Vegetable Oil in a Diesel. Ford 7.3 IDI Diesel. WVO

[alwaysreadyrob]

is that the only filter you use ? a 30 micron filter.....what do you filter your oil to 10 Microns or less ? I had injector pump problems with the Veg Powered System I got in Ojai...I think he even sold me a used tank. do you advise putting an inline filter say 10 microns or less to protect the pump ?

[Delticola]

@alwaysreadyrob I use synthetic fabric bags that I buy from McCaster Carr. I have learned that gravity feeding the oil at room temperature is the best way to filter used oil, don't heat it up because the animal fats melt and go through the filter. In my diesel I use a lot of Marvel Mystery Oil and Sea Foam so that there is plenty of solvent in my diesel to clean out both the injector pump and the injectors and injector lines. By plenty I mean a bottle per 20 gallon tank.

[slingingofstars69]

super awesome. i hope to be running my 7.3 on veggie oil soon. thanks for the video.

[Motion63Films]

does adding all those additional coolant lines weaken the flow? is the stock water pump still effective and efficient i suppose, to push through all that additional lines? Also, I was wondering if you added coolant to fill the 10 or so of additional lines? thanks...

[Delticola]

@Motion63Films The water pump seems sufficient and yes, there is additional fluid to add so that you have fluid in the 10 feet of extra hose. Maybe half gallon or more.  The only flaw in this design is cold weather flow from the tank and I did not initially account for the return line to the fuel tank, the factory return line.

[seawalkersee]

I have a buddy that ran for several years in his Mercedes. He said after a while (unrelated problem) he pulled the engind down. The glycerine had built up on some of the internals. I think you could probably run some diesel and water to clean it up if you did it every 10th tank or so. BUT that is just a guess.

[Delticola]

@seawalkersee Yeah, that's what I've heard. I run Marvel Mystery Oil inthe oil about 200-500 miles before an oil change. I think that's cleaning the stuff out pretty well. A freind of mine ruined a VW passat (1990's) model. It recommended 10,000 mile oil changes so he went with that, and the vegetable oil was contaminating his engine oil.  So if you run some SEA FOAM or some Marvel Mystery oil in the motor oil I'm sure that will keep it from coating up too much.

[LUVallova]

How long does the fuel stay stabile? My 95 powerstroke sits sometimes for a couple weeks. I only put 4000 miles on in a season.

[Delticola]

@LUVallova Well I've used it a little over a year after I got it and it was fine. My problem is that I have too much oil to burn, what a nice problem to have huh? I've got some oil going on about 3 years old now, so we'll fine out pretty soon if that's still any good. I suspect it's just fine.

[karmannghiagirl69]

My husband jesse has a few questions if u could please email him a jessefuller48756@yahoo.com we would like to convert our 82 gmc duley to veggie oil

[punkin1418]

so all in all how much did you spend on the conversion minus the tank?

[Delticola]

@punkin1418 $83, Pollak Switch. $80 on Metal Braided Hose, $110 Silicon Hose, $250 for welded pieces plus the metal costs. $35 Pump. Roughly $500.00 not including the tank. But you need a really good welder. Either you need to be very proficient at welding or your welder needs some skills for intricate work or you will have leaks. My Russian welder is not always available and RedNeck Welder makes parts for me that leak. So I'm learning how to Tig weld myself right now.

[Delticola]

@punkin1418 $83, Pollak Switch. $80 on Metal Braided Hose, $110 Silicon Hose, $250 for welded pieces plus the metal costs. $35 Pump. Roughly $500.00 not including the tank. But you need a really good welder. Either you need to be very proficient at welding or your welder needs some skills for intricate work or you will have leaks. My Russian welder is not always available and my RedNeck Welder makes parts for me that leak. So I'm learning how to Tig weld myself right now.

[TexasForddiesel]

nice instructional video man, thanks for clarifying the details that no chemical refining needs to be done on the oil nor the engine, the heating system used by engine coolant is a very good idea to thin the oil. do you think instead of using the coolant system its also a good idea to warm up the oil with integrating nichrome wiring inside the tank?

[Delticola]

@TexasForddiesel. Heating the tank is a good idea for when temperatures dip, the oil won't flow from the tank very well. Alternatively u can use a really large diameter exit hose or tube from your tank, larger diameter will flow enough for what the engine can burn (3/4 inch or greater) if the tank is not heated. Then you have to decide does your pump need heated oil or will heated oil ruin your pump? Or will cold oil burn up the pump due to being too think. Just heating tank is not enough.

[Delticola]

@TexasForddiesel You have to heat the filter, either by something like what I designed or a Davco filter/heater or oil won't flow through at 60F and below. U also need the oil hot before it hits the injector pump. So heating the tank won't be sufficient in itself. Too much line between the engine and the tank to use engine heat for all of that oil in the line. I'm convinced, hot oil is absolutely required to keep from destroying your injector pump.

[TexasForddiesel]

@Delticola you got a point there, as the fuel is being delivered from the tank to the engine there is a high possibility that it will start to cool down quickly, so it has to be a consistent heating of the oil to avoid any damage on the fuel system if too thick, thanks, appreciate the info

[tbonetwood1]

im looking into an 94 turbo diesel and want to do something to this nature but im not sure i follow with the coolant lines and all going on there

[cgspeeddemon1]

@tbonetwood1 there is an easy way to do it on the cheap, somewhere on your motor there will be a smaller coolant line that you take one end and run it to the tank, in the tank you mount a tranny cooler and connect the coolant hose to that, the other port on the cooler gets a hose that runs back to where the hose origanlly went to

[tbonetwood1]

@cgspeeddemon1 i gotcha u use the lines to heat the oil? i was lost for a few there didnt get it at first i thought u were cooling something. wow dumb moment i guess. thanks for clearing that up. do you have any idea how hot that gets the oil? i was under the understanding it needed yo be around 150 to 180 ideally and just so im clear i assume the switch and solenoid is to switch to the veg from diesel? if thats the case is there any reason i couldnt use the dual tank switch thats there now

[cgspeeddemon1]

@tbonetwood1 yeah you use it to heat the oil, as for how hot you need it to be i dont know an exact temp but it will eventually get to the same temp your engine coolant is, it just takes longer in larger tanks. yes thats what the switch is for and yes you could use the tank switch IF you use the second tank for oil. depending where you live you might want to do it the REALLY easy way, i live in southeren az so i just pour the oil into the tank with the diesle in it creating a mix.

[cgspeeddemon1]

@tbonetwood1 the diesle thins the oil and the oil cuts the cost of fuel in half or more because it takes less fuel to get a full tank. in the winter i run about 75% diesle and 25% oil to make sure it stays thin. in the summer its the other way arround since the nights usually stay above 75 degrees for the lows. so in the summer my fuel costs 75% less per mile than a normal truck and in the winter its 25% more affordable

[tbonetwood1]

@cgspeeddemon1 i live in illinois so its a wind chill of 5 below today. i like the idea of just ixing it assuming its a viable option for me. im real new to this so thanks for the info

[cgspeeddemon1]

@tbonetwood1 yeah in your case i wouldnt mix it, i wouldnt even run it through my fuel filter. and in cold climates they recomend starting with diesle and driving at least five miles before switching over and then driving the last ten miles on diesle to clean out the injectors cause if the oil stays in the injectors and gels from the cold weather you might have to disassemble them and clean them before it will run again. they make electric heated tanks you can buy that i think would work for u

[cgspeeddemon1]

@tbonetwood1 also make sure you insulate your hoses to maintain the temp until the engin uses the oil, if you dont it may gel inside the lines and thats bad. ill see if i can dig up any of the old websites i used when doing my truck and post them for you. if you have any questions feel free to email me at cgspeed_demon at yahoo.com

[filmitfilmit]

SO HOW IS THE TRUCK RUNNING NOW AFTER 3 YEARS? iM LOOKING AT AN 88 F350 FOR THIS PURPOSE

[Delticola]

@filmitfilmit You can get an 83-2002 no problem. The engine burns the oil clean. The oil doesn't affect the engine what so ever. It affects the fuel system in various ways, but there are many things to combat the affects of the oil in a fuel system. I visited someone who has driven over 400,000 on one Ford F350 all on oil. He discovered the oil in the early 1990's.

[SinanS500]

Can I do this with my newer 7.3? Im located in florida, if you live in the south I would drive to you if you could explain everything in person.

[Delticola]

@SinanS500 You can certainly do this with your 7.3 Powerstroke Direct Injection Engine. I will post a video of a guy I know who has done this with his powerstroke. I'm going to do it with my powerstroke as well, one day. To many projects right now. You're welcome to drive a million miles and visit me but you won't need to. I'll post the video of how he did it, but I might do it differently because I don't like oil going through the diesel fuel filter. I like the connection after the filer.

[Greenbullenergies]

Hi Chris - really apreciated the simplicity of the design, have a look at our website greenbull for a series product we have been selling in Europe - we call it the Kyoto filter - similar to your aluminium prefilter we manufacture it wit a 3 micron filter so we can also use it all the way to commonrails- we also use the Pollaks - simple and effective! best regards Hans

[romansoldierofhonor]

dude you are fucking smart. especially with the asking for oil from restaurants.. but are you using the dirty grease and just filtering it? or are you using the new grease tubs they use? also how does it run? does it give you much trouble?

im not a ford fan but i only like the diesel trucks and the 7.3 is a hell of an engine.

[Delticola]

@romansoldierofhonor Thanks for the compliment about being fucking smart. It is a pretty cool little design I created but I wish I was fucking smarter then I am. The grease is dirty and free. I filter the dirty oil. Letting it settle for a couple months makes it very easy to filter. Just trash the crap at the bottom of the settled container.

[sycostang67]

Wow, nice work. I did not expect to see a tank that size in your bed though. Just out of curiosity, where do you get your oil from to fill that monster? Feel free to decline if you dont wish to disclose your source.

[Delticola]

@sycostang67 Thanks for the compliment. Here is my advice on OIL. Find one or two restruants that you freequent weekly with a family member, like a wife or what ever. Then after the 4th visit break into your request for oil. I always tell my oil sources that I won't make any mess, that I'll not very often need oil, once every several months or 3 times a year. Offer to pay if you have to, it's really really cheap.

[SoapLoversUnite]

Hello what is the deal with running the inside the water line is that need to heat the vegetable oil up for it to burn. If so what do you do until the water get hot and don't it sound better to run it in the tail pipe it would heat it alot more and faster. I seen a design on motors on here that you can run a fuel line in the exhaust pipe of a motor and then run almost any liquid in the tank for gas as long as like 20% of it was a type of oil. Water, wiper fluid, anything

[Delticola]

@SoapLoversUnite Your comment cannot be entirely serious is it? 20% oil won't mix with water or wiper fluid, it will make a mess. The tail pipe is far too hot for heating oil, at some point oil combusts, somewhere around 500 degrees F. The reason to heat the oil is not so it will burn but so it will flow quickly and efficiently through the injectors for a spray into the cylinders for compression combustion.

[rekjavicxxx]

That's super awesome!! I remember when I used to be creative like that :)  My imagination doesn't seem to serve me as well as it used to LOL

[bigbraunboy]

wow im amazed GOOD JOB :D!!

[gr8fuljerry]

I want to get a kit from you.

I want to use one of my existing 2 diesel fuel tanks as my used vegetable oil tank. I figured on using an immersion heater powered by 12 volt. I have a 1984 F250 with a non-turbo, 6.9 diesel. How do I contact you? Thank you for posting your conversion video! Thank you for the name and location of the distributor for the flex metal tubing. Attaboy!

[Delticola]

Jerry: Sent you a message to your YouTube acct. with my email info and other contact info.

[tpvalley]

what about the fuel return, do u have a 2 way valve on that aswell as the inlet pipe, otherwise ur diesel tank will get the returned veg oil!

If its got a stanadyne type pump these can seize due to high viscosity of veg oil unless its heated to above 45 degrees C, they will run but be careful to be sure.

The bosch pumps r best, I can run mine on single tank veg oil even when cold!

[Delticola]

I would strongly recommend not using your factory tank. No matter how good you filter you oil, even to 1 micron, there is still setteling from used oil. Settleing of microscopic food particle, these microscopic food particles build up on the bottom of the tank and in the pump and lines. If you use a factory tank, pump, and lines you're asking for more work . If you want a 3rd non-factory tank, that you can clean and remove, there's plenty of room under a Ford at the chassis for another tank.

[Santhuff1]

You should sell kits for this set up.

[pictureman63]

I Think The 2 Way & Hose In A Hose Is A Great Design Where Can I Get A 2 Way Or The Design To Get One Built???

Great Job 4 Thumbs Up

[Delticola]

Thanks for the comment and compliment. I just decided yesterday I can supply everything but the tank and brackets to mount........for $1200. The material cost is about $800-$1000 so $1200 for everything but the tank is CHEAP. Or if someone just wants some advice on the design just ask. Thanks again.

[bagawk]

Neat setup! I have a racor filter mounted under the hood with a electric heater wrap around it as well as a flat plate heat exchanger. Also user a little pump near the tank to help keep the fuel flowing.

[abe0023]

wow thats really cool i like the design and the capacityof the tank, i am working on a similar design, i am trying to create a solar powered car

[MrJoeCage]

that's great. this technology needed to become the norm 25 or 30 years ago; perhaps we wouldn't be in such a state with the climate change. almost all of the harmful gasses that enter the atmosphere get there from the two or three billion cars that run on a daily basis, or so I've heard.

[SectorSos]

WoW, Steve, great job on that truck. very great indeed. You worked on it all by yourself ?

[Delticola]

Designed the entire system myself. Obtained the materials myself. Had help in welding of the stainless. Had help on the aluminum tank welding. Had a little electrical wiring help on the switch and the pump. Forgot to discuss the pump. Might have to make a whole new video.

[Christopherabrown]

Great job on that truck and the video. Very informative, JC whitney-love it!

Your 2 in one is good idea.

What do you mean when you say "flexible metal tubing", or the oil conduit inside the hose w/coolant?

[Delticola]

The Flexible metal hose. Maybe a new technology, but it's braided. It's 100% metal, no rubber. Each end of the hose has a threaded piece, in my case it's a male threaded piece. Because I have a female threaded piece in each of the "2 in 1."

[Christopherabrown]

That has got to be new technology. All the braided metal hose I know of has a nylon liner as a seal. Got a manufacturers name?

[Delticola]

I purchased my flexible braided hose from Hose Express in Beaumont Texas. However, they are a distributer of fine hoses and hose ware........I don't know the mfg. but I've looked in the hose and there is no lining. Magic.