Winston Churchill /: "Dieser Krieg ist ein englischer Krieg, und sein Ziel ist die Vernichtung Deutschlands."
Am 3.9.1939, dem Tag der britischen Kriegserklärung.
"Das unverzeihliche Verbrechen Deutschlands vor dem Zweiten Weltkrieg war der Versuch, seine Wirtschaftskraft aus dem Welthandelssystem herauszulösen und ein eigenes Austauschsystem zu schaffen, bei dem die Weltfinanz nicht mitverdienen konnte."
I'm Filipino from far flung Philippines , it's look good. maybe u can add ENglish subtitle. i wish i can Go there. Our national Heroes been in Germany .
This is a political-rightwing pseudo documentatary film!
David Irving, the so called history expert in later chapters of this docu is a holocaust gainsayer and has faked his figures about the victims in the dresden bombing night. Draw your own conclusions!
@DocLovePeace possible but many witnesses see the obligatory small town numbers way below even low 50k as only a fraction and possible only a part of remnants that COULD be found. even english wikipedia firestorm article has 150 thousand victims in a table of casualties of cities.
one comment summed it up at least interestingly:
dresden before holocaust with refugees from russian front at least 600k up to 850k
dresden after the war 450k at best. historical revisionism?
@jutubaeh did you know jews were persecuted if they were full jews in blood or habit? did you know honourable jews were not being persecuted if they faught in ww 1 or at least got a commendation?
i suppose you dont intend to make any genetically mixed jews or jewish races in
europe consideration... you must be a doctor in follows ship i suspect.
people like doclovepeace (funny name for a warcrime-supporter) try to cover up the fact that Dresden in February 1945 was flooded with over 500 000 refugees from Eastern Europe. These people knew what "Allied liberation of Europe" in truth meant: rape, child-abuse, torture and murder. Which is why they fled.
The refugees, mainly women, children and elderly, were all in the area Prager Strasse/Bayrische Strasse - the centre of the Firestorm.
From a Firestorm there is no escape. They all perished in the flames. And notice, this excludes the number of Dresdners who were murdered.
The Angloamericans lied to the world, when they blew up 9/11 to have pretext for invading Iraq, or how they deliberately sent the LUSITANIA into the war zone to start war on Germany. Allied history is lies.
@DocLovePeace Faked figures? You mean, like your country published fake figures, claiming it was 4 Million at Auschwitz? lol
What a funny thing, that when you go today to Auschwitz memorial site, the memorial plate says: "one and a half million died here".....
Sorry, but every educated person in the world today knows, that the "innocent" Allies, who killed millions, are the ones who publish fake figures. And Dresden was a Holocaust, like it or not. Shame on your country.
@DocLovePeace ...and when i say, shame on your country, i dont mean for the evil things your grandfathers have done, because this is not your fault.
But i mean, shame on you, for lying about your atrocities, for trying to whitewash Allied wacrimes, for trying to cover up your Holocausts and thus, for insulting the massgraves of innocent children and mothers, brutally murdered by your own grandfather with a grin on his face.
@robinhood48 Hör mal, was ganz anderes: Sieh mal den Anfang des films, der ist sehr ergreifend, mit diesen poetischen Worten, obgleich so tragischer Inhalt.
Die Melodie!!! Bitte, was ist die Melodie?? Weisst du das zufällig?
habe vor einem halben Jahr den Channel-owner gefragt, aber keine Antwort! Komm, du bist doch gebildet, erkennst du die Melodie? Ich MUSS das wissen!
PS: Was du über dieses miese Stück Dreck da unten sagst, ist alles 100 prozent richtig. Ich unterschreibe jedes Wort.
@robinhood48 Nee, dazu klingt es zu kunstvoll. Es gibt auch eine Werbung von Fischerkösen ("Als die Sonne verschlief", kleiner Zeichentrick-Werbefilm über OSRAM Birnen auf Norwegisch von ca. 1940), da hab ich das Musikstück auch entdeckt.
Ich tipppe ja auf Wagner, Schütz, Schubert oder Lortzing......ich bin ganz sicher es ist ein bekannter Komponist, irgendwie hört man die "Seele" dieses Menschen heraus, und sie klingt so verdammt vertraut. Muss ein berühmter Komiponist sein.
@robinhood48 Ja, ist es! Sie stammt aus dem tschechischen Märchenfilm "Die Jungfrau und das Ungeheuer" aus den 70ern. Es ist einer meiner Lieblingsfilme und durch Zufall entdeckte ich die Aufnahme hier. Es scheint sogar die selbe Einspielung zu sein.
@robinhood48 meint ihr die Musik? Ist sie leider nicht, habe mir grade den Tschechichen Film angesehen. Völlig andere Musik, und sogar andere Instrumente. Ich muss unbedingt herausbekommen wer diese Musik oben im Dresden-Film komponiert hat. Ich tippe auf einen Österreicher, Lortzing oder Strauss. Ich muss das unbedingt herausfinden. Es ist aber definitiv etwas altes, keine Filmmusik.
@Elberiver11 Dann hast du was falsch gemacht. Es ist original die Musik aus dem tschechischen Film "Die Jungfra und das Ungeheuer". Sogar die originale Aufnahme. Ich habe sie aus dem Film herauskopiert und kann sie dir gerne als Vergleich schicken.
Es gibt einen Werbe-Film von 1937, in dem die Musik auch vorkommt, und zwar das Norwegische "hvordan det allikevel blev lyst da solen forsov sig" ("der Tag als die Sonne verschlief"), allerdings dort nur auszugsweise und vermischt mit Elementen einer Verdi-Oper, ich glaube "Nabucco". Die Musik wurde also definitiv 40 Jahre oder früher vor dem CSSR-Film komponiert.
Ich muss unbedingt herausfinden, um welches Stück es sich handelt.
Da wählt ein Volk nur ein wenig Nationalsozialisten an die Regierung, verfolgt ein bisschen die Opposition und jüdischen Mitbürger, tötet seine Behinderten, fängt ein klein wenig Krieg an, der nichtmal ganz Europa verwüstet, rottet die Juden aus, wo sie gefasst werden können (waren ja nicht alle), schon werden die Spielkameraden unfair und machen unsere Städte kaputt. Wie gemein.
Warum sollte man Sieger bestrafen ? Ich Denke auch nicht das wenn die Deutschen gesigt hätten die Generäle bestraft wurden für Deutsche Kriegsverbrechen, oder ?
Der Führer hat befohlen, wir werden folgen. Wenn wir je treu und unverbrüchlich an den Sieg geglaubt haben, dann in dieser Stunde der nationalen Besinnung und der inneren Aufrichtung. Wir sehen ihn greifbar nahe vor uns liegen; wir müssen nur zufassen. Wir müssen nur die Entschlusskraft aufbringen, alles seinem Dienst unterzuordnen. Das ist das Gebot der Stunde. Und darum lautet von jetzt ab die Parole: Nun, Volk, steh auf, und Sturm, brich los!“ Ich frage euch: Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?
@eddie123e Your German is terrible. Please don't use it. Otherwise people don't believe your stories about spending for years in Germany as an interpreter.
if you agree that alot of us brits are good people why do you say in some comments that you hope we get nuked? its stupid that you would happily kill millions and millions of innocent british people for no reason but still have the nerve to say killing 500,000 krauts during a war (which was the fault of germany anyway) was evil and monsterous! just look in the mirror and youll see evil, thats if the mirror doesnt crack!
@hagalruno be careful with this person, you are going to waste time on him. His original accout was LordGodofMercy, he runs 20 fake accounts, like Mutley0777, Missypanglos Themisterplangloss, blockthehood and so on.
He comes only to insult the millions of children and women, murdered by the "good" Allies in WW II, if he was a decent person he would respect ALL innocents who died in the war, but his foul and blasphemic comments show that he prefers to spit on the graves. You should block him.
@hagalruno Note that this is an impersonator "TheMrPanglosss" / "TheMrPanglos". He posts this stuff to harm me. I have reported about hundred posts to the YT Admins. Will you help me to get these accounts expellend.
THE ACCOUNTS "TheMrPanglosss" / "TheMrPanglos" ARE NOT ME!!!
And Churchill thanked Harris in a curious manner: You did exactly what I wished but you became "hot" after Dresden. To save my career, you have to move to South Africa. Your crews won't get the campaign medal because you so enthusiastically implemented my orders, so enthusastically that not even your supervisor Sir Charles Portal had authority on you. That all was my fault, of course, but it is my career or yours. So go to South Africa out of sight and shut up.
Dresdeners were loyal Nazi supporters who provided the physical and moral support necessary for the conduct of the war. Their own government was responsible for their unnecessary deaths. Those butchered, shot into lime pits, gassed, or starved to death in the Holocaust supported no warring regimes. As long as there are posters who try to drag others down to their level and debase them to expiate their own guilty feelings, I will speak for those who died securing their freedom to do so.
@eddie123e "Dresdeners were loyal Nazi supporters who provided the physical and moral support necessary for the conduct of the war"
How can you verify their loyality to the Nazi government in a police state where anyt criticts meant death?
Secondly, it was the British government which was responsible of the deaths of the Dresdeners and lots of refugees from the eastern territories of Germany.
Thirdly, those who died there were not aware of the Holocaust.
@eddie123e "Their own government was responsible for their unnecessary deaths."
Yes, absolutely correct. The Nazi government was evi as it killed ca. 22M people of which the Jews were only a fraction (I wonder why only they are remembered as the victims of the Nazi govt. Why do all just sneer at the anti-Nazi resistance and the many German countrymwn who opposed the dictatorship?).
The Govt. of Britain WAS ALLIED WITH THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT OF STALIN WHICH KILLE 52M SOVIET CITIZENS.
well wrote ! the allied and the soviet commided a lot of crime against humanity but had never been punished because they were the winner of the ww2.
The soviet army under the order of Stalin killed more Soviet citisens then the Nazi !
And I don't mension the crimes they commited in Poland (it was the Frenchmen duty to protecte them, but the didn't and they didn't decrare the war to the UdssR.)
the british government (Churchill) gave the order to destroi Dresden because he thought that the civilistes shoudl blame the nazi for this crime.
I've been in Dresden and I talked with old people who survived to the destruction of the town. You can imagine how they soffered !
And you dare blame this victime. Churchill wanted the war because Germany was a competitor for England that musted been derstroi. the Dresden bombing war a crime against humanity !
@hagalruno I am one of the 'old people' you refer to. I have also visited Dresden but i also visited Bergen Belsen in June 1945. Additionally I lived through air raids in England. I dont blame the victims. I simply say that unlike the victims of the Holocaust who supported neither side, Dresdeners did support the Nazi regime as long as it was NOT Dresdeners that were being killed. They changed their views only when it was the turn of Dresden to suffer the same kinds of air as London, Warsaw etc
can you prove that the dresdner supported the nazi ?
Dont forget that, GB bombed Germany the first. Churchil wanted the war:
" It must be clear that we do not lead this war against Hitler or the National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people whom it is necessary to annihilate for ever, indifferently if she(it) is in the hands of Hitler or of a father of Jesuit "
( Emrys Hughes, Winston Churchill the B sharp Career in was him(her) to Peace, S 145)
Churchill knew about a futur airattak on Coventry but he sacrified his own people to protect the secret of enigma. Chruchill were american and jew he did do the whol of the GB. his behaviour during the war was Pitiful: he put himself in a save place instead of staying near the civilians.
The queen was admirable and brave. She stayed in London to support her subjects! What did Churchill good for your country and for well of the English?
There is no validity in blaming Hitler and the Nazis for WW2. No country can initiate a war on this scale without the support of the vast majority of its population who have to supply both the cannons and the cannon fodder. Dresdeners were unstinting in their support of their beloved Adolf. Those who were shot, hung, gassed or starved to death in the holocaust were entirely innocent. They gave no such support to any war effort or action. This was a true war crime without paralllel.
@eddie123e "There is no validity in blaming Hitler and the Nazis for WW2. "
Yes there is validity but ...
... but Nuremberg was a farce because many ex Nazis were exempt from charges whenever they tirned "useful" for the post-ww2 administration in the occupied territories.
Nuremberg was also farce because the Allied had committed exactly similar crimes as the Nazi have done. This does not diminsh the severity of the Nazi crimes but shows the Allied as they truly were.
@LordGodOfMercy "I think Paul McCartney's 'Fool on the hill' "
That's you. You have your 20+ clones like wooden puppets which appear to be "in time" like the cavalry, or "deus ex machina" accompanying you whenever you say something pompous and conceieted. You are "LordGodOfMercy", are you? A pompous ass only can give oneself a name that ridiculous.
I do have my friends, and I am well-liked by them, though known to be furious at times (but with reason).
@mutley0777 Excellent shout. I'm getting thoroughly sick of all the posts the Germans and their apologists are making about the RAF and its leadership. The German Luftwaffe torched every major British city in their night time bomber offensive against us during 1940/41. Our cities were undefended and the German luftwaffe took full advantage. The German cities got the same back from the RAF a few years later and now they moan like hell.
Really? Well done? He sacrificed 55000 young men with no significant results from a military point of view.
He was also implementing a dubious POLITICAL killing program which was Churchill's brainchild - THE DE-HOUSING PLAN AIMING AT A MAXIMAL LOSS OF CIVILIAN LIFE ON THE GROUND.
The RAF night time bombing requited 650000 civilian lives mainly young mothers with their babies, schoolchildren, elderly and hospitalized - a war crime.
@mutley0777 Curiously an user named blockthehood used exactly these words about me and almost at the same time. The level of his posts is low (guaranteed!) as yours and his sparse vocabulary (hardly 100 words) is identical.
You are LordGodOfMercy mastering 20+ clones to control posters here. But you fail. The labeling of these posters only brings bad reputation to you, harming your country too no matter how loyal or faithful you consider yourself.
Alles dummes Geschwätz!! Ich kenne genug Zeitzeugen und belegte Aussagen von W. Churchill, die belegen, das mindestens 300.000 deutsche Bürger (Flüchtlinge,Einwohner,etc) ums Leben gekommen sind!! Wi sagte Churchill so treffend: Ich will 600.000 braten sehen! Dann noch die Treibjagd von US-Jagdpiloten, die mit Einzelfeuer gezielt Frauen und Kinder am Elbufer erschossen!! Es war ein Völkerrechts- und Kriegsverbrechen, schlimmer wie Nagasaki u. Hiroshima!!
@toewerboy Ja die Aliierte haben viele Kriegverbrechen verübt leider gab es keinen Nürnberggericht um sie dafür zu bestraffen.
Churchill:
"Das müssen sich darüber klar sein, dass dieser Krieg nicht gegen Hitler oder den Nationalsozialismus geht, sondern gegen die Kraft des deutsches Volkes, die man für immer zerschlagen will, gleichgültig ob sie in den Händen Hitlers oder eines Jesuitenpaters liegt"
(Emrys Hughes, Winston Churchill -His Career in War an Peace, S. 145 )
@toewerboy erst einmal möchte ich dir recht geben und zwar das die oft verlautete opferzahl von 25.000 toten höchst zweifelhaft ist. ob es aber tatäschlich bis zu 300.000 tote war halte ich für eher fragwürdig. in späteren berichten so viel ist zumindest klar, wurden die opferzahlen nacht unten "korrigiert" da sonst der ruf nach allierten kriegsverbrechen zu laut geworden wäre.
@toewerboy Es war ein Völkerrechts- und Kriegsverbrechen, schlimmer wie Nagasaki u. Hiroshima!! Please allow me to offer a few facts to complete the picture. More people died in Japanese POW and slave labour camps EVERY MONTH that were killed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. A senior Japanese academic recently calcuulate that dropping these two Abombs saved ca 20 million Japanese lives. This is the number that would have been killed had the invasion of Japan been carried out! The bombs stopped that!
It 's right that Japanese didn't respected the human right but that no reason to kill inocent people. The whole word is still paying the ecological consequences of the atome bombe on Japan. (and of the other atomic bombe)
The Américan and the GB. are not legitim to kritique the Japanese about this theme. They treated their POW worse then the Germans did.
@hagalruno You are correct. There is never a good reason for killing innocent people. The Jews in the death camps were innocent. The people in London and Dresden were not innocent. They supported their governments. Dresdeners turned out in hundreds of thousands to raise their hands in the Nazi salute and acream 'Sieg Heil' when Hitler visited Dresden. They had no problems with bombs falling of London, Coventry, Warsaw Rotterdam. Only bombing Dresden was a war crime.
@eddie123e I have been observing your aggressive garbage on the Dresden-videos with for quite a while now. Everything you say has one basic meaning: This massacre was "justice".
You seem to believe yourself to be in the position of a judge. So i ask you: Who are you, to play judge? Are you God? You insult all those massgraves of childern, babies, mothers and elderly.
You are not in the moral position to judge. Only God can judge about life and death, and be careful when trying to play god.
@hagalruno "They treated their POW worse then the Germans did." German POWs in my country were treated with respect. We had 3 voluntarily working on our farm in Scotland. Hundreds of Geman POWs stayed on in Scotland and England after the war and settled here. Not one Allied soldier who was a POW in Germany wanted to stay there after the war. The German treatment of US and British POWs was mostly fair. Their treatment of Russian POWs was barbaric. That is widely accepted.
and the russian treated their prisonner barbaric, the one who could'n work any more were killed.
About the POw in Scottland, The scott were misstread by the Britten maybe that why they treaded the German pow better.
Of course no Pow wanted to stay in Germany after the war. The land were total destroyed thank to the Alliees., the people starved. You are the Winner of the war but the loser too. GB became the shadow of its-self so as Europe unfortunatly !
1) America started war on Japan, not the other way round. Pearl Harbour was the reaction of Roosevelt's economic warfare on Japan. He pretended "surprise", but he had received a WAR WARNING from Tokyo 14 days before. Roosevelt was one of the biggest crooks in human history. No wonder he allied with Stalin.
2) the bombs did NOT stop the war. Everybody knows that today.
3) if your aggressive country (the USA ) had not started war on Japan, there would be ZERO dead POW's.
Read "How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan's Attack on Pearl Harbor" , by Robert Higgs
You can find Professor Higg's article in the internet, just google for it. The pearl-harbour lie, with which America tried to provoke Japan into war, has been debunked long time ago. Why dont you get rid of your out-dated hollywood-nostalgia? Read some real science, rather than your silly TV -Shows.
Allein die Vorstellung, dass diese wunderschöne Stadt mitsamt ihrer Bewohner in nur einer Nacht dem Erdboden gleichgemacht wurde, bringt mich zum Weinen.. vor allem jedes Jahr auf's Neue, wenn in der Stadt daran gedacht wird. Es hätte nicht sein müssen, wie viele andere Opfer des Krieges auch nicht.
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Winston Churchill /: "Dieser Krieg ist ein englischer Krieg, und sein Ziel ist die Vernichtung Deutschlands."
Am 3.9.1939, dem Tag der britischen Kriegserklärung.
"Das unverzeihliche Verbrechen Deutschlands vor dem Zweiten Weltkrieg war der Versuch, seine Wirtschaftskraft aus dem Welthandelssystem herauszulösen und ein eigenes Austauschsystem zu schaffen, bei dem die Weltfinanz nicht mitverdienen konnte."
Wer wollte den Krieg ?-auf you tube !
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Elberiver11 1 month ago
@robinhood48 Are you still having trouble with your Arse hole ?
OurBomberHarris 2 months ago
I'm Filipino from far flung Philippines , it's look good. maybe u can add ENglish subtitle. i wish i can Go there. Our national Heroes been in Germany .
romanov040404 3 months ago
This is a political-rightwing pseudo documentatary film!
David Irving, the so called history expert in later chapters of this docu is a holocaust gainsayer and has faked his figures about the victims in the dresden bombing night. Draw your own conclusions!
DocLovePeace 3 months ago
@DocLovePeace possible but many witnesses see the obligatory small town numbers way below even low 50k as only a fraction and possible only a part of remnants that COULD be found. even english wikipedia firestorm article has 150 thousand victims in a table of casualties of cities.
one comment summed it up at least interestingly:
dresden before holocaust with refugees from russian front at least 600k up to 850k
dresden after the war 450k at best. historical revisionism?
jutubaeh 1 month ago
@jutubaeh did you know jews were persecuted if they were full jews in blood or habit? did you know honourable jews were not being persecuted if they faught in ww 1 or at least got a commendation?
i suppose you dont intend to make any genetically mixed jews or jewish races in
europe consideration... you must be a doctor in follows ship i suspect.
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Elberiver11 1 month ago
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people like doclovepeace (funny name for a warcrime-supporter) try to cover up the fact that Dresden in February 1945 was flooded with over 500 000 refugees from Eastern Europe. These people knew what "Allied liberation of Europe" in truth meant: rape, child-abuse, torture and murder. Which is why they fled.
Elberiver11 1 month ago
The refugees, mainly women, children and elderly, were all in the area Prager Strasse/Bayrische Strasse - the centre of the Firestorm.
From a Firestorm there is no escape. They all perished in the flames. And notice, this excludes the number of Dresdners who were murdered.
The Angloamericans lied to the world, when they blew up 9/11 to have pretext for invading Iraq, or how they deliberately sent the LUSITANIA into the war zone to start war on Germany. Allied history is lies.
Elberiver11 1 month ago
@DocLovePeace Faked figures? You mean, like your country published fake figures, claiming it was 4 Million at Auschwitz? lol
What a funny thing, that when you go today to Auschwitz memorial site, the memorial plate says: "one and a half million died here".....
Sorry, but every educated person in the world today knows, that the "innocent" Allies, who killed millions, are the ones who publish fake figures. And Dresden was a Holocaust, like it or not. Shame on your country.
Elberiver11 1 month ago
@DocLovePeace ...and when i say, shame on your country, i dont mean for the evil things your grandfathers have done, because this is not your fault.
But i mean, shame on you, for lying about your atrocities, for trying to whitewash Allied wacrimes, for trying to cover up your Holocausts and thus, for insulting the massgraves of innocent children and mothers, brutally murdered by your own grandfather with a grin on his face.
Elberiver11 1 month ago
PLEASE - - - Someone tell me please, what is the melody in the beginning??? PLEASE i need to know !! Is it Wagner, Schubert, Haydn?
Elberiver11 4 months ago
@OurBomberHarris
You love this war criminal Harris because you are the same piece of shit like him.
robinhood48 4 months ago
@robinhood48 Hör mal, was ganz anderes: Sieh mal den Anfang des films, der ist sehr ergreifend, mit diesen poetischen Worten, obgleich so tragischer Inhalt.
Die Melodie!!! Bitte, was ist die Melodie?? Weisst du das zufällig?
habe vor einem halben Jahr den Channel-owner gefragt, aber keine Antwort! Komm, du bist doch gebildet, erkennst du die Melodie? Ich MUSS das wissen!
PS: Was du über dieses miese Stück Dreck da unten sagst, ist alles 100 prozent richtig. Ich unterschreibe jedes Wort.
Elberiver11 4 months ago
@Elberiver11
Das könnte auch eine Filmmusik sein, nicht sicher.
robinhood48 4 months ago
@robinhood48 Nee, dazu klingt es zu kunstvoll. Es gibt auch eine Werbung von Fischerkösen ("Als die Sonne verschlief", kleiner Zeichentrick-Werbefilm über OSRAM Birnen auf Norwegisch von ca. 1940), da hab ich das Musikstück auch entdeckt.
Ich tipppe ja auf Wagner, Schütz, Schubert oder Lortzing......ich bin ganz sicher es ist ein bekannter Komponist, irgendwie hört man die "Seele" dieses Menschen heraus, und sie klingt so verdammt vertraut. Muss ein berühmter Komiponist sein.
Elberiver11 4 months ago
@robinhood48 auf jeden Fall werde ich diese Melodie, seit ich diesen erschütternden Film hier sah, immer mit Dresden in Verbindung bringen.
Elberiver11 4 months ago
@robinhood48 Ja, ist es! Sie stammt aus dem tschechischen Märchenfilm "Die Jungfrau und das Ungeheuer" aus den 70ern. Es ist einer meiner Lieblingsfilme und durch Zufall entdeckte ich die Aufnahme hier. Es scheint sogar die selbe Einspielung zu sein.
belcantooo 2 months ago
@belcantooo
Vielen Dank!
robinhood48 2 months ago
@robinhood48 Buggers little Boys The filthy cunt
TheMrRector 2 months ago
@robinhood48 Has Aids the filthy faggot
OurBomberHarris 2 months ago
@robinhood48 meint ihr die Musik? Ist sie leider nicht, habe mir grade den Tschechichen Film angesehen. Völlig andere Musik, und sogar andere Instrumente. Ich muss unbedingt herausbekommen wer diese Musik oben im Dresden-Film komponiert hat. Ich tippe auf einen Österreicher, Lortzing oder Strauss. Ich muss das unbedingt herausfinden. Es ist aber definitiv etwas altes, keine Filmmusik.
Elberiver11 1 month ago
@Elberiver11 Dann hast du was falsch gemacht. Es ist original die Musik aus dem tschechischen Film "Die Jungfra und das Ungeheuer". Sogar die originale Aufnahme. Ich habe sie aus dem Film herauskopiert und kann sie dir gerne als Vergleich schicken.
belcantooo 1 month ago
@belcantooo ja bitte, mach mal. Ich habe nicht den ganzen Film gesehen, aber die Titelmusik zu Beginn des Films ist es definitiv nicht.
Kann man das per Youtube-mail schicken?
Elberiver11 1 month ago
Ähm, nein, ich habe nichts falsch gemacht.
Es gibt einen Werbe-Film von 1937, in dem die Musik auch vorkommt, und zwar das Norwegische "hvordan det allikevel blev lyst da solen forsov sig" ("der Tag als die Sonne verschlief"), allerdings dort nur auszugsweise und vermischt mit Elementen einer Verdi-Oper, ich glaube "Nabucco". Die Musik wurde also definitiv 40 Jahre oder früher vor dem CSSR-Film komponiert.
Ich muss unbedingt herausfinden, um welches Stück es sich handelt.
Elberiver11 1 month ago
Die Amerikaner,Russen und KO sind nicht anders als Deutschen zum Krieg gehören immer 2 oder sogar mehr!
OoGermany 5 months ago
Der 2. Weltkrieg hat so viel Leid gebracht und so viele Menschen starben..! Es gibt unendliche viele Geschichten die nie erzählt werden können.
Wir sollten an alle Opfer denken und nicht versuchen die eine Gräueltat durch eine andere zu entschuldigen.
Für das töten von unschuldigen Menschen gibt es keine Entschuldigung.
ThePhobos579 6 months ago
Da wählt ein Volk nur ein wenig Nationalsozialisten an die Regierung, verfolgt ein bisschen die Opposition und jüdischen Mitbürger, tötet seine Behinderten, fängt ein klein wenig Krieg an, der nichtmal ganz Europa verwüstet, rottet die Juden aus, wo sie gefasst werden können (waren ja nicht alle), schon werden die Spielkameraden unfair und machen unsere Städte kaputt. Wie gemein.
whiteproduct 6 months ago 2
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Dem ist nichts mehr hinzuzufügen! Super Beitrag! :-)
Nihilistable 6 months ago
@whiteproduct hm warum erinnert mich das bloss an apoklütse nau?
jutubaeh 1 month ago
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Elberiver11 1 month ago
Warum sollte man Sieger bestrafen ? Ich Denke auch nicht das wenn die Deutschen gesigt hätten die Generäle bestraft wurden für Deutsche Kriegsverbrechen, oder ?
The2002ALPINA 8 months ago
Der Führer hat befohlen, wir werden folgen. Wenn wir je treu und unverbrüchlich an den Sieg geglaubt haben, dann in dieser Stunde der nationalen Besinnung und der inneren Aufrichtung. Wir sehen ihn greifbar nahe vor uns liegen; wir müssen nur zufassen. Wir müssen nur die Entschlusskraft aufbringen, alles seinem Dienst unterzuordnen. Das ist das Gebot der Stunde. Und darum lautet von jetzt ab die Parole: Nun, Volk, steh auf, und Sturm, brich los!“ Ich frage euch: Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?
eddie123e 8 months ago
@eddie123e Your German is terrible. Please don't use it. Otherwise people don't believe your stories about spending for years in Germany as an interpreter.
TheMrPangloss 8 months ago
@TheMrRector l'anglais, je l'écris mieux que toi le français et je t'emmerde. Quand on ne sait parler qu'une seule langue on ferme sa gueule.
Da du keine andere Spache beherrst hast du nichts zu sagen !
Se tu non possa scrivere nel'italiano meglio di me, va fan culo !
esli ti nie umieyesh pisat' pa russkiy tak hosho tchem ia, nie mnie nadael !
hagalruno 8 months ago
@TheYellowbellyfins
stop writting stupid comments or spread hate !
the message is gulty for all the other users !
hagalruno 8 months ago
@hagalruno
Quand on est pas foutu de parler une autre langue que la sienne, on ne se permet pas de faire des remarques à la con.
Se non sappia un'altra lingua che la sua lingua, non si permessa di scrivere parole di merda !
Da du warscheinlich nicht fàhig bist, eine andere Sprache als deine zu herrschen, sölltest du dich nicht gestatten, blöde Anmerkungen zu schreiben !
i ya nie mogu pisat po russkiy potamu shto u menia niet kirilovkoj azbukoy ! izvini za achibki
hagalruno 9 months ago
@derjustierer Don't talk about my brother like that you Nazi loving prick
mutley0777 11 months ago
@pangloss4bullshit
yes Môsieur !
hagalruno 1 year ago
if you agree that alot of us brits are good people why do you say in some comments that you hope we get nuked? its stupid that you would happily kill millions and millions of innocent british people for no reason but still have the nerve to say killing 500,000 krauts during a war (which was the fault of germany anyway) was evil and monsterous! just look in the mirror and youll see evil, thats if the mirror doesnt crack!
TheStudvalley2011 1 year ago
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Elberiver11 1 month ago
how come one minute all the british deserve to be nuked and the next minute we're not all bad? make your mind up!
TheStudvalley2011 1 year ago
@hagalruno be careful with this person, you are going to waste time on him. His original accout was LordGodofMercy, he runs 20 fake accounts, like Mutley0777, Missypanglos Themisterplangloss, blockthehood and so on.
He comes only to insult the millions of children and women, murdered by the "good" Allies in WW II, if he was a decent person he would respect ALL innocents who died in the war, but his foul and blasphemic comments show that he prefers to spit on the graves. You should block him.
Elberiver11 1 year ago
@derjustierer
Ich werde die unanstàndige rede löschen Ich blockiere Sie deswegen.
Sie werde einen Schritt vowàrts machen wenn Sie lernen werden, sich auszudrücken, ohnen die andere zu beleidigen.
hagalruno 1 year ago
@TheMrPanglosss
I would like that you don't write this kind of commentar because they risk to close my channel.
It could be dangerous for you too. the jew are the most powerfull folk of the world and have a lot influence.
remember the Golda Meir 's list and what happend to the black septembers ' members.
They have been killed and all the Israël's ennemis are threated
hagalruno 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hagalruno Note that this is an impersonator "TheMrPanglosss" / "TheMrPanglos". He posts this stuff to harm me. I have reported about hundred posts to the YT Admins. Will you help me to get these accounts expellend.
THE ACCOUNTS "TheMrPanglosss" / "TheMrPanglos" ARE NOT ME!!!
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
'Bummer' Harris - a national embarrasment.
youknowsit45 1 year ago
You jerry buggers had it coming, well we gave it you didn't like it much did you Stop your whining you German dogs and move on
OurBomberHarris 1 year ago
"Thank you Sir Arthur Harris."
And Churchill thanked Harris in a curious manner: You did exactly what I wished but you became "hot" after Dresden. To save my career, you have to move to South Africa. Your crews won't get the campaign medal because you so enthusiastically implemented my orders, so enthusastically that not even your supervisor Sir Charles Portal had authority on you. That all was my fault, of course, but it is my career or yours. So go to South Africa out of sight and shut up.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
Thank you Sir Arthur Harris
mutley0777 1 year ago
@mutley0777
the bringing of document, archives, with the mention of the source of the information would be the best way to fight the lies.
hagalruno 1 year ago
Dresdeners were loyal Nazi supporters who provided the physical and moral support necessary for the conduct of the war. Their own government was responsible for their unnecessary deaths. Those butchered, shot into lime pits, gassed, or starved to death in the Holocaust supported no warring regimes. As long as there are posters who try to drag others down to their level and debase them to expiate their own guilty feelings, I will speak for those who died securing their freedom to do so.
eddie123e 1 year ago
@eddie123e "Dresdeners were loyal Nazi supporters who provided the physical and moral support necessary for the conduct of the war"
How can you verify their loyality to the Nazi government in a police state where anyt criticts meant death?
Secondly, it was the British government which was responsible of the deaths of the Dresdeners and lots of refugees from the eastern territories of Germany.
Thirdly, those who died there were not aware of the Holocaust.
British propaganda, eh?
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@eddie123e "Their own government was responsible for their unnecessary deaths."
Yes, absolutely correct. The Nazi government was evi as it killed ca. 22M people of which the Jews were only a fraction (I wonder why only they are remembered as the victims of the Nazi govt. Why do all just sneer at the anti-Nazi resistance and the many German countrymwn who opposed the dictatorship?).
The Govt. of Britain WAS ALLIED WITH THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT OF STALIN WHICH KILLE 52M SOVIET CITIZENS.
How come?
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss
well wrote ! the allied and the soviet commided a lot of crime against humanity but had never been punished because they were the winner of the ww2.
The soviet army under the order of Stalin killed more Soviet citisens then the Nazi !
And I don't mension the crimes they commited in Poland (it was the Frenchmen duty to protecte them, but the didn't and they didn't decrare the war to the UdssR.)
hagalruno 1 year ago
@eddie123e
the british government (Churchill) gave the order to destroi Dresden because he thought that the civilistes shoudl blame the nazi for this crime.
I've been in Dresden and I talked with old people who survived to the destruction of the town. You can imagine how they soffered !
And you dare blame this victime. Churchill wanted the war because Germany was a competitor for England that musted been derstroi. the Dresden bombing war a crime against humanity !
hagalruno 1 year ago
@hagalruno I am one of the 'old people' you refer to. I have also visited Dresden but i also visited Bergen Belsen in June 1945. Additionally I lived through air raids in England. I dont blame the victims. I simply say that unlike the victims of the Holocaust who supported neither side, Dresdeners did support the Nazi regime as long as it was NOT Dresdeners that were being killed. They changed their views only when it was the turn of Dresden to suffer the same kinds of air as London, Warsaw etc
eddie123e 1 year ago
@eddie123e
can you prove that the dresdner supported the nazi ?
Dont forget that, GB bombed Germany the first. Churchil wanted the war:
" It must be clear that we do not lead this war against Hitler or the National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people whom it is necessary to annihilate for ever, indifferently if she(it) is in the hands of Hitler or of a father of Jesuit "
( Emrys Hughes, Winston Churchill the B sharp Career in was him(her) to Peace, S 145)
hagalruno 1 year ago
@eddie123e
Churchill knew about a futur airattak on Coventry but he sacrified his own people to protect the secret of enigma. Chruchill were american and jew he did do the whol of the GB. his behaviour during the war was Pitiful: he put himself in a save place instead of staying near the civilians.
The queen was admirable and brave. She stayed in London to support her subjects! What did Churchill good for your country and for well of the English?
hagalruno 1 year ago
There is no validity in blaming Hitler and the Nazis for WW2. No country can initiate a war on this scale without the support of the vast majority of its population who have to supply both the cannons and the cannon fodder. Dresdeners were unstinting in their support of their beloved Adolf. Those who were shot, hung, gassed or starved to death in the holocaust were entirely innocent. They gave no such support to any war effort or action. This was a true war crime without paralllel.
eddie123e 1 year ago
@eddie123e "There is no validity in blaming Hitler and the Nazis for WW2. "
Yes there is validity but ...
... but Nuremberg was a farce because many ex Nazis were exempt from charges whenever they tirned "useful" for the post-ww2 administration in the occupied territories.
Nuremberg was also farce because the Allied had committed exactly similar crimes as the Nazi have done. This does not diminsh the severity of the Nazi crimes but shows the Allied as they truly were.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@LordGodOfMercy "I think Paul McCartney's 'Fool on the hill' "
That's you. You have your 20+ clones like wooden puppets which appear to be "in time" like the cavalry, or "deus ex machina" accompanying you whenever you say something pompous and conceieted. You are "LordGodOfMercy", are you? A pompous ass only can give oneself a name that ridiculous.
I do have my friends, and I am well-liked by them, though known to be furious at times (but with reason).
And again, where are your sources?
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@mutley0777 Excellent shout. I'm getting thoroughly sick of all the posts the Germans and their apologists are making about the RAF and its leadership. The German Luftwaffe torched every major British city in their night time bomber offensive against us during 1940/41. Our cities were undefended and the German luftwaffe took full advantage. The German cities got the same back from the RAF a few years later and now they moan like hell.
RedGoblinus 1 year ago
@mutley0777 "Sir Arthur Harris well done"
Really? Well done? He sacrificed 55000 young men with no significant results from a military point of view.
He was also implementing a dubious POLITICAL killing program which was Churchill's brainchild - THE DE-HOUSING PLAN AIMING AT A MAXIMAL LOSS OF CIVILIAN LIFE ON THE GROUND.
The RAF night time bombing requited 650000 civilian lives mainly young mothers with their babies, schoolchildren, elderly and hospitalized - a war crime.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss Pangloss you are a PRICK
mutley0777 1 year ago
@mutley0777 Curiously an user named blockthehood used exactly these words about me and almost at the same time. The level of his posts is low (guaranteed!) as yours and his sparse vocabulary (hardly 100 words) is identical.
You are LordGodOfMercy mastering 20+ clones to control posters here. But you fail. The labeling of these posters only brings bad reputation to you, harming your country too no matter how loyal or faithful you consider yourself.
TheMrPangloss 1 year ago
@TheMrPangloss Still playing the Clone card. You and Elberiver share the same views. You are Elberiver. Come on admit it
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
Alles dummes Geschwätz!! Ich kenne genug Zeitzeugen und belegte Aussagen von W. Churchill, die belegen, das mindestens 300.000 deutsche Bürger (Flüchtlinge,Einwohner,etc) ums Leben gekommen sind!! Wi sagte Churchill so treffend: Ich will 600.000 braten sehen! Dann noch die Treibjagd von US-Jagdpiloten, die mit Einzelfeuer gezielt Frauen und Kinder am Elbufer erschossen!! Es war ein Völkerrechts- und Kriegsverbrechen, schlimmer wie Nagasaki u. Hiroshima!!
toewerboy 1 year ago 15
@toewerboy Ja die Aliierte haben viele Kriegverbrechen verübt leider gab es keinen Nürnberggericht um sie dafür zu bestraffen.
Churchill:
"Das müssen sich darüber klar sein, dass dieser Krieg nicht gegen Hitler oder den Nationalsozialismus geht, sondern gegen die Kraft des deutsches Volkes, die man für immer zerschlagen will, gleichgültig ob sie in den Händen Hitlers oder eines Jesuitenpaters liegt"
(Emrys Hughes, Winston Churchill -His Career in War an Peace, S. 145 )
hagalruno 1 year ago 9
@toewerboy Das ist die Wahrheit! Das Elbufer und die Stadt war vollkommen überfüllt mit Flüchtlinge aus dem Osten!!
poper0069 1 year ago
@toewerboy erst einmal möchte ich dir recht geben und zwar das die oft verlautete opferzahl von 25.000 toten höchst zweifelhaft ist. ob es aber tatäschlich bis zu 300.000 tote war halte ich für eher fragwürdig. in späteren berichten so viel ist zumindest klar, wurden die opferzahlen nacht unten "korrigiert" da sonst der ruf nach allierten kriegsverbrechen zu laut geworden wäre.
Incluse1992 1 year ago
@toewerboy Es war ein Völkerrechts- und Kriegsverbrechen, schlimmer wie Nagasaki u. Hiroshima!! Please allow me to offer a few facts to complete the picture. More people died in Japanese POW and slave labour camps EVERY MONTH that were killed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. A senior Japanese academic recently calcuulate that dropping these two Abombs saved ca 20 million Japanese lives. This is the number that would have been killed had the invasion of Japan been carried out! The bombs stopped that!
eddie123e 1 year ago
@eddie123e
It 's right that Japanese didn't respected the human right but that no reason to kill inocent people. The whole word is still paying the ecological consequences of the atome bombe on Japan. (and of the other atomic bombe)
The Américan and the GB. are not legitim to kritique the Japanese about this theme. They treated their POW worse then the Germans did.
hagalruno 1 year ago
@hagalruno You are correct. There is never a good reason for killing innocent people. The Jews in the death camps were innocent. The people in London and Dresden were not innocent. They supported their governments. Dresdeners turned out in hundreds of thousands to raise their hands in the Nazi salute and acream 'Sieg Heil' when Hitler visited Dresden. They had no problems with bombs falling of London, Coventry, Warsaw Rotterdam. Only bombing Dresden was a war crime.
eddie123e 1 year ago
@eddie123e I have been observing your aggressive garbage on the Dresden-videos with for quite a while now. Everything you say has one basic meaning: This massacre was "justice".
You seem to believe yourself to be in the position of a judge. So i ask you: Who are you, to play judge? Are you God? You insult all those massgraves of childern, babies, mothers and elderly.
You are not in the moral position to judge. Only God can judge about life and death, and be careful when trying to play god.
Elberiver11 1 year ago
@hagalruno "They treated their POW worse then the Germans did." German POWs in my country were treated with respect. We had 3 voluntarily working on our farm in Scotland. Hundreds of Geman POWs stayed on in Scotland and England after the war and settled here. Not one Allied soldier who was a POW in Germany wanted to stay there after the war. The German treatment of US and British POWs was mostly fair. Their treatment of Russian POWs was barbaric. That is widely accepted.
eddie123e 1 year ago
@eddie123e well said Ed
mutley0777 1 year ago
@eddie123e
and the russian treated their prisonner barbaric, the one who could'n work any more were killed.
About the POw in Scottland, The scott were misstread by the Britten maybe that why they treaded the German pow better.
Of course no Pow wanted to stay in Germany after the war. The land were total destroyed thank to the Alliees., the people starved. You are the Winner of the war but the loser too. GB became the shadow of its-self so as Europe unfortunatly !
hagalruno 1 year ago
1) America started war on Japan, not the other way round. Pearl Harbour was the reaction of Roosevelt's economic warfare on Japan. He pretended "surprise", but he had received a WAR WARNING from Tokyo 14 days before. Roosevelt was one of the biggest crooks in human history. No wonder he allied with Stalin.
2) the bombs did NOT stop the war. Everybody knows that today.
3) if your aggressive country (the USA ) had not started war on Japan, there would be ZERO dead POW's.
Elberiver11 1 year ago
Read "How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan's Attack on Pearl Harbor" , by Robert Higgs
You can find Professor Higg's article in the internet, just google for it. The pearl-harbour lie, with which America tried to provoke Japan into war, has been debunked long time ago. Why dont you get rid of your out-dated hollywood-nostalgia? Read some real science, rather than your silly TV -Shows.
Elberiver11 1 year ago
Allein die Vorstellung, dass diese wunderschöne Stadt mitsamt ihrer Bewohner in nur einer Nacht dem Erdboden gleichgemacht wurde, bringt mich zum Weinen.. vor allem jedes Jahr auf's Neue, wenn in der Stadt daran gedacht wird. Es hätte nicht sein müssen, wie viele andere Opfer des Krieges auch nicht.
Ranja86 1 year ago