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  • Wearing a Yellow hat , cheap sunglassz n talking n a heavy voice with fancy words dnt make u smart. Come have a conversation with me and i'll prove to You that Allah is the one and only God and Muhammed PBUH is his messenger.

  • @heartlessraza I talk in my own voice. It always sounds like that. The hat and sunglasses are an affectation, whether you like them or not is hardly my concern. As for my vocabulary, if you have a problem with it you should probably take it up with my teachers. English is not my native language.

    And please, present your proof. I'll be happy to hear it. I love being proven wrong. Good luck with that.

  • @heartlessraza Allah is a fake god same as all the others.

    You've been brainwashed and are deluded, A dangerous combination.

  • (Surah Al-Qamar) 1. The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad to show them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the moon).

    2. And if they see a sign, they turn away, and say: "This is continuous magic."

    3. They belied (the Verses of Allah, this Qur'an), and followed their own lusts. And every matter will be settled …

    4. And indeed there has come to them news…

    (again 1432 yrs ago...in Q'ran!)

  • (Surah Ya-Sin) 37. And a sign for them is the night, We withdraw therefrom the day, and behold, they are in darkness.

    38. And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing.

    39. And the moon, We have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old dried curved date stalk.

    40. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit.

    (1432 years ago!!!!)

  • both reasoning is pathetic, you can bring as many small cracks in the moon surface but you cant bring other than one big circular all the way around the moon revealing its earlier division "that can be still scanned beneath the moon surface show how deep its" , yes others can predict for something happened in the future but usually it will failles to predict opposite even like from being defeated to triumph in very short period of empires ages

  • Great reasoning. thanks.

  • @TheHinduzionist So, let me just get this straight: You blame every single Muslim for the actions of those that blow themselves (and others, otherwise I doubt anyone would have a problem with it) to bits?

  • @kicknaxeIt means in surah 9 about fighting the enemy (self defence) but if one surrenders escort him to a safe place of security. you hate islam and no one can change that except yourself, but I think the reason why you hate Muslims because you don't know any talk to us find out. Ask questions why you hate us? I'm being serious man

  • @kicknaxe, [9:6] If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

  • That was such a pathetic response to the surah regarding the Romans and Persians

    try again please.

  • @Omer698 I see no need to try again unless you inform me what you think is wrong with my reasoning.

  • also search-the lowest point on land-on utube and go to vid by -justthinkonetime-

  • Apparently the Koran has stories that are even more wacky than the Bible.

  • So, god has a margin of error of 3 years? Or more? Uhm... Ah, well, all the "predictions" I have ever heard are like this. So flawed they aren't even wrong.

  • get a better camera

  • Thank u for your reply ..

  • About the prophecy about the roman empire and such.

    Even Nostradamus got something right, and so did muhammad.

    If muhammad said a hundred things that could be a realistic change og coming true then he ought to say one or two things that came true.

    Just like if i said during the height of the cold that the soviet union would collapse then some would laugh at me, but it would be logical that one of the parties would fall. It would just be a 50-50 change.

    Muhammad was just a guy.

  • @Cyberspammer2000 i heard that md said in the hadiths or his sayings that they would be defeated at the lowest point on land which i think is near the deadsea

    i could be wrong but we didnt know the lowest point on land till after 1950

  • Muslims and christians love to cherry pick the veres of their holy books and solely focus on them and take them out of context. They love doing this to people of other faiths and their holy books, but they feel offended when people do the same to them.

    Islam is clearly as full of dark age superstition as the rest of the religions. There is a whole Surah (i think its 72) which is dedicated to Jinns/Genies.... Genies!! Now that is retarded.

  • @AtheistMidget i heard that md said in the hadiths or his sayings that they would be defeated at the lowest point on earth which i think is near the deadsea.

    about djinns the muslims i know say the djinns are what we call aliens and what the pagans and illuminati call lucifer,the bible they are demons or fallen angels and in the hindu religion they call them gods.

  • @j400wel Citation needed.

  • @NeoDolph1n the verse u read has the citation

    the verse should read-the romans have been defeated in the LOWEST land not the nearest land.

    the translation u have is wrong.

  • @j400wel The translation I was reading from was the Message Translation. Khan has "nearer", Maulana has "near", Pickthal has "nearer", Rashad has "nearest", Sarwar has "nearby", Shakir has "near", Sherali has "a land nearby", and Yusuf Ali has "a land close by". So please tell me, are all of these translations simply wrong? Or could it be that whatever translation you are using is trying to prove a miracle where there is none?

  • @j400wel

    "Lowest land" is a new interpretation, just made up to claim a miracle.

    But it doesnt work even. There was no major battle in that war at the shores of the Dead Sea.

    One may argue that the loss of jerusalem was a hard loss for the Romans and that Jerusalem is roughly in that area. But Jerusalem is 600m higher than sea level and nearly 1000m higher than the Dead Sea.

  • I don't believe for a second that that guy wasn't a muslim.

  • @Libertarianist Thought the same thing myself.

  • @Libertarianist Yep, Muslim. It's a common tactic that they use. Muslims lie all the time to try and advance their agenda. It is accepted and even encouraged. Lie to the infidels.

  • @kicknaxe Care to show me some proof please?

  • @Omer698 You may have just proven it for me. You're either ignorant to your faith's teachings or you're a liar. Al-Takeyya is an Islamic principal which allows Muslims to lie if it protects or furthers Muslim agenda.

    It's also obvious to anyone that's spent some time in religious forums. You can easily pick out the Muslims. They say things like, "I'm a Christian (or Jew) BUT..." Then they go on to spout their Muslim bullshit. It's very similar to the scenario in this video.

  • @kicknaxe Answer the question, show me where it says "Al Takeyya" means: "to lie if it protects or furthers Muslim agenda"

    Go ahead

  • @Omer698 A one word translation would be "dissimulation." But, it doesn't matter what the literal meaning is. What matters is how Muslims use Al-Takeyya to lie to non-believers. I don't need to "prove" anything to you. I see the tactics used everyday.

  • @kicknaxe Ah so no evidence then? as I thought. Back to your hide out and conspiracy theories then.........

  • @Omer698 Listen schmuck, my point is that nothing would be good evidence for you. How about this quote from former Muslim and author Abdullah Al Araby:

    “Unfortunately, when dealing with Muslims, one must keep in mind that Muslims can communicate something with apparent sincerity, when in reality they may have just the opposite agenda in their hearts. Bluntly stated, Islam permits Muslims to lie anytime that they perceive that their own well-being, or that of Islam, is threatened.”

  • @kicknaxe You're wasting time here, quote me a single Islamic text that says Muslim can lie to further the "Islamic agenda", if you can't just say so and admit you listened to biased/negative sources who ironically lied to further there own anti Islam agenda. That way you'd be seen as a more respectable and honest individual who only out of no fault of their own got caught up in this whole anti Muslim hysteria.

  • @Omer698 "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." Surah 2:225

  • @Omer698 "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.) But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." Surah 3: 28

  • @Omer698 Those are some of the texts Muslims use to justify Al-Takeyya. Now you’re going to be obtuse and tell me how those texts don’t say specifically, “advance the Islamic agenda.” It’s irrelevant what your worthless texts say anyways. What is relevant is what Muslims DO!

  • @Omer698 There is no anti-Muslim hysteria. It’s all true. I don’t need “biased/negative sources” to form my opinion. I see it for myself first hand! The governments are allowing Muslims into Europe in droves in an effort to be “PC” and “tolerant.” Now Muslims are turning places like Great Britain into a 3rd world. They want sharia law imposed. Muslim women pop out 8 kids apiece. I’m sick of it!

  • @kicknaxe So here it is in the open, as usual, the typical anti Muslim sheep come out of their skin to be the wolves that they are, racist wolves to be precise. You should've stopped with the scripture stuff but now you turned into an immigration issue and even thrown in the "3rd world" fish in the can.

    This conversation is done, you've proven my point to a T.

  • @Omer698 Muslim isn't a race, idiot. I don't wear sheep's clothing. I've never hidden my views. I don't lie like the Muslim in this video.

    You are a beacon of morality Omer. Perhaps someday I can learn to be as tolerant as you and the Muslims in Iran that are going to stone a pregnant woman to death for "adultery."

  • @kicknaxe Bullshit, you're a racist white supremacist, the whole Muslims aren't a race shtick is a load of crap and people with your mentality and the words they use proves that perfectly, and I'm glad you don't hide from your racist views.

    I don't talk to racist scum and now you want to run your mouth about taqqiya?

    Piss off. Last reply, you owned yourself.

  • @Omer698 Is that all you’ve got Omer Pyle? You pull the race card? There is a difference between being racist and preserving culture. The German government stated that statistically their country would be a Muslim state by 2050. The day Muslim countries like Iran and Pakistan start allowing “infidels” into their countries by the thousands (supposing anyone actually wanted to live there!) to overtake them with “infidel” cultures, I’ll start listening to you about tolerance.

  • @Omer698 "O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who

    are near to you, and let them find harshness in you,

    and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty" Qur'an, Sura 9:123

  • @Omer698 In the words of Muammar al-Qaddafi “There are signs that allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. We don’t need terrorists. We don’t need homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims [in Europe] will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”

  • @Omer698 I could sit here and fill in a thousand of these comment boxes with examples of Muslim lies. I’m not about to waste my time doing that. The only conspiracy here is that Islam is a “religion of peace.” Your insistence that I prove to you Muslims lie to further their agenda is ludicrous. It’s plain for anyone with open eyes to see that they do. Why don’t you prove to me Muslims DON’T lie using Al-Takeyya?

  • That's what I've always said; the current Qur'an was compiled under Uthman, well after the Byzantine-Sassanid conflict occurred. Will the Mussulmen listen to this? I don't think so. Will they go out and use "Miracles" that you have ALREADY debunked against other, uninformed individuals in their Da'wah to Non-Moslems? Most likely.

  • @Klingschor i think md said in the hadits or his sayings that the place where they would be defeated was the lowest place on land,near the dead sea.

  • @j400wel

    Which one, precisely? Can you plois cite a reference number?

  • @Klingschor sorry its not the hadith

    i asked a muslim freind and showed him this vid,it seems our freind is readding the verse wrong

    the verse should read-THE ROMANS HAVE BEEN DEFEATED AT THE LOWEST LAND- NOT THE nearest.

    search-the lowest land on earth-on utube and go to vid by justthinkonetime-4th or 5th vid on page.

  • @j400wel

    Merrrgh - I am very busy - you be thankful for this!

  • @j400wel

    Ok, got it - it's Surah 30 verses 2-4, and it is most definately NOT talking about the Dead Sea - a brief examination of the Tafsirs explains this.

    Jalalayn Tafsir, 30:3

    "...in the nearer [part of the] land, that is, in the Byzantine land [that lies] nearest to Persia in Mesopotamia (al-Jazīra)."

  • This picture is splattered all over Islamic websites when you search for 'splitting of the moon'. It is called 'Rima Ariadaeus' and significantly, not a single such website I have seen names it as such. Probably because another googling of that name reveals it is not evidence for anything of the sort. This is a lie being fronted on a grand scale.

  • "Proof" has many definitions, only one of which is the mathematical certainty one. Another (according to Wiktionary) is, "The degree of evidence which convinces the mind of any truth or fact"--in other words, evidence to such a degree that it is unreasonable to withhold agreement. This isn't certainty, just a high enough probability that it's unreasonable to think it's not true unless and until other evidence comes along to refute it.

  • @shanedk Yes. Like I said, most people (including those who, unlike me, speak English as a first language) use the terms almost if not completely interchangeably. I just prefer to make the distinction, and if I do use the word "proof" in that sense, to either state or at least imply the "beyond a reasonable doubt" clause.

  • What is scary is that westerners are falling for this crap, Just swallow it up uncritically without checking to confirm that what is being told to them is infact true.

  • When I grew up raised as a Jehovah witness, I was once wowed by the WT claims about the so called miraculous Isaiahic prophecies taught to me since I was old enough to read , The WT mislead me into wrongly believing that their was strong evidence that Isaiah and many its many predictions of future events were written before those events happend , When infact the oldest known manuscripts date no further then the 1st century BCE.

  • I think that guy has confused the meaning of the words "flawless" and "flawed".

  • Ignorance is strong in that one.

    Splitting of the moon story is almost as funny as all the iron of earth arriving with giant meteor. Astronomy was quite advanced in many cultures those days, I wonder why no-one else recorded moon splitting in two and then coming back together.

  • Really? There are folk that think the Moon was split in two? O.O No stranger than the sun falling to Earth I suppose *rolls eyes*

    Anyways, g'd vid!.. and Kittehs :D

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