@AxeMurderer24 Shaq didn't have the stamina to average 60. He couldn't play 48 min. in order to score 60. The reason Wilts #'s are so awesome are he never left the floor! You cant play 34 min and score 60. Wilt's ave min per was 45.8. Great stamina! Plus Wilt fast! He could really motor up and down the floor.
@AxeMurderer24 Wilt only avg. 30.1 ppg and 22.9 rpg 4.4 Apg and 45.8 mpg. He was a better scorer, better rebounder, better passer, better conditioned, and more athletic. Wilt's also had range with his great fadeaway bank shot. If they had kept track of blocks in the 60's Wilt and Russell would be 1 and 2 in that as well. Shaq would need an oxygen tank after 5 min. in the fast paced 60's. Kareem is comparable to Wilt but Shaq forget about it.
@thechosenchild lmao shaq blocking him ? So unreal mate , Gus Johnson was the 1st version of Sir Charles and he is the only guy to get injured attemting a dunk on another player , look how strong wilt is .
@wannam01 you dont see anyone close to bill russell in nowadays superstar do you ? The closest to Bill was Hakeem Olajuwon , Shaq was a decent rebounder , an averaged Sblocker , if you think wilt played againts 6-6 weak white centers , wrong again, he played again willis reed , bill russell , he is one of the two guys to block the skyhook (other one is Olajuwon )
Wilt chamberlain was a sexual predator who succeeded in seducing women thanks his statistics which were inflated by the below averge bigs he was matched up against. He plays todays he damn sure wouldn't average 50 a season!
As Walt Frazier said, Wilt would probably average 75 a game. Who exactly would be his competition today, especially with all the touch foul calls? I'd hardly call players like Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar "below average bigs".
Sure those were good players... but Wilt got his way mostly with the weaklings you see him abuse on many footages. Nowadays advanced defensive schemes coupled with stronger and more athletic bigs makes it very difficult for Bigs like wilt, who thrive in the paint, to throw up his wild numbers, like 50pts 35rebs nights.
And how do you explain that Wilt averaged 10 more rebounds per game than the likes of duncan, Kg, Dhoward in their prime... face it wasn't just that he was great!
The season he averaged 50 ppg his main offensive weapon was his 15 foot fall away jumper. There is so much of Wilt people today never saw. The only people who can testify of his dominance are those old enough to remember seeing him play in his prime. Wilt was larger, taller, and far more athletic than any of those guys you mentioned. Even as an old man with bad knees he was schooling younger taller centers like Kareem and Artis, guys that Tim, KG, or Dwight never faced.
@ThaChosenChild Wilt was much more skilled, athletic, and dominant than everyone u listed. The only one that might hang w/ Chamberlain is Olajuwon. Shaq never won 1 reb title and 2 scoring titles, while Wilt won 7 titles and 11 reb titles. When Wilt played there were less teams so he went up against HOF or all star talent every night. Wilt also could actually shoot and relied on the fadeaway for the majority of his pts. Wilt gets a bad rap but he had to deal...
@BNS224 Wilt was playing with people half his height. Shaq would wreck Wilt. If you put MJ in Wilt's time, it would be like putting MJ in his prime into high school.
@ThaChosenChild Wilt was playing against top notch competition in Bill Russel
Kareem Abdul Jabbar,Willis Reed,Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Dolph Schayes, Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore etc. every night. Shaq and Jordan got to play against a water downed 30 team league with teams like the Timberwolves and Grizzles. Shaq had no athleticism or skill. Jordan would think the Bad Boy pistons were soft if he ever played in 60's.
@ThaChosenChild As far as height goes Wilt faced Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" Dennis Awtrey: 6'11" Walt Bellamy: 6'11" Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0" Nate Bowmen: 6'11" Mel Counts: 7'0" Walter Dukes: 7'0" Jim Eakins: 6'11" Ray Felix: 6'11" Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"Swede Halbrook: 7'3"Reggie Harding: 7'0"Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11" etc.
Shaq never even won a rebounding title, he lost to Dennis Rodman who was 6'7" Chris Webber 6'9", and Ben Wallace 6'9".
@ThaChosenChild Get the f outta here. Wilt is much better than Shaq in every phase of the game besides maybe ft's and both were horrible. Wilt is easily in the discussion for greatest player of all time while Shaq is not even in the top 10.
@ThaChosenChild What Wilt only avg. 30.1 ppg and 22.9 rpg 4.4 Apg and 45.8 mpg. He was a better scorer, better rebounder, better passer, better conditioned, and more athletic. Wilt's also had range with his great fadeaway bank shot. If they had kept track of blocks in the 60's Wilt and Russell would be 1 and 2 in that as well. Shaq would need an oxygen tank after 5 min. in the fast paced 60's. Kareem is comparable to Wilt but Shaq forget about it.
@BNS224 end it.. stop writing so much.. I'm going to close this by saying, if wilt played today he would not average 30 points per game.. he would get shitted on. sad truth.
@ThaChosenChild That is your opinion but the stats back up my claim that Wilt is the most dominant individual in NBA History. I think Wilt in his prime could easily avg. 30-40 pts b/c of how water downed the league is. He probably avg. 25-30 pts against people like Howard or Duncan, and avg. 30-45 pts against teams like the Raptors, Bobcats, Nets, Sacramento etc.
@BNS224 did you see wilt play in this video? imagine him doing what his doing on these white guys on shaq.. shaq would block the shit out of his gay ass little shots.. if this guy was guarding shaq, shaq would post him up and fucking demolish him in the paint..
@ThaChosenChild Wilt would outrun and wear down Shaq. Shaq was not a good defender or rebounder, decent maybe.He made a couple of 2nd team defensive teams. Wilt's fadeaway was automatic. Shaq was limited to 5 ft and in. Shaq could barely get off the ground where as WIlt could dunk from the ft line w/ the top of the key as his starting point. Even w/o good equipment or the foam under the hardwood Wilt got up. Again, I understand you're a Shaq nuthugger but the stats are in favor of Wilt.
@ThaChosenChild I am more of an Olajuwon and Russell fan but respect Wilt's greatness. Don't get all pissy b/c when actually looking at the numbers Shaq is not all that great compared to others.
@BNS224 Little known fact, they kept track of Wilt's (total) blocks during his 2 eligible seasons at KU. One can easily calculate a more complete Wilt NCAA stat-line with available data:
Sophomore 1956-57 in 27games
29.6ppg on .467fg and .627ft - 18.9rpg - 6.74bpg
9.25ppg made at the ft line.
Junior 1957-58 in 21 games
30.1ppg .473fg .606ft - 17.5rpg - 10.48bpg
8.42ppg made at the ft line.
As a Junior according to KU's recorded stats, Wilt averaged a triple double.
@dantheman9758 Ya, Wilt is one of those players for the ages much like Jim Brown in football. Wilt in any era could dominate and from a variety of ways. When he put his mind to defense, even Bill Russell said Wilt did a better job than he did, although I do know Russell is extremely humble and may have exaggerated a little. he could also score 40-50 if needed and was a great passer if doubled. Definitely one of the all-time great athletes in all of sports!!!
@ThaChosenChild w/ personal and team injuries in terms of titles. To start Wilt's 76ers just weren't as good as Russell's C's. In 68, PHI in the ECF vs BOS lost 2 starters and their 6th man. In 69 finals, WIlt was playing w/ a hurt knee which he blew out in 70. In 70 finals, when W Frazier dominated, J West was playing injured. Then in 71 playoffs, both West and Baylor were DNP. Unfortunately Wilt gets all the blame. Put MJ on the 60's 76ers they get beat even worse than w/ Wilt
The average player in 1962. was 6'5.5'' and 208lbs , in 1967'(Wilt's prime) 6'6'' and 210lbs in 1993. 6'7'' and 217lbs , in 2001. 6'7'' and 224lbs . Where do you guys get that Wilt dominated becouse of his size and mass i will never know .
Its amazing on how people say that Wilt was much bigger than everyone else and that is why he had his statistics. I don't hear anyone talking about George Mikan who was the first true center and he was bigger than everyone else. George don't even come close to Wilts stats. His best was 20 and 14 average. They even made the lane wider because of George and not Wilt.
Only thing I hate about Wilt was that he retired too damn early, lol. Dude was arguably the most physically fit big man the NBA ever had and could've still been beastin' on folks well into his late-30s like Kareem and Malone did later on. Other than that, he was an incredibly skilled player and dominant to the point that the league had to change up their rules to make the game more fair to other teams that had to deal with his on-court presence on a frequent basis.
So what? That still doesn't explain why Wilt's teams had a difficult time winning championships. He was so dominant individually that he had to be triple teamed and sometimes even quadruple teamed to be stopped. Wilt was even schooling younger taller guys like Kareem and Artis Gilmore when he was in his mid-30s.
@bAby3Astwood ..."hes not really playin any good people no disrespect but they wasbusted white boys" Do you live under a rock or are you retarded!?. He played inumerable 50 greatest and HOF players BLACK AND WHITE that would STILL BE SUPERSTARS in todays game. Typical dumbass comment. Here, I restructured your comment into a slightly more literate one. "I don't know anything about NBA players of the past so I guess it means they were all white and bad!". You have the brain of a champion son.
@bAby3Astwood watch?v=IYq4CWeWaKg Hey who's that fella blocking a busted white boys.. err, i mean PRIME KAREEM'S skyhook TWICE in just 15 seconds!? That's a 35 year old arthritic Chamberlain exposing your lie.
You have no idea what you're talking about and you should probably do us all a favor and refrain from commenting on oldschool basketball videos until you decide to learn a thing or two.
I have watched all vids about Wilt which you can find on internet including 99% of the plays in this mix but i have never found a video or a source of theese plays 3:26 - 3:28 two blocks on Kareem and a fingeroll on Kareem at 3:54 . Could it be from the mysterious game 6 of 1972. semi finals ? I dont know . I wonder where the ESPN got the footage .
@dantheman9758 explanation? no need. Dwight howard would seriously let him to all this? His 100 point game wouldnt happen at all, he wouldnt even get close to 30 a game. The almighty jordan had to try his ass of to score 65 points. Imagine LeBron or kobe in russel's era, that's poor domination 60 point games would be like a freethrow. Dont get me wrong here Wilt is a BEAST period. in his ERA he most likely the greatest to play.
@Terennce26 You talkin bout 100 points or lasting which is it? 100 points? maybe not, lasting in today's game? OMG yes he could. He averaged 48.5mpg one season and his talents are so misunderstood today its ridiculous. I don't know if you watch actual Wilt games and if your mind is open or closed but his offensive dominance in a game isn't slowed by anyone especially a 6'9 center. This is a raw Wilt as he plays in an NCAA final four game vs a 6'9 center /watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc&feature=relmfu
@dantheman9758 Wilt is a legend. One of the greatest to play ever. but he wouldnt avg close to 50ppg i tell you that much, that's guaranteed. He playing against a bunch of short white people (with all due respect.) just like russell did. Put hakeem against this guy and see how much he scores. bet it wont be 40 or 30. And he would get owned on defense too. kevin mchale himself said the Centers today would OWNNNNN the legendary one's back in the day. Today's game is wayyy to much for these boys...
@Terennce26 I don't think he'd average 50ppg either, pace explains that. Kevin McHale did not say that, unless you can cite the source. Wilt played against the same height players as the NBA has today, google Dwight Howard draft express, he is 6'9 barefoot. All players before 1985 were measured barefoot for listheights, after 1985 it's shoe heights, today's "taller" players are explained by this alone and nothing else. Wilt plays against a 6'8 and 6'9 PF and C in that video, did u even watch it?
@Terennce26 Hakeem Olajuwan - 6' 9.5" barefoot, Wilt - 7' 1.25" barefoot, with a mid-range jumper lefty or righty and a sky-walker vertical. Jesus man just watch the video, I can't argue Wilt's case any better than an NCAA championship team getting wasted by Wilt. The talent isn't weak, short, or WHITE. No player in that game is shorter than Dwayne Wade, I'll list all of their heights for you. Who the eff ever told you Wilt played short white dudes anyways? And how would they know!?
@dantheman9758 you put up a good argument. look at wilt's awsome offense and those teams weak defenses. like i said put wilt against howard, bosh, mourning, shaq, rodman and see what happens. that same team wilt scored 100 points in put them against the 2000 Lakers and see what happens. For his time wilt was the greatest, in todays game he wouldnt be as amazing as he was. The great mj wouldnt even do what he did in todays game..
@Terennce26 I'm glad you watched the video. But remember, I'm not arguing a case about stat records, I'm simply revealing he actually IS elite superstar talent, most people who've never seen a single game of his just keep spreading lies about his era like wildfire. Most all of the discrediting information out there is untrue, Wilt was an amazing baller, and he'd (with different stats adjusted for pace/rules) certainly be just as dominant today. His game is incredibly skilled and what a specimen!
@Terennce26 And one other thing to keep in mind, most players don't have career nights against the leagues top talent like you are inferring (saying Wilt wouldn't score 100 against Lakers or D. Howard). Of course he wouldn't. Wilt didn't score 100 points against Bill Russell or Nate Thurmond either. Kobe never dropped 82 points on Dwane Wade, does that mean we should think less of him? Wilt with his talents could easily have an epic 60+ night against a bottom feeder NBA team today.
@Terennce26 Look up Dwights draft measurements, he's only a 6'9 center. Those SFU bigs double teaming him in that NCAA game (6'8 and 6'9) were gunning for an NCAA championship three-peat, and the 6'8 PF was a top defender in the NCAA at that time, they were more talented and bigger than Dwights HS competition for sure. /watch?v=F8lCmjauyH4 There's Dwight before the pro's... he aint exactly tit for tat. All he does is dunk, Dwight is a star for today, but Wilt is a once in a century athlete.
Wilt with his scoring and defense and passing make him maybe the best ever! But then Russel with 11 championships and his rebounding and his defense and his passing...how can you be wrong picking Russel over Wilt? My All-time team is.....Wilt, Russel, Big O, MJ, and Elgin Baylor, 2nd team(they have to play someone right?) Kareem, Hakeem, Magic, Bird, Kobe. Shaq Daddy is my 5th center.
What has changed in basketball? High-tech backboards with cameras. More cameras every angle. Color TV. Shorts look different after not seeing them but look at early Jordan with short shorts. Fundamentals were taught back then. Can you imagine Oscar being able to palm the ball? talent was much better back then! Choice(you know what I mean but I am sure that word is banned here). Hey when 60% of "youth" is eliminated each year in NYCity give us a much smaller pool of talent pool 2day.
@TheBenyi28: I made a spreadsheet to gauge the value of NBA players by using a mathematical model based on average events for each category so that I could add point values for all stat categories. Wilt had by FAR the best score in my system. I'm still adding players from 1984 to present, but I've got all the "name" players in there, and Wilt is BY FAR the best player of all time.
It goes:
Wilt, Magic, Lebron James, Oscar Robertson, Jordan, Bird, Iverson, Jerry West, Chris Paul, then Wade
@Biswalt IDK what system ur using and its great Wilt gets his due but it must be a whack system if Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, and Hakeem Olajuwon are not above Iverson, LBJ, Chris Paul, and D-Wade. That is y the PER system is so whack w/ D-Wade, CP3, and LBJ being above Magic, Bird, and Russell despite accounting for 11 MVPS and 19 titles compared to D-Wade, LBJ, and CP3 only putting up 2 MVPS and 1 Title.
@BNS224: I use my own system and it's VERY accurate, I guarantee that you would think so if you saw it.
The reason all those guys are better than Bird, Magic, etc. Is that there is progression in the league. Every year guys have been training harder and under better conditions with better diets, etc. Why would the talent pool get worse?
Don't get me wrong I like guys like Bird, Magic, and Russell, but if you had Bird and Lebron in a 1-on-1 do you really think he'd outplay LeBron? u high?
@Biswalt All the great players were not only able to put up phenomenal numbers but also impact their teams. Basketball is not a one-on-one sport. If the Bird vs LBJ matchup took place within a 5 on 5 game setting I would take Bird in a heartbeat. Much better shooter, great vision, smarter (probably 1st or 2nd smartest player ever), much better in the clutch, and mentally tougher. LBJ was contained by a 38 yr old Jason Kidd and got lit up by Terry. Bird would have a field day.
10 years after he retired, Chamberlain taught basketball to NBA players at the UCLA gym. Kiki saw him jam right over 4 guys - David Greenwood & Mark Eaton were two of them.
Wilt taught Eaton how to guard in the paint, how to avoid wearing out his legs, how to rebound, how to block shots.
When Magic talked trash, Wilt blocked every single one of Magic's shots
Wilt's 7'2 or 7'3 and the one guarding him are 6'7-6'9(Bill Russell's height). LOL. I'm not disrespecting the legend, it's a fact... and no one can deny he's talent and greatness.
@MyVicariousness28 No doubt Wilt had a couple of inches but Russell was the 7th best high jumper in the world coming out of college and could run the 440 in 49 seconds while WIlt could shot put 53 ft, run the 100 meter in 10.9 seconds and run the 880 in under 2 minutes. These guys were both superb athletes and made for one helluva matchup.
was just reading hub pages... this guy had 227 double doubles in a row... 35 field goals in a row... 18 for 18 fg in a game... 33 wins in a row... quadruple doubles in playoffs against the Celtics
no one will ever be able to be compared to wilt not jordan not shaq nor dwight howard..... hands down the greatest player and most dominant of ALL TIME
@kfjfjgjjfvjgf Wilt, Russel, Jerry West the Logo, Jerry Lucas, DeBusschere over in Detroit... Oscar - - they are the reason there is a NBA today. They created modern basketball
@therealethan1 Of course he was better, he not just averaged 30 points per game through all his career, but he averaged too 24 rebounds and almost 5 assist (and blocks weren't counted...)
wilt chamberlain best ever no one will ever be beter than wilt one year avraged 50 points per game and he is a center dunking was too easy to wilt he liked to challage self unlike lebrone unable to win championship
I don't get why Wilt is considered by many to be the best. Numbers mean a lot, yes, but they are not everything. You have to consider other qualitative factors in as well. I would argue that Wilt performed the way he did because people in general were just way smaller, shorter, weaker, and could not jump as high back then. Humans are continually increasing in size. Weight lifting and vertical jump training are as popular as ever. The question is how he would have fared against today's athletes.
@ShinyBlackRims Yeah but that question can never really be answered as far as how he would fare in the NBA today. Wilt as an individual dominated against the competition he faced more than anyone in the NBA before or since. I mean Shaq was bigger than his competition and never led the NBA in Scoring and Rebounding in the same season, WIlt did it like 5 times. I am not saying WIlt had the best overall basketball skill set but he was the most dominating individual player the NBA has had so far.
@BNS224 That's what I was thinking all along. If by dominance we measure which player is the best, then Wilt is. If we're talking about skill then its a different discussion.
@ShinyBlackRims I agree, when it comes to overall basketball skills the 4 that come to mind are Magic, Larry, Michael, and Oscar. If there are any other contenders I am all ears, but those 4 seem like the most complete players. If i had to choose one I would take Magic but I could totally see arguments for the other 3.
@BNS224 since you are all ears perhaps you can answer this,what player retired with most fgs in a playoff game,most assists in a playoff game,most rebounds in a playoff game and although unofficial,most blocked shots in a playoff game.that is of course wilt chamberlain.
@djwc6 WIlt was the most dominant player so far but its not like Wilt could handle the ball or shoot from the midrange or beyond. His freethrows were horrible. As far as actual basketball skills he was not the most complete. Magic went for like 40 pts, 15 reb, 7 ast as rookie to clinch the 1980 Finals starting at center.
@BNS224 there is no doubt that magic had a phenomenal game and is one of the all time greats,wilt however scored 53 as a rookie in the playoffs (setting the nba playoff record at the time) and in the next series against boston grabbed 35 rebounds against bill russell.If you would watch enough video of wilt what you would discover was that his fall away jumper was deadly in the midrange and he was very good at the corner shot however with no 3 pt line he was discouraged from shooting long shots
@djwc6 Wilts fallaway bank shot was very effective but b/c the key was smaller till around the mid 1960's its hard to judge how far his fallaway took place from.His freethrows were terrbile though. I am more of a Wilt and Bird fan but its hard not to pick Magic as far as being the most complete player. Wilt did put up some unreal numbers though that are even difficult to achieve in video games.
@BNS224 wilt was a terribly inconsistent free throw shooter that is for sure,he might go 0 for 10 one night and then hit 86% on another night (such as the night he scored 100 pts he was 28 of 32 from the free throw line) but that is at least partially attributable to his coaches,who would allow him to take free throws from just inside the top of the key and continually change techniques,of course it doesn't help when you have eight different coaches in a 14 year career.
@ShinyBlackRims name one,just one,player in the nba in 2011 that is bigger stronger faster and has more stamina than chamberlain.the list is zero,its just an impossible combination.
@ShinyBlackRims Jerry West could stick scotch tape above the square around the basket. For a guy 6'3 that's about a 42" vert. Gus Johnson, Elgin Baylor, Connie Hawkins all had terrific vertical leap. Bill Russell was ranked #7 in the world as a high jumper. Chamberlain cleared 6'6" in high jump using an untrained Western Roll.
Nate Thurmond, 6'11 260 lbs was the same size as Dampier (tho FAR more skilled). Chamberlain shrugged his shoulders on a rebound and Nate went flying into the bleachers.
@ShinyBlackRims People were not smaller, shorter, nor weaker. The game was a race, one of the main strategies was to run your opponent into the ground. Whoever had more 4th quarter stamina wins.
Havlicek today would run any player into the ground. His lungs were 30% larger than a normal man.
Running on a cinder track with pathetic shoes, Jesse Owens 1936 Olympic time was .4 second slower than Bolt, who runs with incredible shoes on special track engineered to add spring to your step.
@stere0brain As for "Havlicek today would run any player into the ground," that is slippery slope at its worst.
Unless you have figures for mile times and full court sprints to start backing up your claims, your statement is just another, "That person would do this today." How do you know? What's to prevent anyone from claiming anything if this logic is correct? Would-haves, could-haves, and will-do's are invalid forms of argument.
@stere0brain Slippery slope is weak and illogical. Maybe YOU should your WEAK SHIT out of here and learn how to use logic properly. Whatever you say won't change anything about how strong so and so players are. I'll leave you to act here alone as a keyboard warrior who can't find better ways to prove himself.
Wilt is the most dominating individual player in NBA history, russell is the greatest team player (knowing how to best utilize his skills in order to get the most out of his team). As far as overall basketball skills its a toss up between Magic, Larry, Michael, and Oscar.
walt dukes was a lot like rodman,he led the league in ejections four straight seasons(an nba record) he was not a great scorer but was considered the first fast,quick and athletic 7 footer,he is also considered the best basketball player to come out of seton hall and still holds their all time rebounding record.
@CiaoRenata Thrue he was the ultimate shot blocker , was big , had huge vertical and had great timing to jump . He could block things what all other players in nba history could not .
a great tribute to the incomparable wilt chamberlain. there's no way any modern player could have stopped his classic turn-around jump shot from the first half of his career, and likewise with the soaring finger roll. nor would anyone be able to out rebound him, or block more shots.
@yusufu9 You have to remember that he quit in 1972 (or '73, it doesn't matter), aka 40 years ago... Basketball was not the same sport you see today... In my opinion it's simply unfair compairing playerd that played before the 80's with the ones that play these days (even comparing Magic to Wilt is unfair, in 10 years the game devoloped so much!)
@Jemapelbulgarel yes, pro sports change over the years, but truly exceptional athletes can play in any era, and those from the past would have benefited from new diets, training, medical care, etc. you may not be aware that wilt continued to play pick-up games at ucla with nba stars even in to his late 40s. coach larry brown and kiki vanderwegh report the incident where wilt decided to completely shut down magic's team, and blocked every shot in sight. both said he would still dominate now!
@WildDanHibiki wilt chamberlain is the only play in NBA history to put up 50.4 a game. he's now for being a center to lead the league in assists (8.4 rpg) and grab a bunch of rebound (27.2). but when it came to the playoffs. his 50 point season turned into a 35 point playoff run. his 44ppg season into a 38ppg season. that is called choking my friend. lebron did the same thing but wilt had the greatest drop in play durin the post season.
@idontnoapassword Wilt Chamberlain is by far the greatest playoff player of all time . The guy has 22.5 ppg , 24.5 rebs , 4.2 assists and god knows how manny blocks as his playoff average . To say he choked in playoffs would be apsurd .
@garioldwin having those kinds of stats are great but when you put up a unreal number of 50ppg and drop to 25ppg that's is called choking. A clutch player is someone who does better when needed not worse. playoff stats should go up not drop.
@idontnoapassword Wilts stats never dropped in the playoffs from the 66' season to 73' that i am sure . As for his earlier season when he got 50ppg his stats did dropped but he played 4 games against Boston Celtics which had Bill Russell and Syracuse Nationals 4 games. Ever considered that his average was lower becouse he played half of those games against the best defensive team and defensive player in the league ? As for you ignorance , Wilts team did not make the playoffs when he had 44ppg .
@garioldwin ya he did play against bill russel but that wasn't until the conference final. even bill russel came through the play off by scoring more points then he did in the regular season. As for your ignorance, Wilt played more then 4 games against the celtics he played 7.
@idontnoapassword Lol i dont get it? He played only against the Syracuse Nationals in division semi finals and division finals against Boston Celtics .There were no more playoff opponents for his team Yes i was wrong about the number of games but what you just said proves my point even more . Wilt played in that playoffs 7 games against the Celtics and only 5 games against Syracuse Nationals . Youre making fool of yourself .
@garioldwin You said he played against hard defensive teams. the only 2 teams he played were syracuse nationals and celtics yes. but syracuse nationals werent a hard defending team. LEt's say wilt played his 50ppg moments against the the 76ers. Then he put up around 25ppg and probably closer to 20 rpg.
@idontnoapassword No , he played most of his games in 1962. playoffs against the best defensive team , thats what i meant to say . Even if youre gonna look your way you still cant call Wilt the greatest choker in nba history just becouse he had one or two seasons in his career lower playoff average then his season average . It doesnt make sense .
@idontnoapassword.From 1959-1966 wilt chamberlain averaged 33pts,26rebs and 3 assists for a total of 62 nobody in their best year comes close to wilt averages, he put up such incomparable numbers that the only person he can be compared to is himself
okay well 26 rebs overrated. The only reason why is because the amount of shots taken. less time standing. Less fauls drawn. The strongest arguement i have for sayin that the fact that his 26 rebounds weren't such a feet of strength is bill russell would put up 24rpg. Even bob pettit avg. somewere between 15-18 rpg. Also i hope your talkin bout centers cus jordans first 6 years (excluding his 2nd) was 33ppg. 6apg 7rbg and would have been more in the 60s. not to mention wilts 53%from the ft.
@idontnoapassword both bob petit and bill russell were 6'9"but bob petit was a hall of fame forward,bill russell was the second greatest rebounder of all time(to wilt) if kevin love can get 30 rebounds in a game i'm pretty sure russell and chamberlain would get 40 or 50.as for jordan his 33+6+7=46 isn't even close to chamberlains 62 so go compare mj to kobe or lebron because no one can be compared to wilt.
but getting 25rpg isn't impressive. i understand they were great HOFplayer buts what your sayin is there hasn't been a rebounder since the wilt era. Even the new york knicks who had a lossing streak had 2ppl avg. 13 and 11rpg while dwight howard avg. 14 in these days. the n.y.knicks had 2people score over 25points pg. one being 29ppg. yet they had a losing streak. Stats are so overrated when you talk about wilt's era. Being such shaq or abdul kareem jabbar would dominate in those times. fact
@idontnoapassword dennis rodman avg about 19 rebounds per game in a season playing only 40 min.rebounds are there in any era.but as they say theres no such thing as a free lunch you have to expend energy to rebound.kareem was a great rebounder but in his 27 meetings against chamberlain,who was in his mid thirties at the time,he was outrebounded 491 to 422.
@idontnoapassword so you've compared one of the greatest scorers in michael jordan to wilt,then you compared two hall of fame centers to wilt when talking about rebounds,so next when we talk about assists you'll be forced to bring up magic or oscar robertson,who you going to compare to wilt when we talk about blocked shots.do you get my point yet,he was by far the greatest basketball player ever.
@idontnoapassword i'm not saying shaq or kareem wouldn't dominate,they are both hall of famers and all-time greats,any of the greats would dominate in any era.i was pointing out that as a man in his mid 30s chamberlain was still a better rebounder than kareem was in his prime.as for stats being overated then jordans stat of going from 37.1 to 43.7 reg season to playoffs is way over-rated since all that came of it was a three game sweep.
@djwc6 i'm sorry i didn't mean to say kareem abdul jabbar (notice i spelt his name wrong) i ment to say dwight howard idk why i said kareem.wanted a comparison of 2 of the better re bounders of todays era. Dwight howard career avg is 13 rpg and one of the best centers in the NBA. arguably the best. but walter dukes avg. 11 for his career avg. does that put both of them on the same level as each other for rebounding? that a avg. player in the 60s is as good as the best of the 2000s?
@idontnoapassword lol scoring 35 ppg in the playoffs is amazing still, and also it wasn't that Wilt choked, it's that he played the Boston Celtics over and over in the playoffs a team that had 8 hall of fame players.
@habibihouse, You're probably right, contemporary centers have evolved to huge, strong and agile players in today's NBA. Wilt was the prototype in this position and dominated the league facing no opposition at that time.The only formidable centers I could think of were Russell, Big"E" Elvin Hayes SDiego Rockets, Dave Cowens Celtics, Nate Thurmond SF Warriors and Wes Unseld Baltimore Bullets and listing at only 6'8".
@mistressofaminer ..And just where are all these "huge, strong, agile" centers in today's NBA? There's D.Howard, then the list drops off. Wilt went against Russell, Bellamy(6'11") Reed(6'10)Thurmond(6'11"), Lanier(6'11") and Kareem(7'2") when he was young, 8-10 times a season. Less teams, better centers nightly. I wo
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Greeselr 6 days ago
The greatest offensive force ever!!
SuperRaficokings87 1 week ago
If you look closely lebron traveled
Jattmafia313 2 weeks ago
Shaq would've average 60ppg for his career if he played in that era
AxeMurderer24 2 weeks ago
@AxeMurderer24 Shaq didn't have the stamina to average 60. He couldn't play 48 min. in order to score 60. The reason Wilts #'s are so awesome are he never left the floor! You cant play 34 min and score 60. Wilt's ave min per was 45.8. Great stamina! Plus Wilt fast! He could really motor up and down the floor.
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@AxeMurderer24 Wilt only avg. 30.1 ppg and 22.9 rpg 4.4 Apg and 45.8 mpg. He was a better scorer, better rebounder, better passer, better conditioned, and more athletic. Wilt's also had range with his great fadeaway bank shot. If they had kept track of blocks in the 60's Wilt and Russell would be 1 and 2 in that as well. Shaq would need an oxygen tank after 5 min. in the fast paced 60's. Kareem is comparable to Wilt but Shaq forget about it.
BNS224 1 day ago
@thechosenchild lmao shaq blocking him ? So unreal mate , Gus Johnson was the 1st version of Sir Charles and he is the only guy to get injured attemting a dunk on another player , look how strong wilt is .
wanthedream98 4 weeks ago
@wannam01 you dont see anyone close to bill russell in nowadays superstar do you ? The closest to Bill was Hakeem Olajuwon , Shaq was a decent rebounder , an averaged Sblocker , if you think wilt played againts 6-6 weak white centers , wrong again, he played again willis reed , bill russell , he is one of the two guys to block the skyhook (other one is Olajuwon )
wanthedream98 4 weeks ago
Короче он крут!!!
ali97687 1 month ago
Wilt chamberlain was a sexual predator who succeeded in seducing women thanks his statistics which were inflated by the below averge bigs he was matched up against. He plays todays he damn sure wouldn't average 50 a season!
wannam01 1 month ago
@wannam01
As Walt Frazier said, Wilt would probably average 75 a game. Who exactly would be his competition today, especially with all the touch foul calls? I'd hardly call players like Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar "below average bigs".
bordertown 1 month ago
@bordertown
Sure those were good players... but Wilt got his way mostly with the weaklings you see him abuse on many footages. Nowadays advanced defensive schemes coupled with stronger and more athletic bigs makes it very difficult for Bigs like wilt, who thrive in the paint, to throw up his wild numbers, like 50pts 35rebs nights.
And how do you explain that Wilt averaged 10 more rebounds per game than the likes of duncan, Kg, Dhoward in their prime... face it wasn't just that he was great!
wannam01 1 month ago
@wannam01
The season he averaged 50 ppg his main offensive weapon was his 15 foot fall away jumper. There is so much of Wilt people today never saw. The only people who can testify of his dominance are those old enough to remember seeing him play in his prime. Wilt was larger, taller, and far more athletic than any of those guys you mentioned. Even as an old man with bad knees he was schooling younger taller centers like Kareem and Artis, guys that Tim, KG, or Dwight never faced.
bordertown 1 month ago
Wilt was better than jordon
Baronwwe 1 month ago
@Baronwwe I agree 100%
tonycapt1 1 week ago
I bet he fucked Sarah Palin too!
Bienville25 1 month ago
this guy with would get shitted on by Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing and Dwight if he played at their time.
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild lol
oden52dof 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild Wilt was much more skilled, athletic, and dominant than everyone u listed. The only one that might hang w/ Chamberlain is Olajuwon. Shaq never won 1 reb title and 2 scoring titles, while Wilt won 7 titles and 11 reb titles. When Wilt played there were less teams so he went up against HOF or all star talent every night. Wilt also could actually shoot and relied on the fadeaway for the majority of his pts. Wilt gets a bad rap but he had to deal...
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 Wilt was playing with people half his height. Shaq would wreck Wilt. If you put MJ in Wilt's time, it would be like putting MJ in his prime into high school.
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild Wilt was playing against top notch competition in Bill Russel
Kareem Abdul Jabbar,Willis Reed,Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Dolph Schayes, Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore etc. every night. Shaq and Jordan got to play against a water downed 30 team league with teams like the Timberwolves and Grizzles. Shaq had no athleticism or skill. Jordan would think the Bad Boy pistons were soft if he ever played in 60's.
BNS224 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild As far as height goes Wilt faced Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2" Dennis Awtrey: 6'11" Walt Bellamy: 6'11" Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0" Nate Bowmen: 6'11" Mel Counts: 7'0" Walter Dukes: 7'0" Jim Eakins: 6'11" Ray Felix: 6'11" Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"Swede Halbrook: 7'3"Reggie Harding: 7'0"Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11" etc.
Shaq never even won a rebounding title, he lost to Dennis Rodman who was 6'7" Chris Webber 6'9", and Ben Wallace 6'9".
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 Shaq would shit on WIlt. The end. now stfu
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild Get the f outta here. Wilt is much better than Shaq in every phase of the game besides maybe ft's and both were horrible. Wilt is easily in the discussion for greatest player of all time while Shaq is not even in the top 10.
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 okay buddy. what ever you say. I'm saying Shaq would jizz on wilt anyday any hour.. he would completely dominant his ass.
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild What Wilt only avg. 30.1 ppg and 22.9 rpg 4.4 Apg and 45.8 mpg. He was a better scorer, better rebounder, better passer, better conditioned, and more athletic. Wilt's also had range with his great fadeaway bank shot. If they had kept track of blocks in the 60's Wilt and Russell would be 1 and 2 in that as well. Shaq would need an oxygen tank after 5 min. in the fast paced 60's. Kareem is comparable to Wilt but Shaq forget about it.
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 end it.. stop writing so much.. I'm going to close this by saying, if wilt played today he would not average 30 points per game.. he would get shitted on. sad truth.
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild That is your opinion but the stats back up my claim that Wilt is the most dominant individual in NBA History. I think Wilt in his prime could easily avg. 30-40 pts b/c of how water downed the league is. He probably avg. 25-30 pts against people like Howard or Duncan, and avg. 30-45 pts against teams like the Raptors, Bobcats, Nets, Sacramento etc.
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 did you see wilt play in this video? imagine him doing what his doing on these white guys on shaq.. shaq would block the shit out of his gay ass little shots.. if this guy was guarding shaq, shaq would post him up and fucking demolish him in the paint..
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild Wilt would outrun and wear down Shaq. Shaq was not a good defender or rebounder, decent maybe.He made a couple of 2nd team defensive teams. Wilt's fadeaway was automatic. Shaq was limited to 5 ft and in. Shaq could barely get off the ground where as WIlt could dunk from the ft line w/ the top of the key as his starting point. Even w/o good equipment or the foam under the hardwood Wilt got up. Again, I understand you're a Shaq nuthugger but the stats are in favor of Wilt.
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 ah man.. dude you honestly need a life, take wilts dick outa your mouth.
ThaChosenChild 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild I am more of an Olajuwon and Russell fan but respect Wilt's greatness. Don't get all pissy b/c when actually looking at the numbers Shaq is not all that great compared to others.
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 Little known fact, they kept track of Wilt's (total) blocks during his 2 eligible seasons at KU. One can easily calculate a more complete Wilt NCAA stat-line with available data:
Sophomore 1956-57 in 27games
29.6ppg on .467fg and .627ft - 18.9rpg - 6.74bpg
9.25ppg made at the ft line.
Junior 1957-58 in 21 games
30.1ppg .473fg .606ft - 17.5rpg - 10.48bpg
8.42ppg made at the ft line.
As a Junior according to KU's recorded stats, Wilt averaged a triple double.
dantheman9758 1 month ago
@dantheman9758 Ya, Wilt is one of those players for the ages much like Jim Brown in football. Wilt in any era could dominate and from a variety of ways. When he put his mind to defense, even Bill Russell said Wilt did a better job than he did, although I do know Russell is extremely humble and may have exaggerated a little. he could also score 40-50 if needed and was a great passer if doubled. Definitely one of the all-time great athletes in all of sports!!!
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224 Also, I'm not sure if you've seen this, but this is Wilt in the NCAA Final Four tournament.
watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc
Crazy activity, he's just all over the court
dantheman9758 1 month ago
@ThaChosenChild w/ personal and team injuries in terms of titles. To start Wilt's 76ers just weren't as good as Russell's C's. In 68, PHI in the ECF vs BOS lost 2 starters and their 6th man. In 69 finals, WIlt was playing w/ a hurt knee which he blew out in 70. In 70 finals, when W Frazier dominated, J West was playing injured. Then in 71 playoffs, both West and Baylor were DNP. Unfortunately Wilt gets all the blame. Put MJ on the 60's 76ers they get beat even worse than w/ Wilt
BNS224 1 month ago
it pisses me off that this video has 380,000 views and micheal jordans video has 8,700,000 when wilt is just as good
CrazyBananaMan2 1 month ago
The average player in 1962. was 6'5.5'' and 208lbs , in 1967'(Wilt's prime) 6'6'' and 210lbs in 1993. 6'7'' and 217lbs , in 2001. 6'7'' and 224lbs . Where do you guys get that Wilt dominated becouse of his size and mass i will never know .
garioldwin 1 month ago
Rip nw we have no hope no cash no jobs and no will
ryhnohead 2 months ago
Its amazing on how people say that Wilt was much bigger than everyone else and that is why he had his statistics. I don't hear anyone talking about George Mikan who was the first true center and he was bigger than everyone else. George don't even come close to Wilts stats. His best was 20 and 14 average. They even made the lane wider because of George and not Wilt.
grosskopf2 2 months ago
Only thing I hate about Wilt was that he retired too damn early, lol. Dude was arguably the most physically fit big man the NBA ever had and could've still been beastin' on folks well into his late-30s like Kareem and Malone did later on. Other than that, he was an incredibly skilled player and dominant to the point that the league had to change up their rules to make the game more fair to other teams that had to deal with his on-court presence on a frequent basis.
PeekaPeep 2 months ago
One guy on Wilt vs Ali vid said that his grandpa is a hall of fame basketball player and that he saw Wilt doing 100 1 handed pushups .
garioldwin 2 months ago
hes not really playin any good people no disrespect but they wasbusted white boys that we dnt know
bAby3Astwood 2 months ago
@bAby3Astwood
So what? That still doesn't explain why Wilt's teams had a difficult time winning championships. He was so dominant individually that he had to be triple teamed and sometimes even quadruple teamed to be stopped. Wilt was even schooling younger taller guys like Kareem and Artis Gilmore when he was in his mid-30s.
bordertown 2 months ago
@bAby3Astwood ..."hes not really playin any good people no disrespect but they wasbusted white boys" Do you live under a rock or are you retarded!?. He played inumerable 50 greatest and HOF players BLACK AND WHITE that would STILL BE SUPERSTARS in todays game. Typical dumbass comment. Here, I restructured your comment into a slightly more literate one. "I don't know anything about NBA players of the past so I guess it means they were all white and bad!". You have the brain of a champion son.
dantheman9758 2 months ago
@bAby3Astwood watch?v=IYq4CWeWaKg Hey who's that fella blocking a busted white boys.. err, i mean PRIME KAREEM'S skyhook TWICE in just 15 seconds!? That's a 35 year old arthritic Chamberlain exposing your lie.
dantheman9758 2 months ago
@bAby3Astwood
You have no idea what you're talking about and you should probably do us all a favor and refrain from commenting on oldschool basketball videos until you decide to learn a thing or two.
otterpops85 2 months ago
loser wilt
447462 3 months ago
god i love that post-move fade away
CrazYMadarfakaR 3 months ago
@CrazYMadarfakaR same here, i hvae a vidoe on my channel with his best post move fade aways, and i'm making another new right now.
PhillyDippy5 3 months ago
excellent song fade into you by Mazzy Star. Hope Sandoval rocks!
ToThirio 3 months ago
I have watched all vids about Wilt which you can find on internet including 99% of the plays in this mix but i have never found a video or a source of theese plays 3:26 - 3:28 two blocks on Kareem and a fingeroll on Kareem at 3:54 . Could it be from the mysterious game 6 of 1972. semi finals ? I dont know . I wonder where the ESPN got the footage .
garioldwin 3 months ago
He wouldn't last in today's game
Terennce26 3 months ago
@Terennce26 LMFAO! - explanation please?
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@dantheman9758 explanation? no need. Dwight howard would seriously let him to all this? His 100 point game wouldnt happen at all, he wouldnt even get close to 30 a game. The almighty jordan had to try his ass of to score 65 points. Imagine LeBron or kobe in russel's era, that's poor domination 60 point games would be like a freethrow. Dont get me wrong here Wilt is a BEAST period. in his ERA he most likely the greatest to play.
Terennce26 3 months ago
@Terennce26 You talkin bout 100 points or lasting which is it? 100 points? maybe not, lasting in today's game? OMG yes he could. He averaged 48.5mpg one season and his talents are so misunderstood today its ridiculous. I don't know if you watch actual Wilt games and if your mind is open or closed but his offensive dominance in a game isn't slowed by anyone especially a 6'9 center. This is a raw Wilt as he plays in an NCAA final four game vs a 6'9 center /watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc&feature=relmfu
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@dantheman9758 Wilt is a legend. One of the greatest to play ever. but he wouldnt avg close to 50ppg i tell you that much, that's guaranteed. He playing against a bunch of short white people (with all due respect.) just like russell did. Put hakeem against this guy and see how much he scores. bet it wont be 40 or 30. And he would get owned on defense too. kevin mchale himself said the Centers today would OWNNNNN the legendary one's back in the day. Today's game is wayyy to much for these boys...
Terennce26 3 months ago
@Terennce26 I don't think he'd average 50ppg either, pace explains that. Kevin McHale did not say that, unless you can cite the source. Wilt played against the same height players as the NBA has today, google Dwight Howard draft express, he is 6'9 barefoot. All players before 1985 were measured barefoot for listheights, after 1985 it's shoe heights, today's "taller" players are explained by this alone and nothing else. Wilt plays against a 6'8 and 6'9 PF and C in that video, did u even watch it?
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@Terennce26 Hakeem Olajuwan - 6' 9.5" barefoot, Wilt - 7' 1.25" barefoot, with a mid-range jumper lefty or righty and a sky-walker vertical. Jesus man just watch the video, I can't argue Wilt's case any better than an NCAA championship team getting wasted by Wilt. The talent isn't weak, short, or WHITE. No player in that game is shorter than Dwayne Wade, I'll list all of their heights for you. Who the eff ever told you Wilt played short white dudes anyways? And how would they know!?
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@dantheman9758 you put up a good argument. look at wilt's awsome offense and those teams weak defenses. like i said put wilt against howard, bosh, mourning, shaq, rodman and see what happens. that same team wilt scored 100 points in put them against the 2000 Lakers and see what happens. For his time wilt was the greatest, in todays game he wouldnt be as amazing as he was. The great mj wouldnt even do what he did in todays game..
Terennce26 3 months ago
@Terennce26 I'm glad you watched the video. But remember, I'm not arguing a case about stat records, I'm simply revealing he actually IS elite superstar talent, most people who've never seen a single game of his just keep spreading lies about his era like wildfire. Most all of the discrediting information out there is untrue, Wilt was an amazing baller, and he'd (with different stats adjusted for pace/rules) certainly be just as dominant today. His game is incredibly skilled and what a specimen!
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@Terennce26 And one other thing to keep in mind, most players don't have career nights against the leagues top talent like you are inferring (saying Wilt wouldn't score 100 against Lakers or D. Howard). Of course he wouldn't. Wilt didn't score 100 points against Bill Russell or Nate Thurmond either. Kobe never dropped 82 points on Dwane Wade, does that mean we should think less of him? Wilt with his talents could easily have an epic 60+ night against a bottom feeder NBA team today.
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@dantheman9758 that argue able that he can. but its all on opinion tho. nice convo man.
Terennce26 3 months ago
@Terennce26 Yes, it is opinon - but I appreciated the chat. Apologies for the "LMFAO" lol
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@dantheman9758 lol NP man
Terennce26 3 months ago
@dantheman9758 he didn't drop 100 on Russell but he did grab 55 rebounds against him :3
TheReeeeeech 3 months ago
@TheReeeeeech Yah, damn... I forgot that he did that... crazy!
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@Terennce26 Look up Dwights draft measurements, he's only a 6'9 center. Those SFU bigs double teaming him in that NCAA game (6'8 and 6'9) were gunning for an NCAA championship three-peat, and the 6'8 PF was a top defender in the NCAA at that time, they were more talented and bigger than Dwights HS competition for sure. /watch?v=F8lCmjauyH4 There's Dwight before the pro's... he aint exactly tit for tat. All he does is dunk, Dwight is a star for today, but Wilt is a once in a century athlete.
dantheman9758 3 months ago
@Terennce26 I'm sorry but did you say that Wilt wouldn't last in today's game. Did I read that correctly?
grosskopf2 2 months ago
@grosskopf2 ummm he would last. but not dominate like he did back then. he stil would probally put up numbers tho.
Terennce26 2 months ago
song name?
jesushelps 3 months ago
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Wilt Chamberlain catches the ball at the top of the backboard .
/watch?v=tCtmgxwsiJY
garioldwin 3 months ago
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garioldwin 3 months ago
The most Dominant player in Basketball History. Making Russell look like a chump game after game.
WBmilkmandan 3 months ago
YO Keptic I know you love hoops...........
watch?v=kB43A-ODuLc
3:15 Wilt Chamberlain at the top of the backboard.
musikaNeues 3 months ago
My all time womanizer team is......Wilt, Kobe, Arnold Palmer, Tiger, Dominique.
dbohnenkamper 3 months ago
Wilt with his scoring and defense and passing make him maybe the best ever! But then Russel with 11 championships and his rebounding and his defense and his passing...how can you be wrong picking Russel over Wilt? My All-time team is.....Wilt, Russel, Big O, MJ, and Elgin Baylor, 2nd team(they have to play someone right?) Kareem, Hakeem, Magic, Bird, Kobe. Shaq Daddy is my 5th center.
dbohnenkamper 3 months ago
@dbohnenkamper I think it's Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson
PhillyDippy5 3 months ago
What has changed in basketball? High-tech backboards with cameras. More cameras every angle. Color TV. Shorts look different after not seeing them but look at early Jordan with short shorts. Fundamentals were taught back then. Can you imagine Oscar being able to palm the ball? talent was much better back then! Choice(you know what I mean but I am sure that word is banned here). Hey when 60% of "youth" is eliminated each year in NYCity give us a much smaller pool of talent pool 2day.
dbohnenkamper 3 months ago
Would root as well
Gangitano199 3 months ago
this is one of my favourite songs but just an inexplicable choice for this vid... lol... ah youtube. but Mazzy Star, hey... I can't be mad at it
Nicktimus 3 months ago
Reason why he was so good in the paint is bc he I like 7ft
1Celticsfan34205 4 months ago
i dunno why i think this but watching this video and his records i think he is the best of all the times !!
TheBenyi28 4 months ago 4
@TheBenyi28: I made a spreadsheet to gauge the value of NBA players by using a mathematical model based on average events for each category so that I could add point values for all stat categories. Wilt had by FAR the best score in my system. I'm still adding players from 1984 to present, but I've got all the "name" players in there, and Wilt is BY FAR the best player of all time.
It goes:
Wilt, Magic, Lebron James, Oscar Robertson, Jordan, Bird, Iverson, Jerry West, Chris Paul, then Wade
Biswalt 1 month ago
@Biswalt IDK what system ur using and its great Wilt gets his due but it must be a whack system if Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, and Hakeem Olajuwon are not above Iverson, LBJ, Chris Paul, and D-Wade. That is y the PER system is so whack w/ D-Wade, CP3, and LBJ being above Magic, Bird, and Russell despite accounting for 11 MVPS and 19 titles compared to D-Wade, LBJ, and CP3 only putting up 2 MVPS and 1 Title.
BNS224 1 month ago
@BNS224: I use my own system and it's VERY accurate, I guarantee that you would think so if you saw it.
The reason all those guys are better than Bird, Magic, etc. Is that there is progression in the league. Every year guys have been training harder and under better conditions with better diets, etc. Why would the talent pool get worse?
Don't get me wrong I like guys like Bird, Magic, and Russell, but if you had Bird and Lebron in a 1-on-1 do you really think he'd outplay LeBron? u high?
Biswalt 1 month ago
@Biswalt All the great players were not only able to put up phenomenal numbers but also impact their teams. Basketball is not a one-on-one sport. If the Bird vs LBJ matchup took place within a 5 on 5 game setting I would take Bird in a heartbeat. Much better shooter, great vision, smarter (probably 1st or 2nd smartest player ever), much better in the clutch, and mentally tougher. LBJ was contained by a 38 yr old Jason Kidd and got lit up by Terry. Bird would have a field day.
BNS224 1 month ago
@Biswalt i totally agree wilt was by far the greatest basketball player that ever played the game
djwc6 1 month ago
@djwc6 @Biswalt you haven't even seen him playing man!how can you even say that without knowing basic stuff,like the competition he had??
anastiapapa 1 month ago
10 years after he retired, Chamberlain taught basketball to NBA players at the UCLA gym. Kiki saw him jam right over 4 guys - David Greenwood & Mark Eaton were two of them.
Wilt taught Eaton how to guard in the paint, how to avoid wearing out his legs, how to rebound, how to block shots.
When Magic talked trash, Wilt blocked every single one of Magic's shots
This was when he was in his 40s
ZipperZappleZ 4 months ago
Wilt's 7'2 or 7'3 and the one guarding him are 6'7-6'9(Bill Russell's height). LOL. I'm not disrespecting the legend, it's a fact... and no one can deny he's talent and greatness.
MyVicariousness28 4 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 No doubt Wilt had a couple of inches but Russell was the 7th best high jumper in the world coming out of college and could run the 440 in 49 seconds while WIlt could shot put 53 ft, run the 100 meter in 10.9 seconds and run the 880 in under 2 minutes. These guys were both superb athletes and made for one helluva matchup.
BNS224 4 months ago
was just reading hub pages... this guy had 227 double doubles in a row... 35 field goals in a row... 18 for 18 fg in a game... 33 wins in a row... quadruple doubles in playoffs against the Celtics
stere0brain 4 months ago
he tight but noone ever better than jordan yall just doing favorites get to my level
123456patriots 4 months ago
no one will ever be able to be compared to wilt not jordan not shaq nor dwight howard..... hands down the greatest player and most dominant of ALL TIME
kb241995 4 months ago
idk to me i prefer wilt more than jordan. i just think wilts better . 48 min per a season damn.
kfjfjgjjfvjgf 5 months ago
@kfjfjgjjfvjgf Wilt, Russel, Jerry West the Logo, Jerry Lucas, DeBusschere over in Detroit... Oscar - - they are the reason there is a NBA today. They created modern basketball
Wilt = GOAT still to this day
stere0brain 4 months ago
why don't people do hook shots anymore : (
rangerbylaw 5 months ago
@rangerbylaw i do it and im 12
LegendKiller4279 4 months ago
@LegendKiller4279 and your point is?
Xx11256xX 4 months ago
@Xx11256xX my point is that i can do hook shots at this age
LegendKiller4279 4 months ago
@LegendKiller4279 age doesn't make a difference
Xx11256xX 4 months ago
Wilt in my opinion is better than mj
therealethan1 5 months ago 20
@therealethan1 No, at all!
Jemapelbulgarel 3 months ago
@therealethan1 so are larry and magic
chatarapha 3 months ago
@therealethan1 noooo way!
LCFCKris 3 months ago
@therealethan1 Of course he was better, he not just averaged 30 points per game through all his career, but he averaged too 24 rebounds and almost 5 assist (and blocks weren't counted...)
PhillyDippy5 3 months ago
They should put Wilt on the NBA2k12 cover! Anyone agree?
swaguymusicpage 5 months ago 19
@swaguymusicpage i can't fuckin agree more...i want wilt on my nba2k12 cover
Antwnhs92 5 months ago
@swaguymusicpage Hell YES!
tank3ful 5 months ago
wilt chamberlain best ever no one will ever be beter than wilt one year avraged 50 points per game and he is a center dunking was too easy to wilt he liked to challage self unlike lebrone unable to win championship
SuperCjster 5 months ago
I don't get why Wilt is considered by many to be the best. Numbers mean a lot, yes, but they are not everything. You have to consider other qualitative factors in as well. I would argue that Wilt performed the way he did because people in general were just way smaller, shorter, weaker, and could not jump as high back then. Humans are continually increasing in size. Weight lifting and vertical jump training are as popular as ever. The question is how he would have fared against today's athletes.
ShinyBlackRims 5 months ago
@ShinyBlackRims Yeah but that question can never really be answered as far as how he would fare in the NBA today. Wilt as an individual dominated against the competition he faced more than anyone in the NBA before or since. I mean Shaq was bigger than his competition and never led the NBA in Scoring and Rebounding in the same season, WIlt did it like 5 times. I am not saying WIlt had the best overall basketball skill set but he was the most dominating individual player the NBA has had so far.
BNS224 5 months ago
@BNS224 That's what I was thinking all along. If by dominance we measure which player is the best, then Wilt is. If we're talking about skill then its a different discussion.
ShinyBlackRims 5 months ago
@ShinyBlackRims I agree, when it comes to overall basketball skills the 4 that come to mind are Magic, Larry, Michael, and Oscar. If there are any other contenders I am all ears, but those 4 seem like the most complete players. If i had to choose one I would take Magic but I could totally see arguments for the other 3.
BNS224 5 months ago
@BNS224 since you are all ears perhaps you can answer this,what player retired with most fgs in a playoff game,most assists in a playoff game,most rebounds in a playoff game and although unofficial,most blocked shots in a playoff game.that is of course wilt chamberlain.
djwc6 5 months ago
@djwc6 WIlt was the most dominant player so far but its not like Wilt could handle the ball or shoot from the midrange or beyond. His freethrows were horrible. As far as actual basketball skills he was not the most complete. Magic went for like 40 pts, 15 reb, 7 ast as rookie to clinch the 1980 Finals starting at center.
BNS224 5 months ago
@BNS224 there is no doubt that magic had a phenomenal game and is one of the all time greats,wilt however scored 53 as a rookie in the playoffs (setting the nba playoff record at the time) and in the next series against boston grabbed 35 rebounds against bill russell.If you would watch enough video of wilt what you would discover was that his fall away jumper was deadly in the midrange and he was very good at the corner shot however with no 3 pt line he was discouraged from shooting long shots
djwc6 5 months ago
@djwc6 Wilts fallaway bank shot was very effective but b/c the key was smaller till around the mid 1960's its hard to judge how far his fallaway took place from.His freethrows were terrbile though. I am more of a Wilt and Bird fan but its hard not to pick Magic as far as being the most complete player. Wilt did put up some unreal numbers though that are even difficult to achieve in video games.
BNS224 5 months ago
@BNS224 Wilt's had 4 fadeaways.
* He had the 8' (in his early years it was just outside the block)
* 12 to 15' taken from either corner of the FT line in to the paint .
* & the 15 foot, virtually always from the left side.
The 15' was only one part of his post up arsenal. He had at least 7 lethal moves from the left block.
The famous finger roll was unblockable because the defender didn't know if he was gonna spin, fadeaway, or dunk.
Dirk's entire post game was invented 50 years ago by Wilt
stere0brain 5 months ago
@BNS224 wilt was a terribly inconsistent free throw shooter that is for sure,he might go 0 for 10 one night and then hit 86% on another night (such as the night he scored 100 pts he was 28 of 32 from the free throw line) but that is at least partially attributable to his coaches,who would allow him to take free throws from just inside the top of the key and continually change techniques,of course it doesn't help when you have eight different coaches in a 14 year career.
djwc6 5 months ago
@ShinyBlackRims name one,just one,player in the nba in 2011 that is bigger stronger faster and has more stamina than chamberlain.the list is zero,its just an impossible combination.
djwc6 5 months ago
@ShinyBlackRims Jerry West could stick scotch tape above the square around the basket. For a guy 6'3 that's about a 42" vert. Gus Johnson, Elgin Baylor, Connie Hawkins all had terrific vertical leap. Bill Russell was ranked #7 in the world as a high jumper. Chamberlain cleared 6'6" in high jump using an untrained Western Roll.
Nate Thurmond, 6'11 260 lbs was the same size as Dampier (tho FAR more skilled). Chamberlain shrugged his shoulders on a rebound and Nate went flying into the bleachers.
stere0brain 5 months ago
@ShinyBlackRims People were not smaller, shorter, nor weaker. The game was a race, one of the main strategies was to run your opponent into the ground. Whoever had more 4th quarter stamina wins.
Havlicek today would run any player into the ground. His lungs were 30% larger than a normal man.
Running on a cinder track with pathetic shoes, Jesse Owens 1936 Olympic time was .4 second slower than Bolt, who runs with incredible shoes on special track engineered to add spring to your step.
GTWSOH
stere0brain 5 months ago
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ShinyBlackRims 5 months ago
@stere0brain As for "Havlicek today would run any player into the ground," that is slippery slope at its worst.
Unless you have figures for mile times and full court sprints to start backing up your claims, your statement is just another, "That person would do this today." How do you know? What's to prevent anyone from claiming anything if this logic is correct? Would-haves, could-haves, and will-do's are invalid forms of argument.
ShinyBlackRims 5 months ago
@stere0brain Slippery slope is weak and illogical. Maybe YOU should your WEAK SHIT out of here and learn how to use logic properly. Whatever you say won't change anything about how strong so and so players are. I'll leave you to act here alone as a keyboard warrior who can't find better ways to prove himself.
ShinyBlackRims 5 months ago
@ShinyBlackRims true. It's an opinion & I shoulda said it's opinion, you're right about that.
stere0brain 5 months ago
Wilt the Stilt. The best ever. No need to say more.
shaboo2 6 months ago 2
Jordan is the greatest player of all time if u think differnt then ur dumb no one cld stop his airiness
nathansutphin0319 6 months ago
Wilt is the most dominating individual player in NBA history, russell is the greatest team player (knowing how to best utilize his skills in order to get the most out of his team). As far as overall basketball skills its a toss up between Magic, Larry, Michael, and Oscar.
BNS224 6 months ago
@BNS224 Pete Maravich had skills far better than all those guys. Astronomical better. Not close.
But he couldn't play defense whatsoever they invented matador just for his lameness
Now Russell gets all the glory but my view on that is different. Sam Jones, who after all only won 10 rings, was the greatest team player ever.
Agree on Chamberlain though, he's still to this day the greatest of all
ZipperZappleZ 6 months ago
walt dukes was a lot like rodman,he led the league in ejections four straight seasons(an nba record) he was not a great scorer but was considered the first fast,quick and athletic 7 footer,he is also considered the best basketball player to come out of seton hall and still holds their all time rebounding record.
djwc6 6 months ago
pele of basketball
thomaswidjanarko 6 months ago
saw a block of his the ball was at least 14 feet up no one could have shot on him no way
CiaoRenata 6 months ago
@CiaoRenata Thrue he was the ultimate shot blocker , was big , had huge vertical and had great timing to jump . He could block things what all other players in nba history could not .
garioldwin 6 months ago
Greatest player ever, hands down. Larry Bird even called Wilt the greatest.
raptors11111 6 months ago
Greatest Kansas Jayhawk to ever play the game. Sorry Paul Pierce, Jo Jo White, Danny Manning, etc....
kuwinsitall 6 months ago
It's a shame that he didn't make it to 2000.
He passed away during the 1999 NBA pre-season.
webstedge1099 6 months ago
a great tribute to the incomparable wilt chamberlain. there's no way any modern player could have stopped his classic turn-around jump shot from the first half of his career, and likewise with the soaring finger roll. nor would anyone be able to out rebound him, or block more shots.
yusufu9 6 months ago 19
@yusufu9 alot of players have un stoppable moves. one of my favorites is steve nash's reverse no look layup.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@yusufu9 You have to remember that he quit in 1972 (or '73, it doesn't matter), aka 40 years ago... Basketball was not the same sport you see today... In my opinion it's simply unfair compairing playerd that played before the 80's with the ones that play these days (even comparing Magic to Wilt is unfair, in 10 years the game devoloped so much!)
Jemapelbulgarel 3 months ago
@Jemapelbulgarel yes, pro sports change over the years, but truly exceptional athletes can play in any era, and those from the past would have benefited from new diets, training, medical care, etc. you may not be aware that wilt continued to play pick-up games at ucla with nba stars even in to his late 40s. coach larry brown and kiki vanderwegh report the incident where wilt decided to completely shut down magic's team, and blocked every shot in sight. both said he would still dominate now!
yusufu9 3 months ago
Greatest player in NBA history... 30 23 4.5 & probably 4 or 5
musikaNeues 7 months ago
most overrated player ever. he's the biggest choker in NBA history.
idontnoapassword 7 months ago
@idontnoapassword i think you have him mistaken for lebron
WildDanHibiki 6 months ago 4
@WildDanHibiki wilt chamberlain is the only play in NBA history to put up 50.4 a game. he's now for being a center to lead the league in assists (8.4 rpg) and grab a bunch of rebound (27.2). but when it came to the playoffs. his 50 point season turned into a 35 point playoff run. his 44ppg season into a 38ppg season. that is called choking my friend. lebron did the same thing but wilt had the greatest drop in play durin the post season.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword Wilt Chamberlain is by far the greatest playoff player of all time . The guy has 22.5 ppg , 24.5 rebs , 4.2 assists and god knows how manny blocks as his playoff average . To say he choked in playoffs would be apsurd .
garioldwin 6 months ago
@garioldwin having those kinds of stats are great but when you put up a unreal number of 50ppg and drop to 25ppg that's is called choking. A clutch player is someone who does better when needed not worse. playoff stats should go up not drop.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword Wilts stats never dropped in the playoffs from the 66' season to 73' that i am sure . As for his earlier season when he got 50ppg his stats did dropped but he played 4 games against Boston Celtics which had Bill Russell and Syracuse Nationals 4 games. Ever considered that his average was lower becouse he played half of those games against the best defensive team and defensive player in the league ? As for you ignorance , Wilts team did not make the playoffs when he had 44ppg .
garioldwin 6 months ago
@garioldwin ya he did play against bill russel but that wasn't until the conference final. even bill russel came through the play off by scoring more points then he did in the regular season. As for your ignorance, Wilt played more then 4 games against the celtics he played 7.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword Lol i dont get it? He played only against the Syracuse Nationals in division semi finals and division finals against Boston Celtics .There were no more playoff opponents for his team Yes i was wrong about the number of games but what you just said proves my point even more . Wilt played in that playoffs 7 games against the Celtics and only 5 games against Syracuse Nationals . Youre making fool of yourself .
garioldwin 6 months ago
@garioldwin You said he played against hard defensive teams. the only 2 teams he played were syracuse nationals and celtics yes. but syracuse nationals werent a hard defending team. LEt's say wilt played his 50ppg moments against the the 76ers. Then he put up around 25ppg and probably closer to 20 rpg.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword No , he played most of his games in 1962. playoffs against the best defensive team , thats what i meant to say . Even if youre gonna look your way you still cant call Wilt the greatest choker in nba history just becouse he had one or two seasons in his career lower playoff average then his season average . It doesnt make sense .
garioldwin 6 months ago
@garioldwin i'm sorry i didn't mean to call him the great choker i ment to say overrated.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword.From 1959-1966 wilt chamberlain averaged 33pts,26rebs and 3 assists for a total of 62 nobody in their best year comes close to wilt averages, he put up such incomparable numbers that the only person he can be compared to is himself
djwc6 6 months ago
okay well 26 rebs overrated. The only reason why is because the amount of shots taken. less time standing. Less fauls drawn. The strongest arguement i have for sayin that the fact that his 26 rebounds weren't such a feet of strength is bill russell would put up 24rpg. Even bob pettit avg. somewere between 15-18 rpg. Also i hope your talkin bout centers cus jordans first 6 years (excluding his 2nd) was 33ppg. 6apg 7rbg and would have been more in the 60s. not to mention wilts 53%from the ft.
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword both bob petit and bill russell were 6'9"but bob petit was a hall of fame forward,bill russell was the second greatest rebounder of all time(to wilt) if kevin love can get 30 rebounds in a game i'm pretty sure russell and chamberlain would get 40 or 50.as for jordan his 33+6+7=46 isn't even close to chamberlains 62 so go compare mj to kobe or lebron because no one can be compared to wilt.
djwc6 6 months ago
but getting 25rpg isn't impressive. i understand they were great HOFplayer buts what your sayin is there hasn't been a rebounder since the wilt era. Even the new york knicks who had a lossing streak had 2ppl avg. 13 and 11rpg while dwight howard avg. 14 in these days. the n.y.knicks had 2people score over 25points pg. one being 29ppg. yet they had a losing streak. Stats are so overrated when you talk about wilt's era. Being such shaq or abdul kareem jabbar would dominate in those times. fact
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword dennis rodman avg about 19 rebounds per game in a season playing only 40 min.rebounds are there in any era.but as they say theres no such thing as a free lunch you have to expend energy to rebound.kareem was a great rebounder but in his 27 meetings against chamberlain,who was in his mid thirties at the time,he was outrebounded 491 to 422.
djwc6 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword so you've compared one of the greatest scorers in michael jordan to wilt,then you compared two hall of fame centers to wilt when talking about rebounds,so next when we talk about assists you'll be forced to bring up magic or oscar robertson,who you going to compare to wilt when we talk about blocked shots.do you get my point yet,he was by far the greatest basketball player ever.
djwc6 6 months ago
@djwc6 Did you not understand what my last mesg said?
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword i'm not saying shaq or kareem wouldn't dominate,they are both hall of famers and all-time greats,any of the greats would dominate in any era.i was pointing out that as a man in his mid 30s chamberlain was still a better rebounder than kareem was in his prime.as for stats being overated then jordans stat of going from 37.1 to 43.7 reg season to playoffs is way over-rated since all that came of it was a three game sweep.
djwc6 6 months ago
@djwc6 i'm sorry i didn't mean to say kareem abdul jabbar (notice i spelt his name wrong) i ment to say dwight howard idk why i said kareem.wanted a comparison of 2 of the better re bounders of todays era. Dwight howard career avg is 13 rpg and one of the best centers in the NBA. arguably the best. but walter dukes avg. 11 for his career avg. does that put both of them on the same level as each other for rebounding? that a avg. player in the 60s is as good as the best of the 2000s?
idontnoapassword 6 months ago
@idontnoapassword lol scoring 35 ppg in the playoffs is amazing still, and also it wasn't that Wilt choked, it's that he played the Boston Celtics over and over in the playoffs a team that had 8 hall of fame players.
TheArchangles982 5 months ago
whats the name of the song?!
govnar231315e 7 months ago
@govnar231315e who cares? it's a good tune, leave it alone the stupid corporations troll youtube and demand clips be taken down all the time
ZipperZappleZ 6 months ago
@govnar231315e
mazzy star's fade into you
10000yearsago 6 months ago
Wilt is Shaq Grandpa.
geniousboy510 7 months ago
4:07 i feel really bad fr whoever that ball was coming towards
frostywayz 7 months ago
@habibihouse, You're probably right, contemporary centers have evolved to huge, strong and agile players in today's NBA. Wilt was the prototype in this position and dominated the league facing no opposition at that time.The only formidable centers I could think of were Russell, Big"E" Elvin Hayes SDiego Rockets, Dave Cowens Celtics, Nate Thurmond SF Warriors and Wes Unseld Baltimore Bullets and listing at only 6'8".
mistressofaminer 7 months ago
@mistressofaminer ..And just where are all these "huge, strong, agile" centers in today's NBA? There's D.Howard, then the list drops off. Wilt went against Russell, Bellamy(6'11") Reed(6'10)Thurmond(6'11"), Lanier(6'11") and Kareem(7'2") when he was young, 8-10 times a season. Less teams, better centers nightly. I wo