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seems to be pottasium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide in water, (doesn't seem to matter if distilled or not)..both of these are EXTREMELY caustic and need care when using (product to water NOT water to product)
actually common sense says engines shouldnt run when a car stops. oh, and you might as well try to put a fan on a sail boat. 1lpm is like farting in walmart, and expecting the propane powered fork lift to get better economy. how many cfm does a prius consume? hundreds.
@harrymook How does a combustion engine fit the billet of Carnot's engine? Carnot's engine is regarding a simple thermal engine, not a combustion engine that works by the expansion of gas in a restricted volume...
looks like the most copied hho generator design in the world, lemme guess, 11 3.5 inch 18 gauge 316L stainless plates, 3 holes in plate, 1/4" hose barbs..
@Me102288 yes, I agree. It is the perfect design for someone who wants to learn about HHO technology. I highly recommend the 11-plate kit but if you cannot afford the full kit, at least get the 11-plate dry cell and reservoir, they are matched and the highest quality.
@amos033 I bought it because drycells are more effecient, if the edges of the plate ar in the water you get electrical loss from the electricity takeing the path of least reistance (around the edges' of plate electrode's)
another advantage is plate cells have more surface area for hydrogen an oxygen to form on.:-) Honestly I studied about it a lot before I bought one, mines running a small engine, the engine is tuning a permanent magnet alternater.. I'm looking to make one with 12 inch plates
Hello my friend, I live in Brazil, wanted to assemble a kit for my car, it could pass the measure as plate thickness, width, length or assembly diagram, be grateful, hugs, Amauri Correa da Fonseca. Email: amauri12009@uol.com.br
@MGBPrince hho generator (2parts hydrogen 1part oxygen) right now BMW hydrogen 7 is a car that runs on hydrogen from a tank... this is generating it on demand.. generate enough, you can replace all other fuels on the planet with it.
CaraBrimleyRules you are an idiot! What the hell does this have to do with physics? This is proven science and chemistry you dumbass...physics is about the laws of motion. Get a fucking college degree before you try to sound intelligent.
@GhostThriller some of them are submerged in a tank to allow the stainless plates to crate bubbles in the tank then they float up and out the top.this one the water runs thru the plates(note holes drilled in center of plates) and is sealed by the black 0 rings u see between the plates. so its more of a self contained hho gen. than a dry gen.
CaraBrimleyRules whines on about 'can't get something for nothing' blah blah blah If he's so smart and what he says is true then how much did he pay to be born? He got to live... for nothing! hahaha Really depends upon how you see things, doesn't it!
Hello, there is possibility of providing more detailed this project to my email, I hope to make a generator to put in my car and pass on to my friends.
I keep seeing everyone calling these "Dry Cell" Its not dry you just store the solution in a different spot.... Its still uses liquid. A dry cell actual combines Hydrogen and oxygen to generate 24 volts of electricity and emits water.
I've seen very little details on the internet on making and putting together a dry cell unit. This is what I've been searching for, but with a fast action video, I didn't learn a single thing about it! I've seen the other types but not enough for this type of HHO generator.
@CANTUSEACAMERA you can use AL for the cathode i believe but not the anode, as the positive charge breaks down the aluminium oxide layer over and over again and will eventually sulphate the entire anode until is disappears, same as copper.
The theory of thermo dynamics does not fully apply here and this is where people get confused in thinking it can't be possible. But the fact of the chemical process of electrolysis releases a big volume of Hydrogen and oxygen gas. When this HHO gas is combined with the poorly inefficient internal combustion engine (18%) it helps to promote a more complete combustion and with less emissions. This is where the magic happens over thermo dynamics. It helps improve the overall engine efficiency.
The weight of the hho system is about 10lbs. If your car can't handle an extra 10lbs, then you need a new one. The alternator produces a wasteful amount of extra energy. The hho generator taps into the wasted amps to run. It don't take more then the engine can put out. The hydrogen burns at a lower temp then gas. So it ignites sooner. The oxygen burns hotter giving it more hp. This is simple physics and chemistry. Do your homework before you come here and try to say it don't work.
@dexdrako as it was explained to me by one who had alphabet soup behind his name, the math says it works (i watched him work it out). basicly, the HHO is suppose to improve the efficiency of the engine. if the engine (just pulling numbers) runs at 60% efficiency to get 24 mpg, the HHO taxes the system maybe .5 to 1% to make the gas that goes into the combustion to raise engine efficiency to say 70% or better, no physics violation and all workable. claims of 200mpg i take with a ton of salt.
@chosen1atWork first I was talking about running a car on pure HHO but my point still stands. everything looks good on paper but it rarely works that way in real life. HHO will make a gasoline engine run better because of the extra oxygen to burn, just like enjecting Nox does. but he doesn't take in to acount the energy it takes to make the HHO on borad , the added stress on the engine, the waight of the HHO system or any of the other factors that would hurt his view point.
@dexdrako well.. there are videos on here that show an engine running on pure HHO... what kind of power it takes to do that they dont say (the engine is setup in a stand, not in a vehile). as far as the other, you should speak with those who have one in their vehicle (i dont have one on mine... yet). One man i know of has one on his truck and only gets 2 mpg more than normal (15% increase) and is happy to get that. as i said, b warry of the 200 mpg claims, but some of the others apear reasonab
You can't compress pure HHO beyond 15 lbs of pressure or it auto ignites. It's perfectly safe to add to your vehicle's intake though, the concentration isn't strong enough to ignite when mixed with extra air, but acts as a catalyst to boost fuel efficiency. Similar effect to adding a small amount of nitrous oxide, except you can't store HHO in a compressed tank, or BOOM, so you need to create it on demand without pressurizing it.
@FlyingHighInAC@FlyingHighInAC I agree it is completely unstable and not safe to compress- but it has been done. These guys run their Dodge Ram pickup completely off HHO- and it's no lightweight geometro etc...
@FlyingHighInAC@FlyingHighInAC I agree it is completely unstable and not safe to compress- but it has been done. These guys run their Dodge Ram pickup completely off HHO- and it's no lightweight geometro etc...
@dexdrako i know jack about science and am trying to learn more about this stuff. but ive been a "grease monkey" since in diapers.your "1) cant compress or would explode" as being a reason a car cant run on it is as rediculous a thing ive ever heard. unless im just reading/undertanding your meaning wrong..i have been up 30 hrs and exhausted.. but!!!that explosion is what u want to happen- ence internal "combustion"..that explosion, no matter the fuel is what pushes the pistons down and around..
@twb74aol what he means is that HHO is a combustable fuel as is, where as petrol requires the addiction of free oxygen to allow for it to burn. Because hho has such a low autoignition temp, when you compress it to 1 bar, and the fact it has free oxygen in it (h + H + o) it can ignite and combust. lp gas can be compressed, and without the free oxygen at 500psi will become LPG and this is how it is stored for automotive use in cars as you would know.
I say thank you to Hydrovin and any one else who takes action to make the world a better place. Kudos to you sir for taking action to make a beneficial change to the world. No one can disagree that we must find alternate energy sources. Every action taken in that process no matter how small is at least by me truly appreciated .
It's not technically a scam. You can get increased mileage form using HHO gas because the increase in flame speed more efficiently ignites the mixture resulting in more power. This can be effective in in increasing mpg by virtue of being able to consume less of whatever fossil fuel and keeping at the current output of the engine to do work. Like any system, you must tune it to get results. This technology has been around since the 1880's . Yes ask the ?'s why is this not a standard. But, who 2 ?
people crack me up if they believe its a scam then why must they continue to watch videos involving such process involving other forms of energy production believe it or not heres a little picture i had a 3500 watt audio system that drew a current of 340 amps from 3 batteries one 100 amp alternator why did i always get an average of 25 mpg driving and accelerating fast any where i went with nothing else on the car stock bmw?
If you don't believe, science is fluid... It's time to take a look at the history of "known" facts. Once, there was a time where, according to science, it was not possible to travel at the speed of sound. Current day facts show, we not only can do so, but have the ability to go at least 3x that rate. I doubt most of you posters, are nobel prize winning physicists. Without new advances, there is nothing left to learn. We will never know everything there is to know.
Until there is sufficient, real world data under controlled, and consistent circumstances, I have no argument one way or another. Historically speaking, there have been a lot of equations, calculations, and laws that have been written AND changed from new advances. It is possible, when certain known variables become unknown, a new equation or law must be written. We, as a society, still do not know all the laws of physics, or the variables. Science, is ever changing. Historically speaking.
It takes more current and thus drag on the alternator belt to separate the hydrogen than you will get back in the form of power.
It makes money, but only for the guys who sell kits to gullible people who haven't got a clue about the first law of thermodynamics, which basically states you can't get something for nothing. The energy of a closed system remains constant.
@CaraBrimleyRules You sound like you read alot and you are accurate somewhat in your statement. The retort to that is that the altenator produces excess electric that is not used. These systems use as much current as some car stereos and the last time I checked, you get pretty much the same milage with the radio on as you do with it off. Common sence says that if you replace the air mixture with a hydrogen mixture you should use less fossil fuel. The solution is probable something simple.
@Hydrovin The alternator doesn't produce current which isn't used. If it isn't used, it wont be produced. It's a bit like opening a tap. The current can't flow if it has nowhere to go. The alternator is spinning free with very little resistance apart from a bit of belt and bearing friction. As soon as you open the tap to an HHO generator or anything else, huge currents like 20-40A start to flow, the alternator is under load and there is huge drag on the pulley/belt. This slows the engine.
@CaraBrimleyRules Naturally, you may get some benefit from the combustion of hydrogen or the hydrogen helping the flame front speed or whatever. But, anything you do get will be balanced by the alternator drag on the engine. By the time you have taken of losses in the system such as heat in the wires & the generator, you'll end up with a negative effect.
People may state they get increased mpg, but this is brought about by a willingness to prove the idea and exercising extreme economy driving.
@Hydrovin Its not that you use less fossil fuel, Its that you burn a higher percentage of it during combustion, thus reducing the amount of wasted energy in your exhaust.
@Hydrovin If you are using less hydrocarbons (fuel, gas) and replacing some of that with hho, you need to lean out your mixture (of hydrocarbon fuel). The only way to really take control of what your ecu seeks out to find stoichiometric and "lie" to it is a wideband O2 sensor and a stand alone ecu (one you can map yourself)
@CaraBrimleyRules Sad thing is you dont have a clue and probably havent even tried it. Ive got a system running right now that went from 19 mpg to 28.6. It is real and yeah it might wear out an alternator but Ill take that chance with fuel being so high.
@whey20010 Go and read up on the first and second laws of thermodynamics and come back when you have something sensible to say.
One empirical result you have got under conditions that were more likely than not uncontrolled, does not invalidate the known laws of the universe. That is not how science works. If you don't believe that, email a professor of mechanical engineering at a university near you and see what they have to say on the matter.
@CaraBrimleyRules That's dumb man there's millions of reasons people come up with that say this shouldn't work and it cant be done properly or controlled. Ive got my system controlled with a constant 30 amp pull from the alternator using a PWM. I know exactly what temp my water runs at all times and what amps I'm pulling. I don't allow thermal creep to happen in my system so I don't think my system can personally be any more controlled. That's the fun in it, the experimenting.
@whey20010 So you're pulling 30 amps. The process of generating that moves the alternator core through the magnetic fields around the stator wires. This drags the alternator pulley which slows the engine. You are not getting that current "for free". Disconnect the HHO generator and that current wont flow & you wont have the drag. This is the mistake that people make. They assume because the alternator is spinning anyway, there is no difference. As soon as you draw current the drag starts.
@CaraBrimleyRules well yes, but. its not supposed to provide more power. just alternate power. if properly made hho processors can increase your mpg by a few or alot. it dosen't really matter what the draw of the Alt does, put a brushless alt with a higher amp rating and you will have less drag and more energy. even if this only increases your mpg by say 5 miles, isn't it worth it. over the course of a day, or week, mabye not, but how long do you keep your vehicles. over time its worth it.
@MrTwisterPM Yes a system's efficiency can be improved, but only in certain ways. You can't use mechanical energy to create electrical energy to convert to chemical energy and convert that back to mechanical energy. That just introduces conversion losses.
The mistake people who advocate HHO generators in cars make, is they say you are getting the electrical energy anyway cos the alternator was spinning anyway. They don't realise that the more current you draw, the more you drag on the engine.
@Infinitevoyager Well if you were right, auto manufacturers would be fitting HHO devices to their products. Why should they spend billions on other fuel economy develpoment measures like wind tunnels, drag, turbos, and engine mods? Yet they don't fit a simple mod that any hobbyist can knock up to some degree or other?
Answer = It doesn't work.
Don't come back with some conspiracy theory between them and petroleum companies because they bend over backwards to achieve fuel efficency otherwise.
@CaraBrimleyRules Yeah whatever, go ahead and keep your head buried far up there, negative thinkers like the darkness. Things are no longer a conspiracy when they have been proven over and over and over, hundreds of times. They are called truth. Well.....except for those wallowing in their own ignorance. The very energy that allows you to be alive, the zero point field, it can be tapped into. And please spare me any religious rhetoric and dogma. It has done enough damage to humanity already.
@Infinitevoyager You didn't answer my point. If HHO is a proven benefit, why isn't it being fitted by Auto Makers as standard, as other fuel economy measures are?
@CaraBrimleyRules People now a days need a light to come on to check there oil. There are auto manufactures out there that have prototype cars that run on hho. Japan has implemented the use of it to get more mpg from what I have seen. But why may you ask would some one not have the ingenuity to create such devices that can be put together with some scrap stainless and home depot supplies for one reason. The more gas you use the more money they make the Government. Plain and simple.
@djrodriguezthizz There are no cars running on HHO derived from the engine alternator, only compressed hydrogen separated in an industrial process and brought in as a fuel like petrol/gas which is something different.
Your usage of gas conspiracy argument does not make any sense. If this were true, then why design and implement aerodynamic cars or smoothflow exhausts etc etc etc ??? These mods use less gas so they would be suppressed by the Gov/manuf if your theory was true. They are not. QED.
@steven0577 This conspiracy theory of yours makes zero logical sense because car manufacturers have been struggling to make all sorts of other improvements, eg Aero dynamic fuel efficiency, extra valves, smooth flow technology & reducing the time between maintenance cutting on servicing bills.
If what you say is true they wouldn't have bothered making any of these improvements. But they do, so the value of your argument is zero.
The real reason they don't fit HHO is because it doesn't work.
@CaraBrimleyRules It is not a replacement for fuel, just a suppliment. You are right, cant get something from nothing which is why an electric charge is still neccessary, that can easily be supplimented with solar panels charging batteries. This is just the start of the revolution...come back and be an asshole in 50 years when it still hasnt gone anywhere.
Why is it that you only send a current through a few of the sheets, and not all of them? Does the current cross over to the other sheets through the water?
I see that you have a positive, three neutral plates; a Negative and three more neutral plates. Why not a positive and a negative +-+-+- and so on? I feel you are losing efficiency. Explain please. And by the way this is a DRY CELL fellas.
@gideonmor how did you overcome the O2 sensor problem? Adding HHO makes O2 sensors read the air/fuel ratio as lean causing additional fuel to be used.
@paladain55 All fuel injected cars have O2 sensors on them to read the mixture of gas and oxygen that the engine is burning. if the sensors detect to much oxygen in the mix (a lean mix) they tell the injectors to add more fuel. If they detect that there is more fuel then normal (burning rich) they add less fuel to the mixture. When you add a Hydrogen Cell to a car, the O2 sensors read that in the exhaust and tell the car to add more fuel. Then you actually end up burning more fuel per mile.
@paladain55 To stop that from happening you need a "Electronic Fuel Injector Enhancer" (EFIE, I know I spelled it wrong before). What it does is allows you to manually adjust the signal strength the O2 sensor receives. In other words, it tricks the sensor into thinking the mixture is still correct so it doesn't add more fuel to compensate. Without one, you wont see any milage gains. Sorry, i know that was a long explanation.
@paladain55 Well if i don't see why you would need one if your car had a carburetor instead, but I could be wrong. The only place i have ever seen to get them is online. There are lots of different suppliers and different cars need different types. Best thing to do is look them up to see what yours needs, then do some online shopping. Take a look at these forms "hhoforms.com" they have a lot of useful information, basically everything you'll need to know. Good luck!
You should measure the efficiency of your cell. IE (chemical energy gained)/(electrical energy in). If it's over 100%, well worth building.
By the way, the Flobots suck. I'm from their home town, and have seen them twice because they were booked with better bands. They performed the exact same set both shows, re-using the protest signs from the RATM democratic convention convert. This is their only tolerable song
This is a dry cell because it is not submerged. Instead, the water is piped through the plates. The black rubber o-rings are the insulators so the plates don't touch. The closer the plates the better.
I suggest engraving a bevel on the side of each plate so the rings don't move, seal is better, and the plates will be closer.
You send a DC current through the top bolts.
Enjoy this video for what it is! Simplistic genius. One of the most efficient builds I have seen. Less materials needed.
@illtrax It's not a dry cell at all. There's fucking holes all through the plates that will let the electrolyte/h2o connect between cells. That is the definition of a wet cell. Get it straight.
why do some of you dudes thunk we need to be entertained with your stupid ass music....?
Billmcquil 1 week ago
Video doesn't provide any explanation... remove the music and explain what is going on in the video... PLEASE!
empice2k 2 weeks ago
how many amps will this rig pull to produce a ltr a min????assuming its powered thru PWM
r1ckySV 2 weeks ago
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cenedywong 3 weeks ago
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hollandampsguy 2 months ago
seems to be pottasium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide in water, (doesn't seem to matter if distilled or not)..both of these are EXTREMELY caustic and need care when using (product to water NOT water to product)
whiterabbitciggy 3 months ago
it would of been better you slow down the vid
hotpapayasalad 3 months ago
Mojo Risin
storkfmny 4 months ago
find these type of cells are not efficient... cute however.
frank0067 4 months ago
love this song but i never listen to it , thank you so much
aterack833 4 months ago
i love this song
colerfullcontrollers 4 months ago
много добро изпълнение само размера трябва да е по голям иначе я тествах на колата си и съм пре много доволен от резултата
ana19661966 4 months ago
actually common sense says engines shouldnt run when a car stops. oh, and you might as well try to put a fan on a sail boat. 1lpm is like farting in walmart, and expecting the propane powered fork lift to get better economy. how many cfm does a prius consume? hundreds.
blellblell 5 months ago
I like the song
leschouettes 6 months ago 13
for some reason i want to ride my bike really fast and not hang on to my handle bars...
TheTrueJBV3737 6 months ago
wats the name of the song? and by who
2013212456 7 months ago
@harrymook How does a combustion engine fit the billet of Carnot's engine? Carnot's engine is regarding a simple thermal engine, not a combustion engine that works by the expansion of gas in a restricted volume...
Kensei76 7 months ago
looks like the most copied hho generator design in the world, lemme guess, 11 3.5 inch 18 gauge 316L stainless plates, 3 holes in plate, 1/4" hose barbs..
wired - n n n n + n n n n - :-)
same one I got off HHO2U.com for $140
Me102288 7 months ago
@Me102288 yes, I agree. It is the perfect design for someone who wants to learn about HHO technology. I highly recommend the 11-plate kit but if you cannot afford the full kit, at least get the 11-plate dry cell and reservoir, they are matched and the highest quality.
amos033 7 months ago
@amos033 I bought it because drycells are more effecient, if the edges of the plate ar in the water you get electrical loss from the electricity takeing the path of least reistance (around the edges' of plate electrode's)
another advantage is plate cells have more surface area for hydrogen an oxygen to form on.:-) Honestly I studied about it a lot before I bought one, mines running a small engine, the engine is tuning a permanent magnet alternater.. I'm looking to make one with 12 inch plates
Me102288 7 months ago
@amos033 I would bother with the kit anyways, I already have everything hehe,... fathers an electronics tech.
and these llittle kits are cheap enough just to rig together, 2 of them with help a 4 cylinder car with fuel milaege, just like 1 big one.
Me102288 7 months ago
fuerte
coopmunchique 8 months ago
idk how practical it is but it sure is cool
jjppmm29 8 months ago
Hello my friend, I live in Brazil, wanted to assemble a kit for my car, it could pass the measure as plate thickness, width, length or assembly diagram, be grateful, hugs, Amauri Correa da Fonseca. Email: amauri12009@uol.com.br
fonsecaamauri 9 months ago
LOL
xGuest10101 9 months ago
Olá meu amigo, sou do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, tem como mandar as medida para que possa monta um, abraços.
Email: amauri12009@uol.com.br
fonsecaamauri 9 months ago
where did you get all the parts?
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Uneakdawg 9 months ago
Ok this might be stupid but isnt that a tesla generator or something?!
MGBPrince 9 months ago
@MGBPrince hho generator (2parts hydrogen 1part oxygen) right now BMW hydrogen 7 is a car that runs on hydrogen from a tank... this is generating it on demand.. generate enough, you can replace all other fuels on the planet with it.
Me102288 7 months ago
CaraBrimleyRules you are an idiot! What the hell does this have to do with physics? This is proven science and chemistry you dumbass...physics is about the laws of motion. Get a fucking college degree before you try to sound intelligent.
poisonblood696 9 months ago
Lousy video.
Stupid music and no explanation,
cannot see details because you are going too fast.
I would rather hear you talk about what you are doing and take your time.
lucky51762 10 months ago
@lucky51762 WHAT DETAILS DO YOU WANT IS MORE THAN EASY
Mr2503ramon 9 months ago
Do you need water to Run a Dry HHO Cell. idk? I don't see how a Dry Cell can produced HHO without Water? Help please
GhostThriller 10 months ago
@GhostThriller some of them are submerged in a tank to allow the stainless plates to crate bubbles in the tank then they float up and out the top.this one the water runs thru the plates(note holes drilled in center of plates) and is sealed by the black 0 rings u see between the plates. so its more of a self contained hho gen. than a dry gen.
72fordmaverick 10 months ago
CaraBrimleyRules whines on about 'can't get something for nothing' blah blah blah If he's so smart and what he says is true then how much did he pay to be born? He got to live... for nothing! hahaha Really depends upon how you see things, doesn't it!
Itsmeeman1 10 months ago
Excelent desing... but how do u conect the power supply?
UltraDavidson37 10 months ago
whats the go with the sides i never see sides
TheUnDeRGRouNDHoBo 10 months ago
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Hello, there is possibility of providing more detailed this project to my email, I hope to make a generator to put in my car and pass on to my friends.
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altairdesouza 10 months ago
I have a question. That between plates, it's Plexiglas?? and can i use some ordinary plastic?? please answer me.
46denari 10 months ago
the song is hard!
AdventuresOfMrQuest 11 months ago
316 L stainless works best
Mr3rdparty 11 months ago
I keep seeing everyone calling these "Dry Cell" Its not dry you just store the solution in a different spot.... Its still uses liquid. A dry cell actual combines Hydrogen and oxygen to generate 24 volts of electricity and emits water.
4dscreenart 11 months ago
I've seen very little details on the internet on making and putting together a dry cell unit. This is what I've been searching for, but with a fast action video, I didn't learn a single thing about it! I've seen the other types but not enough for this type of HHO generator.
zonofabee 11 months ago
what medal is the medal used?Does anyone know?!
portokalakias 11 months ago
@portokalakias it has to be stainless steel or aluminum, otherwise it rusts and makes your water gross
CANTUSEACAMERA 11 months ago
@CANTUSEACAMERA you can use AL for the cathode i believe but not the anode, as the positive charge breaks down the aluminium oxide layer over and over again and will eventually sulphate the entire anode until is disappears, same as copper.
lynel1985 10 months ago
The theory of thermo dynamics does not fully apply here and this is where people get confused in thinking it can't be possible. But the fact of the chemical process of electrolysis releases a big volume of Hydrogen and oxygen gas. When this HHO gas is combined with the poorly inefficient internal combustion engine (18%) it helps to promote a more complete combustion and with less emissions. This is where the magic happens over thermo dynamics. It helps improve the overall engine efficiency.
Bobsbbqpattaya 1 year ago
The weight of the hho system is about 10lbs. If your car can't handle an extra 10lbs, then you need a new one. The alternator produces a wasteful amount of extra energy. The hho generator taps into the wasted amps to run. It don't take more then the engine can put out. The hydrogen burns at a lower temp then gas. So it ignites sooner. The oxygen burns hotter giving it more hp. This is simple physics and chemistry. Do your homework before you come here and try to say it don't work.
steven0577 1 year ago
yes "big oil" has no interest in going green but what you guys are saying isn'ttrue either.
cars don't run on HHO Gas because
1) can't compress it because compressing a gas makes it heat up which would cause the hydrogen to react with the oxygen and explode.
2) the energy you get from bruning the HHO gas will ALWAYS be less then the energy it took to brake down water to make the same anount of gas.
trust me I know hho gas have alot of real uses but diving a car is not one of them.
dexdrako 1 year ago
@dexdrako as it was explained to me by one who had alphabet soup behind his name, the math says it works (i watched him work it out). basicly, the HHO is suppose to improve the efficiency of the engine. if the engine (just pulling numbers) runs at 60% efficiency to get 24 mpg, the HHO taxes the system maybe .5 to 1% to make the gas that goes into the combustion to raise engine efficiency to say 70% or better, no physics violation and all workable. claims of 200mpg i take with a ton of salt.
chosen1atWork 1 year ago
@chosen1atWork first I was talking about running a car on pure HHO but my point still stands. everything looks good on paper but it rarely works that way in real life. HHO will make a gasoline engine run better because of the extra oxygen to burn, just like enjecting Nox does. but he doesn't take in to acount the energy it takes to make the HHO on borad , the added stress on the engine, the waight of the HHO system or any of the other factors that would hurt his view point.
sorry still no
dexdrako 1 year ago
@dexdrako well.. there are videos on here that show an engine running on pure HHO... what kind of power it takes to do that they dont say (the engine is setup in a stand, not in a vehile). as far as the other, you should speak with those who have one in their vehicle (i dont have one on mine... yet). One man i know of has one on his truck and only gets 2 mpg more than normal (15% increase) and is happy to get that. as i said, b warry of the 200 mpg claims, but some of the others apear reasonab
chosen1atWork 1 year ago
@dexdrako Can't compress HHO? Will explode? And I would NEVER dive in a car. Waaaaaay too bulky.
brokolay 1 year ago
@brokolay
You can't compress pure HHO beyond 15 lbs of pressure or it auto ignites. It's perfectly safe to add to your vehicle's intake though, the concentration isn't strong enough to ignite when mixed with extra air, but acts as a catalyst to boost fuel efficiency. Similar effect to adding a small amount of nitrous oxide, except you can't store HHO in a compressed tank, or BOOM, so you need to create it on demand without pressurizing it.
FlyingHighInAC 10 months ago
@FlyingHighInAC @FlyingHighInAC I agree it is completely unstable and not safe to compress- but it has been done. These guys run their Dodge Ram pickup completely off HHO- and it's no lightweight geometro etc...
Stevennickel 10 months ago
@FlyingHighInAC @FlyingHighInAC I agree it is completely unstable and not safe to compress- but it has been done. These guys run their Dodge Ram pickup completely off HHO- and it's no lightweight geometro etc...
Stevennickel 10 months ago
@dexdrako i know jack about science and am trying to learn more about this stuff. but ive been a "grease monkey" since in diapers.your "1) cant compress or would explode" as being a reason a car cant run on it is as rediculous a thing ive ever heard. unless im just reading/undertanding your meaning wrong..i have been up 30 hrs and exhausted.. but!!!that explosion is what u want to happen- ence internal "combustion"..that explosion, no matter the fuel is what pushes the pistons down and around..
twb74aol 11 months ago
@twb74aol what he means is that HHO is a combustable fuel as is, where as petrol requires the addiction of free oxygen to allow for it to burn. Because hho has such a low autoignition temp, when you compress it to 1 bar, and the fact it has free oxygen in it (h + H + o) it can ignite and combust. lp gas can be compressed, and without the free oxygen at 500psi will become LPG and this is how it is stored for automotive use in cars as you would know.
lynel1985 10 months ago
@CaraBrimleyRules First and for most the reason car manufacturers don't put this device on their cars is this.
1. if they did they stem to loose money because the device runs the engine cooler and cleaner. it cuts don on the need for maintaining and repairs.
2. The big oil companies do pay them money to help keep them in business.
steven0577 1 year ago
I say thank you to Hydrovin and any one else who takes action to make the world a better place. Kudos to you sir for taking action to make a beneficial change to the world. No one can disagree that we must find alternate energy sources. Every action taken in that process no matter how small is at least by me truly appreciated .
Bloc911 1 year ago
It's not technically a scam. You can get increased mileage form using HHO gas because the increase in flame speed more efficiently ignites the mixture resulting in more power. This can be effective in in increasing mpg by virtue of being able to consume less of whatever fossil fuel and keeping at the current output of the engine to do work. Like any system, you must tune it to get results. This technology has been around since the 1880's . Yes ask the ?'s why is this not a standard. But, who 2 ?
Bloc911 1 year ago
SCAM, idiot's
AlternativeEnergy100 1 year ago
people crack me up if they believe its a scam then why must they continue to watch videos involving such process involving other forms of energy production believe it or not heres a little picture i had a 3500 watt audio system that drew a current of 340 amps from 3 batteries one 100 amp alternator why did i always get an average of 25 mpg driving and accelerating fast any where i went with nothing else on the car stock bmw?
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adminh2o 1 year ago
If you don't believe, science is fluid... It's time to take a look at the history of "known" facts. Once, there was a time where, according to science, it was not possible to travel at the speed of sound. Current day facts show, we not only can do so, but have the ability to go at least 3x that rate. I doubt most of you posters, are nobel prize winning physicists. Without new advances, there is nothing left to learn. We will never know everything there is to know.
FTORC1 1 year ago
Until there is sufficient, real world data under controlled, and consistent circumstances, I have no argument one way or another. Historically speaking, there have been a lot of equations, calculations, and laws that have been written AND changed from new advances. It is possible, when certain known variables become unknown, a new equation or law must be written. We, as a society, still do not know all the laws of physics, or the variables. Science, is ever changing. Historically speaking.
FTORC1 1 year ago
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HHO is a scam EFIE or not.
It takes more current and thus drag on the alternator belt to separate the hydrogen than you will get back in the form of power.
It makes money, but only for the guys who sell kits to gullible people who haven't got a clue about the first law of thermodynamics, which basically states you can't get something for nothing. The energy of a closed system remains constant.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules You sound like you read alot and you are accurate somewhat in your statement. The retort to that is that the altenator produces excess electric that is not used. These systems use as much current as some car stereos and the last time I checked, you get pretty much the same milage with the radio on as you do with it off. Common sence says that if you replace the air mixture with a hydrogen mixture you should use less fossil fuel. The solution is probable something simple.
Hydrovin 1 year ago 18
@Hydrovin The alternator doesn't produce current which isn't used. If it isn't used, it wont be produced. It's a bit like opening a tap. The current can't flow if it has nowhere to go. The alternator is spinning free with very little resistance apart from a bit of belt and bearing friction. As soon as you open the tap to an HHO generator or anything else, huge currents like 20-40A start to flow, the alternator is under load and there is huge drag on the pulley/belt. This slows the engine.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules Naturally, you may get some benefit from the combustion of hydrogen or the hydrogen helping the flame front speed or whatever. But, anything you do get will be balanced by the alternator drag on the engine. By the time you have taken of losses in the system such as heat in the wires & the generator, you'll end up with a negative effect.
People may state they get increased mpg, but this is brought about by a willingness to prove the idea and exercising extreme economy driving.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@Hydrovin Its not that you use less fossil fuel, Its that you burn a higher percentage of it during combustion, thus reducing the amount of wasted energy in your exhaust.
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naeemashraf1000 7 months ago
@Hydrovin If you are using less hydrocarbons (fuel, gas) and replacing some of that with hho, you need to lean out your mixture (of hydrocarbon fuel). The only way to really take control of what your ecu seeks out to find stoichiometric and "lie" to it is a wideband O2 sensor and a stand alone ecu (one you can map yourself)
smaqdaddy 7 months ago
@CaraBrimleyRules Sad thing is you dont have a clue and probably havent even tried it. Ive got a system running right now that went from 19 mpg to 28.6. It is real and yeah it might wear out an alternator but Ill take that chance with fuel being so high.
whey20010 1 year ago
@whey20010 Go and read up on the first and second laws of thermodynamics and come back when you have something sensible to say.
One empirical result you have got under conditions that were more likely than not uncontrolled, does not invalidate the known laws of the universe. That is not how science works. If you don't believe that, email a professor of mechanical engineering at a university near you and see what they have to say on the matter.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules That's dumb man there's millions of reasons people come up with that say this shouldn't work and it cant be done properly or controlled. Ive got my system controlled with a constant 30 amp pull from the alternator using a PWM. I know exactly what temp my water runs at all times and what amps I'm pulling. I don't allow thermal creep to happen in my system so I don't think my system can personally be any more controlled. That's the fun in it, the experimenting.
whey20010 1 year ago
@whey20010 So you're pulling 30 amps. The process of generating that moves the alternator core through the magnetic fields around the stator wires. This drags the alternator pulley which slows the engine. You are not getting that current "for free". Disconnect the HHO generator and that current wont flow & you wont have the drag. This is the mistake that people make. They assume because the alternator is spinning anyway, there is no difference. As soon as you draw current the drag starts.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules well yes, but. its not supposed to provide more power. just alternate power. if properly made hho processors can increase your mpg by a few or alot. it dosen't really matter what the draw of the Alt does, put a brushless alt with a higher amp rating and you will have less drag and more energy. even if this only increases your mpg by say 5 miles, isn't it worth it. over the course of a day, or week, mabye not, but how long do you keep your vehicles. over time its worth it.
asolfvikorson 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules Man, so you think that a system's efficiency cannot be improved?
MrTwisterPM 1 year ago
@MrTwisterPM Yes a system's efficiency can be improved, but only in certain ways. You can't use mechanical energy to create electrical energy to convert to chemical energy and convert that back to mechanical energy. That just introduces conversion losses.
The mistake people who advocate HHO generators in cars make, is they say you are getting the electrical energy anyway cos the alternator was spinning anyway. They don't realise that the more current you draw, the more you drag on the engine.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules You are so wrong that it is embarrassing.
Infinitevoyager 1 year ago
@Infinitevoyager Well if you were right, auto manufacturers would be fitting HHO devices to their products. Why should they spend billions on other fuel economy develpoment measures like wind tunnels, drag, turbos, and engine mods? Yet they don't fit a simple mod that any hobbyist can knock up to some degree or other?
Answer = It doesn't work.
Don't come back with some conspiracy theory between them and petroleum companies because they bend over backwards to achieve fuel efficency otherwise.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules Yeah whatever, go ahead and keep your head buried far up there, negative thinkers like the darkness. Things are no longer a conspiracy when they have been proven over and over and over, hundreds of times. They are called truth. Well.....except for those wallowing in their own ignorance. The very energy that allows you to be alive, the zero point field, it can be tapped into. And please spare me any religious rhetoric and dogma. It has done enough damage to humanity already.
Infinitevoyager 1 year ago
@Infinitevoyager You didn't answer my point. If HHO is a proven benefit, why isn't it being fitted by Auto Makers as standard, as other fuel economy measures are?
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules People now a days need a light to come on to check there oil. There are auto manufactures out there that have prototype cars that run on hho. Japan has implemented the use of it to get more mpg from what I have seen. But why may you ask would some one not have the ingenuity to create such devices that can be put together with some scrap stainless and home depot supplies for one reason. The more gas you use the more money they make the Government. Plain and simple.
djrodriguezthizz 1 year ago
@djrodriguezthizz There are no cars running on HHO derived from the engine alternator, only compressed hydrogen separated in an industrial process and brought in as a fuel like petrol/gas which is something different.
Your usage of gas conspiracy argument does not make any sense. If this were true, then why design and implement aerodynamic cars or smoothflow exhausts etc etc etc ??? These mods use less gas so they would be suppressed by the Gov/manuf if your theory was true. They are not. QED.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules First and for most the reason car manufacturers don't put this device on their cars is this.
1. if they did they stem to loose money because the device runs the engine cooler and cleaner. it cuts don on the need for maintaining and repairs.
2. The big oil companies do pay them money to help keep them in business.
steven0577 1 year ago
@steven0577 This conspiracy theory of yours makes zero logical sense because car manufacturers have been struggling to make all sorts of other improvements, eg Aero dynamic fuel efficiency, extra valves, smooth flow technology & reducing the time between maintenance cutting on servicing bills.
If what you say is true they wouldn't have bothered making any of these improvements. But they do, so the value of your argument is zero.
The real reason they don't fit HHO is because it doesn't work.
CaraBrimleyRules 1 year ago
@CaraBrimleyRules It is not a replacement for fuel, just a suppliment. You are right, cant get something from nothing which is why an electric charge is still neccessary, that can easily be supplimented with solar panels charging batteries. This is just the start of the revolution...come back and be an asshole in 50 years when it still hasnt gone anywhere.
poisonblood696 9 months ago 4
@poisonblood696 Hahaha you sooo don't understand basic physics.
CaraBrimleyRules 9 months ago
Why is it that you only send a current through a few of the sheets, and not all of them? Does the current cross over to the other sheets through the water?
rickyoswald 1 year ago
ooooooooooo now i get it i never knew how a dry cell worked but i get it knowi waz confused
themodmancarl 1 year ago
Best HHO video on youtube as far as musicvideos go..well done!
calyxcorona 1 year ago
l/min??? ... how many L of gass per minute u have with 45A ???
novkaxfire 1 year ago
great song, it should be the HHO anthem...btw nice cell! how many lpms?
calyxcorona 1 year ago
I see that you have a positive, three neutral plates; a Negative and three more neutral plates. Why not a positive and a negative +-+-+- and so on? I feel you are losing efficiency. Explain please. And by the way this is a DRY CELL fellas.
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gideonmor 1 year ago
@gideonmor how did you overcome the O2 sensor problem? Adding HHO makes O2 sensors read the air/fuel ratio as lean causing additional fuel to be used.
hardleecure 1 year ago
@hardleecure You need an EFFI, to trick the O2 sensor.
bennett20200 1 year ago
@bennett20200 ? could you explain that subject more?
paladain55 1 year ago
@paladain55 All fuel injected cars have O2 sensors on them to read the mixture of gas and oxygen that the engine is burning. if the sensors detect to much oxygen in the mix (a lean mix) they tell the injectors to add more fuel. If they detect that there is more fuel then normal (burning rich) they add less fuel to the mixture. When you add a Hydrogen Cell to a car, the O2 sensors read that in the exhaust and tell the car to add more fuel. Then you actually end up burning more fuel per mile.
bennett20200 1 year ago
@paladain55 To stop that from happening you need a "Electronic Fuel Injector Enhancer" (EFIE, I know I spelled it wrong before). What it does is allows you to manually adjust the signal strength the O2 sensor receives. In other words, it tricks the sensor into thinking the mixture is still correct so it doesn't add more fuel to compensate. Without one, you wont see any milage gains. Sorry, i know that was a long explanation.
bennett20200 1 year ago
@bennett20200 DUDE, thanks for describing this to me, so whenever i try it out, i dont waste my time thinking it doesnt work. lol
where would you get one of these?
paladain55 1 year ago
@bennett20200 and also.... what if it is carburation
paladain55 1 year ago
@paladain55 Well if i don't see why you would need one if your car had a carburetor instead, but I could be wrong. The only place i have ever seen to get them is online. There are lots of different suppliers and different cars need different types. Best thing to do is look them up to see what yours needs, then do some online shopping. Take a look at these forms "hhoforms.com" they have a lot of useful information, basically everything you'll need to know. Good luck!
bennett20200 1 year ago
the name of the song is: The Flobots-Handlebars
Undead989 1 year ago
were do you buy the plates? and how much are they
mike24001 1 year ago
nice video . nice background music :D
lamberdMbeno 1 year ago
good video.
"dude, there's this guy, who came up with an engine that runs on water man, on water." Whomever can place this quote gets a cookie.
bobobano 1 year ago
@bobobano its hyde from that 70s show
kep2268 1 year ago
@kep2268 Well done, you get a cookie. It will be automatically downloaded.
bobobano 1 year ago
thank you for the information and the song.
faisal64mutter 1 year ago
cuanto amperaje consume de la bateria? se podra montar en una motocicleta de 12voltios?
GERHACKER 1 year ago
What song is that... I love it
toyo8201 1 year ago
@toyo8201 i can do and sing that... and much more
xxXpitboyXxx 1 year ago
shit
joohop 1 year ago
what about using both hydrogen and gas vapor
TheBlackirish7 1 year ago
i like your music !!!! your CELL too.......
vox1philippines 1 year ago
You should measure the efficiency of your cell. IE (chemical energy gained)/(electrical energy in). If it's over 100%, well worth building.
By the way, the Flobots suck. I'm from their home town, and have seen them twice because they were booked with better bands. They performed the exact same set both shows, re-using the protest signs from the RATM democratic convention convert. This is their only tolerable song
getsafe1212 1 year ago
i still think wet is the better way to go.
taffyclk4 1 year ago
Hi, i need to create this hho, do you can send the materials and measures
MoparLatino 1 year ago
What song is that... I love it... and very fitting for the video's subject.
silameth 1 year ago
Wow your Awsome! can yoiu tell me what that song is called? I really love that song! so plz let me know...
Thnx
Dunkin34 1 year ago
The Music is Shit!
OregonHerbalist 1 year ago
Yap grate.But not working.The O-ring is not good.Come out,after 20minute.
I buy the farkashho big cell works grate.But I dont belive this.
vancouvercarpenter 1 year ago
great vidio, what do you add to the water to stop it freezing, antifreeze!
tourer35 2 years ago
Hooraaleee!! Where Can I buy one Doug!
I want to put it on my lowrider!
ThePipiriz 2 years ago
Genuis design. great work bro.
afrakes4510 2 years ago
Hard to see what's going on at that speed. Nice video, just hard to follow the steps there.
HomeWindTurbines7 2 years ago
This is a dry cell because it is not submerged. Instead, the water is piped through the plates. The black rubber o-rings are the insulators so the plates don't touch. The closer the plates the better.
I suggest engraving a bevel on the side of each plate so the rings don't move, seal is better, and the plates will be closer.
You send a DC current through the top bolts.
Enjoy this video for what it is! Simplistic genius. One of the most efficient builds I have seen. Less materials needed.
illtrax 2 years ago
@illtrax It's not a dry cell at all. There's fucking holes all through the plates that will let the electrolyte/h2o connect between cells. That is the definition of a wet cell. Get it straight.
crackahcrackah 1 year ago
great vidio, speeded up to much, were can I get hold of the o rings you are using.
tourer35 2 years ago
Very informative!
vspromano 2 years ago
cool video!
freelancersoasis 2 years ago
Wow Hydrovin looks great!!!!
shelbyluna 2 years ago 2