Improved Figure Four Deadfall - Wilderness Survival Skills

[942doc1]

type on youtube ray mears trap and he has something like this......thx for vid

[942doc1]

at 8 seconds at the most right what kind of knife is that?

[MrMiguelfromhell]

Very cool... I will teach it to my daughter when we are out camping. Awesome website too... Thank you.



[Ornitholestes1]

you are making really great videos! Thank you for uploading.

[farmermarley]

Wow, you make it look so easy! I'm new to this and I spent at least 45 minute making one that didn't work....I gotta keep practicing.

[p4h10oso]

Great tip on the diagonal stick for sensitivity.........best of type I've seen and I've seen plenty. thanks!

[emocircusops]

Wow! I was impressed at the touchiness of it.

[practicalsurvivor]

Great video. Thank you for sharing.

[rokien12]

I made one of these about a year ago and it worked great, but when i came back to check on it the entire bait stick was gone.

[mikeoutdoorsman]

BTW, I don't know why so many people teach figure 4 and pauti trap wrong, probably because they taught themselves or learned from others that never learned the right way.

Always make the slanted horizontal longer so that the rock is not towering over the upright because you don't want the rock reaching and falling on the upright and slowing down the rock.

Another tip is Y stick works great as an upright, makes it more stable.

[mikeoutdoorsman]

You said you showed how little force it took to set it off, but you didn't show it being set off from the side, of course its going to come off easier being pushed down.

It was a great alternative approach to figure 4 trap but I still find figure 4 trap more sensitive especially when you learn one little tip, and that is you shave a small section off the back side under the trigger stick on the upright, so that if an animal pushes down it releases easy, same with any sideways force.

[kaldicuct]

You know, this is the figure 4 i actually learned, i could never get the traditional one to work. but hey, whatever works, thats what survival is about.

[FinalStand25]

Nice Video

[tekknorat]

Very nice instruction. Looking at the old version, the one which works only from one side, it's clear, that this is the optimal way to make F4 traps.

[NewSurvivalSkills]

Check out our Figure Four Trap. It is the worlds Fastest Setting!

[Pagansdad]

Awesome that was a super touchy trap. I always have trouble making the hair trigger.

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Glad you liked it!

[xoxoxoxoLIVE]

This is a great video for a real figure 4

deadfall, maybe the best I have seen. I posted a video response to yours......

Check out my new deadfall..Thanks

[choosechris]

Last night I built this trap for the first time and it took nearly an hour to carve and then re-carve my sticks to get it just right. The concept of this trap is so simple that it may seem unnecessary to practice, but I can attest that building this properly is much tougher than it looks. The placement, shape, and size of the notches as well as the length of the sticks you use all contribute to the success of this trap. Practice, practice, practice.

[powerkebaben]

I did the same trap (before I saw this video) and I got a smallest mouse ever, the stone totally crushed it. The skull bone was flat as a paper lol.

[lildude52ca]

okay i made my figure 4 the same way you did in the video clip. But when i went to test it, to trigger it, it took an extensive amount of force to get the dead fall to.. fall. any idea what i could have done wrong?

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Hard to say without seeking it... but you may want to make a longer trigger stick. If it is too short, there won't be enough leverage to make the trap spring... experiment with it though! That is where the true learning occurs!

[Gunnarsguns]

This really is a great improvement. 2things. If you know you are going to be setting traps cut some material first and let it season a bit. Secondly practice....its one thing to watch a vid or read a book it is another thing to actually do it. Ever make a pauite trap?

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Good points you make! I couldn't agree more... I admittedly have not used this trap to kill anything before but I plan to do so when I feel the time is right. As far as paiutes, I have made a few but haven't experimented with them as much. Thanks for your comments!

[Gunnarsguns]

A book that i cant recomend highly enough...Fur food and survival...by emil r johnson....Trapping is an art and while a hunter may be lucky to feed himself a good trapper can feed the whole camp..Barrel traps,bow traps,shotgun traps,net traps....you name it is in the book.

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Right on! I will be sure to check it out! Thanks!

[Torresfbi1607]

*****

[medicjimr]

Great demonstration and that improved setup looks like it is foolproof thanks for such an imformative video as usual

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Awesome! Glad you liked it! This originally came from Ray Mears... he has tons of great stuff out there... thanks for commenting!

[giutoniolo]

Excellent vid dude! As a matter of fact, not even Ray Mears covered it up as well as you did! 5***** for sure!!! Congratulations!

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words... Ray is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

[theplainsman6]

This is the best design for a deadfall trap I have seen, I am going to try this out on the rabbit that keeps eating my tomatoes. Thanks for another great vid.

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Thanks for commenting! I first learned this from a gentlemen at a primitive skills event, and I think that Ray Mears has covered this version too... enjoy!

[anblink24]

is this design easier to set as well? that was my first thought when i saw the more rectangular plank pieces compared to the typical round twigs used in every other video about fig 4's

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Hey,

Yes, this one is much easier to set in my opinion... thank you!

[cloudmaster2233]

i always have a hard time with figure 4

[SuperAnimalTrappers]

Nice Video I'll try that trap!

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Thanks! Please subscribe and stay tuned!

[sc3773]

coolio.

[chelpydog]

That is cool!! I'm hoping to gather enough info through vids like this so I can go into the woods this summer with a small bag of essentials for a weekend and see if I can survive! I cant wait to try this out!!! thanks a bunch!!!

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Awesome... let me know if you do it, and be careful! The first time I went out, I thought I was way more prepared than I actually was... be sure to have a "walk out" plan in place, and let folks know where to look for you... good luck!

[ReyMysterioRO]

can i keep your PC in case u don't survive? hahahaha joking.

[KonstantinKuehn]

hey paul hows the kabar sheath going?

did u get this idea from ray mears? because i remember seeing him do the same thing in one of his episodes! yeah i gotta try this for sure!

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Hey Konstantin!

It's coming together nicely! I've seen this technique in a few places... Ray Mears included (I love his work!)... I first learned it at a primitive skills event in Michigan... I definitely prefer it over the conventional version.

[CarrieRulesTheBlock]

squish

[bowsmythe]

Nice! been building fig.4's for years, learn something new everyday. sometimes it's hard to split wood in survival situation though.

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Nice! Yeah, I haven't had too much of an issue as long as I have a knife... although I agree it would be a lot tougher with stone tools. I do know of one method for splitting wood primitively... maybe I will do that for a future video!

[wildlifeed]

That setup is the best I have ever seen!! more functional, less margin of error, and idiot proof (speaking personally here, lol). Thanks for the vid, Cheers Ed

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Glad you like it! And yes, if I can do it... it is definitely idiot proof!

Kind regards,

Paul

[4ancientarts]

very nice demo and technique

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Thanks so much!

[beast12101]

excellent guys, perfect execution.

[HedgehogLeatherworks]

Much appreciated!