Dillinger escape plan isnt just mathcore they don't try be a genre they just try to experiment. All bands that are famous because of the music they make, not of because the way they look, are the ones that break the genre. No one wants to sign a band that just sounds like a someone else because no one will want to listen to them.
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yes metalcore, mathcore, and deathcore are all emo. they all have that whiny voice at certain parts of their songs, which is extremly gay. that is why all the scene kids love those bands
ok then, very nice point mr. obsessive compulsive disorder. have fun over-thinking everything I say and crying about it, at least I can be happy knowing you are depressed and i am not LOL
Haha, I'm just saying, it's pretty funny how you're still stuck in the days of judging genres and stereotypes. That's for middle school kids trying to fit in with someone.
ok then thank you for explaining that to me i dont care. scene kids are annoying trendy sellouts. I don't give a shit if you think people don't stereotype any more, they always will. Thats not even what i'm about, i smoke batts witha good few scene kids. But that doesn't change the fact that emo is a stupid trend. Wearing girl pants is homosexual. Pink elephants aren't cool. You don't believe me now because you are scene but eventually you will agree with me as do all ex-scene kids. shitty trend
Hahaha, alright. You put up a particularly boring argument, anyway. I think everyone knows who looks like the douche here, attacking musical demographics.
I'm not argueing, theres no fucking arguement to it. I'm saying its not cool. I'm not argueing the music. You think i care if scene kids think im a douche? LOL. Oh and by the way, all "hardcore" emo bands play the exact same riffs and all sound extremly similar and over-use breakdowns. Not to mention scene kids actually talk about the hair styles of their favorite bands, which is also extremly gay haha
I think the underlying point here (that you've failed to get) has been, "shut up, no one cares what you think either, go be brutal in the comments for brutal videos."
You don't understand, i'm messing with your OCD because I know you NEED to get the last word and I just keep replying to piss you off, it works well on scene kids :D
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It has to do with dillinger because they are mathcore, which is a form of emo. You can argue all you want that the quality of the music is the same, but all you emos don't understand that the reason we make fun of your music is because its gay, the people in the bands wear girl pants and the band names are almost always ironic, which is fucking stupid.
Not like black metal or grindcore, which is of course, the height of music as we know it.
Who is we? What specifically is gay? What is ironic about their name? Which one of the members of this band is wearing girl's pants? Where does "mathcore" fit in on the hierarchy of "emo"? Does a name define a band's sound? Is irony a bad literary device, or one you could never wrap your mind around?
Don't forget, br00tal music is a form of pop now, and is very much a "scene".
You are an idiot, br00tal is deathcore. I don't listen to deathcore, deathcore is scene music. Brutal is death metal, grindcore, etc. Argue all you want, that this specific band doesn't wear girl pants, but the fact is, its trendy. You can't argue that. We think you ways of life are gay, you all wear girl pants to fit in. I've talked to alot of ex-emos and they all say thats why they were emo. Emo music is gay because it promotes being a pussy. Its all ironic immature bullshit..
Where does mathcore fit in the hierarchy of emo? Ok well, every faggot scene kid I know listens to them. That about sums up why I think they are scene. Does a name define a bands sounds? No, I am not argueing the fucking sound. For fuck sakes, emos can't get that in their heads. We make fun of you because your style and trend is lame, get it? Not cool. There you go, no argueing how is it gay. Its plain not cool. The opposite of cool. Do you understand? No? Thats what I thought
God dammit, one more thing. I just can't get ever how you said "br00tal music is a form of pop now". br00tal music is the exact scene bullshit i'm talking about. "br00tal" music is when faggot emo twightlight fans decide they wanto get together and make a humorous deathcore band, with an ironic name, trying to be funny, because their lame my chemical romance shit got too boring, and they decided to start listening to metal. My music isn't a form of pop, yours is.
Mathcore is really just metalcore with complicated and technical time signatures. So its really doesnt come from emo. Emo is an 80s offshoot of hardcore punk. So don't call any bands after 2002 emo becuase there not. A band's fans dont define their genre.
Dude metalcore IS emo. every emo kid i know listens to metalcore, its scene kid music. all the metalcore bands wear girl pants and so do their fans. no i dont care if you can come up with examples of bands who arent emo, metalcore is an emo genre period. the scene kids all listen to it. its like saying deathcore isnt emo. it is. also my point isnt that genres effect bands its that the genre/scene/style i think is extremly stupid and gay. i dont approve of it so im insulting it.
Im not talking about the doucebag "emo" subculture. Im talking about the genre. Theres a huge difference "emo" kids these days dont listen to the emo genre they listen to deathcore and that kind of shit.
Sunny day real estate and jawbreaker are some. Jaw breakers more on the hardcore side and sunny day is more on the alternative side. There both real emo bands regardless.
i was worried when i saw chris quit last summer but now there's no doubt that even though their demeanors are different, Gil can definitely hang.
that being said though, i do also think that this particular song is a Chris Pennie trademark and i don't think anyone else, even Gil, can accurately play it as such
anything that ends with core (besides hardcore, not emotive hardcore, i mean actual fucking hardcore, go it alone, spazz, infest, crom, man is the bastard, oh yeah also grindcore) sucks. Period. Emos have to have a fucking genre of theirs for every genre, emotive hardcore, deathcore, metalcore, it is all crap.
just because other people like to label bands with stupid sub-genres doesn't define the quality of each and every bands music.. If you really think you can tell if a band is good or not just by what others label them by than you truly are a fucking moron.
I just listened to Coheed for the first time, and boy they're really shit. I saw this video with chris soloing, and the Coheed fans leave comments like "he sucks!""Josh is way better" like, what the fuck!? they have no fucking idea what chris is doing, no knowledge of music AT ALL!
going from a talented rockband to a crapband is bad enough, fans from the crapband not appreciating him is a real nightmare... wake up chris!! your wasting your talent and time!!
@faultandfracture maybe Chris just wanted to be reconized so he joined up with C&C. I dont care for them at all. i respect Chris left but yes hes wasting his talent
@faultandfracture Well, just think of the money Chris is probably making with Coheed now. I bet it's a lot more than with Dillinger. Honest to God, I don't blame him at all for his decision. Plus, he's getting more recognition with Coheed. Probably a pretty good decision for himself.
yeah, gotta agree with theregoesmyhero. i know this song like the back of my hand, and he's doin just fine. plus, who cares if he wrote it or not, what did you expect them to do, just play all new stuff and none of the old?
No, I'm sorry, because Gil is playing it pretty much exactly the same as Chris. And yes, that is coming from somebody who can sit down behind a drumset and play the song start to finish.
I just wish people would get over this Chris+Coheed thing. I was sad too, and Chris has been one of my biggest influences, and always will be, but after hearing the new CD, the Coheed thing doesn't even matter.
jeff can speak for himself... but i have seen him play in other bands many times... and he has always been totally into the music he plays. his guitar work is incredible. i hope they write an album WITH him in the near future...
dudes. gil kicks ass. so does chris. gil will be just as good if not better, i am telling you! don't stop listening to DEP just because chris is gone!
gil makes drumming looks so easy! chris looked like hew as really challenged when playing, and damn, he can play the shit out of drums, but gil looks like this is just a brush of the shoulder compared to what he is truly capable of
hmm well i guess we cant say who's better at the end of the day, i bet they are both equally as talented, gil just looks more relaxed, they're both exploding with talent thats for sure! :D
gil fucking shreds. i like chris a lot, but gil is just as much a killer drummer. little bit of a different style, but still awesome. too bad about the quality here.
who cares what genre it is, it kicks ass and thats all that matters
snarf4president 1 year ago
almost like underwater version of panasonic youth
CaveSoundMeister 1 year ago
Lol the quality distorts the already distorted music, the result's real funny lol
CaveSoundMeister 1 year ago
Dillinger escape plan isnt just mathcore they don't try be a genre they just try to experiment. All bands that are famous because of the music they make, not of because the way they look, are the ones that break the genre. No one wants to sign a band that just sounds like a someone else because no one will want to listen to them.
THESPHERIC 2 years ago
so many lulz, so little time.
furryshoes 2 years ago
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yes metalcore, mathcore, and deathcore are all emo. they all have that whiny voice at certain parts of their songs, which is extremly gay. that is why all the scene kids love those bands
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
You're so cool.
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago
hahahaha i made the emo kid cry
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Your tough guy facade is pretty laughable.
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago 3
ok then, very nice point mr. obsessive compulsive disorder. have fun over-thinking everything I say and crying about it, at least I can be happy knowing you are depressed and i am not LOL
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Haha, I'm just saying, it's pretty funny how you're still stuck in the days of judging genres and stereotypes. That's for middle school kids trying to fit in with someone.
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago
ok then thank you for explaining that to me i dont care. scene kids are annoying trendy sellouts. I don't give a shit if you think people don't stereotype any more, they always will. Thats not even what i'm about, i smoke batts witha good few scene kids. But that doesn't change the fact that emo is a stupid trend. Wearing girl pants is homosexual. Pink elephants aren't cool. You don't believe me now because you are scene but eventually you will agree with me as do all ex-scene kids. shitty trend
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Hahahahahahaha. I was a scene kid a couple years ago and grew out of it on my own. People like you aren't any better, tough kid.
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago
why don't you go style your hair like your favorite band? nobody cares about your crying LOL
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Hahaha, alright. You put up a particularly boring argument, anyway. I think everyone knows who looks like the douche here, attacking musical demographics.
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago
I'm not argueing, theres no fucking arguement to it. I'm saying its not cool. I'm not argueing the music. You think i care if scene kids think im a douche? LOL. Oh and by the way, all "hardcore" emo bands play the exact same riffs and all sound extremly similar and over-use breakdowns. Not to mention scene kids actually talk about the hair styles of their favorite bands, which is also extremly gay haha
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
*sigh*
I think the underlying point here (that you've failed to get) has been, "shut up, no one cares what you think either, go be brutal in the comments for brutal videos."
[end e-fight]
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago
You don't understand, i'm messing with your OCD because I know you NEED to get the last word and I just keep replying to piss you off, it works well on scene kids :D
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
*bigger sigh*
Mmkay. I'ma go smoke a bowl then.
StringsofMartyr 2 years ago
Pink elephants...? And why the fuck is this e-fight on a dillinger video? They dont have anything to do with emo or any subcultures or trends.
MonotremeKing 2 years ago
Mathcore and emo shouldn't be in the same sentence.
CraftingaDillinger 2 years ago 2
kemosabii. wtf does that have to do with dillinger?! btw, you should talk kEMOsabii hahaha
aldousband0000000000 3 years ago
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It has to do with dillinger because they are mathcore, which is a form of emo. You can argue all you want that the quality of the music is the same, but all you emos don't understand that the reason we make fun of your music is because its gay, the people in the bands wear girl pants and the band names are almost always ironic, which is fucking stupid.
BrutalNewfie666 3 years ago
Not like black metal or grindcore, which is of course, the height of music as we know it.
Who is we? What specifically is gay? What is ironic about their name? Which one of the members of this band is wearing girl's pants? Where does "mathcore" fit in on the hierarchy of "emo"? Does a name define a band's sound? Is irony a bad literary device, or one you could never wrap your mind around?
Don't forget, br00tal music is a form of pop now, and is very much a "scene".
AnalyticalAvenger 2 years ago
You are an idiot, br00tal is deathcore. I don't listen to deathcore, deathcore is scene music. Brutal is death metal, grindcore, etc. Argue all you want, that this specific band doesn't wear girl pants, but the fact is, its trendy. You can't argue that. We think you ways of life are gay, you all wear girl pants to fit in. I've talked to alot of ex-emos and they all say thats why they were emo. Emo music is gay because it promotes being a pussy. Its all ironic immature bullshit..
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Where does mathcore fit in the hierarchy of emo? Ok well, every faggot scene kid I know listens to them. That about sums up why I think they are scene. Does a name define a bands sounds? No, I am not argueing the fucking sound. For fuck sakes, emos can't get that in their heads. We make fun of you because your style and trend is lame, get it? Not cool. There you go, no argueing how is it gay. Its plain not cool. The opposite of cool. Do you understand? No? Thats what I thought
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
And no scene kids listen to mathcore that i am aware of.... its to complex for there small minds.
MonotremeKing 2 years ago 2
God dammit, one more thing. I just can't get ever how you said "br00tal music is a form of pop now". br00tal music is the exact scene bullshit i'm talking about. "br00tal" music is when faggot emo twightlight fans decide they wanto get together and make a humorous deathcore band, with an ironic name, trying to be funny, because their lame my chemical romance shit got too boring, and they decided to start listening to metal. My music isn't a form of pop, yours is.
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Mathcore is really just metalcore with complicated and technical time signatures. So its really doesnt come from emo. Emo is an 80s offshoot of hardcore punk. So don't call any bands after 2002 emo becuase there not. A band's fans dont define their genre.
MonotremeKing 2 years ago
Dude metalcore IS emo. every emo kid i know listens to metalcore, its scene kid music. all the metalcore bands wear girl pants and so do their fans. no i dont care if you can come up with examples of bands who arent emo, metalcore is an emo genre period. the scene kids all listen to it. its like saying deathcore isnt emo. it is. also my point isnt that genres effect bands its that the genre/scene/style i think is extremly stupid and gay. i dont approve of it so im insulting it.
BrutalNewfie666 2 years ago
Im not talking about the doucebag "emo" subculture. Im talking about the genre. Theres a huge difference "emo" kids these days dont listen to the emo genre they listen to deathcore and that kind of shit.
MonotremeKing 2 years ago
Whats some emo bands ? Guaranteed you don't know what real emo is ? You know... the hardcore emo. Not this scene shit today like Fall Out Boy.
nchiplin 2 years ago
Sunny day real estate and jawbreaker are some. Jaw breakers more on the hardcore side and sunny day is more on the alternative side. There both real emo bands regardless.
MonotremeKing 2 years ago
Check out Texas Is The Reason, The Promise Ring, Capn Jazz and Owls. Your views should change !
nchiplin 2 years ago
i was worried when i saw chris quit last summer but now there's no doubt that even though their demeanors are different, Gil can definitely hang.
that being said though, i do also think that this particular song is a Chris Pennie trademark and i don't think anyone else, even Gil, can accurately play it as such
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anything that ends with core (besides hardcore, not emotive hardcore, i mean actual fucking hardcore, go it alone, spazz, infest, crom, man is the bastard, oh yeah also grindcore) sucks. Period. Emos have to have a fucking genre of theirs for every genre, emotive hardcore, deathcore, metalcore, it is all crap.
kemosabii 4 years ago
just because other people like to label bands with stupid sub-genres doesn't define the quality of each and every bands music.. If you really think you can tell if a band is good or not just by what others label them by than you truly are a fucking moron.
Hobble 3 years ago 7
i hate it when people call bands emo because they scream and shout and are heavier and wierder than shity nickelback.
mohercore 3 years ago
Kemo, you are one ignorant mother fucker.
ErikEdge 3 years ago
kemosabii, why isn't your name kemossabiicore then? Because you seem to be talking crap :D.
FaithDead 3 years ago
I just listened to Coheed for the first time, and boy they're really shit. I saw this video with chris soloing, and the Coheed fans leave comments like "he sucks!""Josh is way better" like, what the fuck!? they have no fucking idea what chris is doing, no knowledge of music AT ALL!
going from a talented rockband to a crapband is bad enough, fans from the crapband not appreciating him is a real nightmare... wake up chris!! your wasting your talent and time!!
faultandfracture 4 years ago 12
Theres no way id go from dillinger escape plan to coheed and cambria even if he gets a load more money now, the music is still shit.
themartinmanisdead 3 years ago
@faultandfracture maybe Chris just wanted to be reconized so he joined up with C&C. I dont care for them at all. i respect Chris left but yes hes wasting his talent
ComfortablyNumbAgain 1 year ago
@faultandfracture Well, just think of the money Chris is probably making with Coheed now. I bet it's a lot more than with Dillinger. Honest to God, I don't blame him at all for his decision. Plus, he's getting more recognition with Coheed. Probably a pretty good decision for himself.
guitardude348 1 year ago
@faultandfracture Josh is amazing.
mjrupps 8 months ago
I quite like this new drummer... but can he play godly like calculating infinity beats?
dlmyers17 4 years ago
Gil can do it, but Chris is better.
drummergod25 4 years ago 2
yeah, gotta agree with theregoesmyhero. i know this song like the back of my hand, and he's doin just fine. plus, who cares if he wrote it or not, what did you expect them to do, just play all new stuff and none of the old?
trish48161 4 years ago
GO GIL GO!
Jabberwockee 4 years ago
No, I'm sorry, because Gil is playing it pretty much exactly the same as Chris. And yes, that is coming from somebody who can sit down behind a drumset and play the song start to finish.
I just wish people would get over this Chris+Coheed thing. I was sad too, and Chris has been one of my biggest influences, and always will be, but after hearing the new CD, the Coheed thing doesn't even matter.
thergoesmyhero 4 years ago
sorry but at 54 seconds I think Chris plays this totally different and better.
xhardwarex 4 years ago
Coheed is fuckin' the gayest.
How can you float from one of the greatest to the ultimate in gayest
cocoabononohead 4 years ago 2
Ask Chris not me
xhardwarex 4 years ago 2
I think this new Dillinger record has the domination factor.
cocoabononohead 4 years ago
no hes playing it correctly
tbwannab 4 years ago
i love how the new guitarist bops his head to every little punch in the song...awesome groove
mattasspirate 4 years ago
jeff can speak for himself... but i have seen him play in other bands many times... and he has always been totally into the music he plays. his guitar work is incredible. i hope they write an album WITH him in the near future...
pearlybaker1 4 years ago
Chris is an insane genius, you can't compare someone who CREATE the song with someone who just PLAY the song.
trazero 4 years ago
id give you more plus comments if i could
tsimplic 4 years ago
I think you just said it all right there. thumbs up man.
Surisis1983 4 years ago
haha NEWBS.
i own dep.
jnks7 4 years ago
dudes. gil kicks ass. so does chris. gil will be just as good if not better, i am telling you! don't stop listening to DEP just because chris is gone!
kentman86 4 years ago 2
you brutal bastards
johncandyhimself 4 years ago
I'm not one for commenting on vids but I'm going to get the last one tattooed. rofl
Can't wait for someone else's nose bleed on the back of my head in manchester when the crowd miss the time change. fukin brill
Love it if dillinger did a seputribute to "kiowas" with chris and gil.
spundgunblunder 4 years ago
gil makes drumming looks so easy! chris looked like hew as really challenged when playing, and damn, he can play the shit out of drums, but gil looks like this is just a brush of the shoulder compared to what he is truly capable of
Millenwagon 4 years ago
lol As good as Gil is, Chris is 10x better then him. He always looks llike he's straining though.
MixD 4 years ago
hmm well i guess we cant say who's better at the end of the day, i bet they are both equally as talented, gil just looks more relaxed, they're both exploding with talent thats for sure! :D
Millenwagon 4 years ago
chris pennie is more relaxed and gil has some arms flaring in the air....and I do agree that they are both equaly talented
mattasspirate 4 years ago
man is this some bad overall video quality or what lol .. not sure if I prefer gil over chris .. then again it's not exactly a preference issue...
ghoaway 4 years ago
Its not bad quality.
Dillinger are just that fuckin metal
Ministryrules 4 years ago
Oh c'mon.
It's plain obvious that the video and sound qualities of this capture are lousy.
Yes we all know they are "that fuckin metal" but it's obvious they usually sound a lot better than this.
That's normal since it's probably just an unexpensive hand cam inside a small rehearsal space.
ghoaway 4 years ago
calm down dude
it was a joke
Ministryrules 4 years ago
sorry about the tour. damn it!
jeffellingson 4 years ago
gil fucking shreds. i like chris a lot, but gil is just as much a killer drummer. little bit of a different style, but still awesome. too bad about the quality here.
kentman86 4 years ago 4
Sucks that this is the worst video quality I've ever seen.
bretkill 4 years ago
My god they have got to be the luckiest band around anytime they found some that could fill Mr. Pennie's shoes like this.
MixD 4 years ago 2
levstah youre gay!
funkymunkydrummer 4 years ago
who cares how he looks, he's still rippin through the song like he wrote it!! I cannot wait for this album
trish48161 4 years ago
badass quality!
Menvafangemigettnamn 4 years ago
gil doesnt look anywhere near as good as chris when he's drumming
Levstah 4 years ago
Gil Sharone \m/
Shaunography 4 years ago
haha jean shorts
bearvsshaan 4 years ago 2
ThaT's awesome, he Gil plays the song Exactly like Chris did. they couldn't have picked a better drummer to jam with
trish48161 4 years ago
awful video quality but you still made it sound fuckin amazin ... cant wait til november :D
justanotherstarr 4 years ago
It looks like your having a great time. keep up the good work and don't break any more legs.
hawaiiandisco 4 years ago
too bad the damn tour got postponed!
Surisis1983 4 years ago
lol at lil wayne tag, cant wait to see them thursday
87Hizzetfield 4 years ago
JEA!
timma1 4 years ago
lil wayne is the best rapper alive
mistamena32 4 years ago
i'm not gonna lie, i miss chris p.!
DrBaldhead 4 years ago
Rocking facial hair.
shreddo72 4 years ago
Second comment. FUCK YOU!
jaasum 4 years ago
first comment! whoop whoop
oddzilla 4 years ago