My Perspective: Fr. Frank Pavone Speaks Out (part 1 of 2)

[Water4Jeremiah]

Now that I think about it. Frank Pavone is a hurting puppy. Can you imagine dedicating your life to something that isn't real - and then only to be rejected by your own imaginings?

I tried Jesus you know. But Jesus is just too boring. Jesus never had sex and was a pussy that let the Romans crucify him. I'd rather worship Thor - Thor is the god of lightning. It's pretty obvious that my god kicks more ass and gets more chicks than the one you worship. Try Thor for a change, he's awesome.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

But your comment reveals that you are not an atheist for any intellectual reason. Like I was, you are only an atheist because of your deficient views on sexual activity. Your comment reveals this. "Jesus never had sex".

Now once you grow up and start to really ponder the biological realities of human sexual anatomy and reproductive cells, you'll realize that sex is for marriage and promiscuity spreads STDs.

Isn't abortion the greatest insult to natural selection?

[Water4Jeremiah]

@CatholicAmerican I'm just going to respond to the sex thing. You said "once you grow up and start to really ponder..." Are you Frank Pavone? I say this because you sound just like a virgin. Pondering sex is waay different than having sex. Believe it or not animals in the wild dont get married. And it's easy to prevent STDs - use a condom during intercourse or a dental dam during cunnilingus.

I just don't feel guilty about having sex :) Must drive a celebate priest nuts with jealousy haha.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

what was I saying about posturing and insult?

no, i'm not fr. frank. funny you should ask, i'm sitting here in the hospital with my new born, one handedly, exposing your inconsistency.

but your horrible attempt at a character attack aside, how does virginity disqualify a person from having a comprehensive understanding of human reproduction, sexual anatomy, and the purpose and function of reproductive cells?

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

I don't feel guilty about having sex either only I'm coherently aware that my sexual behavior is intellectually consistent with observable biological reality of my anatomy and reproductive cells. It is also consistent with the natural fact that promiscuity among humans spreads disease among humans. You don't need to be religious to recognize that nature (pardon the anthropomorphism) frowns on human promiscuity.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

Sorry to point out yet another inconsistency, but hey, you typed it in a public place of scrutiny.

How can you talk about animals having unmarried sex in the wild and then talk about condoms in the same comment? Show me a picture of a monkey putting a condom on in the wild before sex and I'll change my thinking on the unnatural implications and disastrous effects of using condoms. Homosapiens are not your average animal by a long shot. Study some taxonomy charts.

[Water4Jeremiah]

@CatholicAmerican Shoo shoo, I already won our little debate. Because talking to someone who enjoys wild sex outside marriage won't qualify you as having the same experience, no matter how much you boast about your imaginary friend's opinions.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

You're a coward, practicing self delusion. You have engaged very little substance in my comments and have relied solely on ad-hominem posturing.

You honestly think you "already won". Nice try child. This isn't a middle school playground. Posturing only makes you come off as ignorant.

[Water4Jeremiah]

@CatholicAmerican Proverbs 17:28

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

So are you really wise and discerning or are you just hoping to appear to be?

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

When someone asks you a direct question and you respond with a character attack. There's no perception of wise and discerning then now is there?

Are you trying to construct a false reality of your conduct here?

[Water4Jeremiah]

@CatholicAmerican If you had wisdom and discernment, I am pretty sure you never would have needed to ask the question.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

I don't make the wind blow.

What I have doesn't stop the night from coming and the morning from rising.

Just because you think life is all about you doesn't mean that I think life is all about me.

I'm faithful to science and God. My will power doesn't give birth to scientific principles but I can observe the real world and learn physics and the function of all things.

You shouldn't be so afraid of others scrutinizing your world view. Scrutiny refines what men know to be True.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

I'm a homosapient which means I have an intellectual capacity that reaches further than other animals on earth. Wisdom loves scrutiny because scrutiny reveals Truth. If you are going to scrutinize theists then scrutinize. What you have done here only serves to distract from the pursuit of knowledge. ad-hominem is unproductive.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

Look, I haven't I gone to lengths to try and appeal to your intellect? Yes, yes I have and that. Scrutinizing your words is not meant to push you down but rather to pull you up out of error. If you cling to something that is false then isn't it an act of charity for someone to point that out to you?

Scrutinize everything. The Catholic Church has been the only institution in history that invites ferocious scrutiny. That's Why I converted. They answer scrutiny, they don't posture.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

Do you have an intellect that I can engage? If so, please let it out of it's box. There's a real world to debate here. I don't have time for your self justification of a demonstrably erroneous world view.

[Water4Jeremiah]

@CatholicAmerican Matthew 7:6

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

My wife, who just delivered a baby, would like me to inquire weather or not you realize that animals do not have the capacity to realize consequences of actions.

I would like to add to that note the observation of animals eating their young. Should we serve up our baby? Or is that objectively wrong and disordered behavior?

Do wild animals in the wild scribe laws that navigate and highlight right and wrong? From where does this peculiar behavior come from?

Conscience is God-born.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

Isn't it ironic for an atheist to use a word like "guilt"? If God doesn't exist then guilt doesn't exist. Now, I'm not going to argue that because there is guilt, there must be God, what I am going to argue is that atheist "intellectuals" make no effort to explain how homosapiens have evolved a capacity for guilt. Care to take a crack at it? And maybe then explain how reason and order can come from disorder and chaos. So far, a Creator is the only plausible explanation.

[Water4Jeremiah]

Mixing sex, politics, and religion always ends well doesn't it.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

I think this will end very well. God's Church has an amazing ability to vindicate honesty and transparency, where as the secular world so consistently exploits transparency in efforts to destroy the actions of rival world views.

[Water4Jeremiah]

@CatholicAmerican O_o But since god doesn't exist don't you think what you said is completely the opposite? The whole point of Christianity is to exploit transparency to keep people thinking that human beings can actually resurrect from the dead. I actually have no problem with that, it's just funny what you just said is the exact opposite of how it really is.

[CatholicAmerican]

@Water4Jeremiah

Do you pretend that you willed yourself into existence?

Do you pretend that order and reason come from chaos and chance?

You see, I converted from atheism to Catholicism because, as I'm sure you know, atheists do not have any answers to existence, they posture and insult as if they did but they never provide answers.

Your comments are intellectually insulting. Can't you type a narrative that someone else didn't think up for you?