This is a video that American politicians and members of school boards should watch. Nicely done.
Let's hope that humanity can keep both the Ancient Roman fundamentalists and the Abrahamic "space monster god" fundamentalists, from interfering with school classes (except for those subjects being taught in a reasonable manner where they belong, in the History class).
The fact that anyone would need to 'explain' why teaching assorted stories from numerous cultures, religions and historical periods is not an explanation is frankly beyond me...
Whats next I wonder... the 'scientific' explanation for reproduction... you know with the sex, and pregnancy and birth thing.... and just to even things up teach the alternative 'stork' theory of reproduction?
@MumblingMickey Creationism is still being taught in 13 percent of US classrooms. It is deemphasized in an additional 30 percent. We are still educating a large number of people who can't distinguish a myth from a scientific theory.
@LilandraX Well that's pretty much madness... but then again since it will have a very bad effect on the US's ability to carry out science and therefore research this century (in a period dubbed the information age) its pretty obvious that Europe and China will benefit greatly from this lunacy.
Not that I'm saying this is my preferential choice in how new jobs and industry should arise in the rest of the world... but since I'll benefit by it I certainly can't feel too bad about it.
You'll understand here that I'm not supporting the teaching of crazy assed nonsense to kids... but you do realise the rest of the world is watching this... and most are rubbing their hands with glee...
It takes a lot to try persuade a biomed company to set up a research base... it takes less if the US simply can't produce the researchers.
And hey, I'm in an english speaking well educated nation where thankfully we more or less dumped religion over the last decade (for obvious reasons)
Hidden in Our Inspirations and Hidden all over this planet in the Landscaping- God Hid Watermarks and in them He tells things about the past, present and future. I found them and made videos out of some of them. I found the Garden of Eden and I found what happened right before that and it shows pictures of God in them. Please come look and see something really fascinating. God's real and I can prove it. Please help me share this.
I've subscribed in anticipation of more nice videos from you. May I make a small criticism? While I understand the need in some videos to have a script handy, you sounded a bit too much like your were just reading that script.
People like AronRa can sound great reading from a script but most of us end up sounding rather stale doing so. I might suggest using a bullet-point script with points you want to adress but a more loose, conversational adressing of those points.
@stiimuli Thank you. We tried another recording, but Aron said," it sucked worse." He naturally did his voice overs from the start with no problems. I am working on it, and will try different things in the future with with his help. He struggles with patience, but he still helps.
Subkimor 3. "...every bit of it was taught and left up to the children to pick what they believed (sic) true."
Science is not a democratic process. Only theories that undergo rigorous testing survive that is what is taught in science classrooms. Not what people believe may be true.
Subkimor:2. "...both, if not all forms of creationism or evolution should be taught."
There is not enough time in the day to teach the thousands of forms of creationism. Science is vast on its own. No form of creationism has scientific merit or testability.
@ttgator2003 LOL, sorry if I offended your good lady mate, actually now that you mention it, we did have a teacher with this kind oh high childish voice while I was in high school, but that was some time ago, and since most of my pears now smoke - I might have gotten used to women's voices being an octave lower then what would be considered normal. Again, sorry if I offended.
If Kore is based on Ereshkigal, then Kore is the original ruler of the Underworld, and not Hades. Hades would be similar to Nergal, who in time took over the underworld from Ereshkigal, when it attacked her with the help of the other gods.
Not like anyone cares, but it's funny how over time the Goddesses seem to keep getting demoted.
My granny use tell me the story where Dinosaurs and Dragons were racing to the heavens to get a spot. The Dino fell while racing and that's why they are dead and Dragons are in the Eastern horoscope. I thought to myself "very cool story".
What do ancient Greek stories have to do with Intelligent Design?
Clearly Zeus, Hades, and Persephone are all made up characters in fictional Greek stories that never really happened. Not at all like good Christian facts about talking snakes, a man coming from clay, a women coming from a rib, and only producing two male offspring yet somehow are the ancestors of all humans...
I have always loved this Greek myth, and think upon it every year as the seasons change. The idea of humanity being dependent on a hostage exchanged between a Godess and God is a fascinating narrative.
Yet as powerful as I find this story, and as much as it haunts my thoughts, I never felt compelled to pretend it true, or convince others that such a thing would be good to believe.
@OkamsRazer Persephone may predate the Greeks. However she may have been borrowed into the culture and grafted onto Kore the goddess of spring. Kore becomes Persephone after marrying Hades. There is more to the symbolism there in the relationship between death and renewal.
Well this was good however the way Hades was portrayed on this video was very Christianised... Trying to make it an analogy for the Judaic myth of the devil. Which is okay for English people I guess, they are not too familiar with the way Greek think. Greeks and Hellenistic people never had such marked good vs. evil conflict with their Gods. Hades being the bad guy is as much truth as saying that Zeus was the bad guy.
@luciferiexcelsil umm actually I think they chose this because it was a scene of temptation via food of a young girl, the whole premise of the story was a seasonal shift due to magical causes and of course because Darkness (a la Tim Curry) was totally boss in Legend. :)
Other than making a specific point to associate Hades with things underworldly (for ostensibly good reasons, like him being god of the underworld or something..), I'm not so sure that his bad-guy-ness was ever mentioned nor strictly implied by the content of this video. In addition, was there any really opportunity to make this clear from the events of the story without specifically saying, "oh yeah, hades isn't a devil-like guy?"
@luciferiexcelsil That's not entirely true. Typhon was pretty much evil and his conflict with Zeus could be seen as good vs evil. It's not as clear cut as Satan vs Jesus or other examples from the Abraham myths but its pretty close.
I have no idea why this made me laugh so much, It might have something to do with the fact a young child is more intelligent than a large portion of adults in so called developed/civilized countries or it might be that Greek mythology is so much more awesome than any story in the bible.
The Aborinal story looks really...funky.
roxyosox122 1 month ago
Awesome, we need more science teachers like you.
kayak2004 1 month ago
This is a video that American politicians and members of school boards should watch. Nicely done.
Let's hope that humanity can keep both the Ancient Roman fundamentalists and the Abrahamic "space monster god" fundamentalists, from interfering with school classes (except for those subjects being taught in a reasonable manner where they belong, in the History class).
0debug 1 month ago
Nicely done! You also have a very nice voice to listen to. I think your students must really enjoy your lessons! Thanks for posting.
bartonim 1 month ago
The fact that anyone would need to 'explain' why teaching assorted stories from numerous cultures, religions and historical periods is not an explanation is frankly beyond me...
Whats next I wonder... the 'scientific' explanation for reproduction... you know with the sex, and pregnancy and birth thing.... and just to even things up teach the alternative 'stork' theory of reproduction?
MumblingMickey 1 month ago 6
@MumblingMickey Creationism is still being taught in 13 percent of US classrooms. It is deemphasized in an additional 30 percent. We are still educating a large number of people who can't distinguish a myth from a scientific theory.
LilandraX 1 month ago 7
@LilandraX Well that's pretty much madness... but then again since it will have a very bad effect on the US's ability to carry out science and therefore research this century (in a period dubbed the information age) its pretty obvious that Europe and China will benefit greatly from this lunacy.
Not that I'm saying this is my preferential choice in how new jobs and industry should arise in the rest of the world... but since I'll benefit by it I certainly can't feel too bad about it.
MumblingMickey 1 month ago
You'll understand here that I'm not supporting the teaching of crazy assed nonsense to kids... but you do realise the rest of the world is watching this... and most are rubbing their hands with glee...
It takes a lot to try persuade a biomed company to set up a research base... it takes less if the US simply can't produce the researchers.
And hey, I'm in an english speaking well educated nation where thankfully we more or less dumped religion over the last decade (for obvious reasons)
MumblingMickey 1 month ago
Greek and Roman mythology are much more interesting and fun than the mythology of the three monotheistic religions.
Rushlimpballs 1 month ago
aron has a great voice.
ScreamingForClemency 1 month ago 2
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Hidden in Our Inspirations and Hidden all over this planet in the Landscaping- God Hid Watermarks and in them He tells things about the past, present and future. I found them and made videos out of some of them. I found the Garden of Eden and I found what happened right before that and it shows pictures of God in them. Please come look and see something really fascinating. God's real and I can prove it. Please help me share this.
downyourtube 1 month ago
Well done - not only the video, but the way you taught your children.
AlanCFA 1 month ago 4
Q) If the universe is only 6000 years old, how did the light from galaxies billions of light years away reach earth so soon?
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A) God is very impatient.
God didn't want to wait for light, so God made light faster than light.
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Hmmm?
You'd think someone who's existed for ever would have more time.
DaddyOD13 1 month ago
@DaddyOD13 God is faster than light so he carried it over here faster to test our faith. Duh.
hybriddefect 1 month ago
@hybriddefect O rly?
He put dinosaur bones in rock to do the same thing.
Either that, or dinosaurs only lived for a 1000 years or so, ...before the flood ...with Adam & Eve.
It was like "The Flintstones" I think.
DaddyOD13 1 month ago
Nice video, it's a thumbs up from me.
HealthyCabbie 1 month ago
MammaRa!!! I love it, well done!
Had no clue until Aron reared up!
OnTheFritz602 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos 3
I've subscribed in anticipation of more nice videos from you. May I make a small criticism? While I understand the need in some videos to have a script handy, you sounded a bit too much like your were just reading that script.
People like AronRa can sound great reading from a script but most of us end up sounding rather stale doing so. I might suggest using a bullet-point script with points you want to adress but a more loose, conversational adressing of those points.
just a thought =)
stiimuli 1 month ago 3
@stiimuli Thank you. We tried another recording, but Aron said," it sucked worse." He naturally did his voice overs from the start with no problems. I am working on it, and will try different things in the future with with his help. He struggles with patience, but he still helps.
LilandraX 1 month ago 7
Test?
HealthyCabbie 1 month ago
what a lovely video :)
tonybuk70 1 month ago
Subkimor 3. "...every bit of it was taught and left up to the children to pick what they believed (sic) true."
Science is not a democratic process. Only theories that undergo rigorous testing survive that is what is taught in science classrooms. Not what people believe may be true.
LilandraX 1 month ago 3
Subkimor:2. "...both, if not all forms of creationism or evolution should be taught."
There is not enough time in the day to teach the thousands of forms of creationism. Science is vast on its own. No form of creationism has scientific merit or testability.
LilandraX 1 month ago 3
Hahahaha best depiction of Hades ever! Please make more videos, you are wonderful.
FoxholeAtheistOIF 2 months ago
"Legend" =D
Zentz29 2 months ago
Very good to explain this issue to kids. I 'll do the same with mine once He gets older.....I live in TX too...
AguilaTX2011 2 months ago
It was like story time, I love old myths...gonna use this vid in my high school bio class if someone asks why I will never teach creationism
ebaierlipp 2 months ago
Great video... would that be Lilandra Neramani, the Majestrix?
TheTexanCanadian 2 months ago
@TheTexanCanadian Ah! Good job. Even most other comic geeks don't recognize that obscure a reference.
LilandraX 2 months ago
Creationism owned by a third grader with proper education. It doesn't get any better than that. Your kids are very lucky indeed, good job guys!
hellhammerz666 2 months ago 3
awesome job
docwhispr 2 months ago
Nice
sonicase 2 months ago
Well done.
Haroldbeavis1969 2 months ago
I like it ^_^
CathakLinari 2 months ago
There is no way this is a grown woman with 2 kids narrated this video, the voice sounds too much like that of a 6 year old child.
AlucardNoir 2 months ago
@AlucardNoir Theres no way a grown person wrote this statement. People are different and I think she has a beautiful voice.
ttgator2003 2 months ago 2
@ttgator2003 LOL, sorry if I offended your good lady mate, actually now that you mention it, we did have a teacher with this kind oh high childish voice while I was in high school, but that was some time ago, and since most of my pears now smoke - I might have gotten used to women's voices being an octave lower then what would be considered normal. Again, sorry if I offended.
AlucardNoir 2 months ago
4.25 don't mess with Tim Curry.
lewisner 2 months ago
If Kore is based on Ereshkigal, then Kore is the original ruler of the Underworld, and not Hades. Hades would be similar to Nergal, who in time took over the underworld from Ereshkigal, when it attacked her with the help of the other gods.
Not like anyone cares, but it's funny how over time the Goddesses seem to keep getting demoted.
OvertAtheist 2 months ago
Beatuifullly done LilandraX. You are a pleasure to listen to. Subbed.
davidsfriend01 2 months ago
My granny use tell me the story where Dinosaurs and Dragons were racing to the heavens to get a spot. The Dino fell while racing and that's why they are dead and Dragons are in the Eastern horoscope. I thought to myself "very cool story".
FreeeeS 2 months ago
ooh what movie is that
FreeeeS 2 months ago
@FreeeeS The movie is called "Legend" starring Tom Cruise. Early 1980's I think.
Bornonlyonce 2 months ago
This is a really good way to look at the "controversy" good work!
njintau 2 months ago
An excellent post. Good to know that some kids are sharp enough to figure it out at such an early age.
bvwatcher2 2 months ago
Great collection of images, and a well told story.
KarlHeinzofWpg 2 months ago
nice story, u rock!
bennyboii82 2 months ago
A third grader is smart enough to figure out why creationism shouldn't be taught, but someone like Rick Perry isn't..
Well, I guess we now know what grade he didn't make it to.
KOICrowz 2 months ago 14
nice first time out.
MJWHall 2 months ago
Can we just clone you and make you be the mom of every elementary school kid in Texas?
Those poor kids don't know any better, and a lot of them either have parents who believe that nonsense, or don't know enough to correct it.
Education is for teaching children HOW to think, not for indoctrination.
thebigJ1er 2 months ago 3
What do ancient Greek stories have to do with Intelligent Design?
Clearly Zeus, Hades, and Persephone are all made up characters in fictional Greek stories that never really happened. Not at all like good Christian facts about talking snakes, a man coming from clay, a women coming from a rib, and only producing two male offspring yet somehow are the ancestors of all humans...
...it just makes so much more sense, people. :P
UNLebanon 2 months ago 3
Great video! Thank you Mr + Mrs AronRa.
Peterplayingguitar 2 months ago
Congratulations!
aishasbody 2 months ago
Excellent first video. Co grat
aishasbody 2 months ago
I have always loved this Greek myth, and think upon it every year as the seasons change. The idea of humanity being dependent on a hostage exchanged between a Godess and God is a fascinating narrative.
Yet as powerful as I find this story, and as much as it haunts my thoughts, I never felt compelled to pretend it true, or convince others that such a thing would be good to believe.
NemoUtopian 2 months ago
Cool photo of the tree divided into like the 4 seasons.
And super cool video.
Found myself totally forgetting what I was ( multi-tasking ) doing.
PiskieBenWa 2 months ago
brilliant
rollofnickles 2 months ago
The difference is this is a GOOD story & actually makes some kind of sense.
MrLittletomdj 2 months ago
real good first try. i look forward to what comes next
owden18 2 months ago
I do have one question Miss AronRa (heh), why did you use the name Chloe? It was Persephone.
OkamsRazer 2 months ago
@OkamsRazer ...meaning it was always Persephone, no name change. Or was I mistaken on this point?
OkamsRazer 2 months ago
@OkamsRazer Persephone may predate the Greeks. However she may have been borrowed into the culture and grafted onto Kore the goddess of spring. Kore becomes Persephone after marrying Hades. There is more to the symbolism there in the relationship between death and renewal.
LilandraX 2 months ago
@LilandraX
Did you know that David Deutsch used that same Greek myth as his example of what makes good and bad explanations:
watch?v=VuP3NhDu6Hk
zarkoff45 2 months ago
Well this was good however the way Hades was portrayed on this video was very Christianised... Trying to make it an analogy for the Judaic myth of the devil. Which is okay for English people I guess, they are not too familiar with the way Greek think. Greeks and Hellenistic people never had such marked good vs. evil conflict with their Gods. Hades being the bad guy is as much truth as saying that Zeus was the bad guy.
luciferiexcelsil 2 months ago
@luciferiexcelsil umm actually I think they chose this because it was a scene of temptation via food of a young girl, the whole premise of the story was a seasonal shift due to magical causes and of course because Darkness (a la Tim Curry) was totally boss in Legend. :)
OkamsRazer 2 months ago
@OkamsRazer Well to be honest can't understand too well the American accent, my output was towards the scene rather than what she was saying.
luciferiexcelsil 2 months ago
@luciferiexcelsil,
Other than making a specific point to associate Hades with things underworldly (for ostensibly good reasons, like him being god of the underworld or something..), I'm not so sure that his bad-guy-ness was ever mentioned nor strictly implied by the content of this video. In addition, was there any really opportunity to make this clear from the events of the story without specifically saying, "oh yeah, hades isn't a devil-like guy?"
attheveryend 2 months ago
@luciferiexcelsil That's not entirely true. Typhon was pretty much evil and his conflict with Zeus could be seen as good vs evil. It's not as clear cut as Satan vs Jesus or other examples from the Abraham myths but its pretty close.
smof1 2 months ago
I have no idea why this made me laugh so much, It might have something to do with the fact a young child is more intelligent than a large portion of adults in so called developed/civilized countries or it might be that Greek mythology is so much more awesome than any story in the bible.
ronocko 2 months ago
Great Vid :)
undeadmx 2 months ago
Damn, those greeks were pretty creative.
penn919 2 months ago
good vid... :)
fattigbonddrang 2 months ago
You sound like the coolest parents...
rogan71 2 months ago 48
thanks for sharing the knowledge :-)
ThinkerResearcher 2 months ago
Rah, rah, rah, to....well, Mrs. Ra ;) .
I think you did a very good job teaching your children in a diplomatic fashion .
Jaybird196 2 months ago
Good beginning ma'am.
Lookin' forward more vids from ya.
atthetopofmyvoice 2 months ago
Awesome...
Meninx87 2 months ago
Why can't we all just start celebrating Hearth's Warming Eve? Sounds like a good idea to me.
xXJacobBuckXx 2 months ago
"We are all animals my lady!" Tin Curry plays the best monsters ever.
spekonaspek 2 months ago
good start, hope you make more
DemolitionDoc 2 months ago
My wife finally wanted to try her hand at making a video.
AronRa 2 months ago 95
@AronRa sounds like a delightful person
wearestarstuffsagan 2 months ago
@AronRa I remember your wife telling this story when we met. It's simply awesome. :)
TheTruePooka 2 months ago
@AronRa I saw that C0nc0rance favorited this so I checked it out. The voice of Hades was oddly familiar and then I saw your comment. ;)
Holammer 2 months ago
@AronRa great job do a few more!
fewhavestrength 2 months ago