This reminds me of the Holy Farther's visit to Britain in 2010. Whilst awaiting His arrival the reporter, with no small ammount of glee, pointed out that only a handfull of people had turned out to greet him, and that that was most likely out of morbid fascination. Within minutes the streets were jam-packed and the look on her face was priceless. Humble pie was eaten in large quantities. Will never forget that visit, and although I did not get to see his Holiness I was glued to the t.v. PxB
I am so angry watching this.. very angry !!! I wish I knew you where in Madrid!! I would have done anything to see you father *tears* :'( YOU'RE GREAT AND I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND YOUR COMMENTS.. Thanks for enriching my faith so much! I wish I can meet you someday in the Middle East... God bless you, you're always in my prayers !
As a Traditional Catholic, I believe that this is only empty triumphalism, that won't translate in anything significative. The vocations keep going down in red numbers. Most of these youngsters just want to travel and party. I saw a very immodest clad girls, not very edifying.
@qvoprimum I respectfully disagree. Having experienced WYD, I know that it's unfair to suggest that "most" WYD participants "just want to travel and party." Yes, a small percentage come for the fun. However, that is not the majority. No - otherwise, the confessionals, Adoration chapels, and catechesis sessions would be empty.
Also realize that many of today's youth haven't had parents to teach them modest dress, catechesis, etc. WYD acts for many as a first step into a more serious faith life.
@qvoprimum - let's not be negative. Yes, more vocations are needed, but the Chruch has to start its great "turnaround" with the future - let's support these young, "prepared to give-it-a-go Catholics" and we will play our own tiny part, in helping the Church enjoy a brighter future. It's not about us, it's about Christ and ensuring His voice continues to heard in the years to come. WYD is a great place to start!
Very nicely put. It is unfortunate that "secular" organizations more often than not act like athiest organizations. The value of secularism should be for peaceful coexistence between faiths and the right to choose a belief system without unfair pressure. I would argue such subtle depictions are unfair pressure when they characterize religion as blanketly ant-science and anti-gay. Athiesm and agnosticism are in theirselves a belief system, not a secular system.
I was there and it was pretty awesome. The Church always has the most peaceful gatherings of any organization and yet the news does not show it because everyone wants to see violence and the like.
Brilliant commentary on the whole situation---Well said, sir!
I wouldn't be surprised if many of the so-called "violent protests" were staged by the same news media covering them, for the very reasons Father Barron has so cogently pointed out.
If there ever was a Christian warrior, Father Barron is one, and he's right out there on the front line. We are lucky to have people like him at this time in our history, and I say that honestly as a Protestant.
While I'm not Catholic, it is wonderful seeing so many young people rejoicing in Christ. "...we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins."
I was looking for you!! I wanted you to go to see the Neocatechumenal Communities meet the day after. Over 2000 boys and girls stood up for a religious life!!!!!!
What an incredible experience that must have been. I was able to catch some of the coverage on EWTN. It wasn't covered well by the mainstream media because they hate Christianity and if it's not a church scandal they don't care.
@Harbaugh87 I wouldn't say it's because they "hate Christianity". Whatever flaws the news media has, hating Christianity isn't one of them. It would be more accurate to say that the media prefers to report negative news because it is considered more interesting. DJDizzy113 put it well: the news media looks for conflict. Even that's not really an absolute, just a tendency.
@Naturalhit Yes, it is clear the media has an agenda.To say that it is just that the media wants to report conflict is incredibly naive. Fr. Barron is correct. Imagine the coverage if 1.5 million youth gathered to celebrate the media's agenda? Media-with the interests behind it-has the arrogance not to report reality but to attempt to create reality. We must stay very awake and observe for ourselves.Thank God we had Fr. Barron on the ground in Madrid to tell us what was happening.
@Blaseboniface Could you specify what agenda the media in general seems to have? And I said that reporting conflict wasn't an absolute. Naive? What do you know of the 24 hour news cycle? If there's one thing it has the tendency to do, it's put attention on what they find more interesting, like, say, a rebellion in Libya.
@stcolreplover I have no idea who you are quoting. But I have yet to meet any such individual as described. Really, those I've met who hate Christianity hate it openly and seem to have an all-embracing hate for all religions. Of course there are those who have a singular hate for Christianity. I don't think I have yet met the anti-theist who claims to have any sort of love for all religions.
@gellymatos well first of all, the quote is from gk chesterton. I'm sure you could have taken 10 seconds to figure that out yourself though. I would agree that today more and more militant new athiesm is becoming popular, but that doesn't really refer to my quote. It's about people, mainly the secular part of society, claiming religious liberty, but then shutting it out of society. ... did you even watch this video?
@stcolreplover I didn't bother looking it up because it's meaning was clear enough that I didn't find it necessary to look up the origin. I find myself wrong in doing so, but not for the reasons you may think. And I know your quote doesn't refer to new atheism (though I find it's rise to real prominence to be unlikely). My point was that the quote is worthless here. This isn't such a case. I've already stated earlier to the nature of the media. Did you ever read my posts? GK ...(continued)
@stcolreplover (continued)...GK Chesterton never did live to see modern news media. Care to search for what his original quote was refering to? I'm going start looking myself after I'm done posting. And what secular part of society is there? Don't create some generalization and remain vague. Be specific. Assuming the news media is still the subject matter, I don'e see any such action.
I'm not really sure why you're on about the specifics. That is, why can't I generalize? It's going to be hard to prove a tone or theme of the mainstream media when they are implicit. Father Barron gave an example, i'm sure if you looked deeper into news reports you could find it yourself.
@stcolreplover You can't get into specifics? If you can't name specific instances of bias and thereby show a consistent pattern of such, why say there is a bias? It isn't right too take one case, notice something wrong in the coverage, and immediately make an assumption, all while not taking into consideration past actions. The reason I first said when I started commenting on this vid that I identified a tendency in reporting was from noting how modern news cycles operated.
This is why the internet and new media are so important. The version of "reality" that the old media manufacture is so distorted that it's mostly secular fantasy. God bless you, Father.
@motomambo Yes! A film prof at my local University said something to the effect of, "The image doesn't have to be true for it to become part of each viewer's world view, reality is a construct of perception."
It's true, if you have no compass, I'm so grateful I belong to a church that does not let me to flounder meaninglessly in my sin and doubt, but shows the reason for guilt and that it doesn't have to be my forever. Fr. Baron breaks it down once again, with lols galore. God bless all priests!
Father Barron, you said, well word on fire said that you met some youths at world youth day that used an act of non-violence against the protesters. It also said that would be showing it on the blog next week but I can't seem to find it. Could you possibly point me in the right direction?
Even if the media does everything to ignore us and prefers to focus on some ignorant protestors... still 1.5 million people were there. YOUNG PEOPLE, not old 'geezers' from days of yore.
And 1.5 million young people coming together is something amazing. They might ignore us, but we'll still be here at the end of the day.
Great video, as always. I have one comment on the future of our church though. We need to leave behind some practices that are awkward an creates suspicion if we want to have any future at all. An example are the plenary indulgences. There are still special masses offered in view of this absurd doctrine. We also have to discourage intermediaries in our relationship with the Lord and revisit medieval notion of original sin that is still taught by some members of the clergy. Thanks for a great job
We have not lost the future, father. now is our chance!! the past has been biting us in the back yes, but we need to press on. Jeshua woudlnt want us giving up on spreading his word. He went through far worse then what we're dealing with now. Onword, Christian Soldiers! God Bless, father :)
The Spanish people's problem with the visit was the horrendous amount of money that went into the visit. And this was not just a minority group of young angry people but quite a lot of people. Can't say that I blame them either. Millions of Euro could have been used in so many better ways.
@Nocturnalux From what I understand this event cost the Spanish government nothing. The event was self supporting in terms of costs, in addition it pumped millions of Euros into the Spanish economy
No money was spent on the papal viasit. Arturo Fernandez, the president of Madrid’s House of Commerce said Aug. 22 that hotels, transportation services and businesses in the Spanish capital took in nearly $230 million during World Youth Day. Bet you there were not any shopkeepers or hotliers protesting, because they were benefiting.
Hello Fr. Barron, I'm a long time fan of yours, and also attended WYD Madrid, just got back two days ago in fact! And during the 10 day stay in Madrid with my parish group from Boston, I witnessed 0 riots in the city, save for a small outbreak in La Plaza de Sol. Yet not one incident occurred when a field full of 2 million exuberant, Catholic young people knelt in Adoration to the Blessed Sacrament with the Holy Father, however, the CNN crews at the field conveniently forgot to record that.
This reminds me of the Holy Farther's visit to Britain in 2010. Whilst awaiting His arrival the reporter, with no small ammount of glee, pointed out that only a handfull of people had turned out to greet him, and that that was most likely out of morbid fascination. Within minutes the streets were jam-packed and the look on her face was priceless. Humble pie was eaten in large quantities. Will never forget that visit, and although I did not get to see his Holiness I was glued to the t.v. PxB
mZaoa 1 month ago
I am so angry watching this.. very angry !!! I wish I knew you where in Madrid!! I would have done anything to see you father *tears* :'( YOU'RE GREAT AND I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND YOUR COMMENTS.. Thanks for enriching my faith so much! I wish I can meet you someday in the Middle East... God bless you, you're always in my prayers !
bobboulos 4 months ago
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bobboulos 4 months ago
The Media are fruitflies. They swarm around anything that looks rotten.
adamdanielman 5 months ago
As a Traditional Catholic, I believe that this is only empty triumphalism, that won't translate in anything significative. The vocations keep going down in red numbers. Most of these youngsters just want to travel and party. I saw a very immodest clad girls, not very edifying.
qvoprimum 6 months ago
@qvoprimum I respectfully disagree. Having experienced WYD, I know that it's unfair to suggest that "most" WYD participants "just want to travel and party." Yes, a small percentage come for the fun. However, that is not the majority. No - otherwise, the confessionals, Adoration chapels, and catechesis sessions would be empty.
Also realize that many of today's youth haven't had parents to teach them modest dress, catechesis, etc. WYD acts for many as a first step into a more serious faith life.
warriorangela 6 months ago
@qvoprimum - let's not be negative. Yes, more vocations are needed, but the Chruch has to start its great "turnaround" with the future - let's support these young, "prepared to give-it-a-go Catholics" and we will play our own tiny part, in helping the Church enjoy a brighter future. It's not about us, it's about Christ and ensuring His voice continues to heard in the years to come. WYD is a great place to start!
mmmail1969 5 months ago
Although I would concede that some of the media do that unintentionally (or I hope so), Father Barron is spot on something, as usual.
darkgrb 6 months ago
let's promote this message!
narciazyk 6 months ago
Very nicely put. It is unfortunate that "secular" organizations more often than not act like athiest organizations. The value of secularism should be for peaceful coexistence between faiths and the right to choose a belief system without unfair pressure. I would argue such subtle depictions are unfair pressure when they characterize religion as blanketly ant-science and anti-gay. Athiesm and agnosticism are in theirselves a belief system, not a secular system.
CatandMaster 6 months ago
Amen !
kpetals 6 months ago
The media does this with every Catholic/moral issue, abortion, gay marriage, etc.. They will have to answer for their actions.
icimblind 6 months ago
I was there and it was pretty awesome. The Church always has the most peaceful gatherings of any organization and yet the news does not show it because everyone wants to see violence and the like.
eatitjusteatit 6 months ago 2
Brilliant commentary on the whole situation---Well said, sir!
I wouldn't be surprised if many of the so-called "violent protests" were staged by the same news media covering them, for the very reasons Father Barron has so cogently pointed out.
If there ever was a Christian warrior, Father Barron is one, and he's right out there on the front line. We are lucky to have people like him at this time in our history, and I say that honestly as a Protestant.
TibbieT 6 months ago 18
@TibbieT God bless you!
wordonfirevideo 6 months ago 7
Keep up the great work. Many blessings to you
TheFaithHunter 6 months ago 2
OMG Im in the video!!! =]
ricemice11 6 months ago
This is so true!
kaminskikaty 6 months ago
I sometimes think we should make the most of the internet while we have it. We may not always have access to the internet.
2958456739 6 months ago 2
While I'm not Catholic, it is wonderful seeing so many young people rejoicing in Christ. "...we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins."
mdleavitt2112 6 months ago
Anyone who visits Spain needs to goto the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona. I highly recommend it.
zztstenglish 6 months ago
I was looking for you!! I wanted you to go to see the Neocatechumenal Communities meet the day after. Over 2000 boys and girls stood up for a religious life!!!!!!
242am 6 months ago
Journalists in mainstream media look for conflict . For once, though, this doesn't make the story they were looking for newsworthy.
DJDizzy113 6 months ago
What an incredible experience that must have been. I was able to catch some of the coverage on EWTN. It wasn't covered well by the mainstream media because they hate Christianity and if it's not a church scandal they don't care.
Harbaugh87 6 months ago 3
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Nemesis000000 6 months ago
@Harbaugh87 I wouldn't say it's because they "hate Christianity". Whatever flaws the news media has, hating Christianity isn't one of them. It would be more accurate to say that the media prefers to report negative news because it is considered more interesting. DJDizzy113 put it well: the news media looks for conflict. Even that's not really an absolute, just a tendency.
gellymatos 6 months ago
@gellymatos Media also have an agenda.
Naturalhit 6 months ago
@Naturalhit Yes, it is clear the media has an agenda.To say that it is just that the media wants to report conflict is incredibly naive. Fr. Barron is correct. Imagine the coverage if 1.5 million youth gathered to celebrate the media's agenda? Media-with the interests behind it-has the arrogance not to report reality but to attempt to create reality. We must stay very awake and observe for ourselves.Thank God we had Fr. Barron on the ground in Madrid to tell us what was happening.
Blaseboniface 6 months ago
@Blaseboniface Could you specify what agenda the media in general seems to have? And I said that reporting conflict wasn't an absolute. Naive? What do you know of the 24 hour news cycle? If there's one thing it has the tendency to do, it's put attention on what they find more interesting, like, say, a rebellion in Libya.
gellymatos 6 months ago
@Naturalhit Care to be more specific? Especially since your seem to be referring to media in general.
gellymatos 6 months ago
"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions"
stcolreplover 6 months ago
@stcolreplover I have no idea who you are quoting. But I have yet to meet any such individual as described. Really, those I've met who hate Christianity hate it openly and seem to have an all-embracing hate for all religions. Of course there are those who have a singular hate for Christianity. I don't think I have yet met the anti-theist who claims to have any sort of love for all religions.
gellymatos 6 months ago
@gellymatos well first of all, the quote is from gk chesterton. I'm sure you could have taken 10 seconds to figure that out yourself though. I would agree that today more and more militant new athiesm is becoming popular, but that doesn't really refer to my quote. It's about people, mainly the secular part of society, claiming religious liberty, but then shutting it out of society. ... did you even watch this video?
stcolreplover 6 months ago
@stcolreplover I didn't bother looking it up because it's meaning was clear enough that I didn't find it necessary to look up the origin. I find myself wrong in doing so, but not for the reasons you may think. And I know your quote doesn't refer to new atheism (though I find it's rise to real prominence to be unlikely). My point was that the quote is worthless here. This isn't such a case. I've already stated earlier to the nature of the media. Did you ever read my posts? GK ...(continued)
gellymatos 6 months ago
@stcolreplover (continued)...GK Chesterton never did live to see modern news media. Care to search for what his original quote was refering to? I'm going start looking myself after I'm done posting. And what secular part of society is there? Don't create some generalization and remain vague. Be specific. Assuming the news media is still the subject matter, I don'e see any such action.
gellymatos 6 months ago
I'm not really sure why you're on about the specifics. That is, why can't I generalize? It's going to be hard to prove a tone or theme of the mainstream media when they are implicit. Father Barron gave an example, i'm sure if you looked deeper into news reports you could find it yourself.
stcolreplover 6 months ago
@stcolreplover You can't get into specifics? If you can't name specific instances of bias and thereby show a consistent pattern of such, why say there is a bias? It isn't right too take one case, notice something wrong in the coverage, and immediately make an assumption, all while not taking into consideration past actions. The reason I first said when I started commenting on this vid that I identified a tendency in reporting was from noting how modern news cycles operated.
gellymatos 6 months ago
This is why the internet and new media are so important. The version of "reality" that the old media manufacture is so distorted that it's mostly secular fantasy. God bless you, Father.
motomambo 6 months ago 19
@motomambo Yes! A film prof at my local University said something to the effect of, "The image doesn't have to be true for it to become part of each viewer's world view, reality is a construct of perception."
It's true, if you have no compass, I'm so grateful I belong to a church that does not let me to flounder meaninglessly in my sin and doubt, but shows the reason for guilt and that it doesn't have to be my forever. Fr. Baron breaks it down once again, with lols galore. God bless all priests!
adorima 4 months ago
Father Barron, you said, well word on fire said that you met some youths at world youth day that used an act of non-violence against the protesters. It also said that would be showing it on the blog next week but I can't seem to find it. Could you possibly point me in the right direction?
stcolreplover 6 months ago
Even if the media does everything to ignore us and prefers to focus on some ignorant protestors... still 1.5 million people were there. YOUNG PEOPLE, not old 'geezers' from days of yore.
And 1.5 million young people coming together is something amazing. They might ignore us, but we'll still be here at the end of the day.
Entropy3ko 6 months ago 2
I wish I was there!
Entropy3ko 6 months ago 12
@Entropy3ko me 2 , maybe 2013
newtochrist 6 months ago
I was there AND I got to meet you. Thank you for your videos and your ministry father. From New Zealand
TheHardout2005 6 months ago 3
Shop keepers, restaurant owners, hotel owners etc. Didn't see them protesting!
Rben20 6 months ago 4
Great video, as always. I have one comment on the future of our church though. We need to leave behind some practices that are awkward an creates suspicion if we want to have any future at all. An example are the plenary indulgences. There are still special masses offered in view of this absurd doctrine. We also have to discourage intermediaries in our relationship with the Lord and revisit medieval notion of original sin that is still taught by some members of the clergy. Thanks for a great job
dejesusluisx 6 months ago
Did you have a chance to go to the Juventem masses?
AdversusHaereses 6 months ago
We have not lost the future, father. now is our chance!! the past has been biting us in the back yes, but we need to press on. Jeshua woudlnt want us giving up on spreading his word. He went through far worse then what we're dealing with now. Onword, Christian Soldiers! God Bless, father :)
Serge165 6 months ago
The Spanish people's problem with the visit was the horrendous amount of money that went into the visit. And this was not just a minority group of young angry people but quite a lot of people. Can't say that I blame them either. Millions of Euro could have been used in so many better ways.
Nocturnalux 6 months ago
@Nocturnalux From what I understand this event cost the Spanish government nothing. The event was self supporting in terms of costs, in addition it pumped millions of Euros into the Spanish economy
shootermacgavin1 6 months ago 2
@Nocturnalux
No money was spent on the papal viasit. Arturo Fernandez, the president of Madrid’s House of Commerce said Aug. 22 that hotels, transportation services and businesses in the Spanish capital took in nearly $230 million during World Youth Day. Bet you there were not any shopkeepers or hotliers protesting, because they were benefiting.
xtrashed 6 months ago 3
@Nocturnalux
The money for WYD came from pilgrim registration fees, private donors and coporate sponsors.
xtrashed 6 months ago
Hello Fr. Barron, I'm a long time fan of yours, and also attended WYD Madrid, just got back two days ago in fact! And during the 10 day stay in Madrid with my parish group from Boston, I witnessed 0 riots in the city, save for a small outbreak in La Plaza de Sol. Yet not one incident occurred when a field full of 2 million exuberant, Catholic young people knelt in Adoration to the Blessed Sacrament with the Holy Father, however, the CNN crews at the field conveniently forgot to record that.
kevincoyne117 6 months ago 5
Fantastic commentary. A lot of sources are saying there 2 million at the prayer vigil.
xtrashed 6 months ago
Glad to see you're posting videos again Father.
KnightOwl2006 6 months ago 2