I'm searching for information on a condition called pipacytis. I'm sure I'm spelling it wrong. Cant find any info on the internet about it. I'm told it's food related but can't find remedy. Heard about Copper X? Any help or direction to site or corrected spelling would be appreciated greatly. Love your horses! :) You can view my foal on my channel. Mom's a standardbred. Dad's a Tennessee Walker.
ohhh wow ahh well one day it will happen,my mare is 13 and has never had a foal before so i would like it to be soon, only problem is my parents ahhh.
@1holliehorsecrazy1 I remember my first horse as a child. My God father bred his horses so we had foals around. My Mom thought horses big and smelly. The thing is.. when I grew up and left for university, I didn't take my horse with me and guess who ended up taking care of him? My mom wasn't a horse person, but she fed them daily and called the vet to put Prince down when he was unable to get to his feet, remembered my boy loved sweets, bought and fed him his favorite candy bars at the end.
i would love to put my mare in foal and have the experience of raising and bringing up a foal the parelli way :) what a great start to your foals life! thanks for posting!! :)
@1holliehorsecrazy1 It does make such a difference. Mystic is my levels horse (L3 graduates) and he loves me, but the horses I have raised from birth think being with me is the BEST thing. They beg to come out and be ridden. They offer tricks, follow me around the pasture, try to herd me away from Mystic and Tori, bang on the fence if I take another horse, parallel park at liberty for me to get on if they see me climb a fence. They are my equine kids.
Wish I was in the states and could spend time with you.........up to twelve months makes absolute sense and is a natural process. Thanks and good luck.
i have a horse that was just born today on april 1,2011 at 2am in the morning. and we put a halter on him for the first time and took it off him in a 5 minutes or so. and he was excelint. he is really really tall for a new born colt
@myahorning12 Congratulations on your new foal. I'm envious of you and the fun the two of you will have. You are wise to take advantage of his curiosity to teach him to yield to pressure and trust you. Well done!
@kaeso100 I agree. It is common sense to set things up that human interactions resonate with the young horse's nature, appeal to its sense of curiousity and play, build trust and respect, rather than intimidation and confusion. Playing with a young horse this way is common sense and it is also natural horsemanship. Love, language and leadership in equal doses.
@mysticpasos I've got a little colt myself, 5 1/2 months old and pretty unhandled when I got him. Sensitive but bold nature at the same time. 8 months old now and a little darling. He tries his luck now and then, but hey, who doesn't! By reading his body language, energy, judgement and facial expressions and only training when he is in the right state of mind to accept and learn, has made him a pleasure to own. Defo agree with not using intimidation unless absolutely necessary, sometimes it is!
@kaeso100 Colts love to test boundaries and that continues as he gets bigger and stronger. One of my favorite young stud exercises is falling leaf. Walk forward &send your horse in front of you. When it approaches the end of the line, disengage the hind quarters, ask it to move its shoulders over and re-send it. Repeat until the horse wants to move with you. You can do this exercise at a gallop with roll backs changing directions on a 22 foot line with a young stallion, never pulling on him.
@mysticpasos Not quite sure what you mean. Would love if you could point me in the direction of a vid to show it. He had his 1st saddlecloth and surcingle on today, good as gold. Once the ground dries up over here would like to try the 'falling leaf' exercise.....once I'm sure exactly what it is!.... He does follow me around alot already so I'm sure he would love to try it at speed!
@horshooer Thanks again for the compliment. Mystic and I just got back from a Leslie Desmond clinic that blew me away. Like seeing horses in black & white & she suddenly showed me them in color. Amazing. Instead of pressure and release, she just uses feel and release. She showed us how we were blocking the horse's vision by standing near its head or in its blind spot, or blocking its movement by our energy. She co-authored True Horsemanship through Feel with Bill Dorrance. Read it.
@mysticpasos Now your on the right path!! Its not really a big step from pressure to touch... from there it is even a smaller step from touch to voice... then comes voice to whisper... horses hear very well.. thus the horse whisper. :) congrats!!..
@mysticpasos Please.. tell me you know someone that needs a person to clean stalls.. I can work my way up from there.... I'm pushing 53 so I'm old.. but I'm tired of learning to work on boats and outboard motors... horses are my only love...
Yes I am a big believer in Natural Horsemanship and imprinting foals... I have see it done several ways... and this is the best I''ve seen.... wish I could work for you!
@horshooer Thanks a lot for the compliment. Check out the ImagineaHorse web site to see some amazing things Allen's horses happily do as a result of foal imprinting and positive reinforcement. Dr. Miller (who started all the foal imprinting) has endorsed Allen's methods as the best around. I'll never be done learning. I'll just run out of time.
@mysticpasos ahh so true!! You should never get done learning new things about horses!! If you do, just wait.. That next foal will step on your toes with its sharp little foot!!
Thanks. I still own Prince, Kami and Maia, whose photos are in this video. I'll try to post another video this summer showing how they are doing at 5, 4 and 3.
okayy, I love your videos, they tought me things about horses,I love the ideas, really got me connnected with my horse. I am now soo connected with my horses Theo, Guinness, Dan, Dennis, and Lyska. I love your videos keep it upp!!!
@KisaKittyLove Just thought I'd let you know that I took Prince to the Pacific Ocean this month and he is in the short Sept 210 Play Date at Coast video I made of our trip posted under Mysticpasos. The colt did just great. There were things that shook him (kites, surfboards, in coming waves) but he would drift away from danger while still facing it and check in with me. I couldn't ask for more from a young horse.
@KisaKittyLove Not to put you down .. because many people (even horse people) do not know this... While there are many different shades of grey, there are no adult white horses... once in a while a foal is born white... and it comes with what is known as the "lethal white gene" and it does not survive...
Beautiful horses and wonderful training. Although I do agree you should wait a while though before the real training begins. Different foals have different problems and different personalities.
Thanks for commenting. I don't start my horses under saddle until they are 3, but how much easier it is to start a colt if they have this kind of foundation as babies. They are trusting and respectful and know how to follow a feel . With understanding, trust and respect established, horses make wonderful learners and excellent partners. Agree with you about them having different personalities and problems - that is part of what makes this fun.
Thanks. The trust is a big thing, but just as important is teaching them to follow a feel. Its part of their vocabulary, as is puzzling out what I am asking of them and offering a try. You know it is fun for the horse when it comes to you when you call and doesn't want to leave you when you turn it loose at the end of a session.
You know, I imprinted a filly once she became a little pest, always wanting to play lol, but now she´s great roping horse......Seen your vid´s......Really great job!!!!
Thanks for the compliment. It means a lot to me since I've seen your videos and you are clearly a horseman. Your horses say so. Foal imprinting sometimes gets a bad reputation because the foal learns not to be afraid of people, but their owners don't bother to teach the yielding part and the horses become pushy monsters. My horses happily come to me, but will back out of my space if I raise a finger and know that running me over is never an option. I love their curiosity and play drive.
Thank you..as they say down here ...I can tell if you can play pool or not by the way you hold your stick....and you definitely know how to play......Big hug!
:-( Do you teach your baby at birth !? NO, so don't teach baby horse i't's a non sense ! Human should not take this role because he's not a mother for the foal, not the right one. The science of ethology says to leave the foal with mum built their relationship for at least the first 3 weeks...it's just a matter of... respect !
Ah, but prey animals and predators are different. Predator babies are helpless at birth and rely on their mother to protect them. Prey animals get to their feet within an hour of birth, learn in that time to yield to pressure from mom (see photos of Kami on slide show) and what they learn about trust, respect and yielding during those first few hours, they remember for life. You become the trusted leader of their herd, not an alien predator. It is an opportunity not to be missed.
true, i would however give the horse 1 day alone with the mother. its not just an issue of trust that tells the foal who its mother is, its instinctual as a combination of who the horse was birthed from and the first friendly thing it ever sees. but if u already have a relationship with the mother, you should be able to come between like normal around the mother until the foal feels the urge to get back to its mother and to just deal with the human close. next step, foal trusts human in general.
You will do as you choose, of course. I'd suggest that you read Dr. Miller's book on foal imprinting to understand the science. He recently commented that if handling the foal "is not going to be done by people who have studied my method and who understand it, then it is better not to do it at all. Learning is so fast and so lasting in the equine neonatal period that it is essential to do the process correctly. Undesirable behavior can be established as rapidly as desirable behavior. "
okay, i respect that approach. but usually its gonna see people when its being born assisting. i think its essential for a newborn to instinctively know when its being helped. so theres enough of an impression of people to be cautiousness optimistic.
Foal imprinting goes beyond that. You teach the foal that a human can touch all parts of its body and flex its legs & neck. Initially, the foal resists but foals learn so quickly that trust replaces fear. It learns that plastic bags, towels, clippers feel good and won't hurt it, that a human can hold and comfort it. The first session takes about an hour & doesn't interfere with the foal bonding with its mother. I've imprinted all my foals and love the relationship of trust it creates.
nice, im glad i learned something from someone who was to the point, knowledgable and not rude. it sounds like you know what your doing and your horses are cute. :==3
So what you are saying is you would rather let them grow up and get tons of spirit so you can "break" them instead of teaching them? I have 2 arabian Tb foals. we imprinted them both and I think its a much better way to train a foal.
Received by email: I have gotten some harasment about my 9 month old colt...we have been using natural horsemanship with him since day one and now are doing things like learning to lunge in the round pen...we are now able to saddle him. the issue is weight...he has 2x now had a small kid on his back. what are you opinions about what they learn and get over now...verses what we will have to break out of them in 2 or 3 years??????
Do ground work at a walk or trots and canters next to the horse in straight lines. Putting a kid (under 40 pounds) up on a 1-2 year old for them to get used to the idea is OK. It isn't good to do lots of circles at speed with a young horse. Their bones, tendons and ligaments can be damaged. I don't get on my colts until they are 3. If you have done the ground work it will be a non event because he'll trust and respect you and know to yield.
I agree with you and I don't get on my colts until they are 3 and don't ask them to do any stressful work until they are 4. Throwing a small child on a young colt isn't a problem though. The child loves it. The colt learns what a very light human feels like on their back and will be more accepting of an adult getting on its back later. You can also use ground supported by mounted aids for walk, stop and back up so those concepts are introduced. Very short sessions - a few minutes.
Thanks. I love playing with foals. Teaching my babies to yield to finger pressure makes starting them under saddle easy when they grow up. Trust and following my feel are already part of our relationship.
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I'm searching for information on a condition called pipacytis. I'm sure I'm spelling it wrong. Cant find any info on the internet about it. I'm told it's food related but can't find remedy. Heard about Copper X? Any help or direction to site or corrected spelling would be appreciated greatly. Love your horses! :) You can view my foal on my channel. Mom's a standardbred. Dad's a Tennessee Walker.
teresaschihuahuas 5 months ago
ohhh wow ahh well one day it will happen,my mare is 13 and has never had a foal before so i would like it to be soon, only problem is my parents ahhh.
1holliehorsecrazy1 8 months ago
@1holliehorsecrazy1 I remember my first horse as a child. My God father bred his horses so we had foals around. My Mom thought horses big and smelly. The thing is.. when I grew up and left for university, I didn't take my horse with me and guess who ended up taking care of him? My mom wasn't a horse person, but she fed them daily and called the vet to put Prince down when he was unable to get to his feet, remembered my boy loved sweets, bought and fed him his favorite candy bars at the end.
mysticpasos 8 months ago
i would love to put my mare in foal and have the experience of raising and bringing up a foal the parelli way :) what a great start to your foals life! thanks for posting!! :)
1holliehorsecrazy1 8 months ago
@1holliehorsecrazy1 It does make such a difference. Mystic is my levels horse (L3 graduates) and he loves me, but the horses I have raised from birth think being with me is the BEST thing. They beg to come out and be ridden. They offer tricks, follow me around the pasture, try to herd me away from Mystic and Tori, bang on the fence if I take another horse, parallel park at liberty for me to get on if they see me climb a fence. They are my equine kids.
mysticpasos 8 months ago
Wish I was in the states and could spend time with you.........up to twelve months makes absolute sense and is a natural process. Thanks and good luck.
happylistowelraces 8 months ago
i have a horse that was just born today on april 1,2011 at 2am in the morning. and we put a halter on him for the first time and took it off him in a 5 minutes or so. and he was excelint. he is really really tall for a new born colt
myahorning12 10 months ago
@myahorning12 Congratulations on your new foal. I'm envious of you and the fun the two of you will have. You are wise to take advantage of his curiosity to teach him to yield to pressure and trust you. Well done!
mysticpasos 10 months ago
@mysticpasos Thank you and i have been waiting for this day my whole life, well 12 months
myahorning12 10 months ago
I see this as common sense, not necessarily 'natural' horsemanship.
kaeso100 1 year ago
@kaeso100 I agree. It is common sense to set things up that human interactions resonate with the young horse's nature, appeal to its sense of curiousity and play, build trust and respect, rather than intimidation and confusion. Playing with a young horse this way is common sense and it is also natural horsemanship. Love, language and leadership in equal doses.
mysticpasos 1 year ago
@mysticpasos I've got a little colt myself, 5 1/2 months old and pretty unhandled when I got him. Sensitive but bold nature at the same time. 8 months old now and a little darling. He tries his luck now and then, but hey, who doesn't! By reading his body language, energy, judgement and facial expressions and only training when he is in the right state of mind to accept and learn, has made him a pleasure to own. Defo agree with not using intimidation unless absolutely necessary, sometimes it is!
kaeso100 11 months ago
@kaeso100 Colts love to test boundaries and that continues as he gets bigger and stronger. One of my favorite young stud exercises is falling leaf. Walk forward &send your horse in front of you. When it approaches the end of the line, disengage the hind quarters, ask it to move its shoulders over and re-send it. Repeat until the horse wants to move with you. You can do this exercise at a gallop with roll backs changing directions on a 22 foot line with a young stallion, never pulling on him.
mysticpasos 11 months ago
@mysticpasos Not quite sure what you mean. Would love if you could point me in the direction of a vid to show it. He had his 1st saddlecloth and surcingle on today, good as gold. Once the ground dries up over here would like to try the 'falling leaf' exercise.....once I'm sure exactly what it is!.... He does follow me around alot already so I'm sure he would love to try it at speed!
kaeso100 11 months ago
Holy Cats!! you made Level 3+ Parelli ?? most folks here don't know how much work and devotion that takes!! But I do...
horshooer 1 year ago
@horshooer Thanks again for the compliment. Mystic and I just got back from a Leslie Desmond clinic that blew me away. Like seeing horses in black & white & she suddenly showed me them in color. Amazing. Instead of pressure and release, she just uses feel and release. She showed us how we were blocking the horse's vision by standing near its head or in its blind spot, or blocking its movement by our energy. She co-authored True Horsemanship through Feel with Bill Dorrance. Read it.
mysticpasos 1 year ago
@mysticpasos Now your on the right path!! Its not really a big step from pressure to touch... from there it is even a smaller step from touch to voice... then comes voice to whisper... horses hear very well.. thus the horse whisper. :) congrats!!..
horshooer 1 year ago
@mysticpasos Please.. tell me you know someone that needs a person to clean stalls.. I can work my way up from there.... I'm pushing 53 so I'm old.. but I'm tired of learning to work on boats and outboard motors... horses are my only love...
horshooer 11 months ago
Yes I am a big believer in Natural Horsemanship and imprinting foals... I have see it done several ways... and this is the best I''ve seen.... wish I could work for you!
horshooer 1 year ago
@horshooer Thanks a lot for the compliment. Check out the ImagineaHorse web site to see some amazing things Allen's horses happily do as a result of foal imprinting and positive reinforcement. Dr. Miller (who started all the foal imprinting) has endorsed Allen's methods as the best around. I'll never be done learning. I'll just run out of time.
mysticpasos 1 year ago
@mysticpasos ahh so true!! You should never get done learning new things about horses!! If you do, just wait.. That next foal will step on your toes with its sharp little foot!!
horshooer 1 year ago
THATS AN AMAZING VIDEO REALLY ENJOYED IT
beauty101115 1 year ago
gold medal for long wined intros
gerundino98 1 year ago
its adorable hoe you see the horse grow upp <3
KisaKittyLove 1 year ago 2
Thanks. I still own Prince, Kami and Maia, whose photos are in this video. I'll try to post another video this summer showing how they are doing at 5, 4 and 3.
mysticpasos 1 year ago
okayy, I love your videos, they tought me things about horses,I love the ideas, really got me connnected with my horse. I am now soo connected with my horses Theo, Guinness, Dan, Dennis, and Lyska. I love your videos keep it upp!!!
KisaKittyLove 1 year ago
@KisaKittyLove Just thought I'd let you know that I took Prince to the Pacific Ocean this month and he is in the short Sept 210 Play Date at Coast video I made of our trip posted under Mysticpasos. The colt did just great. There were things that shook him (kites, surfboards, in coming waves) but he would drift away from danger while still facing it and check in with me. I couldn't ask for more from a young horse.
mysticpasos 1 year ago
@mysticpasos; thast great, i always wanted a horse of my own, but we live in the city . but atleast i take lessons :) The white horse is pretty :)
KisaKittyLove 1 year ago
@KisaKittyLove Not to put you down .. because many people (even horse people) do not know this... While there are many different shades of grey, there are no adult white horses... once in a while a foal is born white... and it comes with what is known as the "lethal white gene" and it does not survive...
horshooer 1 year ago
@horshooer ;; then the grey horse is adorable :)
KisaKittyLove 1 year ago
Beautiful horses and wonderful training. Although I do agree you should wait a while though before the real training begins. Different foals have different problems and different personalities.
WesternRL 2 years ago
Thanks for commenting. I don't start my horses under saddle until they are 3, but how much easier it is to start a colt if they have this kind of foundation as babies. They are trusting and respectful and know how to follow a feel . With understanding, trust and respect established, horses make wonderful learners and excellent partners. Agree with you about them having different personalities and problems - that is part of what makes this fun.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
So, I love the music for the videos! And the videos too! Where's the music from?
Komajabu 2 years ago
I used youtube's audioswap and selected Dax Johnson's pieces. Listen to them there and choose the one that appeals to you.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
I can see they are well imprinted...No wonder you can work with them at this early age.
ropefast 2 years ago
Thanks. The trust is a big thing, but just as important is teaching them to follow a feel. Its part of their vocabulary, as is puzzling out what I am asking of them and offering a try. You know it is fun for the horse when it comes to you when you call and doesn't want to leave you when you turn it loose at the end of a session.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
You know, I imprinted a filly once she became a little pest, always wanting to play lol, but now she´s great roping horse......Seen your vid´s......Really great job!!!!
ropefast 2 years ago
Thanks for the compliment. It means a lot to me since I've seen your videos and you are clearly a horseman. Your horses say so. Foal imprinting sometimes gets a bad reputation because the foal learns not to be afraid of people, but their owners don't bother to teach the yielding part and the horses become pushy monsters. My horses happily come to me, but will back out of my space if I raise a finger and know that running me over is never an option. I love their curiosity and play drive.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
Thank you..as they say down here ...I can tell if you can play pool or not by the way you hold your stick....and you definitely know how to play......Big hug!
ropefast 2 years ago
simply amazing
wolfstar23 2 years ago
:-( Do you teach your baby at birth !? NO, so don't teach baby horse i't's a non sense ! Human should not take this role because he's not a mother for the foal, not the right one. The science of ethology says to leave the foal with mum built their relationship for at least the first 3 weeks...it's just a matter of... respect !
Roxymusic77 2 years ago
Ah, but prey animals and predators are different. Predator babies are helpless at birth and rely on their mother to protect them. Prey animals get to their feet within an hour of birth, learn in that time to yield to pressure from mom (see photos of Kami on slide show) and what they learn about trust, respect and yielding during those first few hours, they remember for life. You become the trusted leader of their herd, not an alien predator. It is an opportunity not to be missed.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
true, i would however give the horse 1 day alone with the mother. its not just an issue of trust that tells the foal who its mother is, its instinctual as a combination of who the horse was birthed from and the first friendly thing it ever sees. but if u already have a relationship with the mother, you should be able to come between like normal around the mother until the foal feels the urge to get back to its mother and to just deal with the human close. next step, foal trusts human in general.
Pimpmastahanhduece 2 years ago
You will do as you choose, of course. I'd suggest that you read Dr. Miller's book on foal imprinting to understand the science. He recently commented that if handling the foal "is not going to be done by people who have studied my method and who understand it, then it is better not to do it at all. Learning is so fast and so lasting in the equine neonatal period that it is essential to do the process correctly. Undesirable behavior can be established as rapidly as desirable behavior. "
mysticpasos 2 years ago
okay, i respect that approach. but usually its gonna see people when its being born assisting. i think its essential for a newborn to instinctively know when its being helped. so theres enough of an impression of people to be cautiousness optimistic.
Pimpmastahanhduece 2 years ago
Foal imprinting goes beyond that. You teach the foal that a human can touch all parts of its body and flex its legs & neck. Initially, the foal resists but foals learn so quickly that trust replaces fear. It learns that plastic bags, towels, clippers feel good and won't hurt it, that a human can hold and comfort it. The first session takes about an hour & doesn't interfere with the foal bonding with its mother. I've imprinted all my foals and love the relationship of trust it creates.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
nice, im glad i learned something from someone who was to the point, knowledgable and not rude. it sounds like you know what your doing and your horses are cute. :==3
Pimpmastahanhduece 2 years ago
So what you are saying is you would rather let them grow up and get tons of spirit so you can "break" them instead of teaching them? I have 2 arabian Tb foals. we imprinted them both and I think its a much better way to train a foal.
Annemarie68 2 years ago
Received by email: I have gotten some harasment about my 9 month old colt...we have been using natural horsemanship with him since day one and now are doing things like learning to lunge in the round pen...we are now able to saddle him. the issue is weight...he has 2x now had a small kid on his back. what are you opinions about what they learn and get over now...verses what we will have to break out of them in 2 or 3 years??????
mysticpasos 3 years ago
Do ground work at a walk or trots and canters next to the horse in straight lines. Putting a kid (under 40 pounds) up on a 1-2 year old for them to get used to the idea is OK. It isn't good to do lots of circles at speed with a young horse. Their bones, tendons and ligaments can be damaged. I don't get on my colts until they are 3. If you have done the ground work it will be a non event because he'll trust and respect you and know to yield.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
I think that you should wait a couple of months more, 2 year old is very early in my eyes, 3 year old is ok. They have to have a childhood to:(
Plingpling91 2 years ago
I agree with you and I don't get on my colts until they are 3 and don't ask them to do any stressful work until they are 4. Throwing a small child on a young colt isn't a problem though. The child loves it. The colt learns what a very light human feels like on their back and will be more accepting of an adult getting on its back later. You can also use ground supported by mounted aids for walk, stop and back up so those concepts are introduced. Very short sessions - a few minutes.
mysticpasos 2 years ago
Nice video. You truly can commmunicate with horses.
pasofinomama 3 years ago
Thanks. I love playing with foals. Teaching my babies to yield to finger pressure makes starting them under saddle easy when they grow up. Trust and following my feel are already part of our relationship.
mysticpasos 3 years ago
i just love foals!!!!
pintorock101 3 years ago
Love horses!
rinin2 3 years ago
Ohhhh -- how sweet. A very touching video.
RawlFran 4 years ago
Way Kool what you do with foals. How impressive. Too bad all foals can't be started like that.
BlackHatWrangler 4 years ago