are these protesters retarded or something, they have no idea what they're talking about, furries are the best damn thing in this world, for every hater there's at least a thousand furries to counter act them. trolls fail. and every year hunderds of furries join the fandom, so just shut the fuck up and leave us alone,
I would have come to that protest. And carried my "yiff in hell" sign proudly. Even if I believe their going to Niflheim to be tortured in Nastrond so as to reincarnate into cockroaches and dung beetles and don't actually believe in "hell."
Wait, wut? You guys actually took the time out of your day to stand there in the rain... holding protest signs... because of furries? Wow OK. What a waste of time, but whatever gets you off...
Oh, yes, and... I've been to about 8 furcons already. Sure, a few guys stink, but you find unwashed creeps at sci-fi and fantasy cons, anime cons, renfairs, anywhere of that sort. But I've never smelled "shit & piss", "musk" (the cologne or the real stuff? Muskrat? Muskox?) or "astroglide" (does lube even HAVE a smell?), nor heard "animalistic grunting". OH NOES, look, creepy stuff goes on at furry cons! Don't actually go to one and see for yourself! Just trust me!" LULZ Prost. You crack me up.
Rule number one: take the furry fandom, everyone in it, and everyone talking about it with a grain, nay a bucket of salt. "Furry" as a term encompasses a large collection of loosely-knit groups who think it means different things. Some of 'em are unwashed, fugly freaks. Some aren't. And--
...wait, why am I even doing this? Prost has a fursona/character, and he's essentially a troll, albeit a funny one. But then, really, over half the people who troll the fandom are IN the fandom themselves.
Woodbury where are your gods now? The Woodbury sim in SL has been demolished,and i'm one of those who were supplying the Lindens with info on it mostly being all Patriotic Nigras at the sim.
Do you even know how much money the anthrocon brings into the community during the few days it takes place? Lets see... "In 2008, the convention contributed more than $3 million to the local economy." Source: Anthrocon 2010 "modern stone-age furries" brochure
So how does this work exactly, you protest for people that help the economy to leave? So pittsburgh would have had $3 million less if the anthrocon didn't go on there. Restaurants even customize their menus for the anthrocon!
Lets see, theres over 5,000 people at Anthrocon every single year. And there's 7 or so protestors? AND they were foolish enough that they didnt bring umbrellas, and had to use the ones given to them by Uncle Kage? Doen't make much sense to me. Wasting time and money to come to Anthrocon just to get chased away by us furries. Honestly, if I was there I wouldve clapped for the protestors for being so brilliant. I'm guessing they would like an EPIC with a side of that FAIL.
Well, furry is often an umbrella of groups that identify as furry specifically for the communal acceptance that community presents. In that way, their fandom hardly has any sort of common sense or acceptable social conduct. The only times you actually see furries self-regulate themselves is when they criticize cases of bestiality and pedophilia when the media finds out or if someone is arrested. On top of that, they demand you accept them as if they were persecuted jews or gays.
@laddy333 Because they think it's funny. These guys think anything that involves put-downs and mocking is a riot. I don't get it, myself. The term is 'troll'. Trolling usually amounts to the equivalent of, "Hey, if I poke this guy with a stick enough times, he gets really mad! Haha, what an idiot. Isn't this awesome?"
Hate is just ones lack of intelligence, breed together by the incestuous love your father had for his sister. Whats funny is hearing people rant and protest about furries, and similar nonesuches, because i wonder how much of a narcissist do you have to be, to even create the slightest thought that the 6 billion people on earth could possibly give a damn about what you have to say. Its time to be big girls and boys and move forward with our lives.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Your statements prove to rely on assumption, arrogant presumptions. Thus proving my point further. Your distaste is formed by your inability to reason, causing you to lash out at what isn't present in your tiny ideology. Behold the self righteousness of white trash, origin of rancorous doctrine.
You talk about presumption when in reality my single judgement formed out of nothing more than reasoning.
Then you turn around and accuse me of things far worse than the single one I threw at you.And these accusations are based on "assumption , arrogant presumptions".
It's as if you said that just to make what you said next completely ironic.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Please good sir, Lay out your upmost educated reasons in which you feel compelled to hinder that which does not concern your life style. There must be a deep set meaning for the rooted disdain, correct? Then again, trash will always be trash.
You do know that the so called "furry fandom" is a group based above all else on sexual attraction to people with animal characteristics/actual animals?
@FILTERSGODAMNIT "Your statements prove to rely on assumption, arrogant presumptions" Precisely why i have stated this before. The furry fandom was constructed to further the interest of anthropomorphics. Among those who take part commonly appreciate sci-fi and fantasy as well. As for the more mature aspect, rule 34. Sexual content exists for all the mind could conceive. However you may not judge a majority for a minority's action. If so that would be a definite presumption.
Except they aren't presumptions at all. It's plain and clear that the furry fandom is largely about sex.How you can call that part of the fandom a minority is beyond me.It's sheer Ignorance and delusion.
They invented their own word for "fuck".For christ's sake.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I am sorry, but i was never invited to the meeting in which furries would devise the word yiff. In truth, it is a minority. Being part of the fandom, i have had exposure to furry at its very basis. It's crass depiction to insist you hold truth without the slightest experience. assumption to the finest detail. I am a Furry and yet i do not fit your generalization, nor the furs i have come to know.
Oh,so because you are a furry and you claim the group that you hang around with isn't into yiff that means that this is the case in every other furry community and the group as a whole and I must be wrong and am speaking out of ignorance?
Did you know that if you type in "furries" to google images,autocomplete will suggest "sexuality" and "in heat" on the end of that?That is because they are the most popular search terms.
And way to address my point about "yiff" existing.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT lol, of course it exists, like i said rule 34, buddy. Compared to an accusation outside the subject, yes you are wrong. It's call prejudice mentality. In the end i would never force feed my beliefs onto another but to live in ignorance would be a most uneducated bliss filled with narcissistic thought. Thought that one may accumulate knowledge without experience.
wow are you trying to ignore everything i have been throwing at you are you so absorbed into the fandom you need any criticism explained to you?
Since you don't seem to get it.The very fact that furries have invented their own word for sex and fuckery shows that they do indeed have a strong taste for it.
buttsecks is clearly highly popular in the furry club. You must be in denial.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT You do seem to exhibit a lack of knowledge for the fact, yiff's actually meaning is hello. It was later given a more obscene connotation. Such is found within the english language: jack-ass, bitch, ect. I acknowledge the presence of sensual behaviors, but once more, small minority.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT You make no sense what so ever. I have told you several times i know it exists, rule 34, rule 34, rule 34. You keep rambling about nothingness, sounding like a broken record. It doesn't matter what i say to you because your arrogance is your high. Your thoughts are seated on such a high pedestal you may conceive no wrong. I have brought you my knowings and you discern. You have a a lot to learn about life.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT "Yiff" is a subjective term, really. Asking a furry if he's "into yiff" is like asking a college guy if he's "into sex". It's just word-substitution. I'm into furry stuff and I go to cons, but it doesn't define me as a person - I'm a human, not a furry critter trapped in a human's body or a werewolf or whatever other crap people claim. And I don't "yiff", I fuck. "Yiff" also tends to imply sluttiness - I'll stick to one person, thanks.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I'm not interested in "social acceptance". I don't consider it enough of a characteristic of me to think it's worth telling random people. I just think "your mileage may vary" - the fandom is a mashup of people who all put different things into it and get different things out of it. It's hard to categorize it properly because of this, but calling furries abnormal freaks is funny and satisfies peoples' need to place everything/everyone in tidy categories. In the end I don't care.
@JonasClark In the end furries are still high in their population of sick fucks. As varied as it may be it still harbors these things and in great number.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yes, there's a "sick fuck" category in the fandom, and they think the fandom makes a good cover, but the NON-"sick fucks" in the fandom still know who they are and stay the hell away from them. They're the ones wandering around alone at cons, and sleeping in the lobby because no one will let 'em into their rooms. All I'm saying is, there are multiple categories that make up the fandom, and to assume that the majority of them are fucked-up is a disservice to the ones who aren't.
@JonasClark But to assume that the majority are fucked up is completely warranted when unfiltered results for a google image search of "furry art" are mainly porn.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT One of the big reasons for that is that furry porn is more shocking than furry non-porn, so it gets reposted a lot by the great "anonymous" aka the "internet hate machine". Furries tend toward being realkly thin-skinned and many of them are really touchy, so they're easy to troll. There's loads of G-rated furry art out there - it just doesn't attract a lot of attention because it isn't "freaky"; it's easily written off as simply cartoon drawings.
@JonasClark but the reason it's at the top is likely because it's the most popular.
Since it's safe to assume furries are the ones who look at furry porn. That means that lots of furries like porn way more than what they would have people believe.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I remember reading a blog post from an artist who was approached by whoever was writing the Vanity Fair "Pleasures of the Fur" article from '01. They wanted to use very fetish-heavy piece of his. He told them that he drew little of that, and let them look through a large portfolio of tamer art which was his usual subject matter. They politely declined, and told him they did not want "tame" art because it didn't help support the "fetish freaks" angle they were intending.
@JonasClark That doesn't have anything to do with google turning up the most popular results. Or me and many others basing their views entirely on what they have seen of furries online.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I won't dispute your right to your opinion. But I'll say that at least 40% of the furry fandom LOVES trolling the furry fandom. Much of the bad rep comes from trolls who ARE furries. At least 30% of the rest of the fandom explode at the slightest touch, so trolling them is easy. Prost's faux protest, was actually pretty funny - a few trolls consider causing a known depressive person to commit suicide by way of endless hounding, taunting and harassment to be a badge of honor.
@JonasClark Seems like you are ignoring the search results. Even in a search for just "furry" porn is quick to show itself.
Unless you are claiming furry trolls actively create and plant furry porn for the purpose of ruining their reputation I can't see how they would twist the image of furries.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I put "furry" into Google Images. Of the first 100 images on the list, 10 are pornographic or pin-up artwork, 7 are prank images (mostly of the "demotivational poster" variety), 18 are G-rated artwork. About 12 are photos of fursuits; approximately half are shots of suiters at cons, and half are photos of the weirdest and creepiest suits out there. And yes, there are always a handful of creepy ones at cons. The rest is "Super Furry Animals" images and random unrelated stuff.
@JonasClark You left out the content that wan't furry, but yes there it isn't all over the place. "Furry art" is still the winrar for churning out porn however.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Okay, searched "furry art" (in quotes). First 100 matches. Of them, I see 18 that are nude or pornographic, and an additional 18 that I'd call pin-ups and involve swimsuits or unusual clothing but aren't swexually suggestive. The trent visibly continues at about this same level of saturation down the page.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I don't use safe search, on anything. Shall I do a screen-grab of the search and mail it to you, or what?
One way or another, are you really prepared to accept what "the internet" and Google Images paint as the picture of the fandom? I'm IN the fandom, I love to laugh at its bad side, and I just don't get it. But, like I said, you have every right to your opinion.
I think it's pretty strange that your search didn't receive much porn while mine did.
As fantastic it would be that I've been looking at furry porn and google's results are specifically dealing more porn to me than a furry. That's pretty unlikely when several other search engines also deal loads of furry porn when searching for "furry" and "art".
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I dunno what to tell you. I don't doubt that you get what you get. I'm just saying what *I* get when I search those terms, with safe search turned off. But again I say: don't get web searches and the general "opinion of the internet" be your guide.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I don't necessarily disagree with your "furries adore porn" argument; only the apparent decision to base your opinion on the opinion of the notoriously nasty 'anonymous' and the often lopsided view of 'whatever shows up in Google Images'.
Furries aren't bad if you pick 'em right, like any social group. Furry CONS aren't bad if you understand you'll see some 'wierd' stuff; know you *won't* see anything really disgusting unless you find G-rated fursuits horrifying.
@JonasClark This clearly isn't working,so I'll be honest for a change.
I agree. Furries aren't all sex crazed failures like the trolling might have you believe. Sometimes it's accurate, but you can't make that generalization on such a diverse and vaguely defined idea.
The most irksome about the fandom,Is their reaction to criticism. They are often very sensitive and their arguments are either weak, misinformed or ignorant. Peoples views on furries stem a lot from personal experience with them.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I couldn't agree more. My opinion: About 30% of the entire furry fandom are ridiculously thin-skinned. About 30% of the fandom are trolls, who actively troll non-furries, give the fandom a bad name, enjoy both immensely, and are still furries. These two groups overlap in the middle, making furries who troll and then scream "fursecution" (I hate that term) when someone trolls them back. Last but not least, about 15% of the fandom fit ALL the bad stereotypes.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT It's unfortunate that in any organized group, from serious (politics, religion) to less so (furries), it's the minor number of crazy, wacko and/or trolling types that people remember and then assume are the average of that group. With furries, they're not, but the trolls love giving it bad press, which is essentially mass trolling: instead of pissing off one guy for their amusement, they can piss off a whole group. Me, I don't 'get' the appeal or the supposed 'fun' of trolling.
@JonasClark I think offline the furry fandom is judged mainly on it's fursuiting. That concept is probably what most people associate the most with furry.
But I also think that there are far more "crazy, wacko" people in the fandom than you give it credit for. It steps into the realms of otherkinism and things like therianthopy. It harbors all manner of strange ideas.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Interesting that you mention otherkin, thereianthropes etc. The majority of both I've seen despise 'furries' and the fandom, even though many of them cling to its fringes. I think the average furries thought to be impostors/fakes, as opposed to "real" were-creatures (most claim to 'shift' only in soul or spirit) or 'real' animals-in-human-bodies. They're thought to be obsessed with conventions, drawings etc. whereas these guys think of it as a deep, spiritual thing.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT People assume fursuits are for sex/are fetish gear. Neither I nor anyone I know has seen fursuit sex; I've seen one photo of a suit with a sheath. MY fursuit isn't full-body, just a head, tail, paws and street clothes, the head is lightweight and has a jaw that opens when I speak and a little cooling fan, and yet it still gets warm enough that doing anything strenuous in it would be a bad idea. As it stands, I only wear it for about an hour at a time and only at cons.
@JonasClark I should think not. Even if all sexual claims about furries were true I don't think they are liable to have their yiff orgies in public view.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I haven't seen a lick of evidence that furries tend have big orgies at all. Yeah, there are a fair few really promiscuous furries, but they still seem to prefer one partner at a time. I mean, I'm sure some furries somewhere have had multi-person sex fests, but non-furries have had 'em too. And I'd think of otherkin as "hardcore furries", except that otherkin are usually clear that it's the other way around to them, that furries are "poser/wanna-be otherkin".
@FILTERSGODAMNIT LOL. Thanks, I really needed that laugh. That seems to be the opinion that's generated the first time furry-despisers go to a big con and do some exploring. "Furries are worse than I thought! I can't find any horrors! They must be so bad, they're hiding 'em from the outsider!" Yes, there are creeps at cons sometimes. There are creeps at anime, comic book, fantasy and sci-fi cons and ren faires, too.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I do, having been in the fandom. The really gross furries NEVER care whether their bad side shows; they don't care about much. The trolls try to show as much of the bad stuff as possible. And much of the rest of the fandom HAS no disgusting side to show unless you think of walking around in fursuits disgusting, and that's not hidden. I've been to eight big cons, countless little ones and hundreds of parties. There ARE no deep dark secrets they carefully work to hide. None.
This. people like Uncle Kage say that Furry Fandom isn't about secks. Why not get Uncle Kage on TV to represent the fandom? He could better represent it than people like Chewfox who got banned for libeling the fandom.
@axelfox980 There is no "ban from the fandom". The Fandom is a loose organization at best, a mass of barely-connected groups at worst. There have been a few interviews with nicer furries, but they don't net attention because they're not shocking. The bad ones make news. But even the furries that furries themselves hate, like Ross Reddick AKA Sibe, can't be 'kicked out of the fandom' - they can be banned from conventions, but cons are not run by any big, cohesive One Furry Order.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT You come to a con and it's not like people go, "Oh, crap, an OUTSIDER, hide the moonshine, the Cuban cigars and the Super-Secret Furry Secrets!" Anyone can go get a badge at a big con, work their way into the gathering, and see everything there is to see. Hey, if you're polite and friendly, you can even talk your way into the closed-door room parties and watch people mixing drinks, socializing and looking through furry art...behind closed doors! Ooooh, seeeecret...
@FILTERSGODAMNIT ...and? At a furcon, at least half of the art for sale is porn. But this means approximately half of it isn't porn. It's not a "secret codeword". It sounds like we sidle up to the dealer's otherwise empty tables and whisper, "Show me the... furry art..." and they enter the code in the safe and pull out the dirty stuff. Besides that, why then are there G-rating-only furry art sites...? Yeah there's loads of porn in the fandom. How much porn is in the anime fandom...?
@FILTERSGODAMNIT 99% of the internet knows about furry porn - what is there to hide? Anyone who wants to know what furries are like, go to one of the larger cons, FC in San Jose or AC in Philly, get a membership and walk around - they'll see the good, the bad and the ugly all in one place. Do you really, honestly think that we have this database of real, true furries, and when an outsider gets a badge at a con, we all know and go rushing around to make things pretty?
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Do you honestly believe that we have this elaborate ruse going, or are you pulling my leg? And, if the former, what are we hiding? EVERYONE knows about furry porn. Nomadic tribes in Africa probably know about furry porn. What exactly is there to hide? There are a number of furry artists who are well-known in the fandom and don't draw anything pornographic. NONE of the furry art I've commissioned is X-rated, in fact I like the G-rated stuff more BECAUSE I can hang it up.
@JonasClark Yes I am pulling your leg. But I think there is some truth to the idea.
For instance Fur Affinity filters out mature and adult content, and it's impossible to turn these filters off if you are a guest.
Of course that doesn't mean it's some secret conspiracy to better their reputation, but I have heard some people say that if you turn the filters off and simply brows though the images there are an awful lot of dongs.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yeah, that's 100% true, but the idea isn't so much to "hide it from outsiders" as it is to make sure the site is G-rated unless you click the "I am of proper legal age to view this stuff" button. (We all know there's no real way to know, but it covers one's legal ass). Everyone knows furry art is about 60% porn. So is about 60% of anime art. But the fandom, really, is what you make of it, what you put into it, and what you take away. It's up to us to make and see what we want.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT No one in the fandom really wants kids accessing the stuff by accident. There are also not all that many furries who really *demand* to be considered 'normal' - the ones who are outspoken usually simply want to NOT be considered scum-of-the-earth all because of their hobby of the furry fandom. 'Course, most of the people who call furries scum are the trolls, the same people who're trying to convince others that furries are scum - and all that work for a few laughs??
@JonasClark I goto FARANK dot com, and see that the top 100 most trafficked, favourited and watched (and probably top 1000) artists are all porn artists and i just laff. I'm sorry, hearing "furries don't care about porn" has as much truth to it as "The Queen doesn't poop"
It's pmuch a fetish brah
Everyone peanut butthurt and u jelly sandwich since 1886. 20 years later and still fetish.
@pr0stsh0cker Thing about the fandom is that many different people like different aspects of it. There are quite a few furries who don't look at or draw porn, but about 75% of furry art is porn and about 75% of the fandom enjoys it. You seem to enjoy being able to slam the stamp of "FETISH" on the entire group, but while it applies to most, it doesn't apply to all. And I've never heard anyone claim that "furries don't care about porn", that's patently bullshit. I'd laugh at anyone who said it.
@pr0stsh0cker But then, isn't that the way trolls work? Trolling can be defined, in most cases, by "Hey, look, if I call these guys freaks/screw around with them/poke them with a really sharp stick enough times, they get mad! Isn't that a riot?" Me, I just don't really 'get' why trolling is apparently so incredibly worth the time just for chuckles. But then, I'm not of the 'easily amused' persuasion.
@JonasClark "the ones who are outspoken usually simply want to NOT be considered scum-of-the-earth"
Although I can't recall them, I have encountered many who are offended by far lesser, and sometimes trivial, things.
"most of the people who call furries scum are the trolls"
The hate comes more from haters than actual trolls. You can't blame all the hate on trolls because that's being unrealistic when you consider all the weird stuff that the label "furry" tends to harbor.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I don't really think of trolls as any "better" simply because they don't believe their own hate. And most of the stuff in the fandom that's considered weird is, in my opinion, not all that messed-up. Porn? 60% of the internet is porn, who cares? Fursuits? It's just people in costumes, who cares? Furry art? It's just drawings, who cares? But the trolling is what brings the hate by saying, "Look! These people do this stuff! Isn't that horrible?? C'mon, this is sick thit, people!!"
@JonasClark I think not. There are people who genuinely don't like furries . It doesn't seem logical to blame a group of people who operate entirely for their personal sense of lulz for furries' bad reputation when there is another group that is genuine in it's beliefs. Not to mention there are plenty of furries who give the label a far worse name than any troll or hater.
And I should make note, that although certain things aren't 'in' the fandom.The fandom does tend to harbor some weird stuff.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT But what begins certain peoples' dislike of the fandom? Most of the (I admit) bad stuff some furries do has had only two pushes into the mainstream: trolls, and the few magazine articles which were intended from square one (even admitted by the writers) to portray furries as *only* a deviant and twisted sexual fetish. Besides those two things, 90% of the world wouldn't hear about 'em. Both the trolls and the articles intentionally aim for, "Look! OVER HERE!" Isn't this awful??"
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I think both are an issue but, yes, media is a problem. The three or four major articles that have been written have all been approached from the angle of "Juicy, titillating stories sell well. Furries are kinda weord and have a sexual aspect. So we'll focus on their sexual side to the point of painting them as a nothing but twisted sexual deviants, and we'll sell a lot of magazines"
@JonasClark that's true, but there is no denying that sexuality is big part of the fandom. Google Insights has some rather interesting search statistics relating to it.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yeah it is, but, so what? Sexuality is a huge part of the anime fandom in the US, too. Who cares? Or, more importantly (because some people have a sort of "outrage complex" where they search for things to get angry over) who SHOULD care?
@JonasClark furries are the ones who care the most it seems. You are one of the rare exceptions who hasn't said that only a tiny percent of furs have an interest in the sexual side of the fandom.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT The ones who claim that sex is only a small part of the fandom are, I'm quite certain, trying to do damage control in the aftermath of three magazine articles that have claimed the fandom is nothing BUT sex, and really twisted, screwed-up sex at that (and, as I've said, all three didn't *discover* this in the fandom - they started with "Let's make this article as titillating and scandalous as possible, discuss only the fetishy stuff, and it'll sell loads of copies").
@JonasClark "The ones who claim that sex is only a small part of the fandom are, I'm quite certain, trying to do damage control in the aftermath of three magazine articles that have claimed the fandom is nothing BUT sex"
I learn more the side of it being pure delusion.
" "Let's make this article as titillating and scandalous as possible, discuss only the fetishy stuff, and it'll sell loads of copies""
But there's no denying it's the most striking feature of the fandom.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Doesn't matter. The magazine articles diswcussed the fandom as though it was the one and only side and, further, that ALL furries are into either fursuit sex, plushie sex, and/or besitality. Which is patently not true, all of it.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT It's not a "trend". The fandom is made up of many little splinter groups barely holding onto one umbrella. To assume, or claim, that the fandom HAS a united front or that more than half of the people who call themselves furries are into fursuit sex, plushophilia or bestiality is, frankly, laughable. I'm right in the thick of it, and I personally know 'furries' ranging from really sensible, level-headed people to crazy, fetishy crackpots with thin skins. There is no "trend".
@JonasClark are you denying there is no connection among fursuit sex, plushophilia, bestiality, misanthropy, therianthropy and the referring to ones self as a furry?
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I am not. I am saying that these things: (1) are not fetishes common to all or most furries, (2) do not define the fandom and (3) are, in fact, small parts of it. Fursuit sex is, AFAIK, almost impossible - it's too easy to overheat in a fursuit. Bestiality: in my experience, the average furry has zero interest in nonsentient, quadrupedal critters.
@JonasClark They may not be a part of the fandom, but these are traits that accumulate alongside it.
Also we have to consider that many people in the fandom who do have an interest in some of the more unpleasent things furries are known for aren't likely to openly admit to liking these things.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT True and true. And, unfortunately, the public's perception of the fandom, magazine articles aside, will probably always be based on the fandom's weirdest members, and the members who shout about their crziness the loudest. A small handful of bad apples may not ruin the bunch, but it certainly puts others off from it. And as said before, I think at LEAST 30% of the fandom consists of furries who love to troll furries, scream 'fursecution' and generally get bad attention, for fun.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Therianthropy is a bit of a splinter sect; plenty of mainstream furries think of themselves as connected to animals, but more in the sort of way that the Chinese zodiac ascribes animal traits to personalities and vice-versa. Most people who call themselves therians or shifters disdain or even hate the fandom and the people in it, it seems considering them "fake" or "pretending to be animal-connected". Therianthropes generally stick to their own and don't ID as furry.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT As far as I can tell, the biggest complaint from therians/weres about furries in general seems to be a notion that furries are somehow fakes, pretenders, wanna-bes, whereas therians have a "real" animal connection. Again, as with furries, I can't and won't paint them with a broad brush, it's an unfair move. Most furries are not zoophiles - and from what I've seen, most zoophiles aren't much into furry stuff.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Oh yeah, many of them DO say and think that. I'm just saying that the general feeling I get from many therianthrope types is that "furries" are a knock-off or fake of the "real thing", that is to say, therians/weres/etc. It all comes down to this: IN the fandom itself, it is what you put into it, and what you take away. Enjoy the parts of it you like, ignore the parts you don't, and try not to be a dick or dumbass. That's my across-the-board "how to be a furry" advice.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yeah, they are. My mom works for a coming-out support group, and one mom was less concerned about her son coming out as gay than she was about a "furry group" he joined - which involved running around naked in the woods, pretending to be wolves, and coming home covered in scratches and bug bites. This was apparently local, but no local fur I've ever spoken to have heard of anyone doing that, much less locally.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT It is also partly because the public in general loves "juicy", scandalous stuff. Sad thing is, I think many people get zoophiles and furries mixed up by way of having only a rudimentary understanding of what furries are. The local group I mentioned - I asked again, and it's u8nclear whether they called themselves furries or whether it was the closest thing she could find on Google - it sounds like a therian group, though all therians I've met only claim to "shift" in spirit.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Basically, these things are in there somewhere, but it's really unfair to assign any group of traits, fetishes etc. ALL furries. That's not to say that people won't do it; we as humans are always more comfortable if we can tag, label and file everything and everyone into categories. Me, I consider myself part of the fandom, yet I'm not into therianthropy, bestiality, plushophilia or fursuit sex. I like furry porn and pretty un-fetishy human-on-human sex.
@FILTERSGODAMNIT One last thing on suits: There is, or was, a fursuit sex porn paysite, that was not run by anyone in the fandom. They use(d) mascot suits, heavily modified. I've never met anyone who actually paid to go there, though I looked at the front page years ago. It actually looked pretty silly and more than a little bit creepy. About ten or so private invite-only parties per con times eight furcons and I've never seen fursuit sex, or even anything approximating an orgy of any kind.
this is funny stuff, but im guessing were here forever until some kind of mutant invasion! but eh, plus there is a difference between yiff and furries, there is, furries are like the people who use to watch those robinhood disney movies and all, no harm, until a quarter turns yiff and call us a bad name, also heres a good idea as well, humans have dont exactly the same and worse, so stop bitching all of you (and im not crazy enough to go in a fur suit btw, im not that kind)
I'm not sure if four people huddled under and overhang out of the rain constitutes a raid, especially when they seem to be having just as much a laugh at the furry antics as the furries themselves. But hey, it's a free country. If they want to catch hypothermia in the pursuit of lulz then I'm sure Anonymous will remember them fondly between sessions fapping to goatse and CP.
Useless information #241: The umbrellas they're holding at 1:20 were given to them by Uncle Kage.
who would protest something so adorable and awesome??? furfags... sounds kinda stupid. who was the black guy on the sign? lol you can tell the blond guy with the blury hand is pro fur!!!! YAY FURRY FANDOM!!!!!
Wow this was over two years ago and your guys are still feeding the troll. I found this funny and I'm a furry. Honestly, there is no reason to trip balls. And I'll say this: My ass wouldn't be out in the rain for something so trivial. This can be easily ignored. I'd point and laugh instead of making a shit fit about it :v
@pr0stsh0cker if you go to an event and you happen to see a United States Marine walking your way in full gear, its probably a sign to move along.... oh and btw than marine is me...
@pr0stsh0cker trust me man, i would if i could....... so if you decide to go to one of those things, let me know.... sounds like you wanted a full on fist fight.... well the only thing to do as a past time at the base is fighting and wrestling, as well as tactical maneuvers, although you are probably a troll so i am most likely feeding you this shit
@Cocklaunch Haha! Yeah!!!! no i enlisted and went into Scout Sniping, then going to bootcamp, getting the g.i. bill and going to college so i can become an officer in the corps... why?
@Cocklaunch haha! No it wouldnt be! hey man, you are actually pretty funny with the stuff you come up with! and i respect that, you arent like those others, who strike up stuff just for the fun of it... you actually add humor into it, so i get a laugh from it aswell as you do... but the only "fursuit" i own is my digi's, charlies, etc.... i dont know if you have viewed my profile but in the bg of it, i am wearing my dads gear(u.s. army) he is an EOD, just in case you were wonderin...
@MrKawiman94 REAL americans accept people for who they are so how bought you get out of america and die in the first three seconds of war because your not on the american side
@Notebookstudios i dont know whos side you are on in this conversation, but i do fight on the american side... i cant wait to kill some hajjis... but im talking about the haters in this video, they just need to move on and talk shit about something else... possibly talk shit about al queda? i think we can all agree on that
Protesters really have no life if your standing their all day or whatever *shakes head* Pitiful
Misserableme 3 weeks ago
Protesters: "FURRIES HAVE NO LIFE" -stands in rain protesting- <------FAIL
Disco32er 1 month ago
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lol wow, im a furry and in anonymous. :)
mitch4942 2 months ago
"yiff in hell furfags" I take that as kind of kinky.
bobslayer1881 3 months ago
LMFAO 1:37 is the best fursiut ever XD
BenjiiKuumaku 4 months ago
how do the furries in the US bring aids???? and not all of them are nerds... i know quite a few furrys that are in afganistan right now...
BenjiiKuumaku 4 months ago
this just goes to prove that trolls have nothing better to do than go and stand in the rain.
RedtailFox1 4 months ago
@RedtailFox1 this just goes to prove that furries have nothing better to do than get baited by nearly four year old troll videos.
pr0stsh0cker 4 months ago
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are these protesters retarded or something, they have no idea what they're talking about, furries are the best damn thing in this world, for every hater there's at least a thousand furries to counter act them. trolls fail. and every year hunderds of furries join the fandom, so just shut the fuck up and leave us alone,
acezeman07 5 months ago
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acezeman07 5 months ago
YIFF IN HELL
Dumbmajor9696 6 months ago
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TheAntiFurParty 6 months ago
@TheAntiFurParty replying for posterity. Enjoy having your comment on the top of this video forever.
pr0stsh0cker 6 months ago
@pr0stsh0cker Oh really?
TheAntiFurParty 6 months ago
LOL they wasted a whole four days standing in the rain for this? lol LAME xD fur haters as so pathetic!
Furries rule!
WolfWhoStandsInWater 6 months ago 2
I would have come to that protest. And carried my "yiff in hell" sign proudly. Even if I believe their going to Niflheim to be tortured in Nastrond so as to reincarnate into cockroaches and dung beetles and don't actually believe in "hell."
RagnarLodbrok6 7 months ago
protesters, wow really......this is the first time ive ever seen a protest about a furry con and furries
ArticSkyWolf 7 months ago
Protesters are funny
they dont exaclty know hot to get lulz right
you get it by not trying
waiting in the rain, holding signs for long times, and denying Kages lies, is too much effort
my recomandation
thye should just stand there
madshot101 8 months ago
Should've brought a few grenades to chuck in there. Furries are the lowest form of life on the planet.
JesusDiedROFL 8 months ago
furry haters suck :P they cant do anything o stop furries, frries r awsome
tugashark21 8 months ago
@tugashark21 Oh, but the A.F.P. can. We have documented plans that should demote the furry fandom down to a bare minimal in the next 12-14 years.
TheAntiFurParty 6 months ago
furry haters suck :P they cant do anything o stop furries
tugashark21 8 months ago
tl;dr
NubeAndNuber 9 months ago
@NubeAndNuber too short; didn't care
pr0stsh0cker 9 months ago
Every time I bring it up, furries get mad at me, but I always have a laugh at furry spirituality.
TheSugarCheetah 10 months ago
Wait, wut? You guys actually took the time out of your day to stand there in the rain... holding protest signs... because of furries? Wow OK. What a waste of time, but whatever gets you off...
LoveDoujinshi 10 months ago
Oh, yes, and... I've been to about 8 furcons already. Sure, a few guys stink, but you find unwashed creeps at sci-fi and fantasy cons, anime cons, renfairs, anywhere of that sort. But I've never smelled "shit & piss", "musk" (the cologne or the real stuff? Muskrat? Muskox?) or "astroglide" (does lube even HAVE a smell?), nor heard "animalistic grunting". OH NOES, look, creepy stuff goes on at furry cons! Don't actually go to one and see for yourself! Just trust me!" LULZ Prost. You crack me up.
JonasClark 11 months ago
Rule number one: take the furry fandom, everyone in it, and everyone talking about it with a grain, nay a bucket of salt. "Furry" as a term encompasses a large collection of loosely-knit groups who think it means different things. Some of 'em are unwashed, fugly freaks. Some aren't. And--
...wait, why am I even doing this? Prost has a fursona/character, and he's essentially a troll, albeit a funny one. But then, really, over half the people who troll the fandom are IN the fandom themselves.
JonasClark 11 months ago
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pr0stsh0cker 11 months ago
@pr0stsh0cker LOL. "Prost the maget has a posse!" Someone was postin' your awesome stickers all over RainFurrest last year.
JonasClark 11 months ago
Doing it wrong.
Wolfie123123 11 months ago
Woodbury where are your gods now? The Woodbury sim in SL has been demolished,and i'm one of those who were supplying the Lindens with info on it mostly being all Patriotic Nigras at the sim.
axelfox980 11 months ago
Do you even know how much money the anthrocon brings into the community during the few days it takes place? Lets see... "In 2008, the convention contributed more than $3 million to the local economy." Source: Anthrocon 2010 "modern stone-age furries" brochure
So how does this work exactly, you protest for people that help the economy to leave? So pittsburgh would have had $3 million less if the anthrocon didn't go on there. Restaurants even customize their menus for the anthrocon!
rs4life2 1 year ago
Lets see, theres over 5,000 people at Anthrocon every single year. And there's 7 or so protestors? AND they were foolish enough that they didnt bring umbrellas, and had to use the ones given to them by Uncle Kage? Doen't make much sense to me. Wasting time and money to come to Anthrocon just to get chased away by us furries. Honestly, if I was there I wouldve clapped for the protestors for being so brilliant. I'm guessing they would like an EPIC with a side of that FAIL.
funnykittenz1 1 year ago
If I was there, I would have bought you guys cake or something to help motivate our brave troops taking on this abomination.
Diggler277 1 year ago
they also lack to mention that the furries held up umbrellas for them
xomanowar42 1 year ago
i don't get why there is so much hate against people wearing costumes....if they want to let them...
laddy333 1 year ago 2
@laddy333
Well, furry is often an umbrella of groups that identify as furry specifically for the communal acceptance that community presents. In that way, their fandom hardly has any sort of common sense or acceptable social conduct. The only times you actually see furries self-regulate themselves is when they criticize cases of bestiality and pedophilia when the media finds out or if someone is arrested. On top of that, they demand you accept them as if they were persecuted jews or gays.
pr0stsh0cker 1 year ago 3
@laddy333 Because they think it's funny. These guys think anything that involves put-downs and mocking is a riot. I don't get it, myself. The term is 'troll'. Trolling usually amounts to the equivalent of, "Hey, if I poke this guy with a stick enough times, he gets really mad! Haha, what an idiot. Isn't this awesome?"
JonasClark 11 months ago
hey, how bout you come up here to seattle and raid em'
darkelite709 1 year ago
WELCOME TO THE MINDFUCK!
18Tarma 1 year ago
Impressive, trolls actually showing thier faces, hats off to you.
Alexc3217 1 year ago
@Alexc3217 you don't see furfags showing there face.
failtolawl 1 year ago
@failtolawl
YES!!
thedeliverytruck 1 year ago
@failtolawl Oh touche!
Although some furries consider the animal face to be thier actual face... those ones are weird. Like Rorschach in watchmen.
Although if they did show thier face, they're not really furries.
Alexc3217 1 year ago
heh heh heh......that's quite the documentation you have in the description there.....
killthemwithfirelol 1 year ago
Hate is just ones lack of intelligence, breed together by the incestuous love your father had for his sister. Whats funny is hearing people rant and protest about furries, and similar nonesuches, because i wonder how much of a narcissist do you have to be, to even create the slightest thought that the 6 billion people on earth could possibly give a damn about what you have to say. Its time to be big girls and boys and move forward with our lives.
Soccercick010 1 year ago 2
@Soccercick010 "6 billion people on earth could possibly give a damn about what you have to say"
You're right, 6 billion people on earth couldn't possibly give a damn about what you have to say.
pr0stsh0cker 1 year ago
@pr0stsh0cker You're right, The only one i am talking to is you. Not to mention i do not prefer to stand in the rain wearing a hippe afro.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
"hate is just ones lack of intelligence"
that sentence implies that you have serious shortcomings in the area.Then again you are a furfag.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Your statements prove to rely on assumption, arrogant presumptions. Thus proving my point further. Your distaste is formed by your inability to reason, causing you to lash out at what isn't present in your tiny ideology. Behold the self righteousness of white trash, origin of rancorous doctrine.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
You talk about presumption when in reality my single judgement formed out of nothing more than reasoning.
Then you turn around and accuse me of things far worse than the single one I threw at you.And these accusations are based on "assumption , arrogant presumptions".
It's as if you said that just to make what you said next completely ironic.
Then again you are a furfag.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Please good sir, Lay out your upmost educated reasons in which you feel compelled to hinder that which does not concern your life style. There must be a deep set meaning for the rooted disdain, correct? Then again, trash will always be trash.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
And how am I hindering anything here?
You do know that the so called "furry fandom" is a group based above all else on sexual attraction to people with animal characteristics/actual animals?
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT "Your statements prove to rely on assumption, arrogant presumptions" Precisely why i have stated this before. The furry fandom was constructed to further the interest of anthropomorphics. Among those who take part commonly appreciate sci-fi and fantasy as well. As for the more mature aspect, rule 34. Sexual content exists for all the mind could conceive. However you may not judge a majority for a minority's action. If so that would be a definite presumption.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
Except they aren't presumptions at all. It's plain and clear that the furry fandom is largely about sex.How you can call that part of the fandom a minority is beyond me.It's sheer Ignorance and delusion.
They invented their own word for "fuck".For christ's sake.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I am sorry, but i was never invited to the meeting in which furries would devise the word yiff. In truth, it is a minority. Being part of the fandom, i have had exposure to furry at its very basis. It's crass depiction to insist you hold truth without the slightest experience. assumption to the finest detail. I am a Furry and yet i do not fit your generalization, nor the furs i have come to know.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
Oh,so because you are a furry and you claim the group that you hang around with isn't into yiff that means that this is the case in every other furry community and the group as a whole and I must be wrong and am speaking out of ignorance?
Did you know that if you type in "furries" to google images,autocomplete will suggest "sexuality" and "in heat" on the end of that?That is because they are the most popular search terms.
And way to address my point about "yiff" existing.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT lol, of course it exists, like i said rule 34, buddy. Compared to an accusation outside the subject, yes you are wrong. It's call prejudice mentality. In the end i would never force feed my beliefs onto another but to live in ignorance would be a most uneducated bliss filled with narcissistic thought. Thought that one may accumulate knowledge without experience.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
wow are you trying to ignore everything i have been throwing at you are you so absorbed into the fandom you need any criticism explained to you?
Since you don't seem to get it.The very fact that furries have invented their own word for sex and fuckery shows that they do indeed have a strong taste for it.
buttsecks is clearly highly popular in the furry club. You must be in denial.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT You do seem to exhibit a lack of knowledge for the fact, yiff's actually meaning is hello. It was later given a more obscene connotation. Such is found within the english language: jack-ass, bitch, ect. I acknowledge the presence of sensual behaviors, but once more, small minority.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
and who gave it that connotation,hmm?
Can't have been furries since the sexual aspect is suuuuch a small part of it. Strange how it's caught on like that.,huh?
It's pretty interesting how you've ignored everything I've said that prove most furries love sexy time insted of trying to disprove anything.
I guess ignorance is cruise control for victory.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT You make no sense what so ever. I have told you several times i know it exists, rule 34, rule 34, rule 34. You keep rambling about nothingness, sounding like a broken record. It doesn't matter what i say to you because your arrogance is your high. Your thoughts are seated on such a high pedestal you may conceive no wrong. I have brought you my knowings and you discern. You have a a lot to learn about life.
Soccercick010 1 year ago
@Soccercick010
what a coincidence! i was thinking the same thing.
Of course it exists,but you deny how massively connected it is to the fandom.And what do you have to prove it? Oh yes,you are a furry. you just know.
Which of course gives you a ticket to ignore away my reasoning and evidence because you're obviously right.
I guess ignorance is cruise control for victory.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 1 year ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT "Yiff" is a subjective term, really. Asking a furry if he's "into yiff" is like asking a college guy if he's "into sex". It's just word-substitution. I'm into furry stuff and I go to cons, but it doesn't define me as a person - I'm a human, not a furry critter trapped in a human's body or a werewolf or whatever other crap people claim. And I don't "yiff", I fuck. "Yiff" also tends to imply sluttiness - I'll stick to one person, thanks.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark Are you trying to exempt yourself from my definition of furry in the quest for social acceptance?
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I'm not interested in "social acceptance". I don't consider it enough of a characteristic of me to think it's worth telling random people. I just think "your mileage may vary" - the fandom is a mashup of people who all put different things into it and get different things out of it. It's hard to categorize it properly because of this, but calling furries abnormal freaks is funny and satisfies peoples' need to place everything/everyone in tidy categories. In the end I don't care.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark In the end furries are still high in their population of sick fucks. As varied as it may be it still harbors these things and in great number.
Furry fandom is weird and attracts weird people.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yes, there's a "sick fuck" category in the fandom, and they think the fandom makes a good cover, but the NON-"sick fucks" in the fandom still know who they are and stay the hell away from them. They're the ones wandering around alone at cons, and sleeping in the lobby because no one will let 'em into their rooms. All I'm saying is, there are multiple categories that make up the fandom, and to assume that the majority of them are fucked-up is a disservice to the ones who aren't.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark But to assume that the majority are fucked up is completely warranted when unfiltered results for a google image search of "furry art" are mainly porn.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT One of the big reasons for that is that furry porn is more shocking than furry non-porn, so it gets reposted a lot by the great "anonymous" aka the "internet hate machine". Furries tend toward being realkly thin-skinned and many of them are really touchy, so they're easy to troll. There's loads of G-rated furry art out there - it just doesn't attract a lot of attention because it isn't "freaky"; it's easily written off as simply cartoon drawings.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark but the reason it's at the top is likely because it's the most popular.
Since it's safe to assume furries are the ones who look at furry porn. That means that lots of furries like porn way more than what they would have people believe.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I remember reading a blog post from an artist who was approached by whoever was writing the Vanity Fair "Pleasures of the Fur" article from '01. They wanted to use very fetish-heavy piece of his. He told them that he drew little of that, and let them look through a large portfolio of tamer art which was his usual subject matter. They politely declined, and told him they did not want "tame" art because it didn't help support the "fetish freaks" angle they were intending.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark That doesn't have anything to do with google turning up the most popular results. Or me and many others basing their views entirely on what they have seen of furries online.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I won't dispute your right to your opinion. But I'll say that at least 40% of the furry fandom LOVES trolling the furry fandom. Much of the bad rep comes from trolls who ARE furries. At least 30% of the rest of the fandom explode at the slightest touch, so trolling them is easy. Prost's faux protest, was actually pretty funny - a few trolls consider causing a known depressive person to commit suicide by way of endless hounding, taunting and harassment to be a badge of honor.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark Seems like you are ignoring the search results. Even in a search for just "furry" porn is quick to show itself.
Unless you are claiming furry trolls actively create and plant furry porn for the purpose of ruining their reputation I can't see how they would twist the image of furries.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I put "furry" into Google Images. Of the first 100 images on the list, 10 are pornographic or pin-up artwork, 7 are prank images (mostly of the "demotivational poster" variety), 18 are G-rated artwork. About 12 are photos of fursuits; approximately half are shots of suiters at cons, and half are photos of the weirdest and creepiest suits out there. And yes, there are always a handful of creepy ones at cons. The rest is "Super Furry Animals" images and random unrelated stuff.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark You left out the content that wan't furry, but yes there it isn't all over the place. "Furry art" is still the winrar for churning out porn however.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Okay, searched "furry art" (in quotes). First 100 matches. Of them, I see 18 that are nude or pornographic, and an additional 18 that I'd call pin-ups and involve swimsuits or unusual clothing but aren't swexually suggestive. The trent visibly continues at about this same level of saturation down the page.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark remove the quotes.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Removed the quotes. Count was the same. In fact, 95% of the pictures were the same, all the way down the page.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark I guess safe search is either on or you are lying.
The results are similar in Bing and dogpile.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I don't use safe search, on anything. Shall I do a screen-grab of the search and mail it to you, or what?
One way or another, are you really prepared to accept what "the internet" and Google Images paint as the picture of the fandom? I'm IN the fandom, I love to laugh at its bad side, and I just don't get it. But, like I said, you have every right to your opinion.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark u srs, man?
I think it's pretty strange that your search didn't receive much porn while mine did.
As fantastic it would be that I've been looking at furry porn and google's results are specifically dealing more porn to me than a furry. That's pretty unlikely when several other search engines also deal loads of furry porn when searching for "furry" and "art".
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I dunno what to tell you. I don't doubt that you get what you get. I'm just saying what *I* get when I search those terms, with safe search turned off. But again I say: don't get web searches and the general "opinion of the internet" be your guide.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark it is a mystery.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I don't necessarily disagree with your "furries adore porn" argument; only the apparent decision to base your opinion on the opinion of the notoriously nasty 'anonymous' and the often lopsided view of 'whatever shows up in Google Images'.
Furries aren't bad if you pick 'em right, like any social group. Furry CONS aren't bad if you understand you'll see some 'wierd' stuff; know you *won't* see anything really disgusting unless you find G-rated fursuits horrifying.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark This clearly isn't working,so I'll be honest for a change.
I agree. Furries aren't all sex crazed failures like the trolling might have you believe. Sometimes it's accurate, but you can't make that generalization on such a diverse and vaguely defined idea.
The most irksome about the fandom,Is their reaction to criticism. They are often very sensitive and their arguments are either weak, misinformed or ignorant. Peoples views on furries stem a lot from personal experience with them.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I couldn't agree more. My opinion: About 30% of the entire furry fandom are ridiculously thin-skinned. About 30% of the fandom are trolls, who actively troll non-furries, give the fandom a bad name, enjoy both immensely, and are still furries. These two groups overlap in the middle, making furries who troll and then scream "fursecution" (I hate that term) when someone trolls them back. Last but not least, about 15% of the fandom fit ALL the bad stereotypes.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark yes, that seems about right.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT It's unfortunate that in any organized group, from serious (politics, religion) to less so (furries), it's the minor number of crazy, wacko and/or trolling types that people remember and then assume are the average of that group. With furries, they're not, but the trolls love giving it bad press, which is essentially mass trolling: instead of pissing off one guy for their amusement, they can piss off a whole group. Me, I don't 'get' the appeal or the supposed 'fun' of trolling.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark I think offline the furry fandom is judged mainly on it's fursuiting. That concept is probably what most people associate the most with furry.
But I also think that there are far more "crazy, wacko" people in the fandom than you give it credit for. It steps into the realms of otherkinism and things like therianthopy. It harbors all manner of strange ideas.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Interesting that you mention otherkin, thereianthropes etc. The majority of both I've seen despise 'furries' and the fandom, even though many of them cling to its fringes. I think the average furries thought to be impostors/fakes, as opposed to "real" were-creatures (most claim to 'shift' only in soul or spirit) or 'real' animals-in-human-bodies. They're thought to be obsessed with conventions, drawings etc. whereas these guys think of it as a deep, spiritual thing.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark It seems to be different levels of the same vague concept. I think otherkin could be thought of as "hardcore" furries or something.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT People assume fursuits are for sex/are fetish gear. Neither I nor anyone I know has seen fursuit sex; I've seen one photo of a suit with a sheath. MY fursuit isn't full-body, just a head, tail, paws and street clothes, the head is lightweight and has a jaw that opens when I speak and a little cooling fan, and yet it still gets warm enough that doing anything strenuous in it would be a bad idea. As it stands, I only wear it for about an hour at a time and only at cons.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark I should think not. Even if all sexual claims about furries were true I don't think they are liable to have their yiff orgies in public view.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I haven't seen a lick of evidence that furries tend have big orgies at all. Yeah, there are a fair few really promiscuous furries, but they still seem to prefer one partner at a time. I mean, I'm sure some furries somewhere have had multi-person sex fests, but non-furries have had 'em too. And I'd think of otherkin as "hardcore furries", except that otherkin are usually clear that it's the other way around to them, that furries are "poser/wanna-be otherkin".
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark that's probably because it's a seekrit.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT LOL. Thanks, I really needed that laugh. That seems to be the opinion that's generated the first time furry-despisers go to a big con and do some exploring. "Furries are worse than I thought! I can't find any horrors! They must be so bad, they're hiding 'em from the outsider!" Yes, there are creeps at cons sometimes. There are creeps at anime, comic book, fantasy and sci-fi cons and ren faires, too.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark "Furries are worse than I thought! I can't find any horrors! They must be so bad, they're hiding 'em from the outsider!"
i see no problem with that logic
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I do, having been in the fandom. The really gross furries NEVER care whether their bad side shows; they don't care about much. The trolls try to show as much of the bad stuff as possible. And much of the rest of the fandom HAS no disgusting side to show unless you think of walking around in fursuits disgusting, and that's not hidden. I've been to eight big cons, countless little ones and hundreds of parties. There ARE no deep dark secrets they carefully work to hide. None.
JonasClark 11 months ago 2
@JonasClark i see
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@JonasClark
This. people like Uncle Kage say that Furry Fandom isn't about secks. Why not get Uncle Kage on TV to represent the fandom? He could better represent it than people like Chewfox who got banned for libeling the fandom.
axelfox980 11 months ago
@axelfox980 There is no "ban from the fandom". The Fandom is a loose organization at best, a mass of barely-connected groups at worst. There have been a few interviews with nicer furries, but they don't net attention because they're not shocking. The bad ones make news. But even the furries that furries themselves hate, like Ross Reddick AKA Sibe, can't be 'kicked out of the fandom' - they can be banned from conventions, but cons are not run by any big, cohesive One Furry Order.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark
No,i mean she was banned from Furaffinity. sorry if i didn't make myself clear.
axelfox980 11 months ago
@axelfox980 Ahh, yeah, okay.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT You come to a con and it's not like people go, "Oh, crap, an OUTSIDER, hide the moonshine, the Cuban cigars and the Super-Secret Furry Secrets!" Anyone can go get a badge at a big con, work their way into the gathering, and see everything there is to see. Hey, if you're polite and friendly, you can even talk your way into the closed-door room parties and watch people mixing drinks, socializing and looking through furry art...behind closed doors! Ooooh, seeeecret...
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark but "furry art" is a secret codeword for "pornography"
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT ...and? At a furcon, at least half of the art for sale is porn. But this means approximately half of it isn't porn. It's not a "secret codeword". It sounds like we sidle up to the dealer's otherwise empty tables and whisper, "Show me the... furry art..." and they enter the code in the safe and pull out the dirty stuff. Besides that, why then are there G-rating-only furry art sites...? Yeah there's loads of porn in the fandom. How much porn is in the anime fandom...?
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark
"why then are there G-rating-only furry art sites?"
to confuse outsiders
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT 99% of the internet knows about furry porn - what is there to hide? Anyone who wants to know what furries are like, go to one of the larger cons, FC in San Jose or AC in Philly, get a membership and walk around - they'll see the good, the bad and the ugly all in one place. Do you really, honestly think that we have this database of real, true furries, and when an outsider gets a badge at a con, we all know and go rushing around to make things pretty?
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark yes
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Do you honestly believe that we have this elaborate ruse going, or are you pulling my leg? And, if the former, what are we hiding? EVERYONE knows about furry porn. Nomadic tribes in Africa probably know about furry porn. What exactly is there to hide? There are a number of furry artists who are well-known in the fandom and don't draw anything pornographic. NONE of the furry art I've commissioned is X-rated, in fact I like the G-rated stuff more BECAUSE I can hang it up.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark Yes I am pulling your leg. But I think there is some truth to the idea.
For instance Fur Affinity filters out mature and adult content, and it's impossible to turn these filters off if you are a guest.
Of course that doesn't mean it's some secret conspiracy to better their reputation, but I have heard some people say that if you turn the filters off and simply brows though the images there are an awful lot of dongs.
And yes it was a furry that said that.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yeah, that's 100% true, but the idea isn't so much to "hide it from outsiders" as it is to make sure the site is G-rated unless you click the "I am of proper legal age to view this stuff" button. (We all know there's no real way to know, but it covers one's legal ass). Everyone knows furry art is about 60% porn. So is about 60% of anime art. But the fandom, really, is what you make of it, what you put into it, and what you take away. It's up to us to make and see what we want.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark Yeah, I know that's the more likely reason.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT No one in the fandom really wants kids accessing the stuff by accident. There are also not all that many furries who really *demand* to be considered 'normal' - the ones who are outspoken usually simply want to NOT be considered scum-of-the-earth all because of their hobby of the furry fandom. 'Course, most of the people who call furries scum are the trolls, the same people who're trying to convince others that furries are scum - and all that work for a few laughs??
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark I goto FARANK dot com, and see that the top 100 most trafficked, favourited and watched (and probably top 1000) artists are all porn artists and i just laff. I'm sorry, hearing "furries don't care about porn" has as much truth to it as "The Queen doesn't poop"
It's pmuch a fetish brah
Everyone peanut butthurt and u jelly sandwich since 1886. 20 years later and still fetish.
pr0stsh0cker 11 months ago
@pr0stsh0cker Thing about the fandom is that many different people like different aspects of it. There are quite a few furries who don't look at or draw porn, but about 75% of furry art is porn and about 75% of the fandom enjoys it. You seem to enjoy being able to slam the stamp of "FETISH" on the entire group, but while it applies to most, it doesn't apply to all. And I've never heard anyone claim that "furries don't care about porn", that's patently bullshit. I'd laugh at anyone who said it.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@pr0stsh0cker But then, isn't that the way trolls work? Trolling can be defined, in most cases, by "Hey, look, if I call these guys freaks/screw around with them/poke them with a really sharp stick enough times, they get mad! Isn't that a riot?" Me, I just don't really 'get' why trolling is apparently so incredibly worth the time just for chuckles. But then, I'm not of the 'easily amused' persuasion.
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark "the ones who are outspoken usually simply want to NOT be considered scum-of-the-earth"
Although I can't recall them, I have encountered many who are offended by far lesser, and sometimes trivial, things.
"most of the people who call furries scum are the trolls"
The hate comes more from haters than actual trolls. You can't blame all the hate on trolls because that's being unrealistic when you consider all the weird stuff that the label "furry" tends to harbor.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I don't really think of trolls as any "better" simply because they don't believe their own hate. And most of the stuff in the fandom that's considered weird is, in my opinion, not all that messed-up. Porn? 60% of the internet is porn, who cares? Fursuits? It's just people in costumes, who cares? Furry art? It's just drawings, who cares? But the trolling is what brings the hate by saying, "Look! These people do this stuff! Isn't that horrible?? C'mon, this is sick thit, people!!"
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark I think not. There are people who genuinely don't like furries . It doesn't seem logical to blame a group of people who operate entirely for their personal sense of lulz for furries' bad reputation when there is another group that is genuine in it's beliefs. Not to mention there are plenty of furries who give the label a far worse name than any troll or hater.
And I should make note, that although certain things aren't 'in' the fandom.The fandom does tend to harbor some weird stuff.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT But what begins certain peoples' dislike of the fandom? Most of the (I admit) bad stuff some furries do has had only two pushes into the mainstream: trolls, and the few magazine articles which were intended from square one (even admitted by the writers) to portray furries as *only* a deviant and twisted sexual fetish. Besides those two things, 90% of the world wouldn't hear about 'em. Both the trolls and the articles intentionally aim for, "Look! OVER HERE!" Isn't this awful??"
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark So it would seem media portrayal is actually a far bigger factor than trolls.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 11 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I think both are an issue but, yes, media is a problem. The three or four major articles that have been written have all been approached from the angle of "Juicy, titillating stories sell well. Furries are kinda weord and have a sexual aspect. So we'll focus on their sexual side to the point of painting them as a nothing but twisted sexual deviants, and we'll sell a lot of magazines"
JonasClark 11 months ago
@JonasClark that's true, but there is no denying that sexuality is big part of the fandom. Google Insights has some rather interesting search statistics relating to it.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yeah it is, but, so what? Sexuality is a huge part of the anime fandom in the US, too. Who cares? Or, more importantly (because some people have a sort of "outrage complex" where they search for things to get angry over) who SHOULD care?
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark furries are the ones who care the most it seems. You are one of the rare exceptions who hasn't said that only a tiny percent of furs have an interest in the sexual side of the fandom.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT The ones who claim that sex is only a small part of the fandom are, I'm quite certain, trying to do damage control in the aftermath of three magazine articles that have claimed the fandom is nothing BUT sex, and really twisted, screwed-up sex at that (and, as I've said, all three didn't *discover* this in the fandom - they started with "Let's make this article as titillating and scandalous as possible, discuss only the fetishy stuff, and it'll sell loads of copies").
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark "The ones who claim that sex is only a small part of the fandom are, I'm quite certain, trying to do damage control in the aftermath of three magazine articles that have claimed the fandom is nothing BUT sex"
I learn more the side of it being pure delusion.
" "Let's make this article as titillating and scandalous as possible, discuss only the fetishy stuff, and it'll sell loads of copies""
But there's no denying it's the most striking feature of the fandom.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Doesn't matter. The magazine articles diswcussed the fandom as though it was the one and only side and, further, that ALL furries are into either fursuit sex, plushie sex, and/or besitality. Which is patently not true, all of it.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark it's certainly a trend
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT It's not a "trend". The fandom is made up of many little splinter groups barely holding onto one umbrella. To assume, or claim, that the fandom HAS a united front or that more than half of the people who call themselves furries are into fursuit sex, plushophilia or bestiality is, frankly, laughable. I'm right in the thick of it, and I personally know 'furries' ranging from really sensible, level-headed people to crazy, fetishy crackpots with thin skins. There is no "trend".
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark are you denying there is no connection among fursuit sex, plushophilia, bestiality, misanthropy, therianthropy and the referring to ones self as a furry?
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT I am not. I am saying that these things: (1) are not fetishes common to all or most furries, (2) do not define the fandom and (3) are, in fact, small parts of it. Fursuit sex is, AFAIK, almost impossible - it's too easy to overheat in a fursuit. Bestiality: in my experience, the average furry has zero interest in nonsentient, quadrupedal critters.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark They may not be a part of the fandom, but these are traits that accumulate alongside it.
Also we have to consider that many people in the fandom who do have an interest in some of the more unpleasent things furries are known for aren't likely to openly admit to liking these things.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT True and true. And, unfortunately, the public's perception of the fandom, magazine articles aside, will probably always be based on the fandom's weirdest members, and the members who shout about their crziness the loudest. A small handful of bad apples may not ruin the bunch, but it certainly puts others off from it. And as said before, I think at LEAST 30% of the fandom consists of furries who love to troll furries, scream 'fursecution' and generally get bad attention, for fun.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Therianthropy is a bit of a splinter sect; plenty of mainstream furries think of themselves as connected to animals, but more in the sort of way that the Chinese zodiac ascribes animal traits to personalities and vice-versa. Most people who call themselves therians or shifters disdain or even hate the fandom and the people in it, it seems considering them "fake" or "pretending to be animal-connected". Therianthropes generally stick to their own and don't ID as furry.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark Yes, I've heard therianthropes generally separate themselves from the fandom.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT As far as I can tell, the biggest complaint from therians/weres about furries in general seems to be a notion that furries are somehow fakes, pretenders, wanna-bes, whereas therians have a "real" animal connection. Again, as with furries, I can't and won't paint them with a broad brush, it's an unfair move. Most furries are not zoophiles - and from what I've seen, most zoophiles aren't much into furry stuff.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark i've heard furries say they have a "real" animal connection.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Oh yeah, many of them DO say and think that. I'm just saying that the general feeling I get from many therianthrope types is that "furries" are a knock-off or fake of the "real thing", that is to say, therians/weres/etc. It all comes down to this: IN the fandom itself, it is what you put into it, and what you take away. Enjoy the parts of it you like, ignore the parts you don't, and try not to be a dick or dumbass. That's my across-the-board "how to be a furry" advice.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark Therianthropes are likely to be viewed by as furries by outsiders regardless.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Yeah, they are. My mom works for a coming-out support group, and one mom was less concerned about her son coming out as gay than she was about a "furry group" he joined - which involved running around naked in the woods, pretending to be wolves, and coming home covered in scratches and bug bites. This was apparently local, but no local fur I've ever spoken to have heard of anyone doing that, much less locally.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@JonasClark yeah this sort of thing is probably why they get bad attention.
FILTERSGODAMNIT 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT It is also partly because the public in general loves "juicy", scandalous stuff. Sad thing is, I think many people get zoophiles and furries mixed up by way of having only a rudimentary understanding of what furries are. The local group I mentioned - I asked again, and it's u8nclear whether they called themselves furries or whether it was the closest thing she could find on Google - it sounds like a therian group, though all therians I've met only claim to "shift" in spirit.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT Basically, these things are in there somewhere, but it's really unfair to assign any group of traits, fetishes etc. ALL furries. That's not to say that people won't do it; we as humans are always more comfortable if we can tag, label and file everything and everyone into categories. Me, I consider myself part of the fandom, yet I'm not into therianthropy, bestiality, plushophilia or fursuit sex. I like furry porn and pretty un-fetishy human-on-human sex.
JonasClark 10 months ago
@FILTERSGODAMNIT One last thing on suits: There is, or was, a fursuit sex porn paysite, that was not run by anyone in the fandom. They use(d) mascot suits, heavily modified. I've never met anyone who actually paid to go there, though I looked at the front page years ago. It actually looked pretty silly and more than a little bit creepy. About ten or so private invite-only parties per con times eight furcons and I've never seen fursuit sex, or even anything approximating an orgy of any kind.
JonasClark 11 months ago
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife and hide yo husband
'Cuz we're rapin ev'rybody out here
We don't have to come and confess
You're lookin for us
You gon' find us
You gon' find us
unbrokenjack 1 year ago
this is funny stuff, but im guessing were here forever until some kind of mutant invasion! but eh, plus there is a difference between yiff and furries, there is, furries are like the people who use to watch those robinhood disney movies and all, no harm, until a quarter turns yiff and call us a bad name, also heres a good idea as well, humans have dont exactly the same and worse, so stop bitching all of you (and im not crazy enough to go in a fur suit btw, im not that kind)
UndeadDragonWarrior 1 year ago
I'm not sure if four people huddled under and overhang out of the rain constitutes a raid, especially when they seem to be having just as much a laugh at the furry antics as the furries themselves. But hey, it's a free country. If they want to catch hypothermia in the pursuit of lulz then I'm sure Anonymous will remember them fondly between sessions fapping to goatse and CP.
Useless information #241: The umbrellas they're holding at 1:20 were given to them by Uncle Kage.
Melanth89 1 year ago 4
@Melanth89 Actually the umbrellas were given to us by the girl at 1:14
pr0stsh0cker 1 year ago
who would protest something so adorable and awesome??? furfags... sounds kinda stupid. who was the black guy on the sign? lol you can tell the blond guy with the blury hand is pro fur!!!! YAY FURRY FANDOM!!!!!
Vampyreroseanime 1 year ago
At 1:20..Wow, the pavement looks great! We don't have such here :D
Poor sport players though, I heard they had troubles because of this.
Naba008 1 year ago
Could've been a little more affective if you had ... like... a 100 more protestants as well as some bodyguards to fend off the fur faggotry.
TheMudDragon 1 year ago
Wow this was over two years ago and your guys are still feeding the troll. I found this funny and I'm a furry. Honestly, there is no reason to trip balls. And I'll say this: My ass wouldn't be out in the rain for something so trivial. This can be easily ignored. I'd point and laugh instead of making a shit fit about it :v
ShardOfFire 1 year ago
@ShardOfFire like asspained moths to a flame
pr0stsh0cker 1 year ago
@pr0stsh0cker if you go to an event and you happen to see a United States Marine walking your way in full gear, its probably a sign to move along.... oh and btw than marine is me...
MrKawiman94 1 year ago
@MrKawiman94 say that 2 my face fucker not online see wat happens.
pr0stsh0cker 1 year ago
@pr0stsh0cker trust me man, i would if i could....... so if you decide to go to one of those things, let me know.... sounds like you wanted a full on fist fight.... well the only thing to do as a past time at the base is fighting and wrestling, as well as tactical maneuvers, although you are probably a troll so i am most likely feeding you this shit
MrKawiman94 1 year ago
@MrKawiman94
So you're a barber for the marines right?
Cocklaunch 1 year ago
@Cocklaunch Haha! Yeah!!!! no i enlisted and went into Scout Sniping, then going to bootcamp, getting the g.i. bill and going to college so i can become an officer in the corps... why?
MrKawiman94 1 year ago
@MrKawiman94
Because a fursuit wouldn't be very good camouflage.
Cocklaunch 1 year ago
@Cocklaunch haha! No it wouldnt be! hey man, you are actually pretty funny with the stuff you come up with! and i respect that, you arent like those others, who strike up stuff just for the fun of it... you actually add humor into it, so i get a laugh from it aswell as you do... but the only "fursuit" i own is my digi's, charlies, etc.... i dont know if you have viewed my profile but in the bg of it, i am wearing my dads gear(u.s. army) he is an EOD, just in case you were wonderin...
MrKawiman94 1 year ago
@MrKawiman94
Kill some furniggers for me
Cocklaunch 1 year ago
@Cocklaunch havent heard that word before, is it a fur or hater? i honestly dont know
MrKawiman94 1 year ago
@MrKawiman94 REAL americans accept people for who they are so how bought you get out of america and die in the first three seconds of war because your not on the american side
Notebookstudios 1 year ago
@Notebookstudios i dont know whos side you are on in this conversation, but i do fight on the american side... i cant wait to kill some hajjis... but im talking about the haters in this video, they just need to move on and talk shit about something else... possibly talk shit about al queda? i think we can all agree on that
MrKawiman94 1 year ago