I tried it first with this though but I just couldn't get it, so my advice is stick to what feels the easiest for yourself and once you do it once, you just have to repeat it many times and it will be muscle memoried afterwards :D
@nyoko666 If your 2nd fierce is being blocked, it means you are pressing the fierce button too late. Try pressing fierce immediately after you press jab and strong to feint cancel.
@General64 I believe negative edge is when you do move paired with diagonal up. For example with viper a negative edged burn kick would be down, up/forward, down back + kick. That allows you to air jump and burn kick with the same motion.
@osaskater That is incorrect. Negative Edge is when you're using the release of a button as an input. To explain further, in SF games, when you tap a button, the system registers it as 2 consecutive, but separate inputs of that same button. Once when you press down, and once when you let go. When you use the input from when you let go of a button to perform a special move, that is called negative edge.
Ahhhh FINALLY i see a video of the fuckin' inputs...preciate this...I'm gonna pick up viper now...she looks fun. Fierce QCB neg edge fierce Jab/Strong then fierce EX seismo into the nice combos...I think thats right. Good shit.
for the fff i usually just tap fierce, do another fierce tk, tap all the all 3 punches button right next to it to cancel, and then go from there. i find that the release method tends to make me do an accidental EX tk
yo GoldSamuraiArmor im using the regular ps3 controller (the sixaxis not dualshock 3) and i fff using the medium thunder knuckle cancel and i get the fff consistently...my only problem is that i cant connect the EX semiso consistently after the fff(it comes out sometimes)...my back buttons are setup as followed R1 = fierce punch L1 = all three pucnches...any tips on connecting the EX semiso after the fff on the controller??
dope vid bro. i main Rufus, and decided to pick up Viper as alt cuz of her crazy mixups, and never understood how to pull of FFF. this vid will help a lot. bout to go in the lab and test shit out...
so you hold down the fierce punch while inputing the TK motion and let go to start the animation of the TK? then you fient it with jab and strong right? imma go try it right now
Now I can see why my Rose definitely had no chance against your Viper a few months ago. I've recently changed to Viper from Ryu and these vids have been helpful, thanks man.
That's correct. Try making sure you get the fierce knuckle, but tap the LP + MP after it but allowing the actually HP knuckle to come out. Should be smooth and not rushed.
Yessir I drum whatever 2 buttons feels comfortable. If I don't want to go back too far I tiger knee backwards and double tap on short with my middle/index finger in a 1-2 style. I feel that instant air BK's on a Japanese stick are harder because you have to make sure the proper switches are hit. Instant BK and low trajectory BKs are different. Instant one I use (from P1 side) 2 (hold crouch) 14789 (hold here) + kick. Low trajectory I use 2369 (3 but optional) 214 + K. Tiger knee > QCB
I get the first method, the 14789 (even though she jumps the wrong direction sometimes) The second method you put for low trajectory Burn kick I don't quite understand, just using numeric code, it's 2369214214? (two QCB motions?) sorry in advance for a noob question ten months after your vid lol
I can do it!!!!!!!
I had to use my own technique though ;]
I tried it first with this though but I just couldn't get it, so my advice is stick to what feels the easiest for yourself and once you do it once, you just have to repeat it many times and it will be muscle memoried afterwards :D
Darkeh112 1 year ago
GRR ONLY IF I CAN CANCLE THEM THINGS THAT FAST
I CAN ONLY CANCLE ON ACCIDENT =(
xXiBrEaKXx 1 year ago
what am i doing wrong when i keep getting the super after the second fierce.. instead of ex seismo
Darkeh112 1 year ago
those were some sick viper combos/mix ups ^^
thnx for the vid,too bad i'm a pad user =o
Midossj92 1 year ago
Right now I can only do FFF using the TK feint instead of the seismo feint. Is that good enough in helping to dizzy the opponent?
2000watts 1 year ago
i can get it done, but i hate doing it on the 360 pad. SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!
rmnhn 1 year ago
@nyoko666 If your 2nd fierce is being blocked, it means you are pressing the fierce button too late. Try pressing fierce immediately after you press jab and strong to feint cancel.
alohaamigogo 1 year ago
whats negative edge
General64 2 years ago
@General64 I believe negative edge is when you do move paired with diagonal up. For example with viper a negative edged burn kick would be down, up/forward, down back + kick. That allows you to air jump and burn kick with the same motion.
osaskater 2 years ago
@osaskater That is incorrect. Negative Edge is when you're using the release of a button as an input. To explain further, in SF games, when you tap a button, the system registers it as 2 consecutive, but separate inputs of that same button. Once when you press down, and once when you let go. When you use the input from when you let go of a button to perform a special move, that is called negative edge.
alohaamigogo 1 year ago
@General64 it could also be when he releases the fierce button, because releasing a held button counts as an input.
osaskater 2 years ago 7
Ahhhh FINALLY i see a video of the fuckin' inputs...preciate this...I'm gonna pick up viper now...she looks fun. Fierce QCB neg edge fierce Jab/Strong then fierce EX seismo into the nice combos...I think thats right. Good shit.
wDawks 2 years ago
Goddamn your on EVERY sf 4 video huh.
Virtualwallvirus 2 years ago
haha, whaat? Yeah my comments are everywhere if thats what you meant.
wDawks 2 years ago
for the fff i usually just tap fierce, do another fierce tk, tap all the all 3 punches button right next to it to cancel, and then go from there. i find that the release method tends to make me do an accidental EX tk
XStarscreamJupiterX 2 years ago
yo GoldSamuraiArmor im using the regular ps3 controller (the sixaxis not dualshock 3) and i fff using the medium thunder knuckle cancel and i get the fff consistently...my only problem is that i cant connect the EX semiso consistently after the fff(it comes out sometimes)...my back buttons are setup as followed R1 = fierce punch L1 = all three pucnches...any tips on connecting the EX semiso after the fff on the controller??
prettyboycj100 2 years ago
lol magman your not crazy enough to pick viper against me you better stick to gief or honda or something =)
I do everything the good old fashion way no gimmicks
FlashMetroid 2 years ago
yo flash you play on live ?
mazaradi422 2 years ago
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Kreymore 2 years ago
negative edging the FP TK.....I dont agree with that at all......I think this method of doing FFF is terrible
FlashMetroid 2 years ago
When I hit you with it I'll use your way then<3 rofl.
GoldSamuraiArmor 2 years ago
So whats your method Flash?
ch1b1 2 years ago
@FlashMetroid He's pulling it off, I don't see the issue.
DemihumanGosu 1 year ago
@FlashMetroid you really think so? cause i'm learning viper and if FM himself says its not good then i'll learn it the hard way
tr1tan 1 year ago
how long have you been using the stick..im trying to transition to the stick from a pad
skatestar178 2 years ago
dope vid bro. i main Rufus, and decided to pick up Viper as alt cuz of her crazy mixups, and never understood how to pull of FFF. this vid will help a lot. bout to go in the lab and test shit out...
peace!
sundalo916 2 years ago
you should practice what you are going to say before shooting. You made no sense at all. you were confusing yourself
BIGGBAGA 2 years ago
shit man i gave up on viper few months back, not anymore!!!.
great vid learned lots like the others.
goofyz 2 years ago
your viper is sick
Valorios 2 years ago
good shit bruh, learned a lot watchin ur vids, check out my vid on double feint combo (no juggle)
DUMBstoopid 2 years ago
lol i get EX TK like 80 percent of the time.
only1option 2 years ago
my fingers ain't fast enough!!!!!! ugh
only1option 2 years ago
holy shit, i didn't know that.
so you hold down the fierce punch while inputing the TK motion and let go to start the animation of the TK? then you fient it with jab and strong right? imma go try it right now
DaveyDave808 2 years ago
Now I can see why my Rose definitely had no chance against your Viper a few months ago. I've recently changed to Viper from Ryu and these vids have been helpful, thanks man.
doodleboi 2 years ago
got timing for fierce -> hp TK but cant feint it. if ex TK comes out i'm pressing lp + mp too fast?
OmnipotentO 2 years ago
That's correct. Try making sure you get the fierce knuckle, but tap the LP + MP after it but allowing the actually HP knuckle to come out. Should be smooth and not rushed.
GoldSamuraiArmor 2 years ago
How are you doing your instant air BKs? What are your motions and when do you hit the button? Also, do you drum RH and FWD?
OneHandedTerror 2 years ago
Yessir I drum whatever 2 buttons feels comfortable. If I don't want to go back too far I tiger knee backwards and double tap on short with my middle/index finger in a 1-2 style. I feel that instant air BK's on a Japanese stick are harder because you have to make sure the proper switches are hit. Instant BK and low trajectory BKs are different. Instant one I use (from P1 side) 2 (hold crouch) 14789 (hold here) + kick. Low trajectory I use 2369 (3 but optional) 214 + K. Tiger knee > QCB
GoldSamuraiArmor 2 years ago
can you translate the numbers for me plz i have no idea what you said...
i use QCB then up forward + HK... it doesnt come out consistently... (i have Hori pro3 stick)
is it becuase of my stick??
ehanded 2 years ago
@GoldSamuraiArmor
I get the first method, the 14789 (even though she jumps the wrong direction sometimes) The second method you put for low trajectory Burn kick I don't quite understand, just using numeric code, it's 2369214214? (two QCB motions?) sorry in advance for a noob question ten months after your vid lol
evilwizardaku 1 year ago
i wish i could just steal your hands and paste them onto my arms
Inware 2 years ago
That's what she said.
GoldSamuraiArmor 2 years ago
Rofl. Everyone should have seen that coming.
LaSwagga 2 years ago
nooooooooo
umthrfkr 2 years ago
I guess its not worth doing Vipers advanced moves on any pad, huh
SolidMGsnake 2 years ago
Thank you for the nice and glary video man. LOL
yo, r u gunna do a video on her super jump cancels? That's one of the things I'm trying to figure out myself
ThaBlackFlash 2 years ago