This is a very needed ,and profound message,very to the point,because marriage is honorabe and the bed is undefiled, When a man get married ,and the women is not what he expected he feels cheated, and many times thats what destroys a marriage,i am a witness to this ,as physically attracted as the bride might be we could,nt consummate the marriage because of what happen to her before marriage. The very same thing in your message thank you for bringing it out so profoundly,
My question is why would you kill, if God has given us grace for forgiveness. Doesn't this tell us that Vengeance belong to God. That in the Law of Moses is was punishable by death, but by the Grace of God, we can ask for forgiveness. And the Man or Women can divorce. I not justifying that is is right to do these things, but by law if you kill someone, you are going to jail and nobody has justify anything. Just a whole lot of sadness and hate...Just saying!
I`m not intending to rise up against my mother... but what if my mother rises up aganst her family? What is if she decides to destroy our family by fucking with another man. Disrespecting my father and our family? Do I then have the right to rise against my mother? I believe so... YES!!!
@Onyemeachi no u dont rise up against ur mother b/c u as her child have no right to interfere btw ur parents relationship...thats btw ur mother and father.....
@sweetrose19 Yes I dont have the right to interfere. But if my mother fucks another man, and tell lies to us, that my brother is the son of my father and during kidney transplantation the doctor of my father finds out, that my brother is not even his son, then I have the right. NO I have the duty to interfere with such slutting around.
OH BOY! How should I respond to this? True indeed, tapping into a womans chakras FEEDS her life energy force. Whether it is healthy or toxic food be the key. People attach spook tactics to sex. Sex is a sacred ritual!!!!!! With that said Farrakhan has a valid point. BE RESPONSIBLE! ~Tiffany~
SOCIAL ENGINEERING AT IT'S BEST...BUT CAN WE DO BETTER BY CHANGING THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM ONLY FEAR THE LAW AND THE CONSEQUECES OF BREAKING THE LAW!!! YES WE CAN!!!!
SOCIAL ENGINEERING AT IT'S BEST...BUT CAN WE DO BETTER BY CHANGING THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM ON FEAR THE LAW AND THE CONSEQUECES OF BREAKING THE LAW!!! YES WE CAN!!!!
A message so many women need to hear and men too. I think about all these singers coming out with stupid songs like Usher, and that "Bet your neighbor knows my name" guy and these ladies think it is cute. I respect Farrakhan he is a very serious man.
@najahmcbryde i am i am, and i love it, but this was more so meant towards Glen beck because he's always demonizing ppl who are veeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrry loosely associated with something he deems bad.. thus i deem glen beck something he doesn't like, Farrakhan
@SurvivalArtTattoo the truth is another debate however he speaking to the choir there r very few ppl outside the NOI circle who would follow what he says + I feel SOME of his views will make be second class citizens since not every1 will apply the messgae the same way ppl will go overboard. this is some bullshit
@missyouhoo The truth is all that matters. All else is either secondary or irrelevant. Is what Min. Farrakhan says is the truth? That's the only thing that matters. Either show what he says is a lie(which you can't), or don't even comment.
Powerful, profound and on point. I had this lecture on vhs a long time ago. I Think it is called "satan and the mastery of sexual urges" or possibly "Human sexuality, the origin of male/female relationships"..either way, they are both classic and timeless msgs from the 87-89 finall call building era. Great post.
In Islamic West-Africa, if you commit adultery, people look at you as a murderer, thats how serious it is.
If you do serious rape, death penalty for you.
Can't keep that thing which God gave you between your legs in its rightful place - in your pants? Wan't to lust after women like a dog? Have you seen those dogs and how they mate, want to be like them?
@LotN2 I'm glad ur not :-) but the need that hard on sex outside of marrige is an extreme it snot really urs nor my business with 2 consenting adults do. Also at least 5 damn thats bare min 40 months of my life I can't get back + feeding n taking of them u will need a damn good plan
what's up with all the cursing? It dilutes the message especially talking about a virtuous woman. The bible says what does into a man doesn't defile him, but what comes out of him does. I really thought the message was insightful, but was disappointed with his language.
The Minister is just very passionate about this subject because he understands the importance of it.
This isn't the norm if you've seen the many lectures/interviews of him on youtube. I remember him saying once that when he gets really upset, he'll curse to keep him from hitting something/somone
Ahmad770 the lesson withthese comments is if you are not going to put up the whole lecture then don't post. you can't post snippets of wisdom , the people will not understand. the way farrakhan does lectures you have to watch the whole thing to understand. peace
Well, with this lecture, that seems to be true. Usually, 10 mins is sufficient to grasp the point of the Minister.
But, I think I may start putting up the entire lectures soon. I'm going to see the Minister speak in Chicago next month and I'll stock up on some more while out there.
With all due respect, Allah tells Mohammed and the people in the Quran that he is only responsible for a CLEAR delivery of the word - no more no less. Not even the brother who said he thought the cursing was wrong said that he was confused by the point.
As far as the message itself I think the overall point is valuable for our people but in reality the Bible doesn't specify a death sentence for fornication and neither does the Qu'ran...it is adultery by a married person that does.
in the bible under mosaic law given to him by Allah it states that those who committ fornication should be stoned to death. read the book of exodus. the Quran does state this also and is practiced under sharia law. so with all due respect to you what books are you reading because both books state this. also mary magdeline was supposed to be stoned to death but jesus stopped them. jesus new the law.
I have actually read Exodus, so please point out the chapter and verse you are referring to. Sharia is not the Quran. Furthermore, I didn't say that the Quran doesn't specify a punishment for sex outside of a contract (nikka), I said that it wasn't death in all cases. On both counts please prove me wrong by showing a verse or ayat that backs you up. Fornication is very much a new testament concept, but there are no death penalties there.
You are incorrect. Mary, the mother of Jesus, had to infact hide her pregnancy and literally go on the run due to the fact that she would have been stoned to death for getting pregnant while not being married.
Actually even according to the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Joseph was married when he got Mary pregnant - so it would've been adultery...not mere fornication. Again, the practice of stoning women primarily for sex has been going on for thousands of years but that doesn't mean it was according to the law. So again, my point still stands. Please point to chapter and verse to make your case.
I must humbly submit, you are correct. Fornication does not seem to be punishible by death. However, the Minister never said it was punishable by death from the scriptures.
He was merely pointing out why it's done in the Middle East. Hence, "In that world".
He then talked about the principle of women giving up their virtue to any man and why and how that can destroy her or a relationship.
This is a good sermon women have become too low in their self esteem and are too nasty and loose. Some of us just need to keep our legs close. Men have limited or no respect for women because women are cheap. I wish i had a brother and a father who could have defended my honour. Great examples to teach the young and the foolish we are far too immoral and then we complain that the world is bad and getting worst
This particular clip isn't put into context without the rest of the lecture, so those of you who disagree need to see the entire thing. I don't currently have it, but i'll put it up when i get it
this is just part of a series...if Ahmad put the entire series up people would understand this better. it is VERY easy to get this misunderstood just watching this segment.
The reality is that *women* CHOOSE which guys get to sleep with them, and which guys get the 'lets just be friends'. Men wouldn't 'sing and dance' unless they HAD to to get the girl. If being a nice guy w honourable intentions was enough, all women would be happily married.
Yes women do choose which guys get to sleep with them. The point he's making is, they shouldn't let just anyone sleep with them, only those who have chosen to make a lifetime commitment with them....not just having casual sex.
Wonderful.Who is punished for rape?
serpentinecreature 3 days ago
BEAUTIFUL TEACHING!
woodslounge 1 week ago
@woodslounge What is the punishment(or justice for) and do both people get punishment?
serpentinecreature 3 days ago
HE'S COMPLETELY RIGHT!!!
Dlovely291 4 months ago
This is a very needed ,and profound message,very to the point,because marriage is honorabe and the bed is undefiled, When a man get married ,and the women is not what he expected he feels cheated, and many times thats what destroys a marriage,i am a witness to this ,as physically attracted as the bride might be we could,nt consummate the marriage because of what happen to her before marriage. The very same thing in your message thank you for bringing it out so profoundly,
MyJames245 5 months ago
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ALL PRAISE DUE TO ALLAH
woodslounge 6 months ago
6:07
PaulGreen11 7 months ago
5:16
PaulGreen11 7 months ago
@onyemeachi... and if that does happen then what are u going to do then kill her...
sweetrose19 8 months ago
My question is why would you kill, if God has given us grace for forgiveness. Doesn't this tell us that Vengeance belong to God. That in the Law of Moses is was punishable by death, but by the Grace of God, we can ask for forgiveness. And the Man or Women can divorce. I not justifying that is is right to do these things, but by law if you kill someone, you are going to jail and nobody has justify anything. Just a whole lot of sadness and hate...Just saying!
MsIloveyou32 9 months ago
Why is it only the woman gets stoned?
bajanzelly 11 months ago
Preach Minister!
nelsonsonja 11 months ago
I`m not intending to rise up against my mother... but what if my mother rises up aganst her family? What is if she decides to destroy our family by fucking with another man. Disrespecting my father and our family? Do I then have the right to rise against my mother? I believe so... YES!!!
Onyemeachi 11 months ago
@Onyemeachi no u dont rise up against ur mother b/c u as her child have no right to interfere btw ur parents relationship...thats btw ur mother and father.....
sweetrose19 8 months ago
@sweetrose19 Yes I dont have the right to interfere. But if my mother fucks another man, and tell lies to us, that my brother is the son of my father and during kidney transplantation the doctor of my father finds out, that my brother is not even his son, then I have the right. NO I have the duty to interfere with such slutting around.
Onyemeachi 8 months ago
good god almighty!!!!!
blackistheword7 1 year ago
GOD Bless you Minister Farrakhan. GOD Bless YOU and Keep You.
DAlani123 1 year ago 6
The Minister was raw on this lecture,good hard teaching.
IndyPlayer75XL 1 year ago
OH BOY! How should I respond to this? True indeed, tapping into a womans chakras FEEDS her life energy force. Whether it is healthy or toxic food be the key. People attach spook tactics to sex. Sex is a sacred ritual!!!!!! With that said Farrakhan has a valid point. BE RESPONSIBLE! ~Tiffany~
MarkedBy19 1 year ago
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SOCIAL ENGINEERING AT IT'S BEST...BUT CAN WE DO BETTER BY CHANGING THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM ONLY FEAR THE LAW AND THE CONSEQUECES OF BREAKING THE LAW!!! YES WE CAN!!!!
s8peed 1 year ago
SOCIAL ENGINEERING AT IT'S BEST...BUT CAN WE DO BETTER BY CHANGING THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM ON FEAR THE LAW AND THE CONSEQUECES OF BREAKING THE LAW!!! YES WE CAN!!!!
s8peed 1 year ago
Brother Ahmad, what is this lecture called - I want to order it from FCN online!
hasansito 1 year ago
@hasansito
Satan and the Mastery of Sexual Urges
Ahmad770 1 year ago 2
@Ahmad770
Thank you so much Beloved!!!!!
hasansito 1 year ago
A message so many women need to hear and men too. I think about all these singers coming out with stupid songs like Usher, and that "Bet your neighbor knows my name" guy and these ladies think it is cute. I respect Farrakhan he is a very serious man.
sdickens09 1 year ago
Absolutely phenomenal! TEACH BROTHER MINISTER!
aprilnaction 1 year ago
hahahah, he's got a board like Glen Beck ahhahahah
LovingBundleOfHate 1 year ago
@LovingBundleOfHate pay attention to his words not the board!!
najahmcbryde 1 year ago
@najahmcbryde i am i am, and i love it, but this was more so meant towards Glen beck because he's always demonizing ppl who are veeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrry loosely associated with something he deems bad.. thus i deem glen beck something he doesn't like, Farrakhan
LovingBundleOfHate 1 year ago
bruh fired up
xdst84 1 year ago
this is some bullshit
missyouhoo 1 year ago
@missyouhoo y not sista... u dnt like hearing the truth?
SurvivalArtTattoo 1 year ago
@SurvivalArtTattoo the truth is another debate however he speaking to the choir there r very few ppl outside the NOI circle who would follow what he says + I feel SOME of his views will make be second class citizens since not every1 will apply the messgae the same way ppl will go overboard. this is some bullshit
missyouhoo 1 year ago
@missyouhoo No this is not bullshit but your daily actions our bullshit!
ShabazzAllah1 1 year ago
@missyouhoo The truth is all that matters. All else is either secondary or irrelevant. Is what Min. Farrakhan says is the truth? That's the only thing that matters. Either show what he says is a lie(which you can't), or don't even comment.
Originalman320 1 year ago
@missyouhoo n please dnt disrespect the minister 4 trying 2 raise the dead...
SurvivalArtTattoo 1 year ago
@missyouhoo The only B.S. is your comment.
Originalman320 1 year ago
Thatz right!!! I hope n pray our brothers n sisters take heed 2 this message
SurvivalArtTattoo 2 years ago
@SurvivalArtTattoo I hope not
missyouhoo 1 year ago
the minister is teaching!! we must do better!
queencourt99 2 years ago
Powerful, profound and on point. I had this lecture on vhs a long time ago. I Think it is called "satan and the mastery of sexual urges" or possibly "Human sexuality, the origin of male/female relationships"..either way, they are both classic and timeless msgs from the 87-89 finall call building era. Great post.
saalakhan 2 years ago 4
Kill the fornicators and adulterers!
In Islamic West-Africa, if you commit adultery, people look at you as a murderer, thats how serious it is.
If you do serious rape, death penalty for you.
Can't keep that thing which God gave you between your legs in its rightful place - in your pants? Wan't to lust after women like a dog? Have you seen those dogs and how they mate, want to be like them?
Then you dont deserve to live.
LotN2 2 years ago
@LotN2 please don't procreate
missyouhoo 1 year ago
@missyouhoo At least 5 children I will have.
Don't worry, I am not interested in you :-).
LotN2 1 year ago
@LotN2 I'm glad ur not :-) but the need that hard on sex outside of marrige is an extreme it snot really urs nor my business with 2 consenting adults do. Also at least 5 damn thats bare min 40 months of my life I can't get back + feeding n taking of them u will need a damn good plan
missyouhoo 1 year ago
@missyouhoo No you're not glad I'm not thats why you keep on replying to me and trying to make me give you attention.
Bye.
LotN2 1 year ago
What is the name of this Lecture?
nodlew 2 years ago
what's up with all the cursing? It dilutes the message especially talking about a virtuous woman. The bible says what does into a man doesn't defile him, but what comes out of him does. I really thought the message was insightful, but was disappointed with his language.
DurhamShaw08 2 years ago
The Minister is just very passionate about this subject because he understands the importance of it.
This isn't the norm if you've seen the many lectures/interviews of him on youtube. I remember him saying once that when he gets really upset, he'll curse to keep him from hitting something/somone
Ahmad770 2 years ago
@DurhamShaw08 What cursing?
Originalman320 1 year ago
Ahmad770 the lesson withthese comments is if you are not going to put up the whole lecture then don't post. you can't post snippets of wisdom , the people will not understand. the way farrakhan does lectures you have to watch the whole thing to understand. peace
thejazzmusician 2 years ago
Well, with this lecture, that seems to be true. Usually, 10 mins is sufficient to grasp the point of the Minister.
But, I think I may start putting up the entire lectures soon. I'm going to see the Minister speak in Chicago next month and I'll stock up on some more while out there.
Ahmad770 2 years ago
Please do I'd be very grateful and so would many other people on YTube
ckzckw 2 years ago
thats good im going to hear him next month too
thejazzmusician 2 years ago
With all due respect, Allah tells Mohammed and the people in the Quran that he is only responsible for a CLEAR delivery of the word - no more no less. Not even the brother who said he thought the cursing was wrong said that he was confused by the point.
As far as the message itself I think the overall point is valuable for our people but in reality the Bible doesn't specify a death sentence for fornication and neither does the Qu'ran...it is adultery by a married person that does.
empirical77 2 years ago
in the bible under mosaic law given to him by Allah it states that those who committ fornication should be stoned to death. read the book of exodus. the Quran does state this also and is practiced under sharia law. so with all due respect to you what books are you reading because both books state this. also mary magdeline was supposed to be stoned to death but jesus stopped them. jesus new the law.
thejazzmusician 2 years ago
I have actually read Exodus, so please point out the chapter and verse you are referring to. Sharia is not the Quran. Furthermore, I didn't say that the Quran doesn't specify a punishment for sex outside of a contract (nikka), I said that it wasn't death in all cases. On both counts please prove me wrong by showing a verse or ayat that backs you up. Fornication is very much a new testament concept, but there are no death penalties there.
empirical77 2 years ago
empircal77,
You are incorrect. Mary, the mother of Jesus, had to infact hide her pregnancy and literally go on the run due to the fact that she would have been stoned to death for getting pregnant while not being married.
Ahmad770 2 years ago
Actually even according to the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Joseph was married when he got Mary pregnant - so it would've been adultery...not mere fornication. Again, the practice of stoning women primarily for sex has been going on for thousands of years but that doesn't mean it was according to the law. So again, my point still stands. Please point to chapter and verse to make your case.
empirical77 2 years ago
I must humbly submit, you are correct. Fornication does not seem to be punishible by death. However, the Minister never said it was punishable by death from the scriptures.
He was merely pointing out why it's done in the Middle East. Hence, "In that world".
He then talked about the principle of women giving up their virtue to any man and why and how that can destroy her or a relationship.
Ahmad770 2 years ago
Peace brother. Yes, that's why initially said that overall the point of the message is good for us as a people.
empirical77 2 years ago
Fornication is a serious crime. Very serious one. God said "I dont want fornicators and adulterers in the kingdom".
Maryam and the story of Issa is different however and you have to interpret that one to understand.
LotN2 2 years ago
@LotN2 only if u believe in this
missyouhoo 1 year ago
THATS RIGHT...PREECH!!!!!!!!
CallieShabazz123 1 year ago
This is a good sermon women have become too low in their self esteem and are too nasty and loose. Some of us just need to keep our legs close. Men have limited or no respect for women because women are cheap. I wish i had a brother and a father who could have defended my honour. Great examples to teach the young and the foolish we are far too immoral and then we complain that the world is bad and getting worst
MedlynMartin 2 years ago
This particular clip isn't put into context without the rest of the lecture, so those of you who disagree need to see the entire thing. I don't currently have it, but i'll put it up when i get it
Ahmad770 2 years ago
Also, to those who disagree, what exactly do you disagree with?
Ahmad770 2 years ago
sorry but not this time i dont agree
MistahNickells 2 years ago
this is just part of a series...if Ahmad put the entire series up people would understand this better. it is VERY easy to get this misunderstood just watching this segment.
Vintage27 2 years ago
i normally agree with his message but not this time
Africangold16 2 years ago
I disagree.
The reality is that *women* CHOOSE which guys get to sleep with them, and which guys get the 'lets just be friends'. Men wouldn't 'sing and dance' unless they HAD to to get the girl. If being a nice guy w honourable intentions was enough, all women would be happily married.
Andybaby 2 years ago
Yes women do choose which guys get to sleep with them. The point he's making is, they shouldn't let just anyone sleep with them, only those who have chosen to make a lifetime commitment with them....not just having casual sex.
Ahmad770 2 years ago