Nick Griffin barred from Royal Garden Party

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Who wants a Holocaust denier at the Palace??

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@superstubes He's not a holocaust denier, he's a holocaust revisionist.

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does he think it happened or not??

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aaarrrrrr, he's like Cinderella - all dressed up and no Ball to go to!!  LOL.

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@redspyglass Didn't think so..

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democrosy and freedom died that day

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the BNP should be calling to kick that ugly little German dwarf Liz Windsor (of the 'little ppl') and her cold blooded, maladjusted (psychopathic!), taxpayer-funded, HUGE extended family of parasites OUT of their powerful offices n spheres of influence, OUT of their innumerable palaces n castles n plush townhouses n mansions n strip them of ALL their unlawful gotten gains. They should also be pressing to abolish the Crown i.e. The City which foments bloody revolutions and coup d'etats...cont...

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(2) in all corners of the globe so as to steal the commonwealth of other ppls on their and other ancient dynasties behalf ...whilst at the same time rigging the financial markets to shaft us lot over here in the west. Abolish (necessarily i guess) the highly secretive, unaccountable-to-the-public Privy Council that exists solely to serve the monarch's vested interests and completely reform the terroristic security services (and a rapidly but quietly expanding secret police/spy force) which..cont

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(3) pledge oaths of allegiance not to serve n protect the ppl (they murdered 52 of us on 7/7/05 and use us as guineau pigs in all manner of sick D-Notice'd experiments) but rather to the monarch. (When you see the words: "to serve and protect" in conjunction with the police, it doesn't say WHO they're serving n protecting, does it? It's the Queen and she has NO loyalty to the ppl of this nation she reigns o'er - none whatsoever - b/c she and her fellow elitists don't and never have and....cont..

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(4) never will mix genetically with the rest of us -not that i'd ever wish to partake of such an ugly, dimwitted, short arse n altogether inferior inbred genepool myself. (Orf with their heads!) For them and the rest of the Establishment for whom the so-called 'commoners' of one country are no different to those of any other (white, black, brown, yellow, red; doesn't matter) it's elitists versus said 'commoners' and history right up to the present day proves this to be so beyond doubt...cont...

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(5) On the question of loyalty, why (for e.g.) award the highest honour, the Order of the Garter, to that traitor and criminal (in Common Law, thus a common criminal) Ted Heath who took the first major step (1972) in rendering her redundant by beginning the process of dismantling British national sovereignty by deceiving the ppl into believing we were entering into a purely economic partnership with Europe when declassified documents reveal that he knew full well that a Hitlerian federal...cont

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(6) superstate was the goal all along (n so ofcourse did the Queen who's arguably THE most informed person on the planet)? Well, the Royals are Nazis to their core; hardcare Nazi eugenicists - ask yrself, what are they BUT a eugenics club? People falsely accuse the BNP of being 'racist' when the self-preservation of OUR PPL is nothing of the sort as y'all know yet not a murmer of the REAL racism of the Nazi Royals who only mix n match with their own kind. [Not that this ever interfered...cont...

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(6) with Phil's philandering -there're scores, maybe even hundreds, of little bloodline pickaninnies running about courtesy of Phil] The EUSSR is a Nazi core elite ruling over a soon-to-be feudal serfdom via a militarised police force on the one hand and a eugenicist scientific technocracy on the other but done along collectivist (soviet) lines which is ofcourse what 'Cameron's' Big Society is all about: commutarianism introduced using 'right cover' just as Blair provided 'left cover'...cont

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(7) for his Thatcherite PPP type economic policies..rule by council is what 'soviet' means; theoretically self-selecting from the community but as in the former USSR in practice they;re appointed from on high (they've been gearing up for this for years; that's what the secretive, sinister Common Purpose is all about)...only now that they've thoroughly fleeced the sheeple are they saying that we should be given the chance to govern ourselves b/c "govt doesn't have all the answers" -

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(8) what? - to all the fucking problems it manufactured on behalf of its pimps, the ancient bloodline banking dynasts? Cynical and deceitful little shits like Cameron's just another prozzie selectively bred and groomed for high office many years before the public had ever heard of him...same with Blair n the rest of them. Soon, "we the ppl" will decide where to make the monstrously swingeing cuts in public expenditure and where and to whom to spread the little funding and RATIONED FOOD...cont...

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(9) (oh yes, i've read their articles; it's no secret) that we're in the none-too-distant future given by the very well fed, claret guzzling EUSSR technocrats in Brussels and "we" will also decide who performs this, that and the other 'community service' (without renumeration) just as it was in the USSR WHICH FELL WITHOUT A SHOT BEING FIRED B/C IT WAS PLANNED THAT WAY to merge with the West into Cameron's Commutarianism. This neo-feudal EUSSR has been an agenda loooooong (many generations)..cont

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(10) in the planning n implementation n only appears to conflict with the Queen's nationalistic raison d'etre. In reality it doesn't b/c she belongs to an inter-generational bloodline elite hellbent on massive global depopulation a la (e,g.) Kissinger's Report from Iron Mountain of 1974 or the statutes of the Georgia Guidestones etc (recall Phil Mountbatten-Windsor's wish to reincarnate as a human exterminating virus n Lord Porrit's recent proclamation that we must HALVE the UK population...cont

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(11) which he somehow managed to say with a straight face without any reference to the unofficial policy of mass immigration of the very man (and a VERY well rewarded man too, Mr. Bel Air (Blair)) who ennobled him... *jaw dropping cynicism*. Sorry to go on, i'll wind it up now but look at the Bill n Melinda Gates Foundation 'Planned Parenthood' . Wossat all about? Abortion / sterilisation via tainted vaccines. What does Henry Kissinger or his boss n the Queen's Branch Manager of U.S. Inc...cont

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(12) and blood relative David Rockefeller harp on all the time? Or Ted Turner? Or Phil -- and of late his dopey deluded lad -- Charlie Windsor? Now David Attenborough's at it aswell (note: each western country has its own 'much loved' 'highly respected' (tho not by me) David Attenborough; that's no accident either)? DEPOPULATION. Notice how all of these elitists' philanthropic foundations/charities have to do with abortion / 'vaccination' i.e. covert sterilisation that their front group...cont..

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(13) and embryonic world govt. the PRIVATELY OWNED UNELECTED U.N. have been caught red-handed at countless times). BOTH mass immigration and the dissolution of our national sovereignty are done hand-in-glove b/c the former destroys forever our cultural and racial identity while the latter 'takes care' of our national identity. We're under serious sustained attack on many, many fronts b/c warfare isn't exclusively about bombs n bullets but unfortunately most ppl including most of my fellow...cont

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(14) nationalists aren't zeroing in properly, they're lashing out instinctively at the effects (e,g. the immigrants themselves / Islamisation etc., - exactly what they want us to do) instead of holding their horses and looking coolly at the the real causative forces of ALL our problems (that is, the puppet masters of the prostitute politicians who've pre-planned ALL of this: an international bloodline elite of so-called Black Nobility and money lenders as embodied by the RIIA based at...cont...

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(14) Chatham House: the REAL (shadow) govt.) and we as a ppl need to wake up fast to who this real enemy is before it's too late. So if i were in Griffin's shoes i'd've told the Palace to fuck off adding that she's not welcome at MY garden parties (BBQs) either b/c i don't hang around with rubbish - that i'm very picky about who i invite and the longwinded hyphenated names of psychopathic scum that rises to the top aren't on the list. (If yr name's not down, yr not coming in).,,,,cont....

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(14) I too only eat organic b/c you don't find any of that lot eating weaponised (GM) food, d'ya? (It's bioengineered by bioweapons experts and that's a matter of public record but what isn't - tho it SHOULD be obvious and IS obvious to non-domesticated, wild ppl like myself - is that it's 'softkilling' you -- so stop feeding yrself n yr loved ones with it; most ppl are priced out of organic food; no accident; part of a wider eugenics programme). Charlie Windsor (aka Saxe-Coburg-Gotha) cont....

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(15) 's got his own private organic farm. They all have. It's specially flown in wherever they are, wherever they go. Who paid for that highly expensive (organic) spread at the Palace? We did....sorry to go on for so long lol...out of the £millions handed to the Q on a silver platter from the Civil List: NOTHING BUT PARASITES LOL and the BNP should be calling them out. What've they got to fear? TELL THE TRUTH AND SHAME THE DEVIL. The media hammer the BNP anyways FOR TELLING THE TRUTH....cont...

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(16) A few lost monarchist voters but i'm confident many'd be converted hearing it from Nick who's a fantastically gifted communicator; all the sharper from having to duel with these controlled corporate media whore anchors like the semi-scripted gobshite bitch in this vid -they'd soon realise they've been fawning sychophants their entire lives n snap out of it. Nationalism does NOT equate to irrational support for a criminal gang of'German psychopaths even if they are immaculately well tailored

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@NoPrivacyANYMORE10 Thanks for all the comments, some very interesting and thought-provoking stuff!

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@BritainDivided mini-sermon lol -i've got a key in my back n the psychopathic Royal Family must've wound it up -like Pringles, once i start to have a pop i don't seem able to stop...thanx for all the vids; i'm discreetly active in the nationalist cause, learning more all the time, less gauche than i was; yeah, i can see a day in the not-too-distant future when the BNP becomes a real counter-revolutionary (bloodless) force in this country in the way the Patriot mvt in the U.S. is fast becoming

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@redspyglass I can't verify that statement, unless you a have a reliable source?

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@redspyglass The BNP doesn't hate the EDL, but as a political party we must distance ourselves from "front line" protests and mass demonstrations which could potentially turn violent.

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@redspyglass That is true, but it's not because the BNP condemns the EDL or think it's a bad organisation, it's because that type of activity doesn't have a place in politics and could reflect badly on the BNP. This is why the BNP has distanced itself from the EDL. The EDL has also distanced itself from the BNP for opposite reasons, it doesn't want to be seen as political. However you will find a lot of cross over between the two orgs and mutual support.

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EDL 1 UAF 0

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Corsican153 has attempted to say the EDL and UAF are equally violent. However he has been completely floored by myself. When challenged to provide evidence of the EDL's violence at demo's he was unable to do so despite repeated requests. Strangely he thinks violence in politics is acceptable too! Finally when presented with the evidence and facts of considerably higher UAF arrests at protests than the EDL he still denied the facts on the grounds he couldn't use Google to verify them. UAF troll.

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@BritainDivided Now I wouldn't ordinarily do this, and I won't post again after this, but I just want to point out a couple of inaccuracies. Like the fact that I DID provide video evidence of EDL violence at demo's, and that I specifically said violence in politics was unnacceptable, that no EVIDENCE was provided that UAF arrests are higher than EDL arrests and that I never denied that they were facts, I merely insisted on having evidence.

Finally, I am not part of the UAF, I hate them too.

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@Corsican155 Right, the video provided by Corsican153 (vimeo(dot)com/10674802) as evidence of violence provides zero evidence. Anyone can watch it for themselves. No attacks on the police, no attacks on rival protesters, no acts of criminal damage. ZERO violence. All it shows is that the demo at Dudley was badly organised by the police and badly managed. A higher number of EDL protesters turned up and the space provided was too small, people got squashed together and broke through the barriers.

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@Corsican155 You did not condemn political violence aimed against politicians. In fact you spent a great deal of time trying to argue that there's no difference between violence against ordinary members of public or elected politicians. There is no difference in your eyes. Even when pointed out to you that political violence is completely different, when it's state backed, persistent against elected elected politicians and designed to undermine democracy and freedom of speech.

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@Corsican155 I DID provide plenty of evidence to you that the UAF arrests at each demo were far higher than the EDL arrests. I quoted you precisely word for word, statements from reliable news sources and stated the source of each quote for you to verify. You chose not to accept this evidence or verify the sources.

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@Corsican155 Considering you hate the UAF you have gone to great lengths to defend them here and seem to get very angry when presented with the evidence that collapsed your argument that the UAF are the same as the EDL, when as I've clearly shown they are not. They're violent, they have high numbers of arrests (even the leader and key officials were arrested for violence) and they regularly engage in political violence against elected politicians. They also attacked someone with a claw hammer.

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@Corsican153 USE GOOGLE. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO FIND THE QUOTES YOURSELF, COME BACK TO ME AND ASK FOR THE URL. I WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.

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@Corsican153 How ridiculous. Nice try, but anyone here can see your game. You've been exposed as a troll.

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@Corsican153 It's absurd to suggest I don't know where the quotes came from. I GOOGLED for "UAF arrests" and simply copied the quotes DIRECTLY from the news sources I quoted. The same as any person with half a brain should be able to do you. The fact you can't do that suggests you're intellectually challenged!

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@Corsican153 I've provided exact quotes from reliable and reputable news sources. Each quote had the news source provided so you could Google for those sources. I cannot provide the URL's in here as you well know. If you're incapable of copying and pasting those quotes into Google, then you have a problem don't you.

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@Corsican153 You ARE playing games. You're just acting like an idiot.

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@Corsican153 I've backed up everything I said and provided reliable quotes and stated the sources.

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@Corsican153 Not for violence no.

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I support free speech, but unfortunately Corsican153 has been banned from this page and channel for being a troll and wasting my time.

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@Corsican153 You're no longer welcome on this channel. Goodbye.

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@Corsican153 Step by step instructions for a dummy: 1. GO TO THE INDEPENDENT NEWSPAPER WEBSITE 2. PASTE OR TYPE IN SOME OF THE QUOTE I PROVIDED FROM THAT SITE. 3. CHECK THE SEARCH RESULTS AND READ THE NEWS ARTICLE.

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@Corsican153 I'm no longer debating with someone who is either incapable of reading and googling information himself, or is just here to troll and waste peoples time. You have had numerous reliable resources and stats all you have to do is copy and paste and you'll see the sources in your browser.

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@Corsican153 Go away you're a troll.

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@Corsican153 No such report has been carried out by any authority. However it's fairly easy to compile one simply by gathering up all the arrests information I have provided from the various demos and UAF protests and comparing. Why don't you do it? Most people don't need to do that though, just reading the journalist reports and seeing the police information on arrests is sufficient to see the UAF arrests are higher. Even their own LEADER and secretary/senior officials have been arrested!

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@Corsican153 Make your mind up. First you ask for statistics as proof of higher UAF arrests for violence, now you're saying statistics are not proof! What proof do you want sir? If you can't even use Google to verify these arrests then you shouldn't really be here debating with me politically.

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@Corsican153 Because they are facts you can verify independently on numerous other news sites.

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@Corsican153 That is evidence. I've provided quotes from reputable news sources which can be verified by simply Googling those quotes. Stop playing games.

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@Corsican153 Google.

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@Corsican153 "The police, while criticising the EDL for "vitriolic name-calling" blamed people predominantly associated with UAF for provoking violence and said that they "acted with, at times, extreme violence". Source: The Independent.

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@Corsican153 "On 19 August 2009, police arrested 19 protesters during a demonstration by UAF against the BNP's Red, White and Blue festival in Codnor, Derbyshire." source: Wikipedia

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@Corsican153 "At least 74 arrests were made, more than 55 from the UAF and nine from the EDL, police said." Source: Mail Online

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@Corsican153 ".There was a total of 67 arrests, 55 of which were UAF supporters and the remaining 12 EDL, police said." source: Times Online.

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@Corsican153 Dudley "At the end of the day, there were just 9 arrests in total, and 6 of these were from the UAF contingent for carrying offensive weapons (knives were confiscated) and drugs. One of our marshals was injured by a bottle, and it is believed that this was caused whilst missiles were being thrown over the cage."

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@Corsican153 "A UAF protester has been fined and ordered to pay costs amounting to £150 after performing a Nazi Salute at the demonstration in Bolton "

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@Corsican153 Bolton demo: "There were 72 arrests on the day. 9 of these were from the 2500 EDL supporters present, the rest were from the 1500 UAF thugs including Weyman Bennett, joint UAF secretary who has been charged with conspiracy to organise violent disorder (a riot) and Martin "Marxist" Smith of "Love Music, Hate Racism". Also, the "other" joint secretary, Dr Rhetta Morhan was also arrested, and bailed with the conditions not to attend any EDL or UAF demos until May 10th".

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@Corsican153 I remember reading an article on the EDL website where the police praised the EDL for their co-operation and conduct but I'm unable to find it. In anycase, if you go to the EDL website and search for "police" you will find numerous examples of good relations between the EDL and the police, mutual respect, support and co-operation.

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@Corsican153 If you have evidence of this I'd be happy to see it. Video evidence that is.

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@Corsican153 When? I haven't seen any video of violence from the EDL. Can you provide it again and I will examine it.

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@Corsican153 They are not political, they are completely non-political. Opposing a religion is not a political activity. The EDL has no political ideology, no policies or interest in politics. They are focused on one issue, extremist Islam and Mosques.

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@Corsican153 The EDL is completely non-political. It does not represent any one particular political ideology or party. It's members come from all different political persuasions and backgrounds. The message the EDL is giving out is non-political. Opposing a religion is not a political activity.

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@Corsican153 Wrong. Local planning authorities have the say in whether Mosques are built or not. And they have to consult the public on this and let them have their say. The fact is, public planning authorities have pandered to Muslim communities and ignored opposition from locals, this is why the EDL came into being and started to protest so-called "Super-Mosques" building sites like the one in Dudley. They are merely giving the locals a voice and making their opposition seen and heard.

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@Corsican153 The EDL has the LEGAL RIGHT to march and protest. That's the key point here. And it's not our fault or responsibility what the UAF does. Each are responsible for their own actions. You can't shift the blame onto the EDL if the UAF provoke violence. If your presence was not there, there wouldn't be violent confrontations. Simple.

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@Corsican153 Go to the EDL website the statements are published there.

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@Corsican153 Yes this information is widely available, scroll back a few pages and you'll see an example I provided at a recent demo.

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@Corsican153 Still not getting the point are you. He's a politician. That's the difference. We don't go around attacking politicians with physical violence.

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@Corsican153 You also seem to be completely ignoring the considerably higher arrests on the UAF side at demo's compared to the EDL, something which has become a regular theme. This in itself shows the UAF are more engaged in using violence and breaking the law than the EDL are.

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@Corsican153 Whether you like it or not, Nick Griffin is an elected MEP representing a million voters and that gives him a legal right to make speeches, to engage in politics and to enter parliament. The UAF has tried to thwart and prevent all of the above using violence and abuse. This is simply unacceptable and goes beyond just violence against an individual, it's an attack on democracy and an attempt to introduce state sanctioned violence into politics against opponents.

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@Corsican153 We don't go around attacking people, the UAF do that. You're preaching to the wrong people, you need to start preaching morals to the UAF. They are the ones who don't seem to understand that violence has no place in politics.

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@Corsican153 There is no violence exhibited by the EDL or BNP that's the whole point I've been making for the last 48 hours, but you don't seem to be able to accept or get, despite the complete lack of evidence to show any violence in their demo's or from the BNP.

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@Corsican153 Nah. As I've explained to you., there is a huge difference between the two orgs and this is clearly seen by looking at the two sites and comparing how the orgs operate and conduct themselves. This is backed up by police statements praising and thanking the EDL.

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@Corsican153 Nah. If the UAF's presence is merely to inflame tensions and provoke people then the responsibility lies solely with them if the EDL goes from non-violent protests to riots. If the UAF kept away from those demo's the risk would be considerably lower. The UAF therefore has a responsibility not to interfere and inflame already tense situations, which the UAF admits are already "on a knife edge". Why antagonise people?

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@Corsican153 Opposition to a religious ideology and the building of Mosques is not a political activity. It's a moral and social responsibility of communities to oppose this. We live in a nonsectarian country and society, and the majority wish to keep it that way. People have a duty to speak out against sectarianism.

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@Corsican153 Right stop right there. I'm giving you a warning now about your language and tone. Please don't use abusive language on my channel or start insulting people, or you will find yourself banned and your comments removed. See my channel homepage for the rules that apply on this channel.

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@Corsican153 As I've already explained, it is different because it is political violence which is very dangerous as it undermines democracy.

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@Corsican153 There is a difference, and it's a big one, which I've already demonstrated clearly to you. If you don't accept that difference, that's up to you.

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@Corsican153 Huge difference between an elected politician and an ordinary member of the public. An elected politician represents a large section of the public and that gives them the mandate and legal right to engage in politics, to make speeches and challenge the government on policy. It's their duty to their voters. Anyone who undermines that or seeks to deny that right, isn't supportive of open democracy and must be against it. You don't use violence to attack political opponents full stop.

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@Corsican153 It's ridiculous what you are saying! Imagine if the BNP and it's supporters started attacking Labour politicians with eggs and darts, and started appearing on mass every time a Labour politician appeared in public shouting "Marxist scum, off our streets". This wouldn't be tolerated. You can guarantee the police could intervene and arrests would be made. Action would be taken to restrict the BNP from carrying out such protests. No such action is taken against the UAF.

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@Corsican153 The UAF have warned that these demo's by the EDL are sometimes on a "knife-edge" and they're worried it could turn into rioting. Should these future demo's by the EDL turn into rioting and mass violence, it will be the UAF's fault and they will be to blame. Their use of violence and continued antagonising will be the spark that turns angry protests into full scale riots.

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@Corsican153 It's far from "irrelevant" it's very relevant. It shows that they are political and are using violence in politics which is simply unacceptable. One of the key laws and rights we fought for in this country is freedom for all. That means free speech and the right to take have an open democracy. These people are trying to undermine that and deny people their basic human rights. This kind of violence and undemocratic behaviour should be condemned by all.

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@Corsican153 If you go to the EDL website you will see it's not just an empty statement like on the UAF's website, you will see how the demo's are organised, how the police and local authorities are consulted and safety of protesters and local residents is paramount. You will see how the EDL provides stewards at every demo to supervise the EDL members. There is nothing of this organisational nature on the UAF side. They don't do demos, they just arrive unannounced to antagonise the EDL and BNP.

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@Corsican153 Simple answer to that one. There is plenty of video evidence that the UAF are violent. Actual attacks on individuals have been caught on camera numerous times. And we're not just talking clashes between protesters here, we're talking about carefully planned and orchestrated attacks on BNP elected politicians and candidates.

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@redspyglass Yes but then you went on to say they are violent and demo's are full of violence. You even mentioned rioting I believe, and provided one video as evidence which turned out to be nothing of the sort. I originally stated the EDL are an org committed to peaceful non-violence protests and demonstrations. And that is the case. People will obviously get rowdy and shout abuse, you don't expect them to stand in silence do you holding signs?

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@redspyglass I see what you're trying to do, back peddle. You previously said the EDL were violent. With respect, the video you provided..the big Guardian 4 months uncover "expose" didn't show a single act of physical violence towards anyone. No evidence of criminal damage or rioting..don't you think in all that time filming all their demo's (the org has only existed 1 year) they would of gained some hard evidence if there was any? It's time to "put up, or shut up" as the saying goes.

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@Corsican153 Again, as has been pointed out several times previously by myself, the UAF use acts of physical violence aimed at elected representatives of a legitimate political party. The EDL do not. You cannot compare the EDL to the UAF in terms of violence and claim they are equally as bad. Because they are not. The EDL is non-political and does not target individuals like the UAF does.

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@Corsican153 You haven't provided ANY evidence so far to back up your claims of violence and rioting by the EDL. I'd be happy to examine any such evidence you know of.

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@Corsican153 Unfortunately they're not and I don't see how you can make the comparison. Firstly, the EDL demo's are properly organised well in advance and properly supervised by the EDL and properly policed. The same cannot be said of the UAF. EDL protest demo's take place in designated protest areas which are normally fenced off to the wider public and UAF mobs. Again, the same cannot be said of the UAF.

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@Corsican153 Unfortunately it's necessary in our society and you should be questioning why that is, rather than criticising it. Large numbers of people are unhappy with how the country is being run, of what is happening to their own towns and communities. It's right they're angry and expressing that anger in the form of non-violent protests. I'd be interested to see your video URLs to the EDL demo's engaging in violence and rioting if you have them?

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@redspyglass Well technically yes, when it's directed against an individual. However we're talking about acts of physical violence here.

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@Corsican153 For a start, it's very misleading to compare the UAF with the EDL. The EDL are a non-political org committed to peaceful demonstrations. The UAF are a POLITICAL organisation and they are opposed to freedom of speech and democracy. They don't just antagonise the EDL they also turn up wherever the BNP are and freely carry out unprovoked physical assaults. There have been several on Nick Griffin and other BNP elected politicians themselves, including an attack with a claw hammer.

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@Corsican153 That's simply not true as I've shown. Acting aggressive, shouting abuse etc is merely bravado. It happens on both sides equally. The EDL don't commit acts of violence at demos. That is not what the demo's are for or about. There is ZERO evidence of widescale violence at the demos and I challenge anyone here to provide such evidence. No-one has so far. Minor scuffles and tussles with journalists or others who leave the protest sites is all you will see.

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@redspyglass I've watched the Guardian investigation you refer to. Whilst it does show some very rowdy and abusive individuals in the video footage, there is no hard hitting evidence (or any minor evidence even) of violence at protests. Interesting, the Guardian journalist admitted that at one protest the majority of arrests made were UAF members (54 out of 73 - 73%).

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@redspyglass There's no point in getting into what the EDL members are or aren't. The EDL has a wide cross section of members and supporters who attend demos, including women, children and of course members of ethnic minorities. It's not just the skin head football supporter type. They are protesting about a common concern and specific issue. They have no reason to be violent, unless they are provoked.

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@redspyglass I've challenged you over and over to back up what you're saying about the EDL. You have failed to do so. I'm merely correcting you and informing other visitors that it's actually the other way around. It's the UAF who are the violent rent-a-mob and the EDL who are the peaceful protest group. It's important people see and recognise the difference, because the media tries to portray it the other way around.

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@redspyglass URL's links to videos?

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@redspyglass A reliable source, is a credible media source, i.e. a news network with journalist video footage and commentary. You would need video footage of an actual EDL demo or recognised EDL protest venue showing violence. That would be credible evidence to substantiate your allegations.

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@redspyglass As for the police, they have made statements (which are published on the EDL website) praising the EDL management team for conducting demo's peacefully, organising them properly.and co-operating with them. If the EDL were the violent gang of thugs you're making them out to be, why would they even bother co-operating with the police and authorities, why announce protests in advance? They would surely just turn up unannounced in towns and attack Muslims. They would destroy Mosques etc

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@redspyglass I most definitely DO dispute so-called "facts" reported by the media. There's a huge difference between printing an article or written account of some events, and video journalism that films and shows exactly what happened. If what you claim is true, there would be video footage showing it. The fact there isn't, suggests there is no proof. The media attend all these protests.

[BritainDivided]

@redspyglass Can you quote any from reliable sources? I can quote you media accounts of UAF arrests and non-EDL members.

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@redspyglass You provided only ONE video so far which you claimed showed evidence of violence and rioting carried out by the EDL during an organised protest. However after looking at the video it was nothing of the sort. There was merely a rowdy crowd. No sign of fighting or criminal damage, no conflict with the police even. Hardly a riot and certainly not violent. Your credibility is slipping.

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@redspyglass Every question I've asked you so far, you've failed to answer or provide any evidence to back up your allegations. I must therefore conclude that you're merely repeating hearsay and attempts to smear the EDL. If you make allegations, you have to have hard evidence to back it up, i.e. videos showing what you're saying so people can see it themselves. The EDL is misrepresented in the media and has been from the beginning, you cannot rely on media stories and accounts.

[BritainDivided]

@redspyglass Don't need Google, it's all here on YouTube. You can see it with your own eyes. Search for UAF hammer attack, UAF dart throwing, UAF throwing Eggs. Check out my own video..Special branch undercover police infiltrate anti-fascists. It's all here.

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@redspyglass I've seen MANY videos and evidence of large numbers of "racist" (towards whites) UAF members who are clearly bigoted, illiterate, jobless, loud mouthed hooligans and an odd assortment of social-misfits with nothing better to do that antagonise people and cause trouble. Sounds like much what you're describing about the EDL.

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@redspyglass The peacefulness of an organisation is shown by its activities and it's commitment to showing good conduct. The EDL has always maintained those principles and remains non-political. It works with local authorities and the police openly, declaring and organising its protests well in advance. It is hardly the kind of violent thuggery you're trying to make it out to be. The UAF on the other hand, is the violent rent-a-mob that just arrives unannounced to stir up trouble.

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@redspyglass You claim EDL members smashed up a Hindu temple, but what proof do you have? I've seen and heard very different eye witness accounts at that demo, concerning extremely physical attacks on EDL members by UAF and anti-EDL protestors and Muslims. Much of the damage to the local houses and buildings was done by local youths nothing to do with the EDL. The EDL people actually tried to shout at them to stop it's been reported. The police lost control of the situation and caused a conflict

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@redspyglass The problem is, you have no hard evidence to back up these allegations. Where are the videos showing EDL protests turning violent? There are none. You claim you only need to witness or attend a demo to see they're violent...if that is the case, why aren't there loads of videos showing this violence? Some would argue, the EDL is the ideal outlet for those individuals you describe to make their voice and discontent with how the country is going heard peacefully.

[BritainDivided]

@redspyglass Making statements on websites is all very well and good, but it's how demonstrations and group activities are organised that shows whether a group is peaceful and committed to legitimate activities. Now the UAF openly encourages throwing eggs, denying freedom of speech, disrupting legitimate political speeches and meetings. When has the EDL ever denied freedom of speech, disrupted speeches, protests or meetings of others? Never. 

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@redspyglass There's no evidence in the video of the "violent mob" engaging in any violent behaviour though is there? You can't make claims based on hearsay, you need real evidence. It's just not there. As I have said now several times, the EDL is committed to peaceful demonstration as an organisation. It is against violence and doesn't allow it at it's demonstrations. This is clearly stated on it's website and enforced with Stewards at every demo. If violent, why have stewards?

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@redspyglass Watched it. Few comments.. first observation..this isn't an actual EDL protest.. those opposed to the EDL were giving as much (if not more) abuse than the EDL guys who were just trying to have a drink it looked like. Often the cause of abusive exchanges is due to provocation by Muslims/UAF supporters like those in the video giving the finger and shouting abuse. It is difficult tho to keep people apart after demo's and there's bound to be some altercation.

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@redspyglass Do you have any particular video footage in mind that shows EDL protesters engaging in violence? Do you have any specific incidences of violence perpetuated by an EDL member which was reported in the media you can quote?

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@redspyglass Thanks. The org itself is committed to peaceful protest and non-violence. You can see that message all over it's website and people attending protests are supervised and warned before hand that violence or even "racist" remarks and shouting abuse won't be tolerated. EDL members are encouraged to report such behaviour to the EDL Stewards. Obviously it's impossible to control every member when there's 2,000+ at a rally. However the spirit of non-violent protest what the EDL is about.

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@redspyglass Yeah but as I've shown that is not the case. The EDL is peaceful and committed to organised non-violent, non-political protests which are pre-arranged with the police and local authorities and are not directed against individuals. The UAF by contrast are political, are random and are not organised or planned, they intimidate and physically attack individuals, they disrupt a legal and lawful democracy party doing electioneering or speech making etc, they are anti-freedom of speech.

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@redspyglass The same argument that the UAF is peaceful? How do you explain all the overwhelming video evidence and statements by victims that shows otherwise?

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@redspyglass Of course he publicised the withdrawal of the invitation. What did you expect him to do, go quietly away?He's a politician and it's an opportunity to gain publicity for the party. Not to mention exposing the lack of democracy, freedom of speech and the high level corruption in the British establishment that now permeates British politics.

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@redspyglass The Royal household has long been under the thumb of the political establishment, that's no secret to anyone. The establishment says jump, they say how high. There is no doubt that pressure from the UAF, i.e threats, and criticisms from other politicians and establishment figures, pressured the Royal household into withdrawing their invitation. Why offer it in the first place if they didn't intend to honour it? It's obviously they were pressured.

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@redspyglass Nah. The media likes to further that false image, but the reality is very different. The police fully support the EDL and have no problems with EDL protests which go off peacefully every time. There is no evidence, nor convictions of any ethnically motivated assaults or group attacks by the EDL. There is plenty of video evidence on you YouTube however of the UAF punching, kicking, eggs, darts and even using a hammer against someone. People attend UAF protests to do violence.

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@redspyglass As for the EDL being exposed..if you want a real expose check out my video by a former Special Branch police officer who exposes the violent behaviour of the so-called anti-fascists. THAT'S an expose. The EDL have never been implicated to any violent attacks. The same cannot be said for the UAF, there's a long and growing list.

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@redspyglass The decision wasn't made by the Royal household, anyone can see that. It was purely political and designed to suppress the media.

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@redspyglass Anyone who is in any doubt about the conduct of the EDL can visit their website and see how organised and peaceful the group are. Anyone who needs proof the UAF are violent only need to do a search on YouTube and see the numerous videos of violence, including a hammer attack on a BNP candidate and dart and egg throwing at members of parliament. Violent outbursts are common place with UAF supporters, the group attracts social-misfits and violent individuals.

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@redspyglass The EDL are a peaceful group and are opposed to violence in demonstrations. Despite whatever you say. The EDL have their own stewards and security team's in every region who closely monitor the behaviour and conduct of protesters. All protests are carried out with the full cooperation and support of the police in agreed designated areas. It's the UAF who operate outside the law and try to disrupt the EDL's peaceful organised planned protests and incite violence.

[TheDustpile]

Interesting that a BNP man being elected or invited to a party sees him attacked by mobs for peace!

But our latest Muslim riot in England was just last Sunday, we get Muslims 'needing' their own toilets, their own residential houses, their own animal cruelty binges, legal system, own swimming pools, their own right to riot, rape and burn their way across Europe..... we're supposed to just take it.

Click my name to view TOLERANCE SUITE FOR THE VITRIOLIC ENLIGHTENED

[KiraTheSaviour]

The EDL are NOT non-violent, I have seen many videos of them sieg heiling and talking about "paki bashing". There was even a rally where they couldnt reach any minorities/UAF to start fights with them so they started fighting eachother instead! Non violent?? Yeah right!

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@KiraTheSaviour The EDL are a peaceful group and are opposed to violence in demonstrations. Despite whatever you say. The EDL have their own stewards and security team's in every region who closely monitor the behaviour and conduct of protesters. All protests are carried out with the full cooperation and support of the police in agreed designated areas. It's the UAF who operate outside the law and try to disrupt the EDL's peaceful organised planned protests and incite violence.

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@KiraTheSaviour Anyone who is in any doubt about the conduct of the EDL can visit their website and see how organised and peaceful the group are. Anyone who needs proof the UAF are violent only need to do a search on YouTube and see the numerous videos of violence, including a hammer attack on a BNP candidate and dart and egg throwing at members of parliament. Violent outbursts are common place with UAF supporters, the group attracts social-misfits and violent individuals.

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@TheSpineyOne This comment will be passed to the police along with your details.

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@TheSpineyOne You're banned from this channel for inciting violence.

[jestervision595]

@TheSpineyOne The earlier you deal with a problem the better, as with cancer, as with nazism...that didnt happen and we got WW2. Enoch powell warned about the problems we would face from the multicultural experiment and he has been proven correct, unless ofcourse your on a six figure salary living in surrey or the cotswolds. If you fail to recognise the validity of the bnp's views, as scary as they may be, you are simply disregarding the future and sleepwalking in the present.

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@TheSpineyOne I also don't appreciate your using my channel and videos to promote violence.

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@TheSpineyOne The EDL are non-violent. It's the UAF who are the violent mob whenever protests take place.

[GoodFightLad]

The UAF over the past few years have lost all credibility in the eyes of the British people and even the media. Let them carry on with their violent ways, it'll be a great joy to see them destroy themselves.

[MRSPADDY]

What a retard woman. He backed up what he said about David Cameron and the UAF! He had the proof and facts. This wasn't a one off incident with the UAF either. The police have stated the UAF were the perpetrators of violence in the rallys between themselves and the EDL.

[JOELJW23]

How high is her skirt!?!?! it's up under her armpits. It looks like she's got a carpet around her waist

[jestervision595]

Actions like this are good eye-openers for the general public to see a crumbling democracy before their eyes. The general public are still sleepwalkers to the huge problems their country faces, they dont even comprehend a future for their children, because if they did they would realise parties such as the bnp speak up for them, in the future nick griffin will be looked back on in very positive light, just as enoch powell also who warned about the shit we are in today.