i dont understand... i sing high notes with my head voice without problem... but when i try to sing like this my voice turns down... if you understand... PLEASE HELP
Right idea, but you have to make sure that the air is driving it, otherwise you are still forcing the cords with too much muscle tension (watch your throat to see if it's relaxed) and basically screaming. The vocal cords fully connect on a scream too, but it is not a healthy sound for them to make regularly.
hi my names sarinity and im a young teen and i have been singing almost my whole life and if anybody could give me tips or even tell me things i need to do to help my singing pleaseee!!!!! TELL MEE!!!!!!!! ......& thank you verry much
Just be careful here. I wouldn't ever ask singers to work a bigger sound without standing up and setting up the body so that the vocal mechanism is properly supported.
how did she do that?!?! i usually end up moving back and forth between the softer and the 'stronger' side......how exactly do you use your vocal cords to be able to do that???
Does the mix sound better the stronger your head voice is? I am practising my head voice lots at the moment in the hope that it will make my mix stronger.
@thevinternet The head voice is one of 3 components that make up the mix, the other two being chest voice and that pharyngeal. So yes head voice will make your mix stronger, but don't neglect the other 2.
@LeeJayBird21 Ah that's very helpful, thank you! What is the 'pharyngeal' please? I feel the vibrations in my face/mask and in my chest when I'm in my mix, just not sure about the 'pharyngeal' part.
@TedEdFred21 Should start getting used to practicing with people around. It gives you more time to practice. I do singing and screaming. i started screaming while my parents where away but when i started singing i was already used to sounding like an idiot with them home.
I can hit a high G but i wanna go higher like emmy rossum (a.k.a Christine Daa) did at the end of the song phantom of the opera do u have any execrises i can do to get my vocal range that high..hope you reply please and thank u(:
Its interesting to see when the "oo" vowel began to crescendo the vowel modified and airflow reduced. If she found the space in that small"oo" vowel but opened the throat and jaw then you would have heard a big sound and most of all vowel integrity!
she sucks, people should be very cautious of taking voice lessons or advice from people that are pop/rock oriented singers, most of them dont know much about real vocal technique or safety, study classical voice first/instead.
@Captainblimp14 I was too, but there was a moment where I looked at her lips. Then I realized I had strayed from what is good, and started to focus again.
@rabbits4ever1 it's when you sing with your throat. chest voice is when you sing with your stomach, like giving 'pressure' to your stomach and singing with your natural talking tone.
Dude, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I am not trying to sing for a career but I'm trying to sing this song that has paowa in it and when I tried this, I felt like a new power was being born in me and I think I 'll be able to sing the powerful parts of this song with full paowa soon!
For those of you who don't get it, the way I did it was I sang the first syllable the way I normally do, then try to kinda shout it and it works!
@dragonflamer103 go google it. not to be rude, but when you have more background, these vids make a ton more sense. head voice is like when you try to sing high pitched but within your range whereas falsetto is just letting the breath and sound out of your throat without any diaphragmatic push (notice i said push not strain). again google it and dont quote me
@dragonflamer103 go google it. not to be rude, but when you have more background, these vids make a ton more sense. head voice is like when you try to sing high pitched but within your range whereas falsetto is just letting the breath out of your throat without any diaphragmatic push (notice i said push not strain). again google it and dont quote me
I'm a real lover of music, and my desire of learn how to sing came from wanting to sing along my favourite metal songs.
I want to learn to sing and I know I did evolve in those 3 years I've being in a choir and singing stuff at home, but finding those videos today made me realize how I was doing many things in the wrong way.
I neglected my head voice thinking it was falsetto. Thank god I found it on time to correct.
BTW, I'm the only who one loves how her high note sounds?
I like your advice...but where can I actually see/hear you sing a song live so I know how well you can sing yourself instead of just these small vocal exercises?
@shortee0010 it's easy! try to say "oh boy!!" like Mickey Mouse. Or as if you were afraid of a dog: "Goooood boy".
It should sound really high and kinda goofy, but you'll notice you're not leaking air. Then you have to work with that sound, and work on giving it some chest power like the girl in this video did 8)
for god's sake ...how can four people dislike this...
i mean, i know everyone's entittled to like whatever they want and every taste is different, but this!... this is amazing... not just the techniques but all the content... knowledge that helps you understand how your voice works and how it will work if you work on it hahaahahh :D
oh my goodness!!!! this helped so freakin much i actually got the notes i couldnt ever get if u guys have ever heard the song decode by paramore i can now sing all the way up on those notes!!!
you gotta start thinking about resonance its called the mask its in the areas around the back of you're nose
if you try to hoot like an owl with pursed lips it helps you then once you feel the deep resonance try breathing a little jore out through youre nose try using Ng its basically a hum with youre mouth open, once you try this then go back to the video, might be a bit different for you
@xLOSTxINxSTEREOx3 yes - don't listen to her demonstration. Her on set when she demos is very brittle, meaning the air wasn't flowing, and her release has big puff of air, meaning the air was being held back. To add volume to your head voice, focus on a good clean on set where the breath and sound start simultaneously...use an "s" or a small "h" before your exercise to help balance your air. Focus on the air from your lower abs and really talking the lyrics in your head voice.
ok i have the singing success program and mastering mix, and i'm a guy a tenor so i was like screw them i'm not singing in that gay ass head voice to reach those powerfull choruses like 30 seconds to mars and wallaaa she answered all my question i will be working on this thanks
...whats a head voice?
leopar107 2 days ago
LOL SHE MAKES IT LOOK SO EASY loL ITS MUCH HARDER REALLY HARD BUT GOOD TIP :)
MusicFreak4God 4 days ago
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Am i the only one that is watching her titts?
Timeforamassacre 1 week ago
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i dont understand... i sing high notes with my head voice without problem... but when i try to sing like this my voice turns down... if you understand... PLEASE HELP
ONixaO 2 weeks ago
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ONixaO 2 weeks ago
When I do this I sound like Bee gees...I don't like this... what I do wrong?
Rotceev 2 weeks ago
THANK YOU
BLESSINGS FROM ISRAEL
oryehudi 3 weeks ago
Guaattamalla? Confusing sing with your head I sing with my mouth
Bublezlove619 1 month ago
@deadlybug don't say that, you can do anything you dream of if you put your mind to it, just try harder to get there.
DonRaylucky131 1 month ago
Right idea, but you have to make sure that the air is driving it, otherwise you are still forcing the cords with too much muscle tension (watch your throat to see if it's relaxed) and basically screaming. The vocal cords fully connect on a scream too, but it is not a healthy sound for them to make regularly.
mepfei 1 month ago
hi my names sarinity and im a young teen and i have been singing almost my whole life and if anybody could give me tips or even tell me things i need to do to help my singing pleaseee!!!!! TELL MEE!!!!!!!! ......& thank you verry much
sarinityklug 1 month ago
Just be careful here. I wouldn't ever ask singers to work a bigger sound without standing up and setting up the body so that the vocal mechanism is properly supported.
Sallyzbee 1 month ago
A guy can't sing high notes without their head voice. This must be some feminist video.
bonestorm99 1 month ago
so i can belt higher notes and sing lower notes with power but there is that middle higher section that i cant use this technique with. any tips?
itachimercenary15 1 month ago
i like the singing e in the begging
ashonaswagg 1 month ago
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sorry but she has to project her voice in another way really. It has to be more fresh.
CESAR94837 1 month ago
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CESAR94837 1 month ago
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa q es esooooooooooo :O sorry pero es la verdad :(
CESAR94837 1 month ago
Kellin Quinn brought me here .__.
xXDanni62Xx 1 month ago
How do you use your chords the right way?
ProudToBeUnPerfect 1 month ago
I found this really interested :) Thanks!
Lithawen 1 month ago
thanks thanks thanks :) this works... your great!!
Lenabluemchen 1 month ago
how do you know when you feel the connection
sing1dance 2 months ago
what is a head voice? :P
TheTophBB 2 months ago
:/ I don't get this, how you change from a head voice into the more powerful one...
AyuXChiku 2 months ago
:( It doesn't work for me if i do a head voice then i can only stay in a head voice if I do a belt I can only stay in a belt :L
rebeccalafferty 2 months ago
I'm afraid people will hear me and be like wtf?
SunnyandSky 3 months ago 15
omg i will try this but i need to practice
Besiniki1 3 months ago
you are attractive
DennySayDenny 3 months ago 7
This is a great tip. I was always confused about how to approach the "mixed" voice.
EvilHippy38 3 months ago 4
omg, sounds really like a child. and by the way, most people will cheer for everything...
Divadsalkin 3 months ago
#1. are you popping popcorn with your onset?
#2. It's hard to take someone seriously, who speaks with so much vocal fry.
flamencoandy 3 months ago 4
wonder how you sound like when you have sex...
CompllexXD 3 months ago
OMG i just tried this and it works
starlynnXOXO 3 months ago 3
Money notes lol.
Craf7y 4 months ago 2
I just tried this about six times but no matter how subtle the note I can't switch out of my head voice!
AllyAlly1620 4 months ago
Whoa. I have to try this.
esoretal 4 months ago
Good singing tips, but I'm really impressed by your beauty! Salute from Brazil.
MrUgasguito 4 months ago
i said a bang bang bangity bang i said a bang bang bangity bang.. all together now!
therealTOTOfan 4 months ago
I've seen like, 7 of you guy's videos. My singing has ALREADY improved 10 fold! I can only imagine how good your REAL lessons are.
MsSunnyMuffins 4 months ago
oh god my dick is huge already
HadesDoomOcculta 4 months ago
That chick is gonna get nailed in a sec just wait
HadesDoomOcculta 4 months ago
I cant take it out of my chest it gets stuck!
simplymeyoo 4 months ago
i always end up sounding like a monkey
llangel96 4 months ago
how did she do that?!?! i usually end up moving back and forth between the softer and the 'stronger' side......how exactly do you use your vocal cords to be able to do that???
aethelwyne03 4 months ago
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aethelwyne03 4 months ago
Great demonstration. Still no idea how the Hell to do it.
aidanivesdavis 4 months ago
hmmm it really helped me to sing run to the hills :O
121soloman1 4 months ago
What is the song at the beginning?
ChildrenOfInfidelity 4 months ago
jason derulo : aaaaaaaaaah :P
bryanman476 4 months ago
I can't follow something like this, she sings atleast an octave higher than me, can't really mimic it lol
xGenjaix 4 months ago
start watching at 1:50 that should help
princesspudtassja 5 months ago in playlist Liked
Why am I watching this, I couldn't hit a right note if my life depended on it.
deadlybug 5 months ago 93
@deadlybug Me either. I know i can't sing, so why am I torturing myself by trying? Oh well.
wforwojtek 5 months ago
Does the mix sound better the stronger your head voice is? I am practising my head voice lots at the moment in the hope that it will make my mix stronger.
thevinternet 5 months ago
@thevinternet The head voice is one of 3 components that make up the mix, the other two being chest voice and that pharyngeal. So yes head voice will make your mix stronger, but don't neglect the other 2.
LeeJayBird21 5 months ago
@LeeJayBird21 Ah that's very helpful, thank you! What is the 'pharyngeal' please? I feel the vibrations in my face/mask and in my chest when I'm in my mix, just not sure about the 'pharyngeal' part.
thevinternet 5 months ago
but it sounds squeaky!!! Don't like!!!
ludymerida 5 months ago
OH MY GOSH THANK YOU. now i need to wait for my parents to leave so i can try this.
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@TedEdFred21 LOL. Are they gone yet?
TOONAMAX 4 months ago
@TedEdFred21 Should start getting used to practicing with people around. It gives you more time to practice. I do singing and screaming. i started screaming while my parents where away but when i started singing i was already used to sounding like an idiot with them home.
DeepTeel 4 months ago
@TedEdFred21 I have to wait until mine leave so I can beat it to this chick.
Shaddix7861 4 months ago
@TedEdFred21 your lucky my parents never leave lol..
Sid5002 4 months ago
@TedEdFred21 OMG I can't sing when my parents are here as well
remboy3000 2 months ago
@TedEdFred21 HAHAHAHAHAH I know exactly how you feel
csfreak51 2 months ago
@TedEdFred21 i thought it was just me who wait until my parents are gone
Alinask84ever16 1 month ago 6
@TedEdFred21 YES IM NOT ALONE! :)
XxJeremyTxX 2 weeks ago 2
her eyebrows are wierd.
iamnotauser93 5 months ago
I can hit a high G but i wanna go higher like emmy rossum (a.k.a Christine Daa) did at the end of the song phantom of the opera do u have any execrises i can do to get my vocal range that high..hope you reply please and thank u(:
BreezyMama000 5 months ago
Its interesting to see when the "oo" vowel began to crescendo the vowel modified and airflow reduced. If she found the space in that small"oo" vowel but opened the throat and jaw then you would have heard a big sound and most of all vowel integrity!
kingcorelli 5 months ago
Simply she has sung an awful high note... please study really.
michelemorassut 5 months ago
would this actually help me to sing to refrein of run to the hills???
121soloman1 5 months ago
@121soloman1
Iron Maiden :)
iamnotauser93 5 months ago
Well, with a name like skitzo....why should we listen to you.
She's just fine as a coach. Learn from everyone you can....
skbnvacaville 5 months ago
she sucks, people should be very cautious of taking voice lessons or advice from people that are pop/rock oriented singers, most of them dont know much about real vocal technique or safety, study classical voice first/instead.
skitzo429 5 months ago
I was lookin at yo tits the hole time
Captainblimp14 6 months ago 3
@Captainblimp14 I was too, but there was a moment where I looked at her lips. Then I realized I had strayed from what is good, and started to focus again.
TrustYourOwnInstinct 4 months ago
It's belting :)
DazedNConfusedXD 6 months ago
@rabbits4ever1 it's when you sing with your throat. chest voice is when you sing with your stomach, like giving 'pressure' to your stomach and singing with your natural talking tone.
rachelblehh3 6 months ago
Great tips!!!! And your beautiful:)
johnnyrange1 6 months ago
so this video isnt about singing while on drugs :(((((( read the title wrong
dangeurs 6 months ago 2
it sounded like you were shouting,is it supposed to sound that way
israel8952 6 months ago
this is not singing..is yelling
dulCISSIMA1 6 months ago
<3 thank you.
musicwiz1000 6 months ago
Ho my God!! you're sing amazing.
houseelmejor 6 months ago
what is a head voice?i'm confused...
rabbits4ever1 6 months ago
I don't get how to add the power to my head voice -.-
WallyVaio 6 months ago
Very useful tip~!!
It totally worked for me!! Thank you!!
yurisaikoro111 6 months ago
If I had a voice lesson by her, I'd have to close my eyes, I couldn't focus otherwise lol
Kelvin702 6 months ago
I. Can't. Do. It. GRRRRRRRR!
MissBlahChick2 6 months ago
Dude, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I am not trying to sing for a career but I'm trying to sing this song that has paowa in it and when I tried this, I felt like a new power was being born in me and I think I 'll be able to sing the powerful parts of this song with full paowa soon!
For those of you who don't get it, the way I did it was I sang the first syllable the way I normally do, then try to kinda shout it and it works!
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@dragonflamer103 go google it. not to be rude, but when you have more background, these vids make a ton more sense. head voice is like when you try to sing high pitched but within your range whereas falsetto is just letting the breath and sound out of your throat without any diaphragmatic push (notice i said push not strain). again google it and dont quote me
MidoriMuse 6 months ago
@dragonflamer103 go google it. not to be rude, but when you have more background, these vids make a ton more sense. head voice is like when you try to sing high pitched but within your range whereas falsetto is just letting the breath out of your throat without any diaphragmatic push (notice i said push not strain). again google it and dont quote me
MidoriMuse 6 months ago
you oughta be my voice teacher i'd admire your beautifull God giving features
Bradalmy2 7 months ago
keep pressing 4 it sounds like she's aying cannabis :)
skx11ful 7 months ago
thank you
nheekchoos 7 months ago
is she a real good singer? good lokin but the tips are not really good for me
ricky6dkhar 7 months ago
I'm a real lover of music, and my desire of learn how to sing came from wanting to sing along my favourite metal songs.
I want to learn to sing and I know I did evolve in those 3 years I've being in a choir and singing stuff at home, but finding those videos today made me realize how I was doing many things in the wrong way.
I neglected my head voice thinking it was falsetto. Thank god I found it on time to correct.
BTW, I'm the only who one loves how her high note sounds?
JohnPrestonZero 7 months ago
I can sing with power and I always could but I try to sing low but I cant. What can I do?
I mean if I sing loud its more in key but if I sing low its not in key!
auburngail26 7 months ago in playlist Vocal Lessons
To everyone that doesn't get it the problem is probably that you're starting in falsetto
Vintexen 7 months ago
Erm... I didn't follow at all. XDD
The explanation was long and rambling then after she did it, I just didn't get what she did.
Sorry, but one of your few videos that didn't really help. :/
SazzieChan 8 months ago
well, u can use that but when ur using it in a sentence its not as easy :/ so wat to do then?
100kathren 8 months ago
"I found it. Because I was using my chords the right way." Um.. Thanks for that..
JTTTTTGGGGG 8 months ago 2
You are a female. Tell me how to sing like Sebastian Bach! Muhahaha!
GuitarArmy95 8 months ago 13
@GuitarArmy95 i though she was a man with boobies
rodrigogier 8 months ago
this is easy to say.. but getting the technique of hitting the high note is really really hard.
RandolfLedesma 8 months ago
2:32 Thats what she said.
Carsonification28 9 months ago 4
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Carsonification28 9 months ago
She's hot
23themagicnumber 9 months ago
i like your power voice! :o
bunnygrl 9 months ago
I like your advice...but where can I actually see/hear you sing a song live so I know how well you can sing yourself instead of just these small vocal exercises?
xxxtttaaa1 9 months ago
jeezz your hair,its soooooo beautiful
sampathkora 9 months ago
oh my goodness <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 i love you <3 <3
oiuyuioiuyuio 9 months ago
when i do it, the chest voice then sounds like i was awfully screaming... any tipps??
Lonleyranger2412 10 months ago
thank you, it was very helpful
olgasandulyak 10 months ago
ah you're so beautiful. <3
lisakilljoyx 10 months ago
Pause at 1:00 and kiss !! LMAO!
naaapster 10 months ago 3
you are such a turn on
evolun 10 months ago
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You will see!!! You will all see!!!!
capitalHIM1 10 months ago
awesome vid. but pause at 1:38 or 1:44 :)
ireallydgoff 11 months ago
2:11 O.O
MusicHeart90 11 months ago
You look and you talk like taylor swift! Awesome! Thank you!
LoveforCarrie 11 months ago
titfuck
Blackwargreymon 11 months ago
omg Shelby i have been puzzling over this for days now and finally i found you!!:)thanks so much!this has solved all my problems:)*
555aish 11 months ago
is belting the same as mixed?
YoungFlipChick 1 year ago
That really sounds like chest voice! Amazing! How do you get it so strong? <3
doddleoddle 1 year ago
Lmao 5 seconds of that E singing
MpBriPlayer8D 1 year ago
love you shelby
eloelo14 1 year ago
this video's amazing!
SurrealMusic88 1 year ago
I can't find my head voice!! :(
shortee0010 1 year ago
@shortee0010 it's easy! try to say "oh boy!!" like Mickey Mouse. Or as if you were afraid of a dog: "Goooood boy".
It should sound really high and kinda goofy, but you'll notice you're not leaking air. Then you have to work with that sound, and work on giving it some chest power like the girl in this video did 8)
SurrealMusic88 1 year ago
@SurrealMusic88 I'm sounding like a girl! Is this good?
shortee0010 1 year ago
@shortee0010 Yup that means you're doing it right! but like this video shows, you can use it to learn important techniques 8)
SurrealMusic88 1 year ago
iam 11 nd i want to be a singer :)
4evaevelyn 1 year ago 6
@4evaevelyn go to my channel maybe its what you're looking for
TheDavetrevor 1 year ago
@4evaevelyn OMG me too <33~ haha shhh O.O christina grimmie inspired me though xD
aSiaNerds 11 months ago
@aSiaNerds ko0 i waanted to b a sinqer since 3 yrz
4evaevelyn 11 months ago
for god's sake ...how can four people dislike this...
i mean, i know everyone's entittled to like whatever they want and every taste is different, but this!... this is amazing... not just the techniques but all the content... knowledge that helps you understand how your voice works and how it will work if you work on it hahaahahh :D
valarangel 1 year ago
Easy to get cool tip thanks xD
masllopes 1 year ago
I'm scared I'm putting too much pressure on my vocal chords. I don't want to ruin them!
Wekissinbreakdowns 1 year ago 2
my voice just isnt a nice voice no matter if its powerful or with vibrato my voice doesnt sound nice :'(
ItsMeRuffles 1 year ago
2 people can explain this better.
awoyoshix 1 year ago
haha this is so horribly explained.
lakshmixshree 1 year ago
when i did the ooooo (head) i got it right to the Waa(mix) my voice was like shaking. hahahahah LOL what happened? :D
shem15418 1 year ago
it worked the first time thanks!! :D
Ronijonascullen 1 year ago
omg after like 10 times i almost got it..but i sound bad..haha
sohotjenny 1 year ago
you gotta hit it hard from the top!
Thats what she said ; )
o0kahlil0o 1 year ago
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You are really gorgeous
Sharkze 1 year ago
oh my goodness!!!! this helped so freakin much i actually got the notes i couldnt ever get if u guys have ever heard the song decode by paramore i can now sing all the way up on those notes!!!
teeheeyouknowme 1 year ago
@teeheeyouknowme me too! :P
rykahere 1 year ago
I had to watch this video 4 times to get it the first 3 times couldn't stop looking at her rack...true story
okitsnotok 1 year ago
does she go over to the stomach voice or does she stay in head voice?
payboygirl4u 1 year ago
your preeeeeety
chilidog1001 1 year ago 121
Omg this really helped!!
JBieberBabeeeee 1 year ago
IT WORKED! thanks :)
Cathyycakes 1 year ago
i dont really understand how to do this...any tips/help/advice?
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@xLOSTxINxSTEREOx3 maybe youll answer ur question on my channel. click my name. :)
TheDavetrevor 1 year ago
@xLOSTxINxSTEREOx3
you gotta start thinking about resonance its called the mask its in the areas around the back of you're nose
if you try to hoot like an owl with pursed lips it helps you then once you feel the deep resonance try breathing a little jore out through youre nose try using Ng its basically a hum with youre mouth open, once you try this then go back to the video, might be a bit different for you
lewe196 6 months ago
@xLOSTxINxSTEREOx3 yes - don't listen to her demonstration. Her on set when she demos is very brittle, meaning the air wasn't flowing, and her release has big puff of air, meaning the air was being held back. To add volume to your head voice, focus on a good clean on set where the breath and sound start simultaneously...use an "s" or a small "h" before your exercise to help balance your air. Focus on the air from your lower abs and really talking the lyrics in your head voice.
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xLOSTxINxSTEREOx3 1 year ago
it sounded like a head voice to me..
injune5 1 year ago
Excellent advise. The Messa Di Voce exercise is best for this.
VIDEOHEREBOB 1 year ago
you are very prety
fawad1991 1 year ago
WHOOOAHH!! I tried it and it was really helpful!!
buzzkill2009 1 year ago
You have to mix the head register with the breast voice...
DizZeaZ 1 year ago
ok i have the singing success program and mastering mix, and i'm a guy a tenor so i was like screw them i'm not singing in that gay ass head voice to reach those powerfull choruses like 30 seconds to mars and wallaaa she answered all my question i will be working on this thanks
IDORM 1 year ago
This is a great technique. I'm working with my vocal coach on this and it's definitely helped!
silhouettesofshadows 1 year ago
tHAT Actually Helped Me...and Im A Guy
(She's a pretty good teacher)...Thankz
YaBoiAnthonyLooper 1 year ago
She's so helpful!!!!
wierde2003 1 year ago
The mix is a great resource! Nut I know its hard to identify the feeling for most people. You are great at teaching, not to mention singing.
AngelTeranMusic 1 year ago
this is great!!! I'm a guy and it helped me too!
iv4nl1v3z 1 year ago
love brett and singing success but she's a bit...
nichens 1 year ago
thumbs up for shelby . She is great and her vocal tips are very easy and way effective
mitchellz23 1 year ago 3
i am a boy and i was wondrering can i hava more power in mix voice is i mix my whistle register too ?
themrkurosawa 1 year ago