wow all of you people are really dumb.
I hope you all get raped.
Hard.
TheYellowDart1492 1 year ago
In her Larry King Live appearance, Jennifer Knapp mentioned something about the ambiguity of the English translations of the word 'homosexual' taken from the New Testament Greek. I've never heard this argument before. Is this a line of reasoning used by many pro-gay "Christians" today? Is there even a ring of legitimacy to it?
saipanguy23 1 year ago
Amen Bob....Thank you for standing up for the word of God and not backing down. I just found out about Jennifer Knapp which broke my heart but I believe and pray she will come out of deception. Tonight I found the Larry King Live episode and prayed as I watched because it had to be difficult sitting on live TV as all 3 of them came against you....Praise God for how you handled the situation and thank you thank you thank you for representing the truth of God's word!
Snoey79 1 year ago
@Snoey79 VERY well said. I couldn't agree more
preacherswife1113 1 year ago
This clip beautifully puts into perspective God's view of sin and the sinner. The homosexual lifestyle IS clearly denounced in Scripture as a sinful choice, but the pastor quickly points out the appropriate response of the believer: show the offender biblically he is wrong, but love him and pray for his change. Jennifer knows she is loved by this pastor and this church, and deep down she is aware of what she needs to do. Keep loving her and praying for her; there is hope!!
saipanguy23 1 year ago
@saipanguy23 I totally agree. Well said.... Amen
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saipanguy23 1 year ago
Bob is absolutely right and SHE knows it. She just keeps trying to justify it so she can continue in it
preacherswife1113 1 year ago
@preacherswife1113 That is completely false. Jennifer Knapp knows that she's leading a life for God and you are not someone to judge her. Try reading the Bible for once, sinner.
cvgsusfreak08 1 year ago
@cvgsusfreak08 LOL Romans 1
preacherswife1113 1 year ago
@preacherswife1113 LOL The orignal text or one of the many English versions that were translated poorly and are still being debated on which is most accruate. Since they all say different things, ignorant sinner.
cvgsusfreak08 1 year ago
@cvgsusfreak08d Wow pretty hateful there! Your showing your immaturity and ignorance of the Word. Your obviously a pride filled young person with a long way to go
preacherswife1113 1 year ago
We, AS BELIEVERS have to stand up against sin. Their are no shades of gray, you cant be living a life of homosexualityANDliving to please God.. SORRY
geeursweet 1 year ago
@geeursweet You don't know what you're talking