all people is not equal under the communism china,most of people is so poor,but major communist has so many privilege,car house food etc etc,,,,,,major communist in china just want to keep those privilege,so that why they killed historical amount of their citizen,its typical characteristic of communism,communist kill their against people without any permission necessary,china is perfectly lawless zone,chinese communist party killed historical amount of people for keep major communist`s privilege
In china,history is a bxxch every can fuck,many people want to protect the truth,but no one can do that.Nobody can help china,why?Why is god unfair?Why do god always hurt Chinese people?
Rest in peace for those who fell. I trust nobody died in vain - for China is changing. They died with great purpose. It's sad that so much death was needed...
We all should leave square before the deadline. 19 years after, I finally realized we did it in a wrong way, it hurt our family and China. What's more, it is abused by the West. It made CNN, BBC orgasm all those years.
After that, China made a very positive change, became quite open-minded, we all benefit from that. Freedom of mind is the freedom of the all.
May all those died lay in peace, go to heaven, or reincarnate into a good family. May God bless China keep on the right direction
We all should leave square before the deadline. 19 years after, I finally realized we did it in a wrong way, it hurt our family and China. What's more, it is abused by the West. It made CNN, BBC orgasm all those years.
After that, China made a very positive change, became quite open-minded, we all benefit from that. Freedom of mind is the freedom of the all.
May all those died lay in peace, go to heaven, or reincarnate into a good family. May God bless China keeping on the right direction.
It's an event that spanned almost 2 months. Both the students and government made many attempts to negotiated an agreement but failed. Finally on June 4th, government ordered military to open fire on those who do not leave the square. Most casualties actually resulted from Beijing locals who tried to stop the army, not the students. When the army reached the square, they stopped and ask the students to go home. Students finally decided to stop the protest and went home.
if you understand Mandarin there's a very comprehensive documentary on youtube. Most people posting here don't even understand what happened. This song is far from truth, but i do like the tone tho.
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The students were mostly used by higher ups in their battle for power. There's no need to go into details, but these students were unnecessary sacrifice.
it's not as simple as "Communist Party vs the people".
Before the evil communist regime, Chinese people inlived a better life. After the communist devel stepped into power, only Chinese people in HongKong and Taiwan have decent life.
Before the communist regime the country was deep in a serious chaos. I don't want to support the totalitarian regime, I just want to say that during the imperial era Chinese people never had such a high level of living standart as they have now.
So everyone who loves China has to forget about the history and about all the injustice inside the Chinese political system? Those who loves his country should be capable of criticizing it's leaders and not just support them as a blind sheep.
with "break china into smaller states", do you mean give back to Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner mongolia and so on , the freedom these people are worthy to have??
When I was in middle i was the uni student starts to attack army, the army was commanded not fighting back, but after many days, atacking by students, they leave to no choice, so i believe, no matter what happened, i trust my government, i trust my country.
i think we should be more rational to express our voices,i think the democracy is a good thing, but not for the china at that time,we should do things step by step.there is an old chiese saying:more haste,less speed.
keeping China in a stable situation is very important, which is good to everybody. Democracy is really good thing to every country. Democracy would elimilate corruption. China must take advantage of democracy serioudly.
My God, you have never lived in a communist counry, how can people who have never seen each other argue between themselves about matters not familiar to them.
Not particularly Tibet either, any incident like the Tiananmen Square Massacre, the Darfur Fighting, the Massare at Amritsar, the invasion of Tibet, tortures of prisoners at Guantanimo Bay, wrongful abuses of human rights...
Eh......what am I supposed to say after 49 comments of pointless e-arguments? How about "If any of you are so worried about freeing Tibet...stop logging onto Youtube every day and start doing something?"
YOU PPL SHOULD STOP ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER. this song and vid is a message to all showing the bravery of namy inncent civiallians killed by their own military for standing up for wat they beleive. the least we can do is show them some respect and promise that their cause will never be forgetten.
Indeed fuck china! with your stupid rules and stupid BULLSHIT. There's major difference between you and me. You still love and have root in communist china! I can't be a sell out, never like you chinks.
I'm British and I'm proud, Yes my Government sucks, at lease we can tell him face to face without risking life and limb.
that's it.
the ONLY difference between commu gov & capital gov is such that capital gov claim they're kicking ass while commus not.
Stupid propoganda video. Remember the accident took place after the enforce martial law had been issued!! The citizen should leave public place especially the square not keeping occupying the place. Is there anybody think he can go around anywhere whithout authority under the state of seige? The video just picked up what the author want you see and believe, not the truth!!
I was too young at the time and was in eye treatment and wasn't allowed to watch TV, this video only reminds me how poor China was at the time. It's understandable students and other citizens launched this whole thing.
Correction: I was agreeing with another poster(who said this video and song was a twisted propaganda). Not saying that this song is well said. The lyrics and melody are funny though.
As I'v said, I understand and appreciate June 4th passion, but no nation is rescued by passion.
Well, to each his own, but there are plenty of Chinese people I like and admire, and I can't see how anyone can see racism as anything but superstition.
I'm British Chinese. can't stand the chinese people, period. All two faced, not just the government. So, as far as I'm concerned, it there's 1,000 flatten chinese guys and 10,000 flatten, what's the difference? They should of kept the tanks rolling - Just my opinion.
democracy also violate human rights, for example, US using camps for Jap-US citizens during WWII, US using torture in Vietnam war, and Gaudamal bay (sorry about spelling), and God knows how many more cases utilized by US to gain influence in the rest of the world...point is, all govn't violate human rights in some way, this is just another propaganda video
THANK goodness for your posts ChinaWalll65! I'd like to add that Kent State was just one of the several sites where the US government called in troops to fire on the students.
wow, research a little bit about 1989 massacre...the citizens shut down the square and the city and resisted police and military authorities, the only option left for the govn't is to use force...btw many soldiers were killed by students, it was bloody, APCs and trucks of the military were set on fire by students, which would be an act of terrorism, this would somewhat justify the action by the govn't to some extreme...
those students r part of citizens, they r unarmed. since the soldiers kill all of them, they r recognize as a terrorists. because the definition of terrorism is when a group of people or individual kill lots of innocents on purpose. even though i am chinese, i dun like the government but it doesn't mean i dun like china. because of this reason, all the countries have signed a contract to stop military trade with china
i am being neutral in here, even i am chinese. the fact is there are no soldiers died in there. Also, the soldiers r using real guns to kill the students. After that, they burn the bodies, that's y u see the fire going on. Another fact: the army from local areas didn't go there, cuz they know what's going on. those army r from far east or west, which means they think the students r rebels. so they kill them.
No, sweetheart. FOTFLMAO. Is your government your god? It would seem that way if you insist it can do no wrong. You are going down the same road that led the West to disaster. Hope you wake up first, because China is a GREAT civilazation with so much to offer to the world.
no..haha..Actually the government is like a big bully..similar to the American government. Don't you agree? But our government is not two-faced. I know that China has a lot of potential, and they are on the road to great things. They are just thinking strategically to protect China.
Yes, I agree... my own government is on the road to defining dissent as treason. Bush probably believes he is also thinking strategically to "protect" the USA.. what a tragic mistake! In fact, dissent is part of the evolution of any viable culture. Without dissent, all you have is cultural inbreeding. Evelynlo96, I really like you. You are intelligent and sincere and I am very glad we got to dialogue.
Saying China was never ruled by Britain is either a semantic quibble or just contrary to fact. I do not think that people who disagree with me are necessarily ignorant or biased, but I do think that -- as both Marx and Mao put it -- nationalism is a disease that divides people who ought to be cooperating for their common good. You know, I do think that China is a great civilization, but great civilizations often commit great wrong. That certainly applies to my own nation as well. Peace, brother.
"You are entitled to your thoughts, and I am entitled to mine." - freedom of speech and expression, it's called. But people in china still don't have this. ROFL.
unfortunately, your thoughts have no weight to anyone but yourself...if you choose to be so ignorant as to overlook China because of differences, then there will be no venue for progress.
The song is hugely biased towards what western media "claimed" happened on that day. Also soldiers also died that day, in clashes with the students, there were instances where the students got out of hand and lit tanks and truks on fire with molatovs, but no one morns the soldiers who protected the stability of our great country and not let our country go into chaos. the point is, WESTERNERS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT CHINA, AND WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR COUNTRY. So stay out of our domestic affairs!!
In the words of Pascal, "You cannot free a fool from the chains he reveres." I love my country too, but that means I do not turn a blind eye to its misdeeds. By the way, while you are still in Tibet, you have no business telling anyone to stay out of YOUR internal affairs. (Go ahead, and tell me that Tibet is a Chinese provence, just as the British used to say that China was British.)
See that is a biased comment on your part, since you think people who do not share your way of thinking is naturally a fool or is blinded by something, but u can not accept that fact that they came to that conclusion by their own admission. And china was never a British province, China is the longest lasting empire in the world when all other empires collapsed, it could never be colonized by anyone like say, india, since chinese people are united,
Tibet belongs to China..anyone who says otherwise is only thinking strategically...so any moral emphasis you are trying to place is bullshit. btw - No one claims that British people are the smartest people on the planet.
HA HA HA HA HA... honey, I am about as far from a "typical" American as one can get without ending up in Gitmo. As for "other people's business," those who do not practice what they preach are rarely taken seriously.
Tibet is our business...or at least far more a business to us than it is to Americans. American's nowadays are not taken seriously, for the same reason you posted above.
What are you talking about...whether you are typical or not doesn't mean you are not "American," and the fact that dpm is posting on an internet discussion (which, incidentally, is for all to view & share) is not a sign of hypocrisy.
I think you are a sad individual with no identity. You are a Chinese person living in Britain and yet you bash both countries...and you secretly want to be Japanese. LOL.
Indeed fuck china! with your stupid rules and stupid BULLSHIT. There's major difference between you and me. You still love and have root in communist china! I can't be a sell out, never like you chinks.
I'm British and I'm proud, Yes my Government sucks, at lease we can tell him face to face without risking life and limb.
My hatred is mainly due to your government not the people. The people can't help been trapped. They can't been held semi-captive either - kinda pity them.
You provide no logic for your intense hate...if we are arguing about this, could we at least use reason and try to understand each other rather than trying to put down each other?
give China back to us! push down the evil government
DesperadoLQ 3 months ago
only stupid jerks would remember those fucking stupid things~
colinhuang930124 6 months ago
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all people is not equal under the communism china,most of people is so poor,but major communist has so many privilege,car house food etc etc,,,,,,major communist in china just want to keep those privilege,so that why they killed historical amount of their citizen,its typical characteristic of communism,communist kill their against people without any permission necessary,china is perfectly lawless zone,chinese communist party killed historical amount of people for keep major communist`s privilege
77777XYZ 6 months ago
never forgotten.
BaopingHui 7 months ago
不知道有生之年会不会看到人民英雄纪念碑上的某个浮雕换成这个事件的。
Tofu1998 1 year ago
二十年前血液里奔腾的鲜红,于今或许还有?
kongliliushuang 1 year ago
In china,history is a bxxch every can fuck,many people want to protect the truth,but no one can do that.Nobody can help china,why?Why is god unfair?Why do god always hurt Chinese people?
zhangzheng1976 1 year ago
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zhangzheng1976 1 year ago
We should remember them forever!
GreatSunCN 1 year ago
i am trying to play this song, who can help me with the tab?
rollbin 1 year ago
Rest in peace for those who fell. I trust nobody died in vain - for China is changing. They died with great purpose. It's sad that so much death was needed...
wiccanshadows1 2 years ago
communist doesn't care lives, that's true. even they support darfur, north korea, zimbabwe and burma governments. That's bullshit asshole!
hlwanmoe1981 3 years ago
hey how couldn you forget Lao And VIet Nam. we are poor people too.
dangvien9x 2 years ago
We all should leave square before the deadline. 19 years after, I finally realized we did it in a wrong way, it hurt our family and China. What's more, it is abused by the West. It made CNN, BBC orgasm all those years.
After that, China made a very positive change, became quite open-minded, we all benefit from that. Freedom of mind is the freedom of the all.
May all those died lay in peace, go to heaven, or reincarnate into a good family. May God bless China keep on the right direction
mia2099 3 years ago
Forgive, move on, and love again. We are family.
I love peace. I love China.
mia2099 3 years ago 2
We all should leave square before the deadline. 19 years after, I finally realized we did it in a wrong way, it hurt our family and China. What's more, it is abused by the West. It made CNN, BBC orgasm all those years.
After that, China made a very positive change, became quite open-minded, we all benefit from that. Freedom of mind is the freedom of the all.
May all those died lay in peace, go to heaven, or reincarnate into a good family. May God bless China keeping on the right direction.
mia2099 3 years ago
R.I.P chinese fellows
XxMadeInChinaxX 3 years ago
That's a small glimpse of the truth, whether you believe it or not.
greatestyang 3 years ago
It's an event that spanned almost 2 months. Both the students and government made many attempts to negotiated an agreement but failed. Finally on June 4th, government ordered military to open fire on those who do not leave the square. Most casualties actually resulted from Beijing locals who tried to stop the army, not the students. When the army reached the square, they stopped and ask the students to go home. Students finally decided to stop the protest and went home.
greatestyang 3 years ago
What happened? Must I repeat? Chine used T-62 tanks to crash students.
Are they human?
iijyyy 4 years ago
No they used 59 Tanks
Tanaway04 4 years ago
if you understand Mandarin there's a very comprehensive documentary on youtube. Most people posting here don't even understand what happened. This song is far from truth, but i do like the tone tho.
greatestyang 3 years ago
if you understand Cantonese, you will find more truth than what the Chinese communist government told you.
wewewowo 2 years ago 2
Great! Chinese Communism is also Chinese Terrorism.
6000 students fell!
iijyyy 4 years ago
If you don't know what happened, don't bullshit, thank you.
greatestyang 4 years ago
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The students were mostly used by higher ups in their battle for power. There's no need to go into details, but these students were unnecessary sacrifice.
it's not as simple as "Communist Party vs the people".
一将功成万骨枯
greatestyang 4 years ago
Phillip Morgan, what a genius at song writing, if only for this song.
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago 6
we should know the truth-not just the cruel image.who support this move? who should be responsible for the crash?look at the documentary
paktarn 4 years ago
China was weak at the time so they did not know what to do. unfortantly this happened
CaptainCool07 4 years ago
Good clips this is history
CaptainCool07 4 years ago 2
I'm proud of these heors. Our Chinese fought so bravely for freedom and liberty agains the Chinese facist ruling and slavery.....
fukcCCP 4 years ago 3
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if chinese government fall then China will break in 10 pieces.
everyone that loves China must support current government
japanesexxx 4 years ago
Before the evil communist regime, Chinese people inlived a better life. After the communist devel stepped into power, only Chinese people in HongKong and Taiwan have decent life.
fukcCCP 4 years ago 2
Before the communist regime the country was deep in a serious chaos. I don't want to support the totalitarian regime, I just want to say that during the imperial era Chinese people never had such a high level of living standart as they have now.
tyvoletykravo 4 years ago
It's a shame to compare present to ancient times!!!
fukcCCP 4 years ago
So everyone who loves China has to forget about the history and about all the injustice inside the Chinese political system? Those who loves his country should be capable of criticizing it's leaders and not just support them as a blind sheep.
tyvoletykravo 4 years ago 14
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I firmly support the crush! Now China is developping fast thanks to the communist party!
PhilipLeng 4 years ago
with "break china into smaller states", do you mean give back to Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner mongolia and so on , the freedom these people are worthy to have??
calogeroaiello 4 years ago 2
Wow! With your political views, you could get elected as a California Congressman, or Senator.
dbviewer5 4 years ago
When I was in middle i was the uni student starts to attack army, the army was commanded not fighting back, but after many days, atacking by students, they leave to no choice, so i believe, no matter what happened, i trust my government, i trust my country.
bfe130 4 years ago
You are a moron.
jypfu 4 years ago
dude you freaking moron
SVNSonic 2 years ago
lol
yajichu 4 years ago
走吧,没人拦你,更没人让你留什么血,自己什么都不懂还自以为能代表一代人,其实你走到哪都不会有什么出息
abbytotoro 4 years ago
kill soldiers,burn vehicles,that is not democracy,but terrorism.some student controled by CIA & taiwan intelligence agency,they just tools.
lxymarine 4 years ago
lol,you even know what really happened?
yajichu 4 years ago
nwpuboshi,是的,他们活该,所以现在的大学生再也不会站起来为中国说话了!
我就是现在的一个在校大学生,小时侯不明白为什么有钱人往国外跑,为什么大学生往国外跑,现在我明白了,以后我也会走,走得远远的。我们这一代人再也不会为中国流一滴血!
zhangzhou 4 years ago
走吧,没人拦你,更没人让你留什么血,自己什么都不懂还自以为能代表一代人,其实你走到哪都不会有什么出息
abbytotoro 4 years ago
不了解真相的人不要乱说
不了解真相的人不要乱说
我了解事实
所以我只能说
他们活该
他们活该
nwpuboshi 4 years ago
so show us the real china. im interested.
edokyo 4 years ago
他们是为了中国,但是你们不是.........
g285569039 4 years ago
你们带着有色眼镜看中国,始终看不到现在真实的中国!!!
you can not see the real china!!!
wei12008 4 years ago
to wei12008
是誰看不到真正的中國?﹗
是當權者要蒙蔽中國人的眼睛﹗
是當權者要中國人戴著「眼罩」看世界﹗
Brouis 4 years ago 2
我们是为了中国,但是你们不是.........
g285569039 4 years ago
We will see in the steert of 6.4 & 7.1, we don`t forget 6.4 china student!
We song of freedom!!!
andrewwong 4 years ago 2
wow the tone is perfect. Anybody knows who the singer is?
kimixie001 4 years ago
thats sad =(
goaliekid1 4 years ago 2
i think we should be more rational to express our voices,i think the democracy is a good thing, but not for the china at that time,we should do things step by step.there is an old chiese saying:more haste,less speed.
lynus2007 4 years ago
keeping China in a stable situation is very important, which is good to everybody. Democracy is really good thing to every country. Democracy would elimilate corruption. China must take advantage of democracy serioudly.
dragonzhuo1329 4 years ago
Rest in peace all that have fallen there
yoshiosakakida 4 years ago 2
Wow Good
dongnan88 4 years ago
/+.+ to all heros, RIP
crxmugen 5 years ago
I think it's interesting that after all this time since 89, this event still sparks passion. I think it's simply human nature to live in fredom.
jbinarao 5 years ago
My God, you have never lived in a communist counry, how can people who have never seen each other argue between themselves about matters not familiar to them.
ioanabanner 5 years ago
Not particularly Tibet either, any incident like the Tiananmen Square Massacre, the Darfur Fighting, the Massare at Amritsar, the invasion of Tibet, tortures of prisoners at Guantanimo Bay, wrongful abuses of human rights...
BruceLeroy16 5 years ago
Eh......what am I supposed to say after 49 comments of pointless e-arguments? How about "If any of you are so worried about freeing Tibet...stop logging onto Youtube every day and start doing something?"
BruceLeroy16 5 years ago
YOU PPL SHOULD STOP ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER. this song and vid is a message to all showing the bravery of namy inncent civiallians killed by their own military for standing up for wat they beleive. the least we can do is show them some respect and promise that their cause will never be forgetten.
IsamashiiX 5 years ago
free north ireland!
free wales!
free highlands!
how do u like it UltraNEO?
celeron338 5 years ago
Indeed fuck china! with your stupid rules and stupid BULLSHIT. There's major difference between you and me. You still love and have root in communist china! I can't be a sell out, never like you chinks.
I'm British and I'm proud, Yes my Government sucks, at lease we can tell him face to face without risking life and limb.
that's it.
the ONLY difference between commu gov & capital gov is such that capital gov claim they're kicking ass while commus not.
celeron338 5 years ago
Fuck you, you sound more Ameriwank than British.
gogonut15 5 years ago
yeah,you retard,Tony endeavours to wank George!
celeron338 5 years ago
oops, I find some typo and grammer errors in my comment. Please forgive my poor english.
alfaromeo2006 5 years ago
Fuck your spelling and fuck your communist loving bullshit.
gogonut15 5 years ago
Long live communism! :D
breaks0 5 years ago
you must have no shame, or you are just too young to understand how inappropriate you rremark is; I hope someday you do.
squedge55 4 years ago
Just checked you profile..33 yrs old...I hope you are lying.
squedge55 4 years ago
Stupid propoganda video. Remember the accident took place after the enforce martial law had been issued!! The citizen should leave public place especially the square not keeping occupying the place. Is there anybody think he can go around anywhere whithout authority under the state of seige? The video just picked up what the author want you see and believe, not the truth!!
alfaromeo2006 5 years ago
Well said. Good to see that wise people do exist.
I was too young at the time and was in eye treatment and wasn't allowed to watch TV, this video only reminds me how poor China was at the time. It's understandable students and other citizens launched this whole thing.
22omg22 4 years ago
Correction: I was agreeing with another poster(who said this video and song was a twisted propaganda). Not saying that this song is well said. The lyrics and melody are funny though.
As I'v said, I understand and appreciate June 4th passion, but no nation is rescued by passion.
22omg22 4 years ago
Doh! typing in the dark doesn't work.. LOL
UltraNEO 5 years ago
Well, to each his own, but there are plenty of Chinese people I like and admire, and I can't see how anyone can see racism as anything but superstition.
dpm 5 years ago
I'm British Chinese. can't stand the chinese people, period. All two faced, not just the government. So, as far as I'm concerned, it there's 1,000 flatten chinese guys and 10,000 flatten, what's the difference? They should of kept the tanks rolling - Just my opinion.
UltraNEO 5 years ago
ur a sell out, same difference, bitch.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
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and you call yourself Chinese? dye your skin and just call yourself British, China don't need trash like you.
greatestyang 4 years ago
Never Forget, Never Forgive...
kris5857 5 years ago
that is why the cycle never ends.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
Wow this is really sad
DestroyerX61 5 years ago
damn I pity these people, almost made me cry
disturbed101 5 years ago
democracy also violate human rights, for example, US using camps for Jap-US citizens during WWII, US using torture in Vietnam war, and Gaudamal bay (sorry about spelling), and God knows how many more cases utilized by US to gain influence in the rest of the world...point is, all govn't violate human rights in some way, this is just another propaganda video
ChinaWall65 5 years ago
THANK goodness for your posts ChinaWalll65! I'd like to add that Kent State was just one of the several sites where the US government called in troops to fire on the students.
ithicarose 5 years ago
wow, research a little bit about 1989 massacre...the citizens shut down the square and the city and resisted police and military authorities, the only option left for the govn't is to use force...btw many soldiers were killed by students, it was bloody, APCs and trucks of the military were set on fire by students, which would be an act of terrorism, this would somewhat justify the action by the govn't to some extreme...
ChinaWall65 5 years ago
those students r part of citizens, they r unarmed. since the soldiers kill all of them, they r recognize as a terrorists. because the definition of terrorism is when a group of people or individual kill lots of innocents on purpose. even though i am chinese, i dun like the government but it doesn't mean i dun like china. because of this reason, all the countries have signed a contract to stop military trade with china
DEathGodXXX 5 years ago
i am being neutral in here, even i am chinese. the fact is there are no soldiers died in there. Also, the soldiers r using real guns to kill the students. After that, they burn the bodies, that's y u see the fire going on. Another fact: the army from local areas didn't go there, cuz they know what's going on. those army r from far east or west, which means they think the students r rebels. so they kill them.
DEathGodXXX 5 years ago
The ground must be shaking in Highgate cemetary as Marx turns over in his grave. Ummm... you HAVE heard of Marx, right?
dpm 5 years ago
Yes, Karl Marx, blah blah blah. Is he your God? LMFAO.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
No, sweetheart. FOTFLMAO. Is your government your god? It would seem that way if you insist it can do no wrong. You are going down the same road that led the West to disaster. Hope you wake up first, because China is a GREAT civilazation with so much to offer to the world.
dpm 5 years ago
no..haha..Actually the government is like a big bully..similar to the American government. Don't you agree? But our government is not two-faced. I know that China has a lot of potential, and they are on the road to great things. They are just thinking strategically to protect China.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
Yes, I agree... my own government is on the road to defining dissent as treason. Bush probably believes he is also thinking strategically to "protect" the USA.. what a tragic mistake! In fact, dissent is part of the evolution of any viable culture. Without dissent, all you have is cultural inbreeding. Evelynlo96, I really like you. You are intelligent and sincere and I am very glad we got to dialogue.
dpm 5 years ago
Saying China was never ruled by Britain is either a semantic quibble or just contrary to fact. I do not think that people who disagree with me are necessarily ignorant or biased, but I do think that -- as both Marx and Mao put it -- nationalism is a disease that divides people who ought to be cooperating for their common good. You know, I do think that China is a great civilization, but great civilizations often commit great wrong. That certainly applies to my own nation as well. Peace, brother.
dpm 5 years ago
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
Did anyone ever tell you that you're beautiful when you're angry?
dpm 5 years ago
Nope. You are the first.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
I admire your passion, even if I find it misdirected. You are entitled to your thoughts, and I am entitled to mine.
dpm 5 years ago
"You are entitled to your thoughts, and I am entitled to mine." - freedom of speech and expression, it's called. But people in china still don't have this. ROFL.
Yeah.. so my thoughts would be to fuck china.
UltraNEO 5 years ago
fuck your mother.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
unfortunately, your thoughts have no weight to anyone but yourself...if you choose to be so ignorant as to overlook China because of differences, then there will be no venue for progress.
ithicarose 5 years ago
"Don't let the door hit you on your way out."
ROFL.
UltraNEO 5 years ago
The song is hugely biased towards what western media "claimed" happened on that day. Also soldiers also died that day, in clashes with the students, there were instances where the students got out of hand and lit tanks and truks on fire with molatovs, but no one morns the soldiers who protected the stability of our great country and not let our country go into chaos. the point is, WESTERNERS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT CHINA, AND WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR COUNTRY. So stay out of our domestic affairs!!
LoveForChinaForava 5 years ago
In the words of Pascal, "You cannot free a fool from the chains he reveres." I love my country too, but that means I do not turn a blind eye to its misdeeds. By the way, while you are still in Tibet, you have no business telling anyone to stay out of YOUR internal affairs. (Go ahead, and tell me that Tibet is a Chinese provence, just as the British used to say that China was British.)
dpm 5 years ago
See that is a biased comment on your part, since you think people who do not share your way of thinking is naturally a fool or is blinded by something, but u can not accept that fact that they came to that conclusion by their own admission. And china was never a British province, China is the longest lasting empire in the world when all other empires collapsed, it could never be colonized by anyone like say, india, since chinese people are united,
LoveForChinaForava 5 years ago
Tibet belongs to China..anyone who says otherwise is only thinking strategically...so any moral emphasis you are trying to place is bullshit. btw - No one claims that British people are the smartest people on the planet.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
This level of response proves my case better than I could do myself.
dpm 5 years ago
Americans like to stick their nose into other people's business. You are a classic example of a typical American. Don't you people learn???
evelynlo96 5 years ago
HA HA HA HA HA... honey, I am about as far from a "typical" American as one can get without ending up in Gitmo. As for "other people's business," those who do not practice what they preach are rarely taken seriously.
dpm 5 years ago
Tibet is our business...or at least far more a business to us than it is to Americans. American's nowadays are not taken seriously, for the same reason you posted above.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
What are you talking about...whether you are typical or not doesn't mean you are not "American," and the fact that dpm is posting on an internet discussion (which, incidentally, is for all to view & share) is not a sign of hypocrisy.
ithicarose 5 years ago
Free Tibet!!
Free Mongolia.
China has no fucking business in though countries. They're just as bad as the fucking British - pissing in other people's gardens.
UltraNEO 5 years ago
I think you are a sad individual with no identity. You are a Chinese person living in Britain and yet you bash both countries...and you secretly want to be Japanese. LOL.
evelynlo96 5 years ago
Indeed fuck china! with your stupid rules and stupid BULLSHIT. There's major difference between you and me. You still love and have root in communist china! I can't be a sell out, never like you chinks.
I'm British and I'm proud, Yes my Government sucks, at lease we can tell him face to face without risking life and limb.
UltraNEO 5 years ago
My hatred is mainly due to your government not the people. The people can't help been trapped. They can't been held semi-captive either - kinda pity them.
UltraNEO 5 years ago
You provide no logic for your intense hate...if we are arguing about this, could we at least use reason and try to understand each other rather than trying to put down each other?
ithicarose 5 years ago
You don't know the truth!
I'am Chinese. I love my country!
cchumking 4 years ago
if you love china, you cannot accept this govenment
calogeroaiello 4 years ago 4
Mongolia is already an independent country. Free Tibet? Why? Tibet was a part of China since the Qing dynasty; I think I mentioned this before.
ygstar 5 years ago
Tibet has been a part of China since the Qing dynasty. Check your references and get your facts straight.
ygstar 5 years ago
care to share?
alyce 5 years ago
This song is great! There should be a chinese version of it.
jayCoool 6 years ago
... Well, you really think so, huh... Forget it then, this song is only for Americans, not Chinese.
Guess why?
Event in 89 is not that simple.At least not as simple as this song claimed.
miis 5 years ago
I Like this Song
Ashica 6 years ago