why not just poke him in the eye? ;-) My point is there are many simple and effective techniques to really hurt someone without knowing any MA, it's called "combat" and quite deadly, it's also highly illegal in security work due to being classed as "excessive force" in most countries. Knowing this stuff does NOT give you the right to take someone's life JUST BECAUSE THEY GRAB OUR COLLAR OR LAPEL!
@corporacionmonstruo most peoples' fists aren't hardened enough to strike the jaw. a palm heel is alittle more realistic for the general public. plus with the palm heel you have the open hand to grab, rack the face/eyes mabey even pull hair, and ear, a piercing, or clothing. i'v always taught, soft to hard and hard to soft. palm would be soft, to strike the face which is hard. fist is hard, use it to strike the body which is soft.
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Both of these faggots are craven american cowards, religious zealots and human garbage. They rape children and beat up old people. They need to both grow up and get real fucking jobs. Its typical of the american male to talk about, act out and pretend to have an enemy to punch out or beat up. Hey fellas maybe try to cure cancer while you are selling your "tough guy" videos. LOLamericanboysLOL
@specom Tbh, I'd show it to 14 year olds, if you know about how damaging it is then as a 14 year old you don't go out to kill someone and maybe you will think twice about it.
@stokie22 Well, I don't know how old you are but you are giving 14 year olds a hell of a lot more credit than I do. I see far too many so-called adults who want to learn how to kill and maim people then run around looking for opportunities to use it and claim it was "self defense".
I recognize this, especially since he mentioned Fairbairne (like Gerber knife named after). look it up, that upward palm-strike is meant to break the spine/neck,
Has anyone actually ever tried this technique in a real fight? Because I have and I must say that in MY experience this chin jab technique is about as effective as a fart in a jar i.e. not very effective
this is way diffrent than a chin jab. a chin jab is ment to shock a person for the next power shot like a hook , or a cross or a hay maker the jab is also used to keep the distance between you and the other guy it is a very usfull tool when used correctly. this move is kind of like an uppercut using the force from you lunging forward using the angal to snap his hed back making his brain bang around in his skull if he had a loose neck and you did it hard enough you could do neck damage
In my opinion, this chin jab technique is a joke. Has anyone ever actually tried this technique in a real fight? I have used it twice with zero success.
@1FuckedUpIndividual You earned your screen name. What are you some 14 year old punk? For you to question a Marine Special Ops officer...you are a joke trying to talk tough. Just a little nobody.
"Are you gonna kill the guy/break his neck? I don't know" that is probably the best, most intelligent and rational assesment of the outcome of doing a move like this one could say.
Some say "Oh hells yeah, it'll kill 'em" Others "Pfft-no it's a myth it won't 'ever' kill them actually".
I't like Marc "Animal" MacYoung always says about things like this .."It depends..."
this move is excellent i am currently teaching it to my wife . great videos , possible the best videos on youtube . hoping to get more of your dvds for crimbo .
I agree that open hand strikes are easier to learn and deliver with accuracy under stress and pose less risk of injury to your own hand, but in my experience the open hand strike doesn't compare to the closed fist in terms of power when it comes to KOing someone trying to take your head off.
its the heal of your hand (hard & harder to break than your fist)) striking foward and underneath their chin. The aim here is to snap their neck backwards, once he is falling backwards hes yours, he might hurt himself on the way down or you keep attacking if you are up against someone who is trying to seriously fuck you up.
hybrid combatives, I agree with everything you have stated. But when it comes to knockout power, think about it mate, which would you rather be struck hard in the face by: a good punch with the knuckles or the heel of the hand?
certainly a clenched fist used as a fierce uppercut is a really good way to knock out an opponent, BUT as a defensive tactics tool without gloves on, the open hand chin jab offers a greater probability in an accurate delivery given that the clenched fist and uppercut are trained with equal time and effort.
I work in the security field and am a Krav Maga and Kali instructor. As A TRAINER and ex-operator of the US Marine Corps you can trust Mr.Mccann's information.
billy you couldn't be farther from the truth. The chin jab allows an "instinctive" fast motion of the empy hand to combine a seizing apparatus with an accelerated strike ( ie the hand eye coordination of grabbing a doorknob vs. punching a doorknob). Your reactive targetting will be better with an open hand than a clenched fist, as a "fist" is a taught/learned response;wherein an open hand requires no secondary motor skill action (clenching).
Billy, The chin jab is a tried and true effective technique. As with most defensive tactics it takes proper instruction and practice to create proper force. If you throw any technique wrong it will not transfer force to its target. Also adding Dempsey"s falling step (When he explains how you launch of the back foot) will allow you to hit with your whole body and not just your arm. You tried this once in a "Street Fight" and did not execute it properly. It is in fact VERY effective.
in my experience the chin jab is a lame technique that is hard to land properly and lacks knockout power. The only advantage the chin jab has over a clenched fist is that you are less likely to injure your hand upon contact.
billy13024 your full of shit and you have not got a clue about fighting. why would they teach it to SF units if it did not work?? the chin jab works in conjunction with other fighting techniques i.e block a punch with your elbow and then simultaneously apply the chin jab. if you cant put some1 down with a chin jab then you need to take a good look at yourself and learn to fight
You have to get REALLY close to have a chance of using this blow> I have used the chin jab twice as a pre emptive strike on the street and thug looked at me and said" why are u slapping". the blow landed full force with accuracy and the guy wasn't even hurt.
I've had a few streetfights in my life and I cannot see how this chin jab could be landed so that it caused any real damage. If someone can in swinging with a flurry of punches the chin jab would be impossible to land on the opponent
as far as I know he selects civilians for self protection training after careful background analysis of the civilian and you have to be over 24 years old.
Fairbairn students will want to know that course lesson plans from Camp X were declassified a few years ago and are now in print. They contain notes critiquing a few of the moves detailed in the "Get Tough" manual.
Great Video! I understand the need to describe this as a serious/dangerous technique, but I doubt if the aggressor would ever have a "slack neck" when he grabs your lapel unless he is a really cool customer. Fairbairn advocated this move for putting guys down and then finishing them off with kicks and stomps - but then again that was in wartime.
there are 3 useful instructors on youtube: paul vunak, luke holloway and this guy!
breedingpitmetal 4 months ago 2
@breedingpitmetal
Theres actually many more my friend.. Richard Dimitri, Geoff thompson, Tony Blauer, Lee Morrisson..
cutanddefined 2 weeks ago
also good to do is make both of your hands cup like and clap were his ears are he will give you no more trouble
tnhl77 5 months ago
I wouldn't do this in a real fight. I don't want to go to prison. =\
Shorty20122012 6 months ago
McCann is not a fraud. Jim Kelly was the fraud.
Zeroichiz 6 months ago
What if I throw an uppercut with my closed fist? Wouldnt that be almost the same?
Nice vid
JackTheGripper1985 7 months ago
@JackTheGripper1985 I like your way better- looks to be less likely to break a finger, or a wrist.
mrrodneyalong 7 months ago
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Mr9mm4u 7 months ago
@Mr9mm4u Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
xXDeathGuyXx 5 months ago
why not just poke him in the eye? ;-) My point is there are many simple and effective techniques to really hurt someone without knowing any MA, it's called "combat" and quite deadly, it's also highly illegal in security work due to being classed as "excessive force" in most countries. Knowing this stuff does NOT give you the right to take someone's life JUST BECAUSE THEY GRAB OUR COLLAR OR LAPEL!
However..........in a war situation........
dobberdoss 8 months ago
omg if this guy forgot to turn his head!!!
thebeast780 8 months ago
Getting that right it not as simple as the man makes it look.
thomask365 9 months ago
wow keep making these videos this is dame good
devinwiggins7 9 months ago
Good stuff...instead up the palm strike you could also come up with a elbow.
ramrod20042000 9 months ago
this guy is just like my dad
colton12344321 9 months ago
That is some nasty whiplash I foresee there.
BEforSirius 10 months ago
why not a powerfull and deep uppercut instead of the clinchjab?
corporacionmonstruo 10 months ago
@corporacionmonstruo most peoples' fists aren't hardened enough to strike the jaw. a palm heel is alittle more realistic for the general public. plus with the palm heel you have the open hand to grab, rack the face/eyes mabey even pull hair, and ear, a piercing, or clothing. i'v always taught, soft to hard and hard to soft. palm would be soft, to strike the face which is hard. fist is hard, use it to strike the body which is soft.
GabrielGroverMan 9 months ago
If any drunk asshole fucks with me I got a 380 thats not even going to leave my jacket pocket before it kills him
WillyNoNuts 10 months ago
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Both of these faggots are craven american cowards, religious zealots and human garbage. They rape children and beat up old people. They need to both grow up and get real fucking jobs. Its typical of the american male to talk about, act out and pretend to have an enemy to punch out or beat up. Hey fellas maybe try to cure cancer while you are selling your "tough guy" videos. LOLamericanboysLOL
699backstab 1 year ago
@699backstab Well now we know SOMEONE got his ass kicked by an American when he was little.
tywainwright1 11 months ago
@699backstab Get yourself some help
TheZappmann 11 months ago
Love it...
ASSBANG6969 1 year ago
SILAT.........!!
wiznuaji 1 year ago
omg the simulated attacker almost shits on his pants when he saw that hand right next to his face!
Kapitan234 1 year ago
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"Of all the things I could do, that's the most damaging", so I'm gonna show it to 14 year olds on youtube. Wunnerful, real responsible.
specom 1 year ago
"Of all the things Icould do, that's the most damaging", so I'm gonna show it to 14 year olds on youtube. Wunnerful, real responsible.
specom 1 year ago
@specom Tbh, I'd show it to 14 year olds, if you know about how damaging it is then as a 14 year old you don't go out to kill someone and maybe you will think twice about it.
stokie22 1 year ago
@stokie22 Well, I don't know how old you are but you are giving 14 year olds a hell of a lot more credit than I do. I see far too many so-called adults who want to learn how to kill and maim people then run around looking for opportunities to use it and claim it was "self defense".
specom 1 year ago
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@specom I am a 14 year old and I don't see any reason to steriotype.
tywainwright1 11 months ago
I recognize this, especially since he mentioned Fairbairne (like Gerber knife named after). look it up, that upward palm-strike is meant to break the spine/neck,
KAZUSHIKIMINOUE 1 year ago
'Gonna break his neck, - don't know'.
Jehu30 1 year ago
this is real street self defense, no rules.
Fightingman69 1 year ago 2
I worry that the hand may miss the chin, I guess it will at least clip the chin.
But my next worry is the fingers may get hit.
bushidolovecock 1 year ago
@bushidolovecock miss with the hand? strike with the elbow! I love this guy's 1 shot takedowns
NonDairyYogurt 1 year ago
yea sure...an open hand uppercut is more dangerous than a fingers-to-throat punch? I cant believe it :S
immortaliserwow 1 year ago
I feel bad for this guy he always demonstrates on. lol
joesav9256 1 year ago 28
@joesav9256 thats jack he lives 4 it
pugnacious1one 11 months ago
@joesav9256 me to lol
darknessninja02 8 months ago
Kickass!!!
FireRose77 1 year ago
this is real fighting, this is so effective and so easy to learn, combatives are pure
joncamanei 1 year ago
crap technique
Billy12861 1 year ago
@Billy12861 maybe you did it wrong.
Abobojo 1 year ago
Has anyone actually ever tried this technique in a real fight? Because I have and I must say that in MY experience this chin jab technique is about as effective as a fart in a jar i.e. not very effective
Billy12861 1 year ago
this is way diffrent than a chin jab. a chin jab is ment to shock a person for the next power shot like a hook , or a cross or a hay maker the jab is also used to keep the distance between you and the other guy it is a very usfull tool when used correctly. this move is kind of like an uppercut using the force from you lunging forward using the angal to snap his hed back making his brain bang around in his skull if he had a loose neck and you did it hard enough you could do neck damage
nellynell77 1 year ago
In my opinion, this chin jab technique is a joke. Has anyone ever actually tried this technique in a real fight? I have used it twice with zero success.
Billy12861 1 year ago
this motherfucker cant fight, hes just complicating shit
1FuckedUpIndividual 2 years ago
@1FuckedUpIndividual You earned your screen name. What are you some 14 year old punk? For you to question a Marine Special Ops officer...you are a joke trying to talk tough. Just a little nobody.
TiminPhoenix 1 year ago
@TiminPhoenix Very true. "1fuckedupindividual" It seems has no clue to Kelly McCann's real life background and experience.
jpd782 1 year ago
U always know its a good one when u imagine it hittn u and get a bit freakd
TheZappmann 2 years ago
"Are you gonna kill the guy/break his neck? I don't know" that is probably the best, most intelligent and rational assesment of the outcome of doing a move like this one could say.
Some say "Oh hells yeah, it'll kill 'em" Others "Pfft-no it's a myth it won't 'ever' kill them actually".
I't like Marc "Animal" MacYoung always says about things like this .."It depends..."
Abobojo 2 years ago 3
this move is excellent i am currently teaching it to my wife . great videos , possible the best videos on youtube . hoping to get more of your dvds for crimbo .
happy holidays
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francokrav 2 years ago 2
billy u dont knock out somebody by breaking ur hand and his chin...
u ko sb by shaking the head
eahuso 2 years ago
holy shit.He takes the bullshit out of martial arts
NewZealfighter 2 years ago 34
@NewZealfighter and you took the words outta my mouth.
Take this guy's stuff over Jim Wagner's any f'n day.
Abobojo 1 year ago
@NewZealfighter - exactly! isn't that great?
jogobonito1234 6 months ago
I agree that open hand strikes are easier to learn and deliver with accuracy under stress and pose less risk of injury to your own hand, but in my experience the open hand strike doesn't compare to the closed fist in terms of power when it comes to KOing someone trying to take your head off.
Billy13024 2 years ago
its the heal of your hand (hard & harder to break than your fist)) striking foward and underneath their chin. The aim here is to snap their neck backwards, once he is falling backwards hes yours, he might hurt himself on the way down or you keep attacking if you are up against someone who is trying to seriously fuck you up.
zzsharka 2 years ago
hybrid combatives, I agree with everything you have stated. But when it comes to knockout power, think about it mate, which would you rather be struck hard in the face by: a good punch with the knuckles or the heel of the hand?
I know which one I would rather be struck with.
Billy13024 2 years ago
certainly a clenched fist used as a fierce uppercut is a really good way to knock out an opponent, BUT as a defensive tactics tool without gloves on, the open hand chin jab offers a greater probability in an accurate delivery given that the clenched fist and uppercut are trained with equal time and effort.
I work in the security field and am a Krav Maga and Kali instructor. As A TRAINER and ex-operator of the US Marine Corps you can trust Mr.Mccann's information.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 2 years ago 4
billy you couldn't be farther from the truth. The chin jab allows an "instinctive" fast motion of the empy hand to combine a seizing apparatus with an accelerated strike ( ie the hand eye coordination of grabbing a doorknob vs. punching a doorknob). Your reactive targetting will be better with an open hand than a clenched fist, as a "fist" is a taught/learned response;wherein an open hand requires no secondary motor skill action (clenching).
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 2 years ago 4
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Mongoose have you ever tried a chin jab before, punches cause about 50 times more damage than chin jabs do. Shut the fuck up, Ok. I'm no idiot.
Billy13024 2 years ago
when he demonstrated it, it was so close
thebeatlesrule5 2 years ago
*lowers voice* turn your head to the side man
Smapla 2 years ago
Badger, disrespectful comments like those u just said about me aren't appreciated, and I happen to know a fair bit about fighting actually.
Billy13024 2 years ago
LOL@ you bitching about "disrespectful" comments. You're an idiot.
Full-force chin-jabs fuck people up bad.
IronMongoose1 2 years ago 2
Any opinions of the chin jab and it's effectiveness would be appreciated
Billy13024 2 years ago
Billy, The chin jab is a tried and true effective technique. As with most defensive tactics it takes proper instruction and practice to create proper force. If you throw any technique wrong it will not transfer force to its target. Also adding Dempsey"s falling step (When he explains how you launch of the back foot) will allow you to hit with your whole body and not just your arm. You tried this once in a "Street Fight" and did not execute it properly. It is in fact VERY effective.
JDUB9471 2 years ago 2
in my experience the chin jab is a lame technique that is hard to land properly and lacks knockout power. The only advantage the chin jab has over a clenched fist is that you are less likely to injure your hand upon contact.
Billy13024 2 years ago
billy13024 your full of shit and you have not got a clue about fighting. why would they teach it to SF units if it did not work?? the chin jab works in conjunction with other fighting techniques i.e block a punch with your elbow and then simultaneously apply the chin jab. if you cant put some1 down with a chin jab then you need to take a good look at yourself and learn to fight
badger09876 2 years ago 4
You have to get REALLY close to have a chance of using this blow> I have used the chin jab twice as a pre emptive strike on the street and thug looked at me and said" why are u slapping". the blow landed full force with accuracy and the guy wasn't even hurt.
Billy13024 2 years ago
I've had a few streetfights in my life and I cannot see how this chin jab could be landed so that it caused any real damage. If someone can in swinging with a flurry of punches the chin jab would be impossible to land on the opponent
Billy13024 2 years ago
0:43 i thought he was gonna put his hand in his ball sack and squeeze
kkillar 2 years ago
lol " Most of the time he'll turn upside down" i don't wanna mess with him
Davit5MMA 2 years ago
man the thing about jim grover is that his stuff is simple and it makes sense. too bad he only teaches officers.
AgentCell 2 years ago
He only teaches officers? Are you sure?
Edalb123 2 years ago
as far as I know he selects civilians for self protection training after careful background analysis of the civilian and you have to be over 24 years old.
AgentCell 2 years ago
I see, that is what I figured. By any chance, did you have a way to contact him? I tried his website but I never got a response back from him.
Edalb123 2 years ago
I wouldn't know.
AgentCell 2 years ago
I did this 2 a kid in school and he went down so fast I couldn't believe it. Thanks. good vid
p.s. the kid was fine
ghettozeph1r 3 years ago
"rapidly articulate his head..."
sweatshopayeleein 3 years ago 2
Fairbairn students will want to know that course lesson plans from Camp X were declassified a few years ago and are now in print. They contain notes critiquing a few of the moves detailed in the "Get Tough" manual.
1Gator596 3 years ago
Great Video! I understand the need to describe this as a serious/dangerous technique, but I doubt if the aggressor would ever have a "slack neck" when he grabs your lapel unless he is a really cool customer. Fairbairn advocated this move for putting guys down and then finishing them off with kicks and stomps - but then again that was in wartime.
1Gator596 3 years ago 3
the tighter the neck the more damage its gonna do to his spine. and its probably gonna knock his teeth out.
Nukedeuce 2 years ago