I agree 100% evolution is bullcrap. If you guys wanna claim to be related to apes and insult yourselves like that, be my guest. However, my fellow Christians and I know the truth.
@jikchi1234 ummmm.... I think i'll put my lot in with the enormous scientific community which has had access to modern education and technology to research and explore the validity of evolution rather than your ancient, magical stories proposed by sheep herders thousands of years ago who had the collective knowledge of our place in the universe as a modern day pre-schooler.
@fongfongy why have they had about 20 hoax missing links?
lol one made from finding a tooth wich turned out to be a pigs tooth.
Could it be that there is no chain missing as there is no chain? Could it be that they know this very well and are despertae for us to beelive in evolution to take man awya from the one true God who is the architect? All you have is either ape or man.There are many weird things about evolution and many conundrums.One what did the first creature marry and eat??
@firstatheist Careful... The laptop was DESIGNED and CREATED... Intelligent design? Creationism? Always be very careful with offering up parallels which can lead to an argument for the other side, how ridiculous it may be. :)
Again you make the mistake your side is so fond of making. I was showing absurdity of Welle's apparent ignorance of an irreversible reaction (see thermal physics).
Computers have nothing to do with a living thing. We know computers are designed because we know computer designers and have seen them design them. We don't know life designers. You're arguing from a hopelessly flawed analogy, Mr Kent Hovind.
@firstatheist "Again"? And: can you not UNDERSTAND what I wrote? Try reading "an argument for the OTHER SIDE, how RIDICULOUS it may be" again. What does that tell you?
Dear lord, if this is the state of our atheists, the religious might just win the battle.
You're making an argument from "design" which is a fundamentally flawed argument from analogy. David Hume pointed this out almost 300 yrs ago in Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. Repeating bad arguments doesn't improve their cogency. Reason and science aren't with you on this.
@firstatheist Dude! Read! I'm an ATHEIST. I'm saying: don't use this argument, because the OTHER SIDE will use CREATIONISM as a response!
Fucking hell mate, you're an atheist, but you respond like a fucking religious zealot. You see the words "creationism" and "intelligent design" and go into some mental frenzy without actually READING. Stupid idiot.
Alright, I'm face-palming myself. I thought you were serious and didn't get you allusions to the fact that you were being sarcastic. My bad. My only defense is to claim Poe's Law.
@firstatheist@firstatheist Thank you. And I in my turn apologize for my rant. Apparently comments on youtube can really piss me off to an unreasonable extent. :)
He tries to explain the so called primordial soup..what he failed to mention is that you have maintain and cook that mixture for say 2 billion years..and who knows what will hatch. Besides scientists already have created life by artificially assembling DNA and inserting it in a "primordial soup" it just works..hell it worked for billion of years.
I love the idea that just because thier are gaps in our scientific understanding of how life started that people think that it proves a god... And they dont even understand why that isnt the case... Were pretty close now to knowing anyway...
If you are going to call something ignorant, then don't be ignorant in your criticism of it. You are misconstruing what he is saying and then ridiculing him for your own misunderstanding. What he is claiming is that a suitable environment can support life but it cannot create it.
@formerevolutionist No, he's saying that a modern cell is supposed to be somehow comparable to an initial self replicating system, which is indeed ignorant.
Not science, hence he hasnt written a paper about this "experiment", see even wells knows its totally stupid what he is claiming, but he knows the creatards will love it and being stupid not realise how stupid it is, hence making him money from the stupid creatards.
@formerevolutionist However, it can create it. Also, Jonathan Wells is saying 'Since they cannot create it my God exists' which is truly ignorant. I don't think the uploader misunderstood at all. Since Jonathan Wells has devoted his life to 'destroying' Darwinism. It's safe to assume this is what the video is about.
So what? Creationists like to tout the watch argument. "If I find a watch on a beach, I can assume there is a creator." Really, fools? You don't see any problems with that argument? Universes and human beings can be composed of component parts on assembly lines? I'm not saying that synthetic life will never be possible, but as far as we know, it isn't. Sorry. I'm going to stick with what I know and continue to suspend belief and disbelief in regard to what I can't know.
An atheist is someone who believes that it is completely impossible for a dead man to rise again after three days but that it is entirely plausible that, given enough time, non-living matter can assemble itself and come alive. Insanity!
Mr. Wells, why did you not poke a hole into your own body, big enough to let your organs drop out and then let your God put you together again like a jig-puzzle. After all, it is not that one living cell you just killed, claiming there is a God.. so the burden of proof is on you, idiot!
Unreal! He proved that one can kill a living entity with a sharp metal object. What an earth shattering discovery! I'm instantly and totally convinced beyond any doubt that all the 2000+ religions are true.
I watched some interviews of this guy and he looks pretty smart. (Not like those dumb arses like the Banana Man). He is probably getting money to advocate the intelligent design nonsense.
Islam means peace .jihad only allowed against criminals kafir who want to kill good innocent Muslims. Islam first allow to kill the criminal Muslims by its strict law. every non-Muslims is not a kafir. many non-Muslims who don’t know Islam properly they never read Quran they never try to understand Islam with a good Muslims neighbor and friends. just by listening looking dirty media controlling by islam enemies don’t be victim of islamphobia.try to understand islam with good scholar
@dpremi1126 islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. Submission to a god who has commanded his followers (muslims) to spread the islamic religion worldwide and to kill apostates and to oppress women and to prosecute rape victims for the crime of being raped.... now I'm not saying there aren't good muslims, I know several, but don't make these shameless excuses
It's good to see that the person in question attempted to follow the scientific method. He had a clear experiment, but all that he's done wrong is misinterpret the results. That could be solved quite simply by discussing it, instead of just poking holes in his character or use of language.
I'd also like to say that the cell probably doesn't 'reform' because it is too complex. The most basic forms of life were probably astoudingly simple, hundreds of times so than a whole cell.
To be fair, I think he uses "light years" as a figure of speech here, not literally. As in, "that pitch was horrible, it was light years away from the plate." To me at least, it seems like he's trying to see that you would still be far away from creating life. Don't know much about evolution (or creationism) so I'll keep my mouth shut, but I'm just saying I think you all may have misunderstood what he was trying to say.
So let me get this straight. If you kill something, and it stays dead, and the pieces of that dead thing don't spontaneously create a new, living, thing, then there is a god and life couldn't have happened any other way? Is that what he's saying? Because that sounds like what he's saying.
so many people pretend not to understand the english idiom, like "light years away." If he had said something about raining cats and dogs, would you be calling him stupid because precipitation is rarely animals?
Not to mention that a fully evolved eukaryotic cell is likely way beyond the first progenitors, which were likely composed of some genetic information, a lipid membrane (easy to make in a test tube), and a few expressed proteins.
Yes this one person out of billions has the answer to all of the universe.....this is a typical example of the arrogance of humans. Even all of us put together don't really know shit in the whole scheme of things.
I'm think this ass is missing about a million parts to the equation, proper light and energy is two of them, but then again maybe there is only two parts to the answer ?
He obviously doesn't understand evolutionary processes. just because the pieces of the cell don't reform back together doesn't mean that they don't evolve from more basic structures. With his logic, you should be able to slice a human to pieces and with the necessary conditions, the pieces should be able to magically form a new human structure.
He is right, living cells were not created from a mixture of chemicals in the sea. They are the product of a long line of primitive replicators that gradually became more and more complex. All that was needed to start the process was a molecule that could copy itself.
@kblargh Good point,there is nothing ignorant here,atheists are just defending their belief and any who says they have no belief have not thought it through
@pinball281 Why must there be a reason for existence?
However, if you must know what *I* personally think, I believe we're here to propagate the species. Any other meaning or virtue we wish to claim is personal choice. I do not think there is a greater meaning than that which you provide for yourself.
@kblargh 1) He is essentially saying evolution's wrong because if you kill a cell, it doesn't come back to life if you really try. That's like saying it's impossible to give birth because if I shoot a guy, bandage him and shove him back in the womb, he's still dead. 2) A modern cell is not the simplest organism, it has evolved into a very complex thing over 4 billion years. The earliest cells were just balls of lipids with pieces of codons in them, not even close to what is here today.
hold on,this guy loves science,you love science.He has a different belief or out look than you,whats inorant here? Do you not think the universe having an arhitect and reason is a logical curiosity.I dont think this is about science,you dont want God to exist.Well for all we know God does exist.
@pinball281 well please show the evidence of that god exiists./(pleae no qouotes from the bible because that is no way ,shape or form proof.give something real,and quantifiable.
@jknightxx i cant prove God,i beleive in God.People can beleive in what they wish but were are you looking for evidence of God.What makes you so confident this universe can exist without having a cause or reason.Something putside the universe had to get the ball rolling.You cant answer the question of why are we here.The big bang begs the question of what imploded and why? Well the universe has laws,who is the law giver? we know the building blocks of life but who is the builder?
Of course a cell can't be made from a solution of its components. It needs to be made from another cell. But the point is that there is plenty of research/ evidence which shows us that reproducing RNA (which is made from a solution of it's components) can be produced in a lab. each individual component of the cell can't replicate or come together but evolution is the way in which naturally, complex cells are manufactured from replicating RNA.
@Caravandrums Or possibly an ignoranus - someone who is both stupid and an asshole :P
I tend to agree with the title though. The argument presented (which elsewhere is touted as a disproof of abiogenesis) is full of fundamental gaps in understanding - or deliberate misunderstandings - of the principles behind abiogenesis.
If you put a bunch of wires, transistors, and silicone into a plastic bag, filled the bag with solder, then shook the bag up, you probably wouldnt get an intel dual core processor.
Actually, scientist HAVE created specimens that behave like cells. Although they are not actually living, they can do things such as divide and reproduce.
@goldendragonchild "Although they are not actually living, they can do things such as divide and reproduce." How do we determine then that they were not alive? Did they have a metabolic nutrient/waste process? If they can metabolize and they can reproduce, then that satisfies the two most basic features of "life" right there :)
right from the start he uses 'light years' as a measure of time instead of distance shows he doesn't know what he is talking about, ......and it goes downhill from there
@nocluedan actually the use of "light years" isn't a reference to time he's just saying going from the experiment to "making life" is a really, really long jump in science. It's just used to express a large distance.
@MRTUBEYOUWATCHER anybody with basic skills can create life in a lab, My sister is a research biologist who has patents on life forms she created that will someday be used to cure cancer
@nocluedan A lot of people use the slang "off by a mile" even though a mile is a distance. Like if you answer a question wrong, people say you're off by a mile even though it's not an actual distance you're talking about. Typical fucking atheist...smarter than everyone else.
@YesYou123333 and you are such a prime example of what god had in mind........he does not have the integrity to pass himself off as a scientist, he doesn;t know what he is talking about, and nor do you Oh and I wont debate with creationists anymore because there is no debate, genesis was a folk tale for sheep herders
@GDop26 ... and also have thousands of other things happen. The experiment only proved how ONE particular event in the chain was possible, perhaps inevitable. But to pin down the exact chain of events, that is much, much harder.
@tiagow95 I think he means that they're still a long distance away from making a living cell ("they're still miles away from...).
Of course, our ability to make a living cell does not mean that living cells cannot happen (and the earliest cells probably would not even fit today's definition of life). We can't make stars, either, but they're still forming naturally.
So...what your'e saying is...you can't put a living cell in a test tube, poke a hole in it (essentially kill it), and bring it back to life again....brilliant. You've earned a Banana Sticker.
@electronicjordy97 "This would mean that any god or goddess imaginable, even those unimaginable, must exist" Not true. I said that everything that is POSSIBLE must exist; not everything you can imagine.
Even imagining something makes it exist, because if you didnt k=have the existing idea in your head, you wouldnt have an idea at all, so you wouldnt be discussing that subject.
@Quakeboy02 That doesnt follow what ive said at all, i think you are not understanding this properly, God exists, there is no question of that because humans have an idea of god, therefore He must exist (in the mind at least) what you should be discussing is if god is in the real world or not? And in answer to your question, no, because humans would still have an idea of God, so in the mind he'd still exist, even if in reality he wouldnt.
@123LFCNICK You cannot use "I can think of god" to indicate that god exists, only that a CONCEPT of god exists. The concept is not the thing. I can imagine all sorts of random weirdness, that does not mean it exists.
@TheMonk72 It does, because it exists in your mind, it doesnt mean it exists in this world, but in a possible world it has the potential to exist. Or so my philosophy teacher says
@123LFCNICK The concept is not the thing. A concept can exist for a thing that does not exist. In fact concepts can exist for things that CANNOT exist. Simply having a concept of something does not give that something any form of existence.
Show this to your Philosophy teacher and see what he says.
@PinkPsych00 Cells aren't really like that though, they're just a combination of materials in a specific order, so it can be argued that the ingredients in the proper setting can turn into a cell. Its basically like cloning. Anyway it doesn't matter because a cell is too complex to have been the first step
@Antilli The line between living and non-living is not a sharp line. Forget about living and non living and forget about abiogenesis. First you need a molecule that can replicate differentially. Then Natural selection takes over from there and evolution starts.
@nsugathadasa I define life as anything which has the ability to both metabolize and reproduce. There are some current types of "life" that do not necessarily meet the criteria of this definition independently, such as virii. While a virus contains DNA that encodes its form and function, it requires an infected host cell to perform metabolic functions.
I don't understand how a particle accelerator works. I don't believe they exist.
photondance 19 hours ago
i don't know wether to like or dislike this video
BennyBoyZinz 2 days ago
I agree 100% evolution is bullcrap. If you guys wanna claim to be related to apes and insult yourselves like that, be my guest. However, my fellow Christians and I know the truth.
jikchi1234 4 days ago
@jikchi1234 ummmm.... I think i'll put my lot in with the enormous scientific community which has had access to modern education and technology to research and explore the validity of evolution rather than your ancient, magical stories proposed by sheep herders thousands of years ago who had the collective knowledge of our place in the universe as a modern day pre-schooler.
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@fongfongy why have they had about 20 hoax missing links?
lol one made from finding a tooth wich turned out to be a pigs tooth.
Could it be that there is no chain missing as there is no chain? Could it be that they know this very well and are despertae for us to beelive in evolution to take man awya from the one true God who is the architect? All you have is either ape or man.There are many weird things about evolution and many conundrums.One what did the first creature marry and eat??
pinball281 3 days ago
@jikchi1234 amen
weetoable 3 days ago
@jikchi1234 *translation* I don't understand evolution. So it must be wrong. Apes = man. Fuck no, I'm better than an ape. I'm better than anything.
LIANG14 1 day ago
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LOL why so many dislikes??
pinball281 5 days ago
You know how I can tell that this guy is a moron? He thinks a light-year is a unit of time. IT'S A UNIT OF DISTANCE YOU IGNORANT FUCKWIT.
Logarithmify 6 days ago
That's like killing a baby, taking off all of its limbs, shoving it up a woman's vagina, and wondering why she isn't pregnant.
blaggyblah 6 days ago 2
The title of this video should be: Not understanding large numbers and statistics, lesson 1.
KryzMasta 6 days ago
I dismantled my laptop and threw it in the garbage. The next morning it was still garbage. It had everything it needed to build a laptop.
Checkmate Atheists!
firstatheist 1 week ago
@firstatheist Careful... The laptop was DESIGNED and CREATED... Intelligent design? Creationism? Always be very careful with offering up parallels which can lead to an argument for the other side, how ridiculous it may be. :)
KryzMasta 6 days ago
@KryzMasta
Again you make the mistake your side is so fond of making. I was showing absurdity of Welle's apparent ignorance of an irreversible reaction (see thermal physics).
Computers have nothing to do with a living thing. We know computers are designed because we know computer designers and have seen them design them. We don't know life designers. You're arguing from a hopelessly flawed analogy, Mr Kent Hovind.
firstatheist 6 days ago
@firstatheist "Again"? And: can you not UNDERSTAND what I wrote? Try reading "an argument for the OTHER SIDE, how RIDICULOUS it may be" again. What does that tell you?
Dear lord, if this is the state of our atheists, the religious might just win the battle.
KryzMasta 5 days ago
@KryzMasta
You're making an argument from "design" which is a fundamentally flawed argument from analogy. David Hume pointed this out almost 300 yrs ago in Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. Repeating bad arguments doesn't improve their cogency. Reason and science aren't with you on this.
firstatheist 5 days ago
@firstatheist Dude! Read! I'm an ATHEIST. I'm saying: don't use this argument, because the OTHER SIDE will use CREATIONISM as a response!
Fucking hell mate, you're an atheist, but you respond like a fucking religious zealot. You see the words "creationism" and "intelligent design" and go into some mental frenzy without actually READING. Stupid idiot.
KryzMasta 5 days ago
@KryzMasta
Alright, I'm face-palming myself. I thought you were serious and didn't get you allusions to the fact that you were being sarcastic. My bad. My only defense is to claim Poe's Law.
firstatheist 5 days ago
@firstatheist @firstatheist Thank you. And I in my turn apologize for my rant. Apparently comments on youtube can really piss me off to an unreasonable extent. :)
KryzMasta 5 days ago
@firstatheist Oh, and note the smiley at the end of my initial comment.
Now, can you PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES AND READ, for fuck's sake?!
KryzMasta 5 days ago
2009 John Sutherland and his team created RNA in a lab, case closed.
baldurus1 1 week ago
@TheReegar,because the bible says so! -_-
reeceyhiggs 1 week ago
He murdered a cell.
toddles9 1 week ago
This is incomprehensible bullshit to any rational person
jeffbro2 1 week ago 2
I don't like this dude's beard!!
26declanjones 1 week ago
Surely monotheists must realise the weakness of their philosophy by now? If not it kind of proves how narrowminded they must be. Doesn't it?
TheReegar 1 week ago
He tries to explain the so called primordial soup..what he failed to mention is that you have maintain and cook that mixture for say 2 billion years..and who knows what will hatch. Besides scientists already have created life by artificially assembling DNA and inserting it in a "primordial soup" it just works..hell it worked for billion of years.
savcob 1 week ago
I love the idea that just because thier are gaps in our scientific understanding of how life started that people think that it proves a god... And they dont even understand why that isnt the case... Were pretty close now to knowing anyway...
FullMetalInsanity 1 week ago
lol
xpforl 1 week ago
If you are going to call something ignorant, then don't be ignorant in your criticism of it. You are misconstruing what he is saying and then ridiculing him for your own misunderstanding. What he is claiming is that a suitable environment can support life but it cannot create it.
formerevolutionist 2 weeks ago
@formerevolutionist No, he's saying that a modern cell is supposed to be somehow comparable to an initial self replicating system, which is indeed ignorant.
TheScienceFoundation 1 week ago
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@formerevolutionist
"What he is claiming is"
Not science, hence he hasnt written a paper about this "experiment", see even wells knows its totally stupid what he is claiming, but he knows the creatards will love it and being stupid not realise how stupid it is, hence making him money from the stupid creatards.
gorilla199uncensored 1 week ago
@formerevolutionist However, it can create it. Also, Jonathan Wells is saying 'Since they cannot create it my God exists' which is truly ignorant. I don't think the uploader misunderstood at all. Since Jonathan Wells has devoted his life to 'destroying' Darwinism. It's safe to assume this is what the video is about.
Geekey37 1 week ago
So what? Creationists like to tout the watch argument. "If I find a watch on a beach, I can assume there is a creator." Really, fools? You don't see any problems with that argument? Universes and human beings can be composed of component parts on assembly lines? I'm not saying that synthetic life will never be possible, but as far as we know, it isn't. Sorry. I'm going to stick with what I know and continue to suspend belief and disbelief in regard to what I can't know.
ZeusYourUncle 2 weeks ago
You are completely right. We can't bring the dead back to life.
marazification 2 weeks ago
How is this ignorant? He just wants to kill a few non-believers. Such an honorable man!
thippyboy77 2 weeks ago
SCIENCE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
0MrAnon2 2 weeks ago
hahahaha!
cablob 2 weeks ago
No, that's far from ignorant.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 weeks ago
So I take it this idiot observed the test tube for 600 million years.
dave474c 2 weeks ago
An atheist is someone who believes that it is completely impossible for a dead man to rise again after three days but that it is entirely plausible that, given enough time, non-living matter can assemble itself and come alive. Insanity!
bestvalue 2 weeks ago
@bestvalue That's what's known as a strawman.
TheScienceFoundation 1 week ago
"you're still light years away..."? Fuck me...
lloydduggan92 2 weeks ago
Mr. Wells, why did you not poke a hole into your own body, big enough to let your organs drop out and then let your God put you together again like a jig-puzzle. After all, it is not that one living cell you just killed, claiming there is a God.. so the burden of proof is on you, idiot!
Smirnoff71 2 weeks ago
Unreal! He proved that one can kill a living entity with a sharp metal object. What an earth shattering discovery! I'm instantly and totally convinced beyond any doubt that all the 2000+ religions are true.
ununununununun37 3 weeks ago
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I watched some interviews of this guy and he looks pretty smart. (Not like those dumb arses like the Banana Man). He is probably getting money to advocate the intelligent design nonsense.
nsugathadasa 3 weeks ago
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nsugathadasa 3 weeks ago
Evolution = the biggest lie ever
Maanie09 3 weeks ago
@Maanie09 you know what I find funny? the fact that you buy gasoline. but the earth is just 6000 years old. *trollface*
Nemejester 3 weeks ago
@Maanie09 is it?
85Damix 3 weeks ago
Islam means peace .jihad only allowed against criminals kafir who want to kill good innocent Muslims. Islam first allow to kill the criminal Muslims by its strict law. every non-Muslims is not a kafir. many non-Muslims who don’t know Islam properly they never read Quran they never try to understand Islam with a good Muslims neighbor and friends. just by listening looking dirty media controlling by islam enemies don’t be victim of islamphobia.try to understand islam with good scholar
dpremi1126 3 weeks ago
@dpremi1126 YES, bad Western propaganda, just look on the Middle East how prospering and happy is it :D :D :D
85Damix 3 weeks ago
@dpremi1126 islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. Submission to a god who has commanded his followers (muslims) to spread the islamic religion worldwide and to kill apostates and to oppress women and to prosecute rape victims for the crime of being raped.... now I'm not saying there aren't good muslims, I know several, but don't make these shameless excuses
kennedyt 3 weeks ago
Good video.
77raymondt 3 weeks ago
Yes, God molding man from dirt then breathing life into him is much more scientific and plausible.
donutsndingleberries 3 weeks ago
And so the tube was the beginning on earth!
celpabedn 3 weeks ago
It's good to see that the person in question attempted to follow the scientific method. He had a clear experiment, but all that he's done wrong is misinterpret the results. That could be solved quite simply by discussing it, instead of just poking holes in his character or use of language.
I'd also like to say that the cell probably doesn't 'reform' because it is too complex. The most basic forms of life were probably astoudingly simple, hundreds of times so than a whole cell.
IntricateRhetoric 3 weeks ago
To be fair, I think he uses "light years" as a figure of speech here, not literally. As in, "that pitch was horrible, it was light years away from the plate." To me at least, it seems like he's trying to see that you would still be far away from creating life. Don't know much about evolution (or creationism) so I'll keep my mouth shut, but I'm just saying I think you all may have misunderstood what he was trying to say.
lamborger 3 weeks ago
"I can't do it so it must be magic." That seems to be what this nutjob is saying.
ZombieJesus413 3 weeks ago
from what I can gather, he is putting forward an argument in favour of a creator, and not for the prime ordinal soup theory... which I agree with.
Thom in Scotland.
fuelban 3 weeks ago
"I can't see how this could possibly happen naturally, so it must have been done by a magic man. Derp."
ralphenstein 3 weeks ago 3
So let me get this straight. If you kill something, and it stays dead, and the pieces of that dead thing don't spontaneously create a new, living, thing, then there is a god and life couldn't have happened any other way? Is that what he's saying? Because that sounds like what he's saying.
MrKyltpzyxm 3 weeks ago 46
love how he misses the fact that an ocean is bigger then a test tube....
heinzie5 4 weeks ago
"...it's totally unrealistic."
Now the Bible, on the other hand...
eequalsfb 4 weeks ago 62
sorry , i live in this century, not 1000 years ago, best of luck with that.
Arcusinoz 4 weeks ago
so many people pretend not to understand the english idiom, like "light years away." If he had said something about raining cats and dogs, would you be calling him stupid because precipitation is rarely animals?
madeofbrix1 4 weeks ago
@madeofbrix1 yes.
MrKyltpzyxm 3 weeks ago
Conclusion: there are no zombie cells.
kef4o 4 weeks ago
the worst part? this same video is also titled something like "proof that evolution doesnt exist" bbbahahoahohhaohohaoohao
blindedby2monkeys 4 weeks ago
And if you disassemble a Ford GTR in an automotive workshop, It will never become a Model T.
Voxnulla 4 weeks ago 2
This fat fuck would have been one of the morons who said the earth was flat hundreds of years ago.
SethHesio 4 weeks ago
So basically he is saying that if you kill something, it stays dead. Oh god... I had no idea!
thesunderedtree 4 weeks ago
YOU FORGOTZ TO MULTIPLY THE TEST TUBES BY SEVERAL QUADRILLION AND MAKE THE TIME FRAME SEVERAL MILLION YEARS.
Darkrider6970 1 month ago
Not to mention that a fully evolved eukaryotic cell is likely way beyond the first progenitors, which were likely composed of some genetic information, a lipid membrane (easy to make in a test tube), and a few expressed proteins.
Darkrider6970 1 month ago
Yes this one person out of billions has the answer to all of the universe.....this is a typical example of the arrogance of humans. Even all of us put together don't really know shit in the whole scheme of things.
rsmith1240 1 month ago
is this guy still trying to play dr.
imthegoat100 1 month ago
@imthegoat100 That;s cause he is a doctor. Thanks to the university of doctorology on the net :P.
Pieh0 1 month ago
I'm think this ass is missing about a million parts to the equation, proper light and energy is two of them, but then again maybe there is only two parts to the answer ?
Alien + test tube !
smartazuis 1 month ago
"heres how i know..."
haha oh jeez. retard to the max
smokelakes 1 month ago
murderer
swiftyJ88 1 month ago
He obviously doesn't understand evolutionary processes. just because the pieces of the cell don't reform back together doesn't mean that they don't evolve from more basic structures. With his logic, you should be able to slice a human to pieces and with the necessary conditions, the pieces should be able to magically form a new human structure.
INSAYNE7 1 month ago
He is right, living cells were not created from a mixture of chemicals in the sea. They are the product of a long line of primitive replicators that gradually became more and more complex. All that was needed to start the process was a molecule that could copy itself.
laARTstream 1 month ago
beliefs aside, what's so ignorant about this?
kblargh 1 month ago
@kblargh Good point,there is nothing ignorant here,atheists are just defending their belief and any who says they have no belief have not thought it through
pinball281 1 month ago
@pinball281 Atheist do NOT have a belief system!
Atheism is a REJECTION of god claims and the claims of religion. NOTHING MORE.
Atheism has no dogma, doctrine, value system, morality, tenets, beliefs and promotes nothing of the sort.
Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color, like unemployment is a job, like celibacy is sex, like not playing chess is a hobby.
On the contrary, there is something ignorant here. It is you as concerns atheism.
ciaochowbella 1 month ago
@ciaochowbella so why do you believe we are here??
pinball281 1 month ago
@pinball281 Why must there be a reason for existence?
However, if you must know what *I* personally think, I believe we're here to propagate the species. Any other meaning or virtue we wish to claim is personal choice. I do not think there is a greater meaning than that which you provide for yourself.
ciaochowbella 1 week ago
@pinball281 Spot on!
shakinahstorm 1 month ago
@kblargh 1) He is essentially saying evolution's wrong because if you kill a cell, it doesn't come back to life if you really try. That's like saying it's impossible to give birth because if I shoot a guy, bandage him and shove him back in the womb, he's still dead. 2) A modern cell is not the simplest organism, it has evolved into a very complex thing over 4 billion years. The earliest cells were just balls of lipids with pieces of codons in them, not even close to what is here today.
iluvatar003 1 month ago
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@iluvatar003 "Evolution is unproven and unprovable. We believe it only because the only alternative is special creation, and that is unthinkable."
pinball281 1 month ago
Then add 10,000 years.
MrBeautifulba1 1 month ago
hold on,this guy loves science,you love science.He has a different belief or out look than you,whats inorant here? Do you not think the universe having an arhitect and reason is a logical curiosity.I dont think this is about science,you dont want God to exist.Well for all we know God does exist.
pinball281 1 month ago 2
@pinball281 well please show the evidence of that god exiists./(pleae no qouotes from the bible because that is no way ,shape or form proof.give something real,and quantifiable.
jknightxx 1 month ago
@jknightxx i cant prove God,i beleive in God.People can beleive in what they wish but were are you looking for evidence of God.What makes you so confident this universe can exist without having a cause or reason.Something putside the universe had to get the ball rolling.You cant answer the question of why are we here.The big bang begs the question of what imploded and why? Well the universe has laws,who is the law giver? we know the building blocks of life but who is the builder?
pinball281 1 month ago
@pinball281 "You cant answer the question of why are we here"
And neither can you. The difference between me and you (atheist/theist) is that I have no problem with the phrase "I don't know".
Classic god of the gaps. You're filling the gap of knowledge with your god. Solving a mystery with a mystery is nonsense.
"who is the builder". All you're doing is asserting that there has to be a "builder" because the religion you chose says there has to be one.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@pinball281 Wow.....is your name "Strawman"?
ciaochowbella 1 month ago
Lol, best description
AndreasZimmerman 1 month ago
What exactly is ignorant here?
5555miles 1 month ago
@5555miles The idea that a modern cell is in any way equivalent to initial life that would have arisen on the early earth.
TheScienceFoundation 1 month ago
@5555miles The guy says non sense to support his belief in magical carpenter.
85Damix 3 weeks ago
@85Damix That's not rare. You're talking about a majority of humankind and a big portion of scientists even in my country, Finland. Have a respect.
5555miles 3 weeks ago
Looks like a couple of people don't understand figurative language.
SikMedia 1 month ago
That's like chopping up a human body and expecting it to reform and come back alive, because all the parts are still here.
Wotanraven 1 month ago
Of course a cell can't be made from a solution of its components. It needs to be made from another cell. But the point is that there is plenty of research/ evidence which shows us that reproducing RNA (which is made from a solution of it's components) can be produced in a lab. each individual component of the cell can't replicate or come together but evolution is the way in which naturally, complex cells are manufactured from replicating RNA.
uru39 1 month ago
All he's done is killed an innocent cell
chattiestspike2 1 month ago
yeah, typical religious fanatic struggling to prove the existence of god... pathetic.
trendyasdabbers 1 month ago 2
title written by ignoramous.
Caravandrums 1 month ago
@Caravandrums Or possibly an ignoranus - someone who is both stupid and an asshole :P
I tend to agree with the title though. The argument presented (which elsewhere is touted as a disproof of abiogenesis) is full of fundamental gaps in understanding - or deliberate misunderstandings - of the principles behind abiogenesis.
TheMonk72 1 month ago
HEY! Don't be poking innocent cells you ignoramus!
harkinhank 1 month ago
If you put a bunch of wires, transistors, and silicone into a plastic bag, filled the bag with solder, then shook the bag up, you probably wouldnt get an intel dual core processor.
GET F-IN REAL
luzzo422 1 month ago
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@luzzo422 Yeah you'll just get an AMD
TheScienceFoundation 1 month ago
at 0:07 , light years = distance unit and not time unit !
mideastatheist 1 month ago 28
@mideastatheist it is both
TheGhill1000 1 month ago
Actually, scientist HAVE created specimens that behave like cells. Although they are not actually living, they can do things such as divide and reproduce.
goldendragonchild 1 month ago
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@goldendragonchild "Although they are not actually living, they can do things such as divide and reproduce." How do we determine then that they were not alive? Did they have a metabolic nutrient/waste process? If they can metabolize and they can reproduce, then that satisfies the two most basic features of "life" right there :)
TheMonk72 1 month ago
Like 7 out of 10 creationists, he either has a southern accent or is trying to hold back one to sound educated.
NorthCitySider 1 month ago
right from the start he uses 'light years' as a measure of time instead of distance shows he doesn't know what he is talking about, ......and it goes downhill from there
nocluedan 1 month ago 35
@nocluedan actually the use of "light years" isn't a reference to time he's just saying going from the experiment to "making life" is a really, really long jump in science. It's just used to express a large distance.
MRTUBEYOUWATCHER 1 month ago
@MRTUBEYOUWATCHER anybody with basic skills can create life in a lab, My sister is a research biologist who has patents on life forms she created that will someday be used to cure cancer
nocluedan 1 month ago
@nocluedan A lot of people use the slang "off by a mile" even though a mile is a distance. Like if you answer a question wrong, people say you're off by a mile even though it's not an actual distance you're talking about. Typical fucking atheist...smarter than everyone else.
YesYou123333 1 month ago
@YesYou123333 ooh potty mouth. are you a typical theist because you can't string a sentence together without swearing?
blueray1969 1 month ago
@blueray1969 Oh BOO-the-fucking-HOO. Go back to reading your evolution brainwashing shit.
YesYou123333 1 month ago
@YesYou123333 and you are such a prime example of what god had in mind........he does not have the integrity to pass himself off as a scientist, he doesn;t know what he is talking about, and nor do you Oh and I wont debate with creationists anymore because there is no debate, genesis was a folk tale for sheep herders
nocluedan 1 month ago
@nocluedan omg you are retard light years are used as a measure of a distance
SuperZwinky10 4 weeks ago
@nocluedan I know what you are saying, but sometimes light years is used as an expression. Still stupid, I know, but it is used like that.
daberko120ch 3 weeks ago
You forgot to wait 4 billion years. :P
GDop26 1 month ago
@GDop26 ... and also have thousands of other things happen. The experiment only proved how ONE particular event in the chain was possible, perhaps inevitable. But to pin down the exact chain of events, that is much, much harder.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
"YOU CAN'T KILL A CELL AND MAKE IT ALIVE HUR DUUUUUR"
Oh my fucking god, where to begin...
TheCircusReject 1 month ago
@TheCircusReject That means that Jesus could not have been resurrected => God doesn't exist
NNOTM 1 month ago
He said light years away as a time expression! Holy shit
tiagow95 1 month ago
@tiagow95 I think he means that they're still a long distance away from making a living cell ("they're still miles away from...).
Of course, our ability to make a living cell does not mean that living cells cannot happen (and the earliest cells probably would not even fit today's definition of life). We can't make stars, either, but they're still forming naturally.
DeadFishFactory 1 month ago
@DeadFishFactory Stars are not alive though!
punksachoo 1 month ago
He quoted "Humpty Dumpty"?
MadHighway 1 month ago
he used light years as a unit of time... lol, nice one.
data3 1 month ago
So...what your'e saying is...you can't put a living cell in a test tube, poke a hole in it (essentially kill it), and bring it back to life again....brilliant. You've earned a Banana Sticker.
woundedrebel117 1 month ago
That's not ignorant its true.
mrleroyjenkins11 1 month ago
pretty sure my mum and dad made a few living cells out of essentially nothing, and if you say that god put the eggs inside my mum, don't tell my dad
olympicadam 1 month ago
Contd. from above:
Double dumb Muslims (ie. donkeys) will and do always say, HOW ABOUT ADAM!
Adam was created, donkey.
Henry Ford is not the 'father' of my 'Ford Montego', dummy!
1400 yrs and Muslims are getting from bad to worse - PAIN IN THE FUCKING NECK. Muslims are born brainless.
When will Muslims learn that - JUSTIFYING BULL SHIT does not change the fucking bullshit.
'Alisina.or g' - tells the truth as is. where is the hate in his website?
Hate is in the Quran 5:64
miladmeah 1 month ago
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miladmeah 1 month ago
@MrGodgive: Arabic Quran is more evil and nasty than the English translation:
وَلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنَٰهَا وَبْنَهَآ ءَايَةً لِّلْعَٰلَمِينَ
WELL! what does that say?
Arabic Quran clealy says Allah is responsible for making Mary pregnant - SO! HAVE CAN NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS CONCEPTION AND BITRTH?
In simple logic Jesus is son of the one who made Mary pregnant.
HOW DUMB CAN MUSLIMS BE?
Also Quran 3:55 jesus was raised, SHIT & PISS into heaven
miladmeah 1 month ago
Muslims say the Quran is preserved on a tablet in heaven Q86:21/2
So, One error is enough to proof that the whole book is a hoax
Q 2:106, We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. So, WAS THAT TABLET UP DATED by Allah ALL THE TIME when Muhammad was alive?
Where in Quran does it say, 23 yrs of revelations will end after the sudden poisoned death of Muhammad?
Q 18:86 Allah spoke to Greek, Alexander the Great, in Arabic?
So, WHY ALLAH NOT SPEAK TO HIS LAST PROPHET?
Is Quran of Muhammad?
miladmeah 1 month ago
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MrGodgive 1 month ago
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@miladmeah Do you know if you want the real truth about Qur'an you must read it on Arabic.
MrGodgive 1 month ago
It's like trying to out your insides outside and swallow them into the right order.
legomasterchiefEvan 1 month ago
You cant pop a molecule with a needle , sterile or not....
UrbanProphecyMedia 1 month ago
Wow, what a moron. I can't even begin to address the flaws in this argument.
gragra1113 1 month ago 2
@electronicjordy97 "This would mean that any god or goddess imaginable, even those unimaginable, must exist" Not true. I said that everything that is POSSIBLE must exist; not everything you can imagine.
Quakeboy02 1 month ago
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Even imagining something makes it exist, because if you didnt k=have the existing idea in your head, you wouldnt have an idea at all, so you wouldnt be discussing that subject.
123LFCNICK 1 month ago
@123LFCNICK So if I imagined a giant mole-rat that ate "God" would you be satisfied that there is no "God"? That's just preposterous.
Quakeboy02 1 month ago
@Quakeboy02 That doesnt follow what ive said at all, i think you are not understanding this properly, God exists, there is no question of that because humans have an idea of god, therefore He must exist (in the mind at least) what you should be discussing is if god is in the real world or not? And in answer to your question, no, because humans would still have an idea of God, so in the mind he'd still exist, even if in reality he wouldnt.
123LFCNICK 1 month ago
@123LFCNICK You cannot use "I can think of god" to indicate that god exists, only that a CONCEPT of god exists. The concept is not the thing. I can imagine all sorts of random weirdness, that does not mean it exists.
TheMonk72 1 month ago
@TheMonk72 It does, because it exists in your mind, it doesnt mean it exists in this world, but in a possible world it has the potential to exist. Or so my philosophy teacher says
123LFCNICK 1 month ago
@123LFCNICK The concept is not the thing. A concept can exist for a thing that does not exist. In fact concepts can exist for things that CANNOT exist. Simply having a concept of something does not give that something any form of existence.
Show this to your Philosophy teacher and see what he says.
TheMonk72 1 month ago
RNA world is a long long long ting bro
Teghead 1 month ago
LOL
Teghead 1 month ago
He's not talking about creating a living cell; he's talking about bringing back the dead! =P
PinkPsych00 1 month ago
@PinkPsych00 Cells aren't really like that though, they're just a combination of materials in a specific order, so it can be argued that the ingredients in the proper setting can turn into a cell. Its basically like cloning. Anyway it doesn't matter because a cell is too complex to have been the first step
deluxeaction 1 month ago
LMFAO, are you serious?
BrokenClocks08 1 month ago
Who said the first replicators were living cells?
How can grown men be so ignorant?
nsugathadasa 1 month ago 28
@nsugathadasa good point, but what were they?
deluxeaction 1 month ago
@nsugathadasa Who says replicators constitute as life?
Antilli 1 month ago
@Antilli They do not have to. Please read some books on evolution.
nsugathadasa 1 month ago
@nsugathadasa I thought evolution was separate from abiogenesis... Once again people have double standards...
Antilli 1 month ago
@Antilli The line between living and non-living is not a sharp line. Forget about living and non living and forget about abiogenesis. First you need a molecule that can replicate differentially. Then Natural selection takes over from there and evolution starts.
nsugathadasa 1 month ago
@nsugathadasa Forget about abiogenesis and then use an aspect of abiogenesis to explain everything..?? Sorry but you can't have it both ways.
Antilli 1 month ago
@Antilli Abiogenesis is the process whereby life develops from non-life. Evolution is what happens afterwards.
TheMonk72 1 month ago
@TheMonk72 Define life please.
nsugathadasa 1 month ago
@nsugathadasa I define life as anything which has the ability to both metabolize and reproduce. There are some current types of "life" that do not necessarily meet the criteria of this definition independently, such as virii. While a virus contains DNA that encodes its form and function, it requires an infected host cell to perform metabolic functions.
TheMonk72 1 month ago