Former Trinitarian Christians discuss why they REJECTED the doctrine of the Trinity!!

[hazelmay64]

Those who reject the trinity are falling for an ancient lie that dates back thousands of years. They are deceived and blind. God is three in one as He claimed. He also sent His only begotten Son into the world to shed His holy blood to save us from our sins. I pray that the veil that is blinding your eyes to the truth of the gospel would be removed. Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. No one can go there any other way. You don't have to die to get there. He already made a way for you.

[eagle123456789101112]

@hazelmay64 The word "trinity" or "triune" does NOT exist in the Bible. Jesus said, "My FATHER IS GREATER THAN I"(John 14:28). Jesus said,"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19).Jesus said,"Now this is eternal life: that they may know YOU,THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD,and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" (John 17:3). The doctrine of trinity was establised in 325 A.D. by pagans and whoever didn't accept it were persecuted. God is One. Islam is the truth.

[julio14335]

THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS PROBLEMATIC

[AbrahamicMovement]

Jesus is never called the Almighty, never called the "Lord God". Yes "God" refers to him in Heb. 1. But this is an anointed "God," who has a God. Why are you struggling against the unitarian creed of Jesus? There cannot be two who are YHVH. Why not start with the narratives of Matt and Luke? You are rushing to John and Paul without first understanding that the Son was procreated in Mary, by miracle. "For that reason precisely he will be called Son of God and for no other reason." Lk 1:35.

[AbrahamicMovement]

Your speaker is SO right to say that God would be deceptive if he does not mean "beget" when he says beget! The begetting of the Son is simply and clear in Luke 1:35 and Matt 1:20.

("begotten in her").You are still short on actual texts and heavy on post-biblical philosophy.

Go back to the creed of Jesus and Israel. It is wrong to say that God uses language which we cannot understand! That would not be revelation at all.

If anyone declares the Deity of Jesus he confesses more than one YHVH.

[AbrahamicMovement]

All you really need to emphasize is that Jesus affirmed the central creed of Israel. Should not Christians follow Jesus and his teachings? That setlles the issue. The creed of Jesus is that "the Lord our God is one Lord." That is quite clear. Jn 17:3 confirms this. The Father is the only one who is true God. That excludes anyone else. Christianity is the only world religion which begins by discarding its own founder's creed!

[AbrahamicMovement]

Marvelous. Please let me send you my two full books in agreement with you.

The creed of Jesus is "the Lord our God is one Lord" not two or three. Are we going to listen to Jesus and obey him? There is only one YHVH. To say Jesus is YHVH endorses two who are YHVH, ie two YHVHs. Help us return to the real Jesus who endorsed the unitarian creed of his heritage (Mk 12:29). Anthony Buzzard MA (Oxon.) MA Th

[julio14335]

I HAVE NEVER HEARD CHRISTIANS TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCEL OF NICEA, MUSLIMS OFTEN TALK ABOUT IT WHY?

[AbrahamicMovement]

@julio14335 present-day Orthodox Christians have been slowly shying away from the many Catholic councils and their creeds. Especially the Athanasian creed. Why? They are non-biblical. :P

[hanzo77777]

you have to do a lot of gymnastics to explain who was Jesus as he is presented in the bible....

but what i can't understand is when christians say that jesus is god and man at the same time!!!

how can you mix between something very weak (human) with infinite power of god...

[amaamazen2]

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Jesus ( Peace be upon him) is neither God nor the son of God.

He is the prophet of God. I really feel sorry for you.

If you really want to know the right answer about who is Jesus, you should know Islam First.

[855842]

Why do ppl worship a man?

[Mee551able]

there no proof of a god 

[h2dude69]

@Mee551able

You yourself is proof that there is GOD.

[Mee551able]

@h2dude69 I come from my mum an dad and they came from there mum and dad an so on dogs cats and all animals come from there mums an dads. So dont talk stupid.

[h2dude69]

@Mee551able

Haha!! You were a sperm. A sperm turn into this totally different living breathing creature with so many abilities. You say that this just happened randomly and to you that's logical is it?

[Mee551able]

@h2dude69 Yes. God isnt real it was made up.

[h2dude69]

@Mee551able

I guess you aren't real either

[Mee551able]

@h2dude69 Im real mate, God isnt.

[h2dude69]

@Mee551able

No mate. If God isn't real, then you wouldn't exist. He brought you and everything else to existence. Do not deny him

[Mee551able]

@h2dude69 No it didnt GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE BIBLE COS ITS A LIE

[h2dude69]

@Mee551able

I can agree with that to some extent :D. Because I'm not christian.

[iamTOTALLYredeemed]

They are not arguing against the Trinity position, they arguing against Sabellianism.

[JosephBarnabaz]

1. "your God and my God": Jesus is making a clear distinction between his unique relationship to the Father in not using "our God". Messiah Jesus the incarnated second Person of the Godhead can call the Father God because he is also human. This is plain and simple. Furthermore it's in perfect harmony with the Old Testament's predictions about the Messiah - in the case someone likes to ask "Can God have a God?": Lk 20:42-44, Ps 110:1, Ps 45:7, aso.

[h2dude69]

@JosephBarnabaz

Here we go again. Its not plain and simple at all. There is no explanation for the trinity. You cannot say Jesus is God because he was a Man. He can't be both at the same time. Its a logical fallacy.

[Hamza5274]

@soltbolz mujtahid2006 channel will probably get the vids first

[aboodred1]

is there any difference between bible doctrine and the teachings of the church?!