Orchestral Library Demo

[Permeo]

I can't find the next chapter either. Did they not post it up?

[mrerictbrown]

i cant find the next chapter, is it made yet?

[mradaChris]

This kind of sound sold me on buying the product, however, I cannot get anything to sound that great. I load in midi tracks and can't also get that rich sound like you just showed here.

[Swidhelm]

I don't know how ableton works but the key to making an orchestra sound good is expression. cc11. That way the sounds aren't so static and it gives the legato passages emotion. That and a good reverb or two.

[mradaChris]

cc11? I do use reverb and it doesn't help completely.

[Swidhelm]

controller 11. There are lots of controllers. Do a serch for a list. But 11 (don't use 7 which is volume) will affect velocity. I don't know what ableton can do, but in sonar you can select an area and insert a series of controllers which you can use to affect the velocity of your sample. Which means violins starting soft and crescendo to full velocity. If you have a midi keyboard with a mod wheel the wheel probably effects cc11. But it could be assignable.

[mradaChris]

I don't think Ableton can do this. Or at least I don't know.

[Swidhelm]

It probably can. And I messed up too. cc11 is expression and is great, but mod wheel is cc1. I'd imageine ableton can do it. There'd be no sense in having an orchestra for it if it couldn't, because of the dynamic and expressive nature of orchestral music.

[mradaChris]

I'd be happy to give Ableton a midi file to do all this cool stuff to make it sound good.  I just can't get it to work this well. My stuff always sounds choppy and I cannot get anyone at Ableton to describe how to use these OIC libraries correctly.

[Guolettue]

The key is in the details. Play around with intensities, use different articulations and if you're not playing your own tracks with a keyboard or something like that, be sure to incorporate little imperfections in timing to enhance the feel, otherwise it will feel robotic.

[mradaChris]

Ok. I have done stuff like this. I am using my own tracks and I actually thought about playing with the durations of the notes as no human could exactly perform the notes exactly as written. Since I generate the MIDI files via software, I could also use a Gaussian distribution or other mechanism to vary both intensities and durations. I have tried to get help from Ableton but they are very arrogant. Won't help me even after a year of trying.

chris

[SuperEternalstudent]

@mradaChris you can design your own effects and tweak every aspect of live using max for live. i don't see why the company would help you considering max was done particularly so that people take live in every way imaginable.

[mradaChris]

@SuperEternalstudent Well I am more accustomed to having a primer or user's guide to show me how each part works given I spent a lot of money on the product. Just figuring it out by myself is too time consuming. I don't know what max for live is. I did get help from Ableton but now I have to upgrade to 8.0 because it won't work with my current setup.

[Nygel36]

Fantastic!

[zeHorrNet]

awesome

[spankazoid]

u guys are the best !