looks great but look at all that wasted energy flowing out into the atmosphere. Why don't you capatalise on the energy and hook up multiple tesla tubines in series? In other words: have the output from one turbine running into the input of another turbine? One steam generator runs lots of turbines. Also use the super heated steam to generate HOT WATER for your home and then collect the water at the end and recycle it. Efficiency is the word! GET THE IDEA ; )
@BensPerfect16 Of course, even though I understand things, doesn't mean they won't fly apart faster than I could get out of the way............hence, while doing these runs I hide behind the boiler and out of the plane of rotation of the rotor in case it were to fly off the shaft or break into shrapnel. Anyway, check out my New Steam Turbine videos to get a peek into what's coming down the road.
During these runs, I was hiding behind the boiler in case things flew apart.....so not sure where the dent in head would happen. One thing's clear though, these runs were more power than this turbine could safely be run at.
Sure. But it's more expensive and complicated to develop. Not as environmentally nice either. Using water, there's no pollution possibility and I can shoot steam across the yard, through the turbine and so on without leaks during development being an issue. Also, this way I can get the entire system to work more easily as a Co-Generation system, making both heat and power (electricity) via using the condensor for the steam as part of the hot water reservoir system in recent video posts. rt
@woodfirepower Try a vented brake disc and bearing hub from a car, Your steam would be expelled from the centre of the disc, may make it easier to collect and condense.
I sort of get the wanting to make a turbine like that, but even though they're simple, they're pretty notoriously difficult to engineer at any efficiency. I'd imagine you would be better off with an old diesel engine and a (possibly expensive) custom cam shaft. The stock oil sump and pump may actually work as well. Even still working at 4 strokes it would probably still work alright.
Would be great to see how the turbine handles load, correct me if i'm wrong but the way i see it tesla turbines govery fast so they produce a lot of power but not enough torque.
Looks cool. Would suggest insulating the pipes so you aren't losing heat, if you haven't already. I sounded loud on the video... do you think steam is a "neighbor friendly" source of green energy, or is it possible to suppress the noise?
Yes. Steam turbine power can be "neighbor friendly".......though not this turbine. See my other video of the new turbine "Sound Check..." to see how quiet the turbine can be. Ultra quiet power system is the goal, and the fuel is green, so, yes, this is environmentally friendly. Ultimately the fuel will come from some wood, some agricultural waste like straw converted into a form of pellets, etc. Lower cost than propane or diesel and lower carbon footprint.
@woodfirepower That was a dramatic improvement. Very cool! Apologies for asking the same question again - I see that others had the same question.
Do you have schematics for your turbine available, or a model that you sell? If so, please send a private email. Floridacoder at gmail.
Also, your house is "closer to nature" than mine so you probably don't care so much about smoke, but is there a way to reduce smoke output so the HOA or neighbors don't complain?
(continued) I've seen smokers that are auger fed and maintain a constant temperature, so I assume that I could use something like that to reduce smoke and maintain temp. I want a system that doesn't need my constant attention.
@JenMichel100 I didn't hook this up with instruments to measure the actual shaft power. But I do think it was producing around a kilowatt of shaft power. That said............I was pushing 40 kW of steam power through it. So the efficiency is really low, like 5 percent or so.
The turbine was spinning a bicycle brake rotor at up to 20,000 rpm and you can see how it was working as a powerful fan blowing the steam outward. So yes, it was producing around a kW. rt
Not sure what you mean. Around 1kW shaft power is a lot lower than the ~40kW steam I was blowing through the little turbine. Around 0.34 foot pounds of torque at around 20,000 rpm is around 1kW shaft power. I didn't instrument this so I could be off a bit. But yes, it's in the kW shaft power range.......albeit at a dismal ~5 percent thermal efficiency of getting energy out of the 40kW of steam.
run the PMG to Capacitors and then to a battery bank. then invert to your house mainbreaker. two 120Vac invertors hook up to main and run 220Vac. The generator needs to spin under no load, so charge up Running caps then discharge them to battery bank, Even pass thru a diode before capacitors. Tesla made his Capacitors from leydon jars then he went on to his owm invention of mica. Simple plate capacitors can be used too.. Thanks for the cool Idea! Now I can heat house, water and get free power !
In the 1800's an experiment was conducted to decompose water. People of the time heat up a rifle barrel to 600 degrees, and pump steam through it. A chemical conversion occurs from the heated iron and steam contact. The output is hydrogen gas. This may be a key factor to include when producing a successful new powerplant.
Your pushing 35-40 000rpm my guess and you can get a cheap laser tach for model airplanes to use on that auction site. Again nice job the body is tough.
Sounds faster than it is due to vibrations. I have a tach. But it's a bit scary getting close enough to get a reading. I think it's hitting 20krpm at times, but mostly down in the 10krpm range in the videos. It's spinning that large diameter 8" bicycle brake rotor that's acting like a rather powerful fan at these speeds. You can see the difference in steam exiting on the two sides (both exit sides open). Not enogh power to overcome starting torque on a PM alternator though.
Yup. Goal is home power sytsem first. After that, perhaps set a world land speed record for wood fueled car.....I'd guess the record stands at 0 on official books (no one has bothered to create a record) so limping at any speed down the salt flats would create a new record to beat. May try for a "Kickstarter" investment to build it if I get interest in seeing the project.
Re: steam powered car..................yes, when the power plant is dialed in, I intend to construct a land speed record car to set a new record for wood fueled car. The turbine can connect directly to the drive, or via a turbo alternator, either way for such a vehicle. Ought to be fairly easy to realize since the car could limp at say, 30mph and have the record, though I should at least set a goal for faster than past cord wood fueled steam cars whatever that claimed speed was.
@woodfirepower Looks like that wood powered car speed record is 77.5 MPH. Found that at beaverenergy site. Cool turbine, can't wait to look at more of your vids.
Amazing - you can stop 1kW using only 2 fingers?
Hyenak 25 minutes ago
You could use c02 as a working fluid or nitrogen
lbdavisjr 1 day ago
I would like to see you try to stop a 1Kw electric motor with your hands, and that's not 1Kw at the wheel, it's 1Kw including the losses.
izzzzzz6 1 day ago
how did you measure that 1kW
sirHHO 2 days ago
IMAGINE bolting a TURBO to that thing!!
KRAYSLiCK999 4 days ago
@KRAYSLiCK999 HOMADE vaccume
KRAYSLiCK999 4 days ago
looks great but look at all that wasted energy flowing out into the atmosphere. Why don't you capatalise on the energy and hook up multiple tesla tubines in series? In other words: have the output from one turbine running into the input of another turbine? One steam generator runs lots of turbines. Also use the super heated steam to generate HOT WATER for your home and then collect the water at the end and recycle it. Efficiency is the word! GET THE IDEA ; )
MattBlytheTheOne 4 days ago
This is great but what will it do under load?s'pose driving an electric motor it would fair.i'm not trying to be negative.
epster123ify 4 days ago
Watch other videos. Wood chip fueled monotube boiler, ~40kW steam power.
rt
woodfirepower 3 weeks ago
wat exactly is making the steam
skillz139 3 weeks ago
just a word of advice do not play with steam unless you are a trained pro. very dangerouse!!!
BensPerfect16 3 weeks ago
@BensPerfect16 Fear not, I am.
woodfirepower 3 weeks ago
@BensPerfect16 Of course, even though I understand things, doesn't mean they won't fly apart faster than I could get out of the way............hence, while doing these runs I hide behind the boiler and out of the plane of rotation of the rotor in case it were to fly off the shaft or break into shrapnel. Anyway, check out my New Steam Turbine videos to get a peek into what's coming down the road.
rt
woodfirepower 3 weeks ago
During these runs, I was hiding behind the boiler in case things flew apart.....so not sure where the dent in head would happen. One thing's clear though, these runs were more power than this turbine could safely be run at.
rt
woodfirepower 3 weeks ago
And what's the max RPM before u have a dent in your head?
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Sure. But it's more expensive and complicated to develop. Not as environmentally nice either. Using water, there's no pollution possibility and I can shoot steam across the yard, through the turbine and so on without leaks during development being an issue. Also, this way I can get the entire system to work more easily as a Co-Generation system, making both heat and power (electricity) via using the condensor for the steam as part of the hot water reservoir system in recent video posts. rt
woodfirepower 1 month ago
@woodfirepower Try a vented brake disc and bearing hub from a car, Your steam would be expelled from the centre of the disc, may make it easier to collect and condense.
4E047RHH 3 weeks ago
Have you thought of using freon in a closed loop setup with a condenser. It take much less heat to drive a turbine.
lbdavisjr 1 month ago
I sort of get the wanting to make a turbine like that, but even though they're simple, they're pretty notoriously difficult to engineer at any efficiency. I'd imagine you would be better off with an old diesel engine and a (possibly expensive) custom cam shaft. The stock oil sump and pump may actually work as well. Even still working at 4 strokes it would probably still work alright.
htomerif 1 month ago
I think he should reattch the bike to it!...
onceANexile 1 month ago
Hello I like your turbine, where did you buy it, can you sell one to me ?
putarracazo 1 month ago
Would be great to see how the turbine handles load, correct me if i'm wrong but the way i see it tesla turbines govery fast so they produce a lot of power but not enough torque.
funkmastertraf 1 month ago
Looks cool. Would suggest insulating the pipes so you aren't losing heat, if you haven't already. I sounded loud on the video... do you think steam is a "neighbor friendly" source of green energy, or is it possible to suppress the noise?
floridacoder 2 months ago
@floridacoder
Yes. Steam turbine power can be "neighbor friendly".......though not this turbine. See my other video of the new turbine "Sound Check..." to see how quiet the turbine can be. Ultra quiet power system is the goal, and the fuel is green, so, yes, this is environmentally friendly. Ultimately the fuel will come from some wood, some agricultural waste like straw converted into a form of pellets, etc. Lower cost than propane or diesel and lower carbon footprint.
woodfirepower 1 month ago
@woodfirepower That was a dramatic improvement. Very cool! Apologies for asking the same question again - I see that others had the same question.
Do you have schematics for your turbine available, or a model that you sell? If so, please send a private email. Floridacoder at gmail.
Also, your house is "closer to nature" than mine so you probably don't care so much about smoke, but is there a way to reduce smoke output so the HOA or neighbors don't complain?
floridacoder 1 month ago
(continued) I've seen smokers that are auger fed and maintain a constant temperature, so I assume that I could use something like that to reduce smoke and maintain temp. I want a system that doesn't need my constant attention.
floridacoder 1 month ago
Really interesting video. Have you tried comparing tesla turbine's performance to that of conventional bladed turbines?
DonXenapo 2 months ago
ممتازجدا.اعجبت بهذا الابتكار ولكن اتمنى لووضحت في الفيدوصورةالموقدوهويحترق كاملا وغرفة احتراق الخشب..وشكرا.
naser0503 2 months ago
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Hey #UN#, your video has good content, but I am not sure I totally agree with it...
startupbuildervideos 3 months ago
this must have a lower horse power?
JenMichel100 3 months ago
@JenMichel100 I didn't hook this up with instruments to measure the actual shaft power. But I do think it was producing around a kilowatt of shaft power. That said............I was pushing 40 kW of steam power through it. So the efficiency is really low, like 5 percent or so.
The turbine was spinning a bicycle brake rotor at up to 20,000 rpm and you can see how it was working as a powerful fan blowing the steam outward. So yes, it was producing around a kW. rt
woodfirepower 3 months ago
@JenMichel100
Not sure what you mean. Around 1kW shaft power is a lot lower than the ~40kW steam I was blowing through the little turbine. Around 0.34 foot pounds of torque at around 20,000 rpm is around 1kW shaft power. I didn't instrument this so I could be off a bit. But yes, it's in the kW shaft power range.......albeit at a dismal ~5 percent thermal efficiency of getting energy out of the 40kW of steam.
woodfirepower 3 months ago
explain how it works plz
pimpo911 4 months ago
run the PMG to Capacitors and then to a battery bank. then invert to your house mainbreaker. two 120Vac invertors hook up to main and run 220Vac. The generator needs to spin under no load, so charge up Running caps then discharge them to battery bank, Even pass thru a diode before capacitors. Tesla made his Capacitors from leydon jars then he went on to his owm invention of mica. Simple plate capacitors can be used too.. Thanks for the cool Idea! Now I can heat house, water and get free power !
jimdennett 4 months ago
In the 1800's an experiment was conducted to decompose water. People of the time heat up a rifle barrel to 600 degrees, and pump steam through it. A chemical conversion occurs from the heated iron and steam contact. The output is hydrogen gas. This may be a key factor to include when producing a successful new powerplant.
AmpleLight 5 months ago
Your pushing 35-40 000rpm my guess and you can get a cheap laser tach for model airplanes to use on that auction site. Again nice job the body is tough.
TheTeslaJet 8 months ago
@TheTeslaJet
Sounds faster than it is due to vibrations. I have a tach. But it's a bit scary getting close enough to get a reading. I think it's hitting 20krpm at times, but mostly down in the 10krpm range in the videos. It's spinning that large diameter 8" bicycle brake rotor that's acting like a rather powerful fan at these speeds. You can see the difference in steam exiting on the two sides (both exit sides open). Not enogh power to overcome starting torque on a PM alternator though.
woodfirepower 8 months ago
500* for effort. I have some 3/8" wide SS bodies if you want them cheap. I'll trade for axles ;o)
TheTeslaJet 8 months ago
Yeah steam to electric to electric motor = electric car
DrReaper 8 months ago
@DrReaper
Yup. Goal is home power sytsem first. After that, perhaps set a world land speed record for wood fueled car.....I'd guess the record stands at 0 on official books (no one has bothered to create a record) so limping at any speed down the salt flats would create a new record to beat. May try for a "Kickstarter" investment to build it if I get interest in seeing the project.
rt
woodfirepower 8 months ago
Im staying tuned thats for sure
SCENARIOBABY 8 months ago
COOL! Are you going to use it in a steam powered car?
ufoengines 8 months ago
@ufoengines
Re: steam powered car..................yes, when the power plant is dialed in, I intend to construct a land speed record car to set a new record for wood fueled car. The turbine can connect directly to the drive, or via a turbo alternator, either way for such a vehicle. Ought to be fairly easy to realize since the car could limp at say, 30mph and have the record, though I should at least set a goal for faster than past cord wood fueled steam cars whatever that claimed speed was.
woodfirepower 8 months ago
@woodfirepower Looks like that wood powered car speed record is 77.5 MPH. Found that at beaverenergy site. Cool turbine, can't wait to look at more of your vids.
DoItAllYaCanMan 1 month ago
@DoItAllYaCanMan
Interesting.......77mph is a really easy target to reach, even with a prototype turbine. Thanks for the info.
woodfirepower 1 month ago