In the end, only one multi-ethnic state including Muslims, Christians and Jews is viable, the "two state solution" is long dead and these negotiations serve no purpose.
@sinekonata Jews have human rights too. "Removing" Israel, as you would have us do, would infringe on said rights, and deepen the global human rights crisis.
I'm not saying remove people (in my perception of how things should work, people should be allowed to go wherever they want), I'm saying remove Israel: it was a pretentious colonialist idea to begin with, and has proven to be a pain in the ass bully since day one.
End Israel, dissolve it, roll back to what Palestine was in 49 British sovereignty aside, and build a new country with whoever wants to go there.
@sinekonata Agreed. Right to transit and stay must be universal.
That "pretentious colonialist idea"? The establishment of Israel was a masterfully executed move on the chess board by the western geopoliticians. This conflict not only achieved legitimacy for western domination/interference in the near east, a beach head into the Arab world if you will, it ensured weapons contracts, oil contracts, another client state... on and on.
I meant "pretentious" to show the state of mind of the allies (western) after the war: "We just won the war, we can do whatever we want so we'll make a country for the jews in one of our colonies..." To me that's a pretty pretentious (as in "fuck the world, we rule!") and colonialist (as in "fuck ppl living there") idea.
About the interests of having an Israel, I so agree with you, and would add that making sure that middle east doesn't fall to Russian socialism was also key.
OH , indirect talks . In the muddle east. huh.? another 3 or 4 yrs of cover for Israels expansion. A way of deflecting attention away from Israels REAL agenda.
Nothing short of a peaceful dismantlement of the this racist cultist criminal parasitic entity called iZraHELL would ever suffice (similar to apartheid South Africa). If peaceful dismantlement is not successful due to opposition of the ZioNAZI cult that invaded Palestine from around the world specially Russia and Poland etc. This Cancerous parasitic entity should be forcefully punished and destroyed. Zionism is a satanic parasitic racist cultist filthy ideology.
Israelis are colonists, period. And the yearly "talk" session is nothing but a propaganda routine to continue to falsely position themselves as the victims.
@EncompassedRunner Israel is grossly biased, hence the problem for the native people of Palestine. If you think this is not fair and balanced reporting you have a miscostrued understanding of the situation and probably require several history lessons. Or you could go back to fox news for your consensus reality.
@educution, "native people of Palestine" = the Jewish people. There were people there before the Jewish people, but those Canaanite people gorups no longer exist. Of living people groups, the Jewish people are the indigenous people of the region of Palestine.
@EncompassedRunner Those Eastern / Central European thugs are a bunch of converts. They're not even religious; They use religion to justify their crimes against the indigenous people of Palestine. They're colonists, plain and simple.
@EncompassedRunner jews are native palestinians too, without a doubt! They seemed to get along fine with their muslim and christian countrymen until the zionists arrived and started blowing shit up. Quit making excuses for ethnic cleansing you degenerate little nazi.
This video errs @1:07, by saying that Israel's building in the disputed area is "contrary to international law" -- not true, that is just an oft-repeated lie.
In the end, only one multi-ethnic state including Muslims, Christians and Jews is viable, the "two state solution" is long dead and these negotiations serve no purpose.
blackiron60 1 year ago
End Israel, it was a failure.
sinekonata 1 year ago 4
@sinekonata Jews have human rights too. "Removing" Israel, as you would have us do, would infringe on said rights, and deepen the global human rights crisis.
Get real or GTFO.
CheeezMaster 1 year ago
@CheeezMaster
I'm not saying remove people (in my perception of how things should work, people should be allowed to go wherever they want), I'm saying remove Israel: it was a pretentious colonialist idea to begin with, and has proven to be a pain in the ass bully since day one.
End Israel, dissolve it, roll back to what Palestine was in 49 British sovereignty aside, and build a new country with whoever wants to go there.
sinekonata 1 year ago
@sinekonata Agreed. Right to transit and stay must be universal.
That "pretentious colonialist idea"? The establishment of Israel was a masterfully executed move on the chess board by the western geopoliticians. This conflict not only achieved legitimacy for western domination/interference in the near east, a beach head into the Arab world if you will, it ensured weapons contracts, oil contracts, another client state... on and on.
CheeezMaster 1 year ago
@CheeezMaster
I meant "pretentious" to show the state of mind of the allies (western) after the war: "We just won the war, we can do whatever we want so we'll make a country for the jews in one of our colonies..." To me that's a pretty pretentious (as in "fuck the world, we rule!") and colonialist (as in "fuck ppl living there") idea.
About the interests of having an Israel, I so agree with you, and would add that making sure that middle east doesn't fall to Russian socialism was also key.
sinekonata 1 year ago
Mahmoud Abbas is a bend-over! in fact he will bend over backwards. Any Palestinian delegation with out the presence of Hamas is useless.
maydayfire 1 year ago
OH , indirect talks . In the muddle east. huh.? another 3 or 4 yrs of cover for Israels expansion. A way of deflecting attention away from Israels REAL agenda.
ANTIDALLARD 1 year ago
Nothing short of a peaceful dismantlement of the this racist cultist criminal parasitic entity called iZraHELL would ever suffice (similar to apartheid South Africa). If peaceful dismantlement is not successful due to opposition of the ZioNAZI cult that invaded Palestine from around the world specially Russia and Poland etc. This Cancerous parasitic entity should be forcefully punished and destroyed. Zionism is a satanic parasitic racist cultist filthy ideology.
iLovePalestineDotCom 1 year ago
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Israelis are colonists, period. And the yearly "talk" session is nothing but a propaganda routine to continue to falsely position themselves as the victims.
nadoop 1 year ago
How does that work? You whisper in Turkey's ear which says what you whispered to Israel?
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
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nadoop 1 year ago 2
The whole purpose of "talks" is for the Israeli leadership to pretend they want peace and to make the Palestinians fight each other.
hamidious 1 year ago 8
this whole video is grossly biased against Israel
EncompassedRunner 1 year ago
@EncompassedRunner Israel is grossly biased, hence the problem for the native people of Palestine. If you think this is not fair and balanced reporting you have a miscostrued understanding of the situation and probably require several history lessons. Or you could go back to fox news for your consensus reality.
educution 1 year ago 3
@educution, "native people of Palestine" = the Jewish people. There were people there before the Jewish people, but those Canaanite people gorups no longer exist. Of living people groups, the Jewish people are the indigenous people of the region of Palestine.
EncompassedRunner 1 year ago
@EncompassedRunner Those Eastern / Central European thugs are a bunch of converts. They're not even religious; They use religion to justify their crimes against the indigenous people of Palestine. They're colonists, plain and simple.
nadoop 1 year ago
@EncompassedRunner jews are native palestinians too, without a doubt! They seemed to get along fine with their muslim and christian countrymen until the zionists arrived and started blowing shit up. Quit making excuses for ethnic cleansing you degenerate little nazi.
educution 1 year ago 7
@EncompassedRunner so is reality.
GorgonLuvs8008135 1 year ago
@EncompassedRunner Israel is a terrorist state, so they're rightly "biased."
nadoop 1 year ago
This video errs @1:07, by saying that Israel's building in the disputed area is "contrary to international law" -- not true, that is just an oft-repeated lie.
EncompassedRunner 1 year ago
@EncompassedRunner the 'disputed area' is Jerusalem, Israel's CAPITAL. Let them build.
peaceluvnwar 1 year ago