DO NOT TAKE THE FLU VACCINE ( hygiene + nutrition = best remedy )

[eigthforkpath]

this doucumentery is a half truth antivirals are good to peap out the swine flu bout antibiotics well make the flu spread faster threw out the body because we have treated the food we eat with are antibiotics.

[academianon]

@eigthforkpath

The overuse of antiviral medication is a problem identified by much of the medical field....

I don't eat meat, and I think people who do should eat organic, local animals who are not treated with antibiotics. :/

[nathan84841]

I have numerous issues with this video. As a microbiologist I think you are fundamentally incorrect with your statement.

[academianon]

I think that medical science and vaccination has made astronomical improvements to our longevity.

The problem is, here in Canada, that any negative side effects from the H1N1 vaccine will be the responsibility of the government (hence the taxpayers) rather than the company that produced it. That's my first issue.

I also think we're overusing vaccinations and antivirals. Hence I offer an alternative perspective. That's fine if you disagree, you have expert knowledge I lack so elaborate.

[kurdlands]

i already took the swine flu vaccine in school and the i will get the next one in another month i need advise pls i dont know much about it,

[2012forlove]

Go vegan, watch my video on why this is. Meditate, exercise, fresh food .. increase your immune system people ...

Love and Peace

[Ishinaz]

Or you stop cleaning every day, also makes your immune system waaay better!

[2012forlove]

lol ?

are you being serious ?

[Ishinaz]

Well, yes. It works! If your room/house/whatever is not perfectly clean, then there will be lots of bacterias and shit there, wich your body has to fight with all the time, strengthening your immune system.

[2012forlove]

@Ishinaz I see what you mean ... like to get our immune system used to the environment ... I heard that before ...

thanks for that ... but careful though do not get your body into overdrive when we do not take enough healthy stuff into our body :D

love and peace

[Yargultekner]

I am going to get the swine flu jab and the flu jab for I have asthma should I get the jab?

[academianon]

You should talk to your doctor and see what is best for you. Ask about adjuvants & thimerosol, and if any vaccine is available without such additives. I don't believe there are, but it's important you make an informed decision.

[sethy1]

if you made this video, thanks. its nice to see someone not using shock tactics and all that other bs out there.

[boonw]

"Jews and Arabs lived together in peace for centuries, it wasn't until the damn UN came in and chopped up the land that things became problematic."

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-When the ottoman empire fell, britain got a peice of land called the palestine mandate. When they no longer wanted to be there they split the mandate into two sides, one for muslims (jordan) and the other one for BOTH of them (isreal). The muslims didnt want a state that represented jews so they tried to destroy isreal.

[boonw]

"so the likes of you are bound by honour to defend all that you have sold your soul to! "

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- Unlike you, I like living in reality. I dont beleive in extraordinary claims unless given substanial evidence. Unfortunately you are crazy and an obvious fundie filled with bias. You know, I honestly think that though academianon here is ignorant, he is rather intelligent and is actually concerned with learning something. but you, you just want to stay as ignorant as you can to feel good about yourself

[academianon]

That's fine if you think I'm ignorant. However, if you put yourself in my position you might see how I would think the same of you

However, I do not. I've considered your counter arguments thoroughly. What I often provide is an alternative to the mainstream

There are many doctors and nurses out there who are skeptical of this vaccine.

I am NOT a luddite. I believe in technology, but I am also a strong believer in traditional/alternative healing practices. The two schools of thought must merge

[boonw]

"take your nazi BS off this video its not about Palestine, & show some damned respect for academianon! "

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-Yeah, I was just pointing that out about you, it goes further to deomonstrate you arent exactly the most reliable source. But seriously, you dont know what academia is, your idea academia instead of being intense study of theories and facts backed up by factual data is to beleive everything that sounds nice regardless of how well backed up it is, and reject everything else.

[academianon]

This is precisely what I do, I often provide a position that is often ignored or denied in mainstream academia. Either to make people think about things in a certain way, or as a route for activism and meaningful social change.

I wouldn't hold such high opinions of academia, the institutions of higher learning and research have become very rigid and dogmatic in many cases. It's time for a paradigm shift in my opinion.

If people don't want to take this vaccine that's their choice, bottom line.

[boonw]

"I wouldn't hold such high opinions of academia, the institutions of higher learning and research have become very rigid and dogmatic in many cases. It's time for a paradigm shift in my opinion."

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-You dont understannd. In the acedemic world you assume everything is wrong unless there is evidence to support it. Propositions are not taken seriously if there is no evidence. If you do have a study that shows that say vaccines are dangerous, do a study and gather the evidence.

[boonw]

"Getting cheap HIV anti-virals to people in Africa for example. I could cite many cases "

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-Okay, you find an affordable antiviral drug that you can mass produce to send to africa then be my guest. These companies just dont have any reason to send the drugs over there. Now, you find some funding to cover the production expenses of the drug and I am sure you could easily find a company that would cut you a good deal... but one thing, what does this have to do with flu vaccine safety?

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

boonw:

Canada bought those cheap vaccines and could have demanded non-mercury and adjuvant versions since 21 countries plus have banned what you are getting. Russia banned thermerisol in 1980 for children, your defending a very negligent position not to mention your ingnorance to the issue.

[boonw]

"The vaccine had terrible effects on many people."

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-I dont have time to look into it, but I am going to assume you are correct. I am going to assume (made up figure) that the vaccine killed 300 people, and gave severe medical problems to 3000 people. To me, thats an acceptable number considering that not using it could easily kill 20 times the number of people who were negatively affected by the vaccine. Also consider that the flu the vaccine stops could kill MILLIONS (its happened before)

[boonw]

"Corporations were much less influential when medicine was making it's major advances in life expectancy. "

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-Do you have any evidence that profit was any more of a factor back then as it was today? If anything, it has decreased because companies are now more acountable and have more regulations in place. Oh, one other thing, in the last 50 years, the worlds average life expectacy went up 20 years.

[boonw]

"When our so called "health" services are run by corporations and the goal is profit. "

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-Can you explain that since these corporations have sold their products, life expectancies have increased dramatically? Can you explain that most of these medications have been proven to work via clinical results? How about the fact that if the medicine isnt tested enough and kills people, these corporations can be sued for damages far more then what the profits were (yes, this has happened too).

[academianon]

Yes actually, in this specific circumstance (this H1N1 vaccine) the corporate CANNOT be sued for damages because our government entered an agreement with them. So the taxpayers are on the hook for damages should anything go wrong.

Furthermore, as I said health services were not always this profit focused. It's been an increasing phenomenon over the last 50-60 years.

Corporations were much less influential when medicine was making it's major advances in life expectancy.

[boonw]

"Yes actually, in this specific circumstance (this H1N1 vaccine) the corporate CANNOT be sued for damages because our government entered an agreement with them."

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-Can you refference that?

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-"Furthermore, as I said health services were not always this profit focused. It's been an increasing phenomenon over the last 50-60 years."

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-But you ignored my points that many of the major breakthroughs in medicine have been in that time period. Besides, you gave no evidence to support your claim.

[boonw]

"Yes actually, in this specific circumstance (this H1N1 vaccine) the corporate CANNOT be sued for damages"

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-Can you refference that?

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-"Furthermore, as I said health services were not always this profit focused. It's been an increasing phenomenon over the last 50-60 years."

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-But you ignored my point that many medical advances were made by the companies you slander in the last 50-60 years. Do you have any evidence that its more profit oriented today than it was 60 years ago?

[academianon]

Yes, I can. It's common knowledge in Canada. I can't post the link, please do a google search for this CBC article:

"Taxpayers on hook for any H1N1 vaccine damages"

Also, I believe it's very common knowledge that corporations are profit oriented. I'm not discounting medical advances during this period, but when the application of these discoveries to society are based upon profit there is a major problem

Getting cheap HIV anti-virals to people in Africa for example. I could cite many cases

[boonw]

"Also, I believe it's very common knowledge that corporations are profit oriented"

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-Corporations make money, thats what companies do. Their first priority is to apease the stockholders, public concern is a secondary interest. However, medical companies are highly regulated. They are not allowed to sell their products unless they are proven to do what they say, are generally safe to use (concerning the circumstances), and are clear about any risks.

[academianon]

Bottom line, it's a conflict of interest.

[boonw]

Take the vaccine, and consider any drugs doctors recommend if you are suspected of contacting swine flu. This flu is very dangerous and needs to be squashed before it can become a disaster. Vitamins and hygiene may prevent you from getting the disease, but you are still at risk for contracting, and pandemics in the past (ie: 1918 flu killed 20-100million) show that vitamins and hygiene are not very effective at stopping a disease, where vaccines have a very, VERY high success rate.

[academianon]

No thanks :)

Were you alive during the last "swine flu" scare where the vaccine killed more people than the flu?

When our so called "health" services are run by corporations and the goal is profit. I don't ever believe I'll be taking any of that. Sorry. Medical advances have been great in the last few centuries. However, over the last 60 years the focus has increasingly shifted towards profit rather than health.

So no thanks. I'll take my chances.

[boonw]

"Were you alive during the last "swine flu" scare where the vaccine killed more people than the flu?"

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-Really? Can you cite statistics? But just for fun, I am going to assume that you are right. Lets say that the vaccine kills 1 in 10 million people (which is WAY more high then current flu vaccine complications). I say thats an acceptable number to stop a flu stain that can cause a pandemic that kills millions. Remember, the 1918 flu pandemic started off as a flu just like this one.

[academianon]

The swine flu vaccine scare of the 1970s, look into it.

It was before my time but when I was informed about it I was very surprised by how similar the circumstances are.

The vaccine had terrible effects on many people.

[boonw]

"The swine flu vaccine scare of the 1970s, look into it." - - Look into these pandemics - -1918 flu -1957 asian flu -1968 hong kong flu - -These all started just like the swine flu, and people didnt think to much of it until it was too late. Swine flu is much more easily contracted then other flu stains, and it has capacity to become a deadly virus that kills millions of people. We need to squash this when it is small. - -Trust me, listen to the scientists, they know what they are talking about

[academianon]

I'm aware of previous flus, and I am also aware that the seasonal flu kills many people a year.

There are many doctors and nurses questioning this vaccine. To be honest, if you don't have time to look into what I'm suggesting to you, then I don't see why we should continue this discussion until you do have time.

How do you feel about being on the hook for this vaccine? I see you're Canadian..

Anyways, cheers.

[boonw]

"I'm aware of previous flus, and I am also aware that the seasonal flu kills many people a year."

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-Yes, that is true, but its unusual for anyone to die unless they already have medical issues. The problem with the pandemics I cited is that a goog number of the people they killed were healthy individuals. If a mutation happens in the swine flu that makes it so that it kills healthy people very easily, then you are looking at a death toll in the tens of thousands if not more.

[Citygypsy]

agreed on all. just saw a thing from Dr. Mercola (please look him up on Google or Youtube) and apparently VITAMIN D is of utmost importance as well as all mentioned in this video. Be Well and God Bless.

[BoriChumba]

I was recently diagnosed with swine flu.. I wasn't examined by a doctor, I was forbidden to go to see my doctor or even go to the hospital, & was diagnosed over the phone by a sack loadfull of questions. A family member had to go to a specified place to pick up the Tami Flu capsules along with a verification code number given over the phone. I took it for the first 2 days & then stopped.. I recovered after a week. Its a horrible illness but you don't need that cr*p they give you!!

[BoriChumba]

My advise if you do get swineflu is drink loads & loads & loads coz you sweat so much it looks like you have been submerged in a bucket of water! Your hair & clothes will be soaking wet constantly when its at its peak.. eat well now coz you can't hold much down when ill. You will feel freezing cold, but your burning up.. if you need another blanket then get one .. this is not advised for kids tho. Just ride with it, take pain killers coz u feel likeur head will explode with the pain..

[boonw]

"I took it for the first 2 days & then stopped.. I recovered after a week. Its a horrible illness but you don't need that cr*p they give you!!"

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-The fuck! People lik,e you make me sick, and people like you are responsible for half the medicine problems we face. Most medicines are not good for you, and most do not work as fast as you would like, but the virus is much more dangerous. If you hurt it, but not squash it by taking the medicine for only a few days, it could develop an immunity.

[boonw]

@BoriChumba

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What I dont understand about people like you is that you take everything the scientific community has given you for granted like clean water, medicine (antibiotics, smallpox vaccine which saved billions), computers, and world wide travel, yet you then go out and declare that a hunch you have somehow overturns all their education, experience, and confirmed lab results.Then again, what else would you expect from an anti-Semitic fundamentalist muslim who likes nazis(check her profile)

[academianon]

Are you serious?

I don't see anything, ANYTHING, about Nazi's on this persons profile. Are you calling them anti-semetic because of the palestinian support videos?

If so, that's utterly ridiculous.

[BoriChumba]

@boonw.. wake up!!

The water I pay rates for so I get what I pay for! GOD supplies water, its the same governments who cash in on industries who pollute the rivers & seas, when I was a kid we used to be able to swim in rivers.. not any more! Everything else on your list I pay for.. pathetic anology computers? Wtf have they got to do with vacines?

[BoriChumba]

@boon.. anti-semite?? Well obviously you are a zionist, & have just shown yourself for what you are.. pathetic! You should have checked my friends list.. I have many NON-ZIONIST Jews there! REAL Jews not Nazi ones! Anyways.. take your nazi BS off this video its not about Palestine, & show some damned respect for academianon!

[boonw]

"REAL Jews not Nazi ones! "

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-For one, jews have been living in the middle east FAR before islam came around, but I guess letting them keep only 1% of the land in the middle east is too much for you. Yes, I am aware that modern immigrants are completely unlike the ones that have lived there for centuries but suck it up. There are so many immigrants here that are unlike canadians who have lived here for generations (arabs, chinese, eastern european) but we dont try to get rid of them!

[BoriChumba]

Boon.. take your nazi ... oops I mean zionist BS elsewhere.. we all know zionism is part of the illuminati, so the likes of you are bound by honour to defend all that you have sold your soul to!

[academianon]

Jews and Arabs lived together in peace for centuries, it wasn't until the damn UN came in and chopped up the land that things became problematic.

Just like with other colonial projects, dividing land into borders that make no sense to the locals peoples caused a lot of hardship that is being felt to this day in the developing world.

Zionism = occupation

There are many Jewish people in the world who oppose this, and supporting Palestinians doesn't make someone a fundamentalist.

[boonw]

"Zionism = occupation"

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-Actually, zionism refers to a movement that jews from other countries move to isreal. Isreal has had a jewish majority for thousands of years.

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-"There are many Jewish people in the world who oppose this, and supporting Palestinians doesn't make someone a fundamentalist."

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-True, but most the criticism is for west bank settlers. There are rational supporters for palestine, but Chumba is not one of them. Just look at her profile and scroll down the page.

[boonw]

"The water I pay rates for so I get what I pay for! GOD supplies water"

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-First of all, god probably doesnt exist, so quit worrying and get on with your life. Second, CIVILIZATION supplies the water. I have yet to see a god locate aquifers and other water sources, I have yet to see a god build water pumps, I have yet to see a god make a purification system capable of taking in the most filthy of water and making it pure water safe for drinking.

[boonw]

"Everything else on your list I pay for.. pathetic anology computers? Wtf have they got to do with vacines? "

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-It wasnt an analogy. I was simply pointing out that everything that makes modern life possible was brought out by science. Without the dedicated scientific community you would still be freezing, starving, dying of horrific disseases and living in extreme unbearable poverty. Show them some respect.

[z1zaz]

Google for

mailonsunday + tamiflu + overkill

also

timesonline + tamiflu + nightmares

[RALthaDon]

Good work. Much appreciated.

[academianon]

By the way everyone, sorry for my silly spelling mistakes. Hygiene :o

I'm an academic but I must admit that I'm a bit dyslexic at times ;D

[terr547]

Keep informing people, my friend.

You are immeasurably important.

[Scr0d3]

canada unite

[finditherefirst]

Thank you for this.

[Lookup2Wakeup]

Tamiflu was made & issued before this swine virus escaped.

So of course its not the right vacine. Cart before the horse.

They are doing it again with the anticipated next version for the autumn.

Until it appears they will not know what vaccine to make.

But they are makingit now of course.

This is all a scam.

WAKE UP PEOPLE you your common sence.

[academianon]

Hey :)

Tamiflu is not actually a vaccine, it's an antiviral drug (lots of controversy on the overuse of those drugs eh?). So that's what the first part of my video is about.

As for the vaccine, I think it's really being pushed through way too quickly because of the "CRISIS".

Like I said, good hygiene and nutrition are the best protections :) Common sense indeed eh? Take care !

[satanic6ritual]

i don' t think there are any non-gmo corn. both soy and corn have been extensively modified and even if it's labeled non-gmo many products still are because they share the same transportation equipment and the non-gmo crops get contaminated with gmo seeds blowing onto fields ect. A wall street journal report concluded that many non-gmo foods were actually gmo. I can't remember the percentage but it was pretty high. Also ionized salt has fluoride in it.

[academianon]

Hey! Your best bet is to buy organic corn since a requirement of organic food is that it's not genetically modified. However, like you say there is a good chance that it's contaminated.

Maize (or mexican varieties) of corn are also good, but they might also be contaminated. At least 60% of corn grown in North America is GM unfortunately.

I eat organic corn now and then. Another option is to buy heirloom seeds and grow your own! :)

But yeah, most of our food is contaminated. :/

[jpaint]

inoculate yourself with colloidal silver...it has naturally amazing antibiotic properties!

[mrJOEmann]

Obama is the largest share holder OF BAXTER LABS..

[satanic6ritual]

He is? I've never heard that one..

[mrJOEmann]

look it up,

he has charges against him in 3 countries right now... and the world health organization .

[mrJOEmann]

what a waste of money, and resources

: _ (

[Euterperocks]

NO shots, NO doctors for me EVER! I've suffered lasting damage at the hands of doctors (botched unnecessary surgeries, misdiagnosis of my condition & averse reactions to meds etc). Naturopathic healing, acupuncture, massage therapy YES. Herbs & whole foods, thank you. One of the few things that makes me violently angry is the thought of Western medicine, period. Threaten to put me in contact with an allopathic doctor and I refuse to be held responsible for my actions. ~EndRant~

[1belleinconnue2008]

IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO BE VACCINATED IN CANADA. WE DEMAND THE RIGHT TO SAY NO TO VACCINATIONS.

well, im not gonna ask for it!! i take it for granted (the right to choose...and say no!!)

[lostinthemix]

Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food.

[808hunter1]

@lostinthemix hippocras, that saying is so true; try researching the gracie diet

[jbreezes]

I believe Donald Rumsfield is a major owner and board member of Tamiflu.