I've never heard this version. It's cool. I still like the album version better, but this is nice. Good post. And as to all the controversy about this song: to me, it's clearly about a loving parent, maybe an overprotective one, but certainly nothing lurid or evil. The mention of the mother at the end: she's no longer around, maybe she left or died. That's why he's "the hand that rocks the cradle." And what she "never knew": that he loved his boy more than her.
I know the "original" from the album and it's been one of my all-time Smiths faves. Then ... I hear this. And the other Troy Tate's. So, if if the TT versions hit the record shops as The Smiths first album back in '83, what would have been the response? Until I heard the TT versions (though I know the "'Jeanne" B-side from long ago), I could never decide if the Smiths were more Morrisssey or more Marr. I love Marr's guitar. but I think Morrissey's lyrics hold it all together. So there ...
I like the lyrics of the Troy Tate Version a lot more than the lyrics of the other version. Because the other version seems like it is about child abuse. This version just seems to be more about a father who loves his son a lot.
@enduboh No they arent. The lyrics are pretty similar but there are some differences. For example: In the Troy Tate version Morrissey sings "And I never even gave his name" in the other version he sings "And I never even asked his name".
Can you buy a record of the Tate recordings? Anyone know?
jehouse 1 week ago
great poet
pullupboy 1 year ago
I've never heard this version. It's cool. I still like the album version better, but this is nice. Good post. And as to all the controversy about this song: to me, it's clearly about a loving parent, maybe an overprotective one, but certainly nothing lurid or evil. The mention of the mother at the end: she's no longer around, maybe she left or died. That's why he's "the hand that rocks the cradle." And what she "never knew": that he loved his boy more than her.
MckyMseNTarotCrds 1 year ago 5
I know the "original" from the album and it's been one of my all-time Smiths faves. Then ... I hear this. And the other Troy Tate's. So, if if the TT versions hit the record shops as The Smiths first album back in '83, what would have been the response? Until I heard the TT versions (though I know the "'Jeanne" B-side from long ago), I could never decide if the Smiths were more Morrisssey or more Marr. I love Marr's guitar. but I think Morrissey's lyrics hold it all together. So there ...
daivietjohn 1 year ago
Did Morrissey write this? I believe these lyrics to be the best of any Smiths song.
humanson143 1 year ago
@humanson143 Morrissey wrote all the Smith's lyrics.
Slapbass13 1 year ago
I like the lyrics of the Troy Tate Version a lot more than the lyrics of the other version. Because the other version seems like it is about child abuse. This version just seems to be more about a father who loves his son a lot.
adorelesun 1 year ago
@adorelesun the lyrics are the same
enduboh 1 year ago
@enduboh No they arent. The lyrics are pretty similar but there are some differences. For example: In the Troy Tate version Morrissey sings "And I never even gave his name" in the other version he sings "And I never even asked his name".
adorelesun 1 year ago
@adorelesun right, I see what youre talking about now. my mistake.
enduboh 1 year ago
This one almost has a country sound to it. Good example of The Smiths rockabilly influence.
RainJetSprinklers 1 year ago
This version is great. Almost didn't recognise it at first, the sound is very stripped back and bare.
skaszy1 1 year ago
I agree with steele66, i never knew there was a troy tate version though! That's amazing how you found it.
Eyesighttotheblind 2 years ago 2
i like the other version better but it's cool to hear these earlier Tate produced recordings.
steele66 2 years ago
thank you thank you thank you, thats all
sipper34 2 years ago
i don't know, I think the other one was a little better because it sounded like a lullaby.
muertefacil90 2 years ago 7
absolutely perfect
stairwayfilm 2 years ago
friggn awesome!!! totally different guitar sound.,,more crunchy
Cecily512 2 years ago
OMFG THIS IS AMAZING
drjoekidd08 2 years ago
Great Great!!!
don'nt know which one I like better!!
handsomedevil98 2 years ago