Moscow Angered by U.S.-Poland Missle Deal

[rysio92]

HAHA russians are funny, they think that they can have a nuclear weapons in Kaliningrad and nobody can defend of this threat. fuck them all

[thegreendestiny]

Rice, spewing bullshit as usual.

[blitzflame08]

this is why Lech was killed

[hmodywakid]

poland must choose get nuked or live in peace !!!!

[AncutaMerkel]

Enormous respect to the people of Estonia!!. Estonia is a shining example of reaping the benefits of the EU it is expected to join the Eurozone next year and so Estonia should join the Eurozone as soon as possible

[AncutaMerkel]

Russia is collapsing and dying. I cannot believe a former Soviet Republic like Estonia is becoming ever so closer to achieving and economic and technological miracle. Estonia is so far advanced then Russia its just not worth comparing. Estonia is more then 100 years ahead of Russia. God bless the people of Estonia.

[AncutaMerkel]

Fuck off Russia you weak little collapsing shit soviet country. Leave Poland alone cause if you touch Poland the EU will kick Russia's ass. Fuck the Kremlin. Russia is collapsing. Poland has made this choice of hosting the US Missile Shield. That is for the Polish people to decide and no one else. Russia be warned you are on the way to collapse and becoming like Iran.

[barbiedoll535]

She has some knowledge, but still a very little brain.

[dimesoul]

We dont need US we should build our own and commies to the east should be always looked at they always looking to start up a war, like a big rolling dirty disease they are the cancer of the region. We wouldh ave such a properity if it wasnt tfor those pigs, they murderedd generations and ruined more than one nation, dont ever forget the past or you wont have place in the future.

[DPat6590]

Yea but like they said its good to have allies when things get tense. The US and Poland working together is good when you have russia who is trying to get stronger

[Abanamat85]

Thank god that deal is delayed for now. Come on, this isn't about Iran or NK! This is deliberate attempts antagonize Russia. But for WHAT? So US can get the upper hand in middle east? So it can deal with Russia from position of force? This is negligent foreign policy that will only bring more trouble and undermine America's own credibility.

PPL, let go of you hate! WTF? You keep laughing russia up but at same time underestimating it.

[Abanamat85]

If those missiles are placed in the way they were proposed, this will only result in Iran and Syria possessing something the West would really dislike! Venezuela would probably get a large military boost and dictate its own increasingly confrontational foreign policy. After the cold war ended, the west got fat and more greedy. For the health of the world, this has to be in check.

[FreeHeathen]

what you say may indeed be true, but Poland has been under all kinds of threats from Russia not just in the past but present as-well, Poland needs protection from Russia for its own sake

[globfrob]

Long Live Poland!!

[PolishAmericanDC]

Pamiętamy, jak zaciekły syjonista Winston Churchill zdradził Polskę w Teheranie w 1943 roku, a w roku 1944 powiedział Stalinowi, że losy Polski i Polaków mało go obchodzą. Chodziło mu tylko o zachowanie pozorów, o to, by wybory w Polsce znajdującej się pod sowiecką okupacją nie były skandalicznym fałszerstwem, potępionym przez opinię światową i eksponującym zdradę polskiego sojusznika przez jej brytyjskiego sprzymierzeńca.

[matt234pm]

i cant beliece russia got pissed about this. like all the countries in the world are taking procautions because russia is making nuclear missiles and russia hates poland like crazy so there just mad they wont get to nuke it

[FreeHeathen]

very well said

[AncutaMerkel]

@matt234pm Read this Boycott Sochi. You will find information about Russia you probably have not heard before. The information comes from Russian, US and other International experts inside and outside Russia talking about the collapse of Russia and its end of its life. Not by war but by the gross mismanagement of the Kremlin

[vovanpop]

With Ossetia and Abkhazia I too would not advise you to get excited, listen is better that the second party and already proceeding from that speaks that you will hear do conclusions. The slogan - Georgia for the Georgian reminds nothing to you?

[poodtang1]

vovanpop: Isn't Stalin a hero of of "Pushkin". Stalin the most evil bastard besides Hitler. Stalin who also sent millions to camps. Starved millions of Ukranians to death. And more then likely killed his own wife and sent his own daughter to the gulag.

[gutekwroc]

Also now we are another target on terrorists map. I don't think we safer with this system. US promised help in case of military action against Poland. Huh?? We had similar promises from western countries before WW2. They didn't keep their promises.

[vovanpop]

It absolutely agree with you. If not friendly then partner attitudes with neighbours the best protection against any "terrorists" .А so you are protective waistcoat США.А you can sustain a shell intended for example for the USA?

[gutekwroc]

I'm afraid about my home country. I don't think Russia will use their military to attack Poland. They will use economical factor. We need Russian gas and oil. We also sell a lot of different goods to Russia. They can raise prices for natural resources or change their import policy. We can loose billions. Also this missiles don't defend Poland. That's why we wanted Patriots.

[Mikelaren101]

She said: "Its in our defence" SO GO DEFEND YOUR GOD DAM COUNTRY, get out of mine!

[enricmassot]

To sce2aux: It was the USSR that did it, not Russia. On the other hand, USSR saved Poland from anihilation. Hitler's plans were to liquidate all Slavic countries and extend her Lebensrauum on them. Many Polish even helped to kill hundred of thousands democrats and jews motu proprio, as Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Hungarians, Romanians, etc.,did, and of course, millions of Russians. History is a little more complex than simplicity.

[mikolajoskierko]

Russia is a hier of USSR with all of its influences and people, including the ruling group of oligarchs.

On the other hand USSR helped Shitler to win his battle and supported with his genicides, makeing its own by the way. The 'liberation' is not when 'liberators' start to occupy country which they 'liberated'... nothing honest, i only pity those millions of Russians.

There was not a SINGLE Polish unit amongst the axis troops, stop twisteing history.

[vovanpop]

Yes but now be friends with Ushenko which names heroes of the Ukrainian nazis of killed Poles, Russian, Byelorussians, the Jew in thousand

[mikolajoskierko]

Ukraine is independent, i can not like what they praise, but when Russia makes thier gas prices twice bigger in about a week... i see that Russia is not reliable economic partner. Actually, i don`t mind much about Ukraine, unless it`s not controlled by the Russian FEDERATION. Ukraine is nothing to be afraid of.

[vovanpop]

It agree! Russia not the USSR, we do not wish to be empire more. What for? There Is no practical sense. Russian empire and the USSR were unprofitable to Russia the majority of parts of empire, except for the Russia, Baltic, Ukraine, and your Poland in structure of former empire Rossiijskoj always were unprofitable.

[mikolajoskierko]

You might be jokeing, the PART of Poland you had, was giveing about a half of what was earning the rest of Russian 'Empire', Russia is not self-efficient and we all knows that Ukraine alnoe can feed the whole Europe.

I even remember how it was when the Kremlin puppets were reglamenting food, my mother had about 2kg of meet a month to feed herselve and two small kids... we were buying food on black market.

[enricmassot]

To sce2aux:Oh, com'on, you cowboy. Do really think you could invade Russia? Try to succeed in your occupation of Afganistan or Iraq and some other superpowers, and tell another good joke. Great that many Americans have common sense, otherwise those evangelists would drag all us (Europeans for instance) to hell.

[mtpjnk]

what a piece of shit is Poland. You are garbage

[lushlars]

to mtpjnk

here in southern california, we are very proud of helena modjeska. but i doubt you have any idea who she is since trolls don't read or write very well (let alone go to shakespearean productions).

would you care to elaborate further on your unpleasant oratory and lack of affection toward poland? or will you just spit out unintelligible sounds like an animal?

faen, methinks i just fed a troll.

[lushlars]

to faastard154

1st, shooting missiles against other missiles has rarely worked in testing.

2nd, shooting a missile to knock out another missile is like shooting a bullet to disrupt the trajectory of a second bullet. you can call one of the bullets "defensive," but either one will kill you. saying that your offensive weapon is defensive doesn't change the truth.

3rd, i do not recall iran threatening poland.

4th, missiles in poland would be much more effective as a 1st strike against russia.

[SCE2AUX]

"shooting missiles against other missiles has rarely worked in testing."

Which of course precludes them from EVER working right, technology be damned?

"saying that your offensive weapon is defensive doesn't change the truth."

They are simply not capable of offense. What was really offensive were the Pershing missiles deployed to Germany in 1984

You might want to tell the Russians about the futility of ABM's since they have had an ABM defense around Moscow since 1974.

[lushlars]

to sce2aux

abms are not futile. they make great 1st strike weapons. switch warheads and you're good to go.

[SCE2AUX]

Why use a reconfigured ABM when an Ohio-class sub could or a B-2 could do the job a lot quicker and more effectively?

[lushlars]

to sce2aux

it's good to have options.  abms in poland add 1st strike capabilities. overwhelming force is desirable in war.

[SCE2AUX]

What really cracks me up is that Russia is trying to make us believe that IT believes that Poland wants to invade or attack Russia.

[lushlars]

sce2aux.

not poland, the united states. putting missiles in poland, "defensive" or no, allows the united states better chances at overwhelming force for a 1st strike. and we would do it too.

[SCE2AUX]

If we had wanted to, we could have utterly destroyed the USSR between 1945 and 1950. We had a complete monopoly on nuclear bombs. But you honestly think that we would launch an unprovoked strike on Russia just for shits and giggles now? Even then, why use Poland, we could occupy half of Russia in a matter of weeks by invading through the Pacific and the Arctic coasts in conjunction with an EMP strike against Russian communications. We could take Russia down now if we so desired.

[SCE2AUX]

But really, why bother? Russia is in such poor condition that it makes Puerto Rico look like a gold mine.

[lushlars]

we illegally occupy 2 (3, if you count puerto rico) countries. countries that never attacked us nor threatened to attack us; and you ask me, do i "honestly think" we would "launch an unprovoked strike on Russia?" how can i say this? YES!! that's exactly what we would do.

let me ask you, do you honestly believe that the united states wouldn't miss a chance to "stick it" to those communists? you know we would and not think twice about it.

[SCE2AUX]

"we illegally occupy 2 (3, if you count puerto rico) countries." Leftist bullshit that I won't bother refuting, been done before.

"we would "launch an unprovoked strike on Russia?" how can i say this? YES!! that's exactly what we would do."

And I'm sure you also believe that Bush was responsible for 9/11, that Mumia is an innocent victim, that Noam Chomsky is to be admired, and that the USSR would have collapsed anyway no matter what the US did.

[lushlars]

sce2aux

play fair. you are changing the subject. how about answering my question: do you honestly believe that the united states wouldn't miss a chance to "stick it" to those communists?

[SCE2AUX]

Certainly not with a military attack, nuclear or otherwise. Propaganda victories are so much more fun, anyway. They're also more of a challenge for us, since they don't have nearly as extensive a fifth column as we have to deal with in the States.

[lushlars]

sce2aux

i disagree. i have little doubt that the united states would attack russia if it could get away with it. and i believe the missile placement in poland is to that end. to me it seems obvious given the lack of respect we have for international law in this country and our belligerence against many countries that never attacked us nor threatened to attack us.

naturally, we will have different opinions about these so-called "defensive" missiles.

[SCE2AUX]

Russia agreed to divide Poland with Nazi Germany in 1939. I would like to think that we stand by our allies if they are attacked. So let me ask you this question: if Russia attacks Poland, should we respond, or should we do as cj3022 suggests?

[lushlars]

sce2aux

when the soviets attempted to build missiles in cuba, we blockaded cuba. blockades are an act of war.

if it is ok for the united states to commit an act of war to protect its security, then perhaps it is ok for russia to do the same. if one says otherwise, then he is a hypocrite.

the united states should remove its missiles from poland BEFORE russia attacks (or refrain from building them in the first place). as you know, this was how khrushchev prevented ww3.

[SCE2AUX]

That isn't what I ASKED you, is it?

[lushlars]

sce2aux

i guess we could remove the missiles AFTER a russian attack, but what would be the point?

[enricmassot]

To sce2aux: It was the USSR that dis it, not Russia. On the other hand, USSR saved Poland from anihilation. Hitler's plans were to liquidate all Slavic countries and extend her Lebensrauum on them. Many Polish even helped to kill hundred of thousands democrats and jews motu proprio, as Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Hungarians, Romanians, etc., and of course, millions of Russians. History is a little more complex than simplicity.

[enricmassot]

Oh, com'on, you cowboy. Do really think you could invade Russia? Try to succeed in your occupation of Afganistan or Iraq and some other superpowers, and tell another good joke. Great that many Americans have common sense, otherwise those evangelists would drag all us (Europeans for instance) to hell.

[enricmassot]

To faatard154. I agree with you. Only a lunatic would think Iran would have any interest in sriking Poland. Besides, if those missiles were to threaten Berlin, London or Paris, they should be really wicked overflying Poland, turning westward and boom. That's is only anti-Russia nonsense and business, gas included. Why yes to Kosovo and not to South Ossetia and Adzhazia? Bush and Dick business, as usual.

[lushlars]

enricmassot

you sent this msg to me. but you have addressed it to "faatard." i am, therefore, i bit confused.

i do, btw, agree with your sentiments.

[enricmassot]

lushlars, sorry for my mistake. Of course my msg was addressed to you. I found your four points statement really accurate.

[mikolajoskierko]

Dude, are you ok? Rockets can fly in a different directions, but since those are ANTI-rockets you can sleep well. I don`t see a gas in this 'busyness' or anything 'anti-russian', oir maybe you want to tell me that 'anti-russian' is makeing defence systhems?

It`s like soldier saying that helmets of enmyies are 'unfair' becouse it`s harder to shoot them down.

[gutekwroc]

They call them ANTI-MISSILES. What is difference between defense and offense rockets??

Just switch warhead and pick a target. Russia have right to be afraid. I think Poland is the biggest looser in this contest between superpowers.

[mikolajoskierko]

It`s not just "swich warhead", besides anyone can nuke anyone since there are ICBMs and ships/submarines with his destination. Russia is the last country on earth to be afraid of nuclear war.... or first.

[vovanpop]

The territory friendly to you Russia could become you the best protection against any possible rockets and so you had a chance to receive a nuclear attack before the USA, in case of war of the USA with Russia. You againstrockets will force down rockets of Iran above territory of Russia? Think we shall allow, that to us on a head the Iranian rocket fuel flew? Hа! Hа! Hа!

[GeminiAzules]

Missile Defense has been in development and has been going on for years. Not just recently. Check wikipedia :O

[lushlars]

to geminiazules

truly there is no such thing as "missile defense." a missile is, by design, an offensive weapon.

[GeminiAzules]

The description they have given of it so far indicates that its an interceptor missile defense, which would mean that the missiles will be able to intercept missiles. If they are designed for that purpose, even if they were fired at Russia, they would do little or no damage.

[BruceWayne]

USA should have listen to Russia and not proceed with the agreement. But again, Russia is in no position to tell the USA on what to do or what not to do. The good thing now is that the US can use it for 2 purpose. Defending against Rouge states or to defend against Russia.

[blackturtleus]

Just as we didn't allow Russia to place missiles in Cuba, they probably won't allow missiles in Poland. The USA should just back away and stop provoking Russia... it seems that Bush is dead set on messing things up even more before his holiday in the White House is over!

[stan2672]

They already signed that with my country (Czech Republic)...Are you people blind? US and it's EU arm NATO are expanding weapons in preparation of something bigger. BTW, NATO has TODAY announced that they are pulling their ambassadors from RUSSIA. guess what's next.

[poodtang1]

Oh Russia's angry. Too fucking bad Russia.

[vovanpop]

About yes here at us fucker has appeared? Come we shall look who whom and where will make, do not forget to grasp anal gel

[datzfast]

poland is a nato member. bring it on bitches

[datzfast]

the Russian ruble will be worthless. if you stick em up you ass at least you have fiber in you diet.

[lushlars]

bush is determined to start armageddon before he leaves office...

[studio7manga]

Warsaw to Moscow ~900 miles

Warsaw to Tehran ~1900 miles

Hmm...

[trav1971]

who cares they are a sovereign country they have a right to self defense fuck putin

[argentina2oo6]

Yeah, let Putin place some missiles in Cuba, and then tell me what bush says...

[cj3022yugioh]

wow i am an american but im pissed right now...this is gonna cause another frickin cold war...rice and bush are fricking idiots atm...the war between georgia and russia was none of our bussiness...let them fight if they want to ...all this is leading to is another world war..

[SCE2AUX]

Both Poland and Georgia are US allies, you cowardly pissant.

[cj3022yugioh]

rofl do u rely think helping some countries is worth starting world war 3? i dont think so..vietnam , world war 1 , ww2...those are all wars caused by us helping some other ppl

[SCE2AUX]

I don't think stabbing allies in the back is EVER acceptable. Let Russia decide if preventing Poland from having a MISSILE DEFENSE is worth getting destroyed. The US will honor its alliance. If people like yourself showed a bit more character we wouldn't even be in the position of having Russia wonder if the US would stand with Poland.

[crazycatfguy]

People turn off Fox news and educate yourself. Iran is not a threat to anyone. Real power lies with the Supreme leader and a council of Mullahs that have zero tolerance for collateral damage and did not even use chemical weapons on Iraq while they were using them against them. If they don't want a nuclear weapon they are stupid because the US never attacks anyone who can defend themselves.

[ubuibiok]

What a load of crap....Islamic fundamentalist even put out a demand to kill cartoonist. Exterminate the leadership before the stone or hang anymore of there own nonconformist.

"US never attacks anyone who can defend themselves." ...keep believing that and please go move next to there nuclear power plant construction site location.

[crazycatfguy]

There are different sects of Islam just like in Christianity. The second largest population of Jews is in Iran. Why aren't they all dead? Google bush iran swiss. The Supreme leader offered to quit enriching uranium in return for the Bush admin brokering a peace treaty with Israel. Keep believing the infotainment that passes for news in the US.

[USA04July1776]

Great Britain, Japan, Germany, Italy and Iraq comes to mind immediately.

[Jewishfan]

I have no comment on that.

But I suggest to neutralize Iran ASAP.

[FlamDance]

World War 3 is quickly coming..

[atwyatt]

Would somebody in the U.S. government please get George Bush out of office before he starts World War III.

You know if Russia strikes the missile location, Bush will strike back, and that will inevitably start a large-scale conflict.

[crazycatfguy]

McBush will continue the same policies that has caused our dollar to lose half its value against the Euro, hit an all time low against the loonie, and a 30 year low against the pound. 4 more years of this and you will be wiping your ass with dollar bills because they won't buy a roll of toilet paper.

[lushlars]

to stavros

perhaps you didn't get the memo:- dr. king was assassinated in 1968. it is unlikely that he is supporting much at this point.