bullshit real song is on awesome as fuck (live) this song has wrong tempo,wrong chords and real song is like 4 minutes long so big fuck you cause i really wanted find that studio version
The end sounds like a song by The Network lol. I've heard that before, the end part, but in a full song. Shit...years ago...now I'm mad cause I recognize it really badly but can't think of where from ARG *shakes fists*
Stupid recording studio thieves I really wanted To hear this album oh well the thing is if the tapes weren't stolen then American idiot Mabey wouldn't excist and well it was a great album like dookie,1039smoothed,nimrod warning and the rest
@nam4lenh how can you say american idiot is the greatest green day album?? have you not heard all the previous ones! i mean c'mon dookie, nimrod, warning, kerplunk! and so forth!
Not mixed my ass. They mixed it. Or Rerecorded it. Or someone got the tracks, mixed them, sold the album, made a shit load of money, got sued, now he's the guy outside your house saying "Can I get some money?"
no they replaced american idiot for it because they thought cigarettes and valentines wasn't stolen they just didn't really thought it was good enough so they started over with american idiot
it was on the wikipedia page for cigarettes & valentines. i know that anyone can edit wikipedia & it can be a lie & stuff so i'm not a 100% sure but this song does sound like them, you can clearly hear billie's voice.
& even if they left the album behind, it doesnt mean they forgot it completely. they often play old & forgotten songs for soundchecks.
haha u re not really smart are you, how can u steal a tape from green day they sure have a back up but they scraped the album because they didn't liked it and the second song is called spike from the network
you really believe that???? come on be realistic they didn't liked the album enough so they started with american idiot thats why it took so long between warning and american idiot lot of songs from c and v are now songs for the network and foxboro hot tubs
Green Day has said like in 10 different interviews that they did cigarettes and valentines and left the studio for the day and came back the next day and the mixtapes were gone. The next day Mike got to the studio early and wrote a 30 second song (nobody likes you) and then Billie and Tre added to it. They said "hey this is funny like a rock opera" then Billie's like hey this is what we should be doing. THATS how they started american idiot.
@xXxbloodybarbiexXx i belive you, but i don't belive them ;) who would steal mixtapes except from any member of the band that didn't like it but didn't have the guts to say? well that's how i see it. and they still say they are not the network.... little liars =D
next year heart like a handgrenade will be published, fnally, maybe there are more hints ;)
i heard rumors on the net that green day did not like the way the songs turned out and so they invented the story of the theft of the tracks, so as to increase interest in them. but this is only something i read once - i never found this source again, probably its not true, i dont believe it anyway
i dont think thats true. from what i know, the record was stolen and so they rerecorded it but the rerecorded tracks just weren't as good as the original so they scrapped it completely and started fresh and ended up with AMERICAN IDIOT. (thank god it was stolen, haha!).
i dont think Green Day are the kind of people who will lie just to create hype.
oh, they would. i don't care though, because AI was amazing. and plus, i'm pretty sure cigarettes and valentine is money money 2020, which was released in 2003 by the network.
i guess you're right. they sometimes like to make up things to sound crazier :P like them claiming not to be the network! that's what i love about them!
but i still think cigarettes & valentines existed.
wow, cigarettes & valentines is money money 2020... i never thought of that! but those songs sound nothing like Green Day, they're all new wave and techno-ey.
oh & BJ claims claims they were both different albums (but he also claims they're not the network so...). & apparently in Aug for a soundcheck, they played the title song titles "cigarettes and valentines".
this mystery will never be solved but it sure is interesting to think about :)
come on!!! green day probably let this one go, probably don't remember the songs, and it isn't what about today, that was one of the songs they didnt put in 1039 smoothed out slappy hours"!!!!
Yeah, they've been playing the title track from the stolen album recently, during sound checks... I can only hope this means we might see the record drop sometime in the future.
@nam4lenh Yeah. I barely like American Idiot.. Haha I am in love with Kerplunk and Insomniac. I dont have 1039 smoothed out slappy hours yet because cant find it anywhere except online but if I have to I'll order it online haha. Whoever thinks American Idiot is their best album they are just thinking that because they know NOTHING about old Green Day. Old Green Day is like freaking...just the best. They are my favorite band. ;D
@randomOVERrandomness i think american idiot is their best album and i have listened to all their stuff =D i like the old stuff but American Idiot is the best for me (:
yea thats right. too bad nobody got a hold of proper footage that night.
im not sure about the first one, but the second one was released to the Idiot Club in 2004 via phone message, it is called What About Today (the name is normally confused with a different 1989 Demo who's name escapes me).
Hope this shines in some clarity. I'll do a little research on the first song.
apparently the security were really strict about filming (like, even more strict than usual), and told everyone who was there that they would get kicked out if they saw them filming anything =/
this almost kinda sounds disturbing, in 2 ways: 1, the quality is so bad it sounds like it must of been recorded using a microphone held up to a stereo system of some sort, and 2, the quality also makes it sound so bad, i'm waiting for a phone call telling me i'm going to die in 7 days. so these beg 1 question: where did you get this anyway? Because as bad as it sounds, it does sound real.
it's very unlikely to be the first version of cigarettes and valentines
paleontologojv 1 month ago
This is Mother Mary by The Foxboro Hottubs......
kreza1 2 months ago
i thought they re recorded it?
NirvanaNerd364 6 months ago
This isn't the real album. It's stolen and it was never found. If this is real, then how did you get it?
rockliveson69 7 months ago
@rockliveson69 see the comment
nam4lenh 7 months ago
@nam4lenh no description available... good comment.
rockliveson69 5 months ago
@rockliveson69 yeah this is green day
nam4lenh 5 months ago
It was a whole album lost not just one song, they were bound to record or play a few of em,
jinxatthelibrary 7 months ago
Hey man , the end is apart of MoneyMoney2020
barbocovers 8 months ago
bullshit real song is on awesome as fuck (live) this song has wrong tempo,wrong chords and real song is like 4 minutes long so big fuck you cause i really wanted find that studio version
thexdreamonx 10 months ago
@thexdreamonx fuck you stupid man
this is the stolen version
version in aaf is the live version
nam4lenh 9 months ago
This is nothing like cigarettes and valentines, Green Day released the real song on the internet, this is not it.
ManTheBattlestations 10 months ago
what the heck is this?
whoatemycow 1 year ago
Looks like letterbomb??!
barbocovers 1 year ago
what the fuck is this?
MusicalCoDGuy 1 year ago
This isnt it, haha they've even played it live at a few recent shows haahhh
TheLynch100 1 year ago
i never saw this on GDA
3ace13 1 year ago
This isnt it
Its either a recording from when they first started, or it's and unreleased Network song. And thanks for letting us know you stole their album!
xdsliteps3x 1 year ago
Fake and gay.
AndyScreamsshow 1 year ago
@AndyScreamsshow this is the real song - you 're gay
nam4lenh 1 year ago
@nam4lenh no its not the real song
mulleh07 1 year ago
@nam4lenh still sure it is the real song?
JoostVanKommer 11 months ago
@JoostVanKommer yes
nam4lenh 11 months ago
@nam4lenh no sir, this is not that song
chanceprice11 8 months ago
@JoostVanKommer then you must be pretty dumb since the real song is already released smarthead
JoostVanKommer 11 months ago
The end sounds like a song by The Network lol. I've heard that before, the end part, but in a full song. Shit...years ago...now I'm mad cause I recognize it really badly but can't think of where from ARG *shakes fists*
FinksEntourage 1 year ago
off wt album is this?
LariGirl245 1 year ago
GOT THE FULL LYRICS VIDEO TO 'CIGARETTES & VALENTINES' ON MY PAGE.
MediaFramed 1 year ago
if u want green day to release this album then add "green days stolen album" on facebook
Greenday11094 1 year ago
They just played Ciggarettes and Valentines twice at the Denver show and it was a pretty good song. I liked it a lot.
TheDarkJoker144 1 year ago
From the album cigarettes and valentines that was stolen.. hence came american idiot.
StaciAnne71 1 year ago
can you send me the whole alumb
TheXLTE 1 year ago
isnt the last song one from then etwork ? it sounds so cool! does anyone know the name ?
lukas28ytb 1 year ago
0:56 sounds like a part in St. Jimmy. I think it is the same chords
Julle7Julius 1 year ago
Stupid recording studio thieves I really wanted To hear this album oh well the thing is if the tapes weren't stolen then American idiot Mabey wouldn't excist and well it was a great album like dookie,1039smoothed,nimrod warning and the rest
CookieNinja021 1 year ago
billie jke has cinfirmed they are re doing it...
number1sfgiantsfan 1 year ago
@number1sfgiantsfan when???
HashiLaxTennisXC 1 year ago
@HashiLaxTennisXC YA don't believe me anymore, some little girl on wikipedia spammed it saying they were. It would be nice though...
number1sfgiantsfan 1 year ago
@number1sfgiantsfan yeah no kidding! i wish.. :(
HashiLaxTennisXC 1 year ago
Somewhere Billie or Mike admitted backups were made but they wanted to start fresh.
melovescooters 1 year ago
Is this the one they did for a soundcheck in California??
TFIIB 1 year ago
@nam4lenh how can you say american idiot is the greatest green day album?? have you not heard all the previous ones! i mean c'mon dookie, nimrod, warning, kerplunk! and so forth!
shup132 1 year ago
@shup132 I didn't say that-i like nimrod the most of green day's album
nam4lenh 1 year ago
Not mixed my ass. They mixed it. Or Rerecorded it. Or someone got the tracks, mixed them, sold the album, made a shit load of money, got sued, now he's the guy outside your house saying "Can I get some money?"
BrandonSpikeFink 1 year ago
I am now making Cigarettes and Valentines using American Idiot
LightYumiko 1 year ago
@LightYumiko lolwut??
TFIIB 1 year ago
@TFIIB Yeah, I'm re-writing the songs on American Idiot and changing them into songs that could have been on Cigarettes And Valentines.
LightYumiko 1 year ago
@LightYumiko Ah, I know what you mean now. Like changing "Wake me up when September Ends" to the original "I'll be there when September Ends".
TFIIB 1 year ago
Great band, but according to these songs they played, this album must have sucked ballz. Good thing they never released it. It's terrible.
jorganbon 1 year ago
@kingdomh2lover
they recorded Cigarettes and Valentines in 2003 and after the tapes were stolen they started to work on American Idiot which came out in 2004.
willster2419 2 years ago
cigarettes and valentines was recorded and stolen way before 2009... i forget which album they replaced it with...warning maybe
read Nobody Likes You it talks about it in there
kingdomh2lover 2 years ago
no they replaced american idiot for it because they thought cigarettes and valentines wasn't stolen they just didn't really thought it was good enough so they started over with american idiot
niekolas 2 years ago
@niekolas it was stolen. Then they said fuck this, make a new album
wizzi0 2 years ago
sounds a bit like blood sex and booze and something else O:
I so want to listen to this album. D: stupid thieves -.-
downtowngirl14 2 years ago 3
intro sounds a bit like letterbomb verse but with a choppy rythem
jtster 2 years ago
yeah
xXbhenzXx 2 years ago
@jtster Yeah it does aswell
rudeboymd 2 years ago
cant be
they left cigarettes and valentines behind them
they would not rerecord it because they didnt really like it
read the biography...
its not even sure if it was stolen actually...
Jadex3x3 2 years ago 8
@ Jadex3x3,
they played it for a soundcheck this year
letterbombxxx 2 years ago
why do you know this so sure ? o.O
Jadex3x3 2 years ago
it was on the wikipedia page for cigarettes & valentines. i know that anyone can edit wikipedia & it can be a lie & stuff so i'm not a 100% sure but this song does sound like them, you can clearly hear billie's voice.
& even if they left the album behind, it doesnt mean they forgot it completely. they often play old & forgotten songs for soundchecks.
letterbombxxx 2 years ago
offcourse not they are a huge band and they have lots of back ups
niekolas 2 years ago
Actually This IS Cigarettes & Valentines, Green Day Recorded It In A Soundcheck In 2009, & The ALbum Was Stolen, Completely!
SystemGreen1002 2 years ago
haha u re not really smart are you, how can u steal a tape from green day they sure have a back up but they scraped the album because they didn't liked it and the second song is called spike from the network
niekolas 2 years ago
wow, they went into the recording studio, backed up the songs oto a record, delted the files from the computer, then left with the record
SystemGreen1002 2 years ago
you really believe that???? come on be realistic they didn't liked the album enough so they started with american idiot thats why it took so long between warning and american idiot lot of songs from c and v are now songs for the network and foxboro hot tubs
niekolas 2 years ago
@SystemGreen1002 2003, not 2009.
wizzi0 2 years ago
no, they did a SOUND CHECK in "2009"!
SystemGreen1002 2 years ago
They may have *re* recorded it in said soundcheck, but the original was recorded and stolen circa 2003.
wizzi0 2 years ago
@wizzi0 what is circa?
SystemGreen1002 1 year ago
@SystemGreen1002 literally 'around'
wizzi0 1 year ago
@Jadex3x3 But in an interview Billie said it was definatley stolen.. :/
randomOVERrandomness 1 year ago
@Jadex3x3
They have just recently started playing it. Their putting it in their new album coming soon. :o
Junkpunker21 1 year ago
@Junkpunker21 I know :) isn't it amazing?? :))
but anyway, this here is not cigarettes and valentines
but I'm curious about what it really is cause this voice sounds like Billie Joe..^^
Jadex3x3 1 year ago
@Jadex3x3
Green Day has said like in 10 different interviews that they did cigarettes and valentines and left the studio for the day and came back the next day and the mixtapes were gone. The next day Mike got to the studio early and wrote a 30 second song (nobody likes you) and then Billie and Tre added to it. They said "hey this is funny like a rock opera" then Billie's like hey this is what we should be doing. THATS how they started american idiot.
Dont belive me? then ill send u link.
xXxbloodybarbiexXx 1 year ago
@xXxbloodybarbiexXx i belive you, but i don't belive them ;) who would steal mixtapes except from any member of the band that didn't like it but didn't have the guts to say? well that's how i see it. and they still say they are not the network.... little liars =D
next year heart like a handgrenade will be published, fnally, maybe there are more hints ;)
Jadex3x3 1 year ago
@Jadex3x3 then explain why they put cigarettes and valentines on their new album. i mean; it doesnt really sound the same, but still.
gdbilliejoe4evr 11 months ago
i heard rumors on the net that green day did not like the way the songs turned out and so they invented the story of the theft of the tracks, so as to increase interest in them. but this is only something i read once - i never found this source again, probably its not true, i dont believe it anyway
vasorockgirl 2 years ago
@vasorockgirl
i dont think thats true. from what i know, the record was stolen and so they rerecorded it but the rerecorded tracks just weren't as good as the original so they scrapped it completely and started fresh and ended up with AMERICAN IDIOT. (thank god it was stolen, haha!).
i dont think Green Day are the kind of people who will lie just to create hype.
letterbombxxx 2 years ago
oh, they would. i don't care though, because AI was amazing. and plus, i'm pretty sure cigarettes and valentine is money money 2020, which was released in 2003 by the network.
BigheadEnterprises 2 years ago
@ BigheadEnterprises
i guess you're right. they sometimes like to make up things to sound crazier :P like them claiming not to be the network! that's what i love about them!
but i still think cigarettes & valentines existed.
wow, cigarettes & valentines is money money 2020... i never thought of that! but those songs sound nothing like Green Day, they're all new wave and techno-ey.
letterbombxxx 2 years ago
oh & BJ claims claims they were both different albums (but he also claims they're not the network so...). & apparently in Aug for a soundcheck, they played the title song titles "cigarettes and valentines".
this mystery will never be solved but it sure is interesting to think about :)
letterbombxxx 2 years ago
yeah, but they wouldn't create a new band just to sound the same, now would they? lol
BigheadEnterprises 2 years ago
exactly, so they created a new band & wrote new songs for it. i think,..
letterbombxxx 2 years ago
THIS AINT GREEN DAY!!!!!!!!!
98greendaylover 2 years ago
come on!!! green day probably let this one go, probably don't remember the songs, and it isn't what about today, that was one of the songs they didnt put in 1039 smoothed out slappy hours"!!!!
98greendaylover 2 years ago
no hes using fakes from green day community
DaveDaysJr 2 years ago 2
Yeah, they've been playing the title track from the stolen album recently, during sound checks... I can only hope this means we might see the record drop sometime in the future.
mtlsapu 2 years ago 18
wow is this live or what its a good song
KINJ9 2 years ago
GOD I HOPE SO.
theoriginalemoninja 2 years ago
how can you relese a stolen track?
dragonsruletheworlds 2 years ago
i get it on green day 's fansite
nam4lenh 2 years ago
@nam4lenh Which fansite?? GDA??
TFIIB 1 year ago
@TFIIB Yes
nam4lenh 1 year ago
@nam4lenh Yeah. I barely like American Idiot.. Haha I am in love with Kerplunk and Insomniac. I dont have 1039 smoothed out slappy hours yet because cant find it anywhere except online but if I have to I'll order it online haha. Whoever thinks American Idiot is their best album they are just thinking that because they know NOTHING about old Green Day. Old Green Day is like freaking...just the best. They are my favorite band. ;D
randomOVERrandomness 1 year ago
@randomOVERrandomness i think american idiot is their best album and i have listened to all their stuff =D i like the old stuff but American Idiot is the best for me (:
MassEffectRocks 1 year ago
@MassEffectRocks Well I mean yeah it's a goos cd but not their best work in my opinion.
randomOVERrandomness 1 year ago
@nam4lenh where are the rare songs from what green day cd
TheXLTE 1 year ago
@TheXLTE not from any GD CDs - i get them from greendayauthory
nam4lenh 1 year ago
by re-recording it.
mtlsapu 2 years ago
It's a live track from when they were rehearsing before a show.
JudasPriest82 1 year ago
Where did you get this? The last song sound a lot like Spike by The Network
snatch256 2 years ago
apparently they played cigarettes and valentines at a few sound checks on the USA tour..
greendayxo 2 years ago 3
yea thats right. too bad nobody got a hold of proper footage that night.
im not sure about the first one, but the second one was released to the Idiot Club in 2004 via phone message, it is called What About Today (the name is normally confused with a different 1989 Demo who's name escapes me).
Hope this shines in some clarity. I'll do a little research on the first song.
jinxfink 2 years ago
apparently the security were really strict about filming (like, even more strict than usual), and told everyone who was there that they would get kicked out if they saw them filming anything =/
greendayxo 2 years ago
they played it in san jose, thats the only one i know of
gnrledzep4eva 2 years ago
WHAT THE FUCK?????????????
aberfin999 2 years ago
im not sure bout the first 2 songs but im positive the 3rd one is green day or the network
JesusofPasalaqua 2 years ago
ok crazy
GREENDAY269 2 years ago
this almost kinda sounds disturbing, in 2 ways: 1, the quality is so bad it sounds like it must of been recorded using a microphone held up to a stereo system of some sort, and 2, the quality also makes it sound so bad, i'm waiting for a phone call telling me i'm going to die in 7 days. so these beg 1 question: where did you get this anyway? Because as bad as it sounds, it does sound real.
RebellaBonkers 2 years ago
is this real?
GOOSE933 2 years ago 3