@strawberryrainbow You do realize she does fouette turns right? How many elites do that on FX!? Do you see her posture, her fingers always pointed? The leap series at 0:48? How she stands in ballet positions?
@strawberryrainbow How could you even say that? She had one of the best first tumbling passes ever and yet all I ever focus on in her routine are her dance positions. She has such beautiful extension, lines, and choice of positions, it's really tough to miss. One of the most complete floor performers ever.
@strawberryrainbow yeah like...................um............Shushunova...thats it...she was at this olympics too..gosh it helps to watch the rest of the competition lol just so your opinion doesn't become a wrong statement.
es excelente y se llama como yo! woow que honor! yo pense que mi nombre era solo para hispano hablantes y que no se usaba en otros lugares tan lejanos pero veo que si se usa y no solo con los que hablan español! (^.^)
If the soviet union lasted till this olympics lol..what a team that would be...Dina, Khorkina, Bogi, Lilia, Chisovitna, Galieva...that would have been unstoppable. that was only 6 so throw anybody else you want in there lol.
@scholar300 In all kindness I ask, why do you think Dawes should have won gold? (I am curious of your thoughts). She didn't have close to the strength/artistry Pod had or the tumbling that Amanar had,
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Lilias presentation was really good but the only pass that she didnt stumble out of was her 1st pass and that was even short. In my opinion Dawes presentation was just as good and not only was her tumbling world class but she nailed every landing.
@scholar300 I didn't see her stumble on any of her passes but her third and I believe she did that on purpose, out of artistry, I have never seen her do a floor routine without that. Dawes struggled with major form issues throughout her career ( knees apart, feet flexed, legs crossed/cowboyed etc.) where as Lilia's toe point and locked out legs/upper body was famous . To be very honest and maybe slightly harsh I thought Amanar had better presentation than Dawes.
@gymnasticsloverxoxo We agree again, respect to all these gymnasts at this incredibly difficult high level, but i really hated watching Dawes bow legged, butch excuse for gymnastics.......
@scholar300 Her tumbling was fine but her style and form, and artistry, were hideous..... Dominique was a great powerhouse of a gymnast but she was not a dancer nor 'beautiful' to watch.
Of all the amazing gymnasts in the world, if it were not for Lilia Podkopayeva I would never be able to pick a favorite, lilypod is my absolute favorite :-)
The thing I love most about her is that she can do something someone like her usually can't do.
What I mean is, it's usually the tall and skinny gymnasts, like Nastia, that are elegant & stylish. Obviously, Lilia's not in the shape of Nastia or anyone like Nastia, but she still is elegant & stylish :]
well, there were some beautiful romanian and e. german gymnastics in the 80s... but a lot of them didn't have the incredible athletic ability she also has
whoever said her dancing is overrated is crazy!! her lines are the best i think gymnastics has seen since like... the 60's. her line is absolutely perfect (this coming from a pre-professional ballerina!), shes graceful, and each movement is filled with artistry, performed to the fullest. of course, her perfect body proportions helped the line part....
true her technique and lines are great...but this is not great choreography for what she was capable of with those lines and techniques..this looks like a routine one of my level 7s should be performing not the Olympic champion
very often, gymnasts who have a lot of difficult tumbles on floor will have ppl shouting and screaming after every difficult tumbles. but for those who have very artistic routines, the audience won't reli kinda scream or shout, they just watch, but when the routines end, they clap and shout and scream like crazy. that's the charisma of the art of the sport.
So someone please tell me (because I really can't tell). Who is better Nadia Comaneci or Lilia Podkopayeva? Lilia's routine looks WAY harder than Nadia's.
The two are really not people you can compare. In the 76, Nadia was the best, no doubt about it. Back then, gymnastics tended to be easier. Also, the floor had no springs, so tumbling was much harder. By today's standards, Lilia is much better. Her tumbling is much more difficult. But she is from a generation with more difficulty. The sport evolved a lot since (and because of) Nadia. Today, in this code, Lilia would be better, for a straight answer.
Umm why did you send me a message with a bunch of question marks. If you looked more carefully you would see that someone already answered my question.
To give you all an idea of just how difficult the Podkopayeva element is, just think of this: the double front half out is used as a DISMOUNT from bars, also one of the most difficult mens vaults in the world, the Dragulescu(after Marian Dragulescu) is a double front half out. Nobody else has done a double front salto with a half twist in the second salto as a floor skill before Lilia or since. Go figure;)
@ralucagymnast thats because FIG stupidly ranked it an E element along with a regular double front, and a double arabian...so why take the extra risk if its worth the same...very sad
Lilia's dancing was IMO overrated, sure it was nice. But her tumbling was way underrated. That first tumbling pass -- I haven't seen any gymnast attempt it. She makes it seem easy. She just flies across the floor.
ITA-Simona was a great tumbler, but sorely lacking in the artistic department-though she did try very hard to improve that aspect on floor especially at the end of her great career. I think it's sweet the way Simona tried to smile more in her floor routine at Sydney. Lilia maybe had the 'prettier' moves but Simona sure could fly! But back to Lilia-that first tumbling pass of hers is awesomeness-every year I hope some gymnasts rocks it out in their routine but alas no one else has tried th 'Pod'.
Am I the only one that doesn't get this routine? I mean it's good, double front half out, gorgeous toe point, but I'm not entirely sold on the dance. Everyone says the dance is the best in history, and even their friends who don't know gymnastics love it to death. But I don't feel the music. I just don't get it! The 80s gymnasts definitely worked the music way better.
I know it's up to personal preference though. I admire her for taking time to do chereography.
As with Daniella Silivas, it's so easy with her to concentrate on the dance and expressiveness that one almost overlooks the level of difficulty. To me, this event final should be positive proof that there's room in gymnastics for more than one type--Lilia with her lovely dance, Simona the high octane actrobat, and Dominique who had a nice blend of both were all on the medal stand.
@gymnast768 I know; to pull a doublefront half out from it is astounding and seemingly impossible XD; maybe thats why nobody has tried it since Lilia! Truly astonishing.
I miss her beautiful artistry. She ingeniously combined power with dance, and no gymnast will ever be able to match it (especially with NO ONE attempting the double front with a half twist in the last flip, lol)
This was by far the most complete floor routine. Artistic and well as athletic. She was and is an acrobatic ballerina. As a coach, my only wish is to get my athletes to use true choreography and not just random movements in between tumbling passes.
It's mostly on beam that the skills have changed incredibly. Not floor. But you should read the interview when they asked Shannon Miller about Shawn Johnson. And they aren't really ALLOWED to be creative to the extent they used to be anymore because the scoring system changed and they have to do more skills. I really do wish they brought back the choreography though.
Love this floor exercise . . . this was artistry and athletic ability all wrapped into one . . . this was probably the stand out performance at the games . . . everyone remembers the music it was a complete artistic routine from top to bottom . . . Enjoy!
No offense to anyone....i just wanted to say that during this time this WAS the big tumbling. What gymnasts do now has come so far. I mean Shannon Miller said it in an interview about Shawn Johnson....they never dreamed of doing something like that.
I know it's big. They were just comparing her to other gymnasts and i'm just saying half the skills that Shawn and Nastia do now weren't invented back then. I love Lila personally.
What skills on floor that Shawn and Nastia do now weren't invented back then? Double doubles have been done since the 80's. Whip triple twist? Became big after the 96' era. Everyone ended with a full-in back then.
I have to respectfully disagree. This pass was an "E" element back then. Now it's an "F" I believe. This was just one big opening pass. There were many big passes. Double layouts, full twisting double layouts. As for double doubles those were being done in the 80's. Whip triple twist and front thru to triple twist were done a lot. As for ending with a full-in? Shannon ended with a full-in herself. Back in 91-92 Gutsu and Bontas ended their floor routines with double layouts.
wow, spectacular, though the score was inflated.. I would have given it the gold, but now more than 9.850, especially with the bounce out on one of her passes. Is it just me, or does anyone else think lilia had the potential to do a triple front. the way she links those fhs's is amazing, has anyone done it before.
I just love the haters that talk all this shit but in reality probably cant any do this themselves hahaha shut the fuck up bitches they all went to the olympics u didnt stop hating. lifes to short
no one does the double fronts as Lilia, are just gorgeous, that's the way a doble front looks like, I'm sad that there aren't more gymnasts like lilia, gymnastics would be more beatiful to watch...
It's brilliant, because she doesn't cowboy her double-front, half-out! But she sometimes does with her doub le front :(, this performance was impeccable! XD
Nastia just has that Russian dance thing going 'cause her Russian parents coach her. Expresive ballet style lines and all that. But Nastia is no where near Liliya's elegance and caliber. Her cowboyed fronts look awful and so do her spastic hands on beam.
If you watch all the gymnasts on this final, they all provide "cookie cutter" routines, they almost all look the same until you see this one....a breath of fresh air for a different and more difficult routine
The scores were often scaled in the EF's. Amanar scored a 9.850 previously, so considering I thought that Podkopayeva's floor was much better than Amanar's floor, I think that score was about right.
Really? Scaled during that era of gymnastics where the scoring was very tough? Thats seems very strange. But yes I love this routine it it definitely deserved gold. Also do u know is her starting pose just standing normally in the corner?
Her win is unquestionable but I agree that 9.887 is too much for this routine. Maybe it's because Lilia was one of the last ones to go. And since Simona got a 9.850, maybe the judges had to boost her scores to separate her better routine from Amanar's.
If I had it my way I would have tied both Amanar and Podkopayeva for gold because I think their strengths and weakness cancels each other out. Amanar - amazing tumbling + crummy dance; Podkopayeva - excellent presentation + cheap tumbling passes.
Since when did a double front half out, which, I remind you has never been performed since, equate to 'cheap tumpling'? I agree that Amanar's tumbling was superior, but Lilia's was very strong and her dance wiped the fricking floor with Amanar's. I loved Dawes's routine actually, despite Amanar's strengthv in her back tumbling, I'd have had her in third.
Yes the double front - half out was impressive. But what about her next tumbling passes? A bounder - front full, a Rudi, and tucked full-in (which was being done by virtually all of the floor specialists, and top AAers that time)?
For me the "Podkopayeva" is one of the most underrated skills by the COP. But overall, Lilia's tumbling was relatively weak.
When you think that Lila's doublefront half-out is actually used as a dismount on uneven bars, and is done by only the best gymnasts, this gives you an idea of just how enormously difficult this must be to do it on floor. I would say this is the most difficult element ever done in womens floor exercises, and the fact she does it from a fronthandpring, bounder/flyspring makes it even more amazing.
I haven't seen anyone since Lilia do that particular pass front flip flop, front handspring, double front/half. It's named after her in the code of points. :)
Yep. Nobody dared to compete that skill let alone land it. I know it takes away the blind landing, but I hope the Podkopayeva was worth more than an E.
I agree -- on floor at least. I understand why the double front and double front half out is both worth E in the UB. But on floor I believe the double front half out should be rated higher.
Podkopayeva mastered in the double front, and I just love that the double front half is her own skill and that no one has really tried to attempt it in competition since.
A Podkopayeva, (I still retain) is the hardest skill ever performed in women's gymnastics besides the Dos Santos, so the Podkopayeva is just a magnificent skill that just about no-one can even dare to land on their feet...
But if you can do both a Podkopayeva and a double arabian... A double Arabian, only because it is a front landing rather than a back landing...
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strawberryrainbow 3 months ago
@strawberryrainbow Did you even watch her routine...?
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strawberryrainbow 2 months ago
@strawberryrainbow You do realize she does fouette turns right? How many elites do that on FX!? Do you see her posture, her fingers always pointed? The leap series at 0:48? How she stands in ballet positions?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 2 months ago
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strawberryrainbow 2 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 lol i think for once we agree
ccaruso81 2 months ago
@ccaruso81 I guess so...?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 2 months ago
@strawberryrainbow How could you even say that? She had one of the best first tumbling passes ever and yet all I ever focus on in her routine are her dance positions. She has such beautiful extension, lines, and choice of positions, it's really tough to miss. One of the most complete floor performers ever.
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strawberryrainbow 2 months ago
@strawberryrainbow yeah like...................um............Shushunova...thats it...she was at this olympics too..gosh it helps to watch the rest of the competition lol just so your opinion doesn't become a wrong statement.
LCAmarkymark 2 months ago
es excelente y se llama como yo! woow que honor! yo pense que mi nombre era solo para hispano hablantes y que no se usaba en otros lugares tan lejanos pero veo que si se usa y no solo con los que hablan español! (^.^)
LilitaEsperanza07 5 months ago
Her dance and elegance makes me forgive how much I hate this music.
ccaruso81 5 months ago 2
@ccaruso81 haha couldnt agree more.
BlairHime 5 months ago
Her music is so cute! It sounds like it came out of a Disney princess movie. I can never get tired of her routines either because of her artistry.
enjoybinky 7 months ago
@cherylannemason thats how it kinda was in 2008 sandra isbaza can dance and tumble shawn was just tumble mumble and nastia was very graceful
msms68 8 months ago
one of the greatest floor routines EVER choreographed! outstanding
wicklandtube 9 months ago 7
9.9 - 1st place.
DC205504 10 months ago
@DC205504 Actually is was a 9.987 but still first place. I think she should have gotten a 9.9 though!
gymnasticsloverxoxo 8 months ago
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Both of us are off -- it was a 9.887 which is what you probably meant!! Thanks for keeping me honest.
DC205504 8 months ago
@DC205504 haha you're right! my bad I meant to write that
gymnasticsloverxoxo 8 months ago
Terrific! Glad to see different countries on top for once, though I do love Russia, China, kind of USA and of course Romania.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 1 year ago 2
gold deserved her!!! the first time i saw lilia i thought she was a magician!!! but, it was too bad dawes couldn't win gold neither moceanu.
amwanjiru 1 year ago 2
Just fantastic!
brdbarreira 1 year ago
yea...i don't think gymnasts today can EFF with this level of talent/skill....she was simply magnificent
kurojin97 1 year ago
@millerowns that would have been so crazy lol..soviet domination still lol
LCAmarkymark 1 year ago
If the soviet union lasted till this olympics lol..what a team that would be...Dina, Khorkina, Bogi, Lilia, Chisovitna, Galieva...that would have been unstoppable. that was only 6 so throw anybody else you want in there lol.
LCAmarkymark 1 year ago 3
amo a esta mujer siempre fue mi sueño es hermosisima la veia en cada evento ella era la mejor del mundo
imanbck 1 year ago
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xxlozziexx231 1 year ago
This girl had the whole package - seriously, not a bad event! Probably my favorite gymnast ever.
girlcandream 1 year ago
Lilias first pass was awesome but I still believe that Dawes should've won the gold.
scholar300 1 year ago
@scholar300 Omg are you kidding me? Lilia smashed it in every event, she was clearly the outstanding gymnast
WASP021 1 year ago
@WASP021 Uhh no...lol Im referring to Floor Finals, and on Lilias 2nd pass she clearly damn near leaped out of bounds. Dawes Stuck all her landings.
scholar300 1 year ago
@scholar300 In all kindness I ask, why do you think Dawes should have won gold? (I am curious of your thoughts). She didn't have close to the strength/artistry Pod had or the tumbling that Amanar had,
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Lilias presentation was really good but the only pass that she didnt stumble out of was her 1st pass and that was even short. In my opinion Dawes presentation was just as good and not only was her tumbling world class but she nailed every landing.
scholar300 1 year ago
@scholar300 I didn't see her stumble on any of her passes but her third and I believe she did that on purpose, out of artistry, I have never seen her do a floor routine without that. Dawes struggled with major form issues throughout her career ( knees apart, feet flexed, legs crossed/cowboyed etc.) where as Lilia's toe point and locked out legs/upper body was famous . To be very honest and maybe slightly harsh I thought Amanar had better presentation than Dawes.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago
@gymnasticsloverxoxo We agree again, respect to all these gymnasts at this incredibly difficult high level, but i really hated watching Dawes bow legged, butch excuse for gymnastics.......
tomsk14 1 year ago
@scholar300 Her tumbling was fine but her style and form, and artistry, were hideous..... Dominique was a great powerhouse of a gymnast but she was not a dancer nor 'beautiful' to watch.
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geishasecrets 1 year ago
Of all the amazing gymnasts in the world, if it were not for Lilia Podkopayeva I would never be able to pick a favorite, lilypod is my absolute favorite :-)
Super429scj 1 year ago
Dreadful syntho music but she made it work--what an amazing dancer and tumbler! Miss her.
NYCBlonde 1 year ago
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i want to be just like her! beautiful! my absolute fave!
lilypod3 1 year ago
i want to be just like her! beautiful! my absolute fave!
lilypod3 1 year ago
how old was she?
LiliaA666 1 year ago
@LiliaA666 17
falc1001 1 year ago
The first pass is outrageous!!
glenndelossantos15 1 year ago
Wow! I stil believe in gimnastics, after Olga and Nadia!
DanoisBleu 1 year ago
anna pavlova is definately like her
sampeszekfan 2 years ago 2
The thing I love most about her is that she can do something someone like her usually can't do.
What I mean is, it's usually the tall and skinny gymnasts, like Nastia, that are elegant & stylish. Obviously, Lilia's not in the shape of Nastia or anyone like Nastia, but she still is elegant & stylish :]
TwisterFlipp95 2 years ago 2
i love it when a gymnast balances artistry and power
MRdavenport2010 2 years ago
well, there were some beautiful romanian and e. german gymnastics in the 80s... but a lot of them didn't have the incredible athletic ability she also has
shadyshine14 2 years ago
What about Silivas? Throwing the double double was pretty badass.
markedexclusive 2 years ago
whoever said her dancing is overrated is crazy!! her lines are the best i think gymnastics has seen since like... the 60's. her line is absolutely perfect (this coming from a pre-professional ballerina!), shes graceful, and each movement is filled with artistry, performed to the fullest. of course, her perfect body proportions helped the line part....
shadyshine14 2 years ago 4
true her technique and lines are great...but this is not great choreography for what she was capable of with those lines and techniques..this looks like a routine one of my level 7s should be performing not the Olympic champion
dahighbar 2 years ago
very often, gymnasts who have a lot of difficult tumbles on floor will have ppl shouting and screaming after every difficult tumbles. but for those who have very artistic routines, the audience won't reli kinda scream or shout, they just watch, but when the routines end, they clap and shout and scream like crazy. that's the charisma of the art of the sport.
yellowbanana104 2 years ago
So someone please tell me (because I really can't tell). Who is better Nadia Comaneci or Lilia Podkopayeva? Lilia's routine looks WAY harder than Nadia's.
Stonymypony 2 years ago
The two are really not people you can compare. In the 76, Nadia was the best, no doubt about it. Back then, gymnastics tended to be easier. Also, the floor had no springs, so tumbling was much harder. By today's standards, Lilia is much better. Her tumbling is much more difficult. But she is from a generation with more difficulty. The sport evolved a lot since (and because of) Nadia. Today, in this code, Lilia would be better, for a straight answer.
javajunkie6 2 years ago 5
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sesannejeremie 2 years ago
Umm why did you send me a message with a bunch of question marks. If you looked more carefully you would see that someone already answered my question.
Stonymypony 2 years ago
To give you all an idea of just how difficult the Podkopayeva element is, just think of this: the double front half out is used as a DISMOUNT from bars, also one of the most difficult mens vaults in the world, the Dragulescu(after Marian Dragulescu) is a double front half out. Nobody else has done a double front salto with a half twist in the second salto as a floor skill before Lilia or since. Go figure;)
ralucagymnast 2 years ago 11
@ralucagymnast thats because FIG stupidly ranked it an E element along with a regular double front, and a double arabian...so why take the extra risk if its worth the same...very sad
LCAmarkymark 2 months ago
Lilia's dancing was IMO overrated, sure it was nice. But her tumbling was way underrated. That first tumbling pass -- I haven't seen any gymnast attempt it. She makes it seem easy. She just flies across the floor.
growsonwalls 2 years ago
ITA-Simona was a great tumbler, but sorely lacking in the artistic department-though she did try very hard to improve that aspect on floor especially at the end of her great career. I think it's sweet the way Simona tried to smile more in her floor routine at Sydney. Lilia maybe had the 'prettier' moves but Simona sure could fly! But back to Lilia-that first tumbling pass of hers is awesomeness-every year I hope some gymnasts rocks it out in their routine but alas no one else has tried th 'Pod'.
faeryquene 2 years ago
yeah they suck. thankfully shes a gymnast and not a ballerina =)
lotus8998 2 years ago
yeahhh.. amazing routine, but i HATE the music.
lotus8998 2 years ago
Am I the only one that doesn't get this routine? I mean it's good, double front half out, gorgeous toe point, but I'm not entirely sold on the dance. Everyone says the dance is the best in history, and even their friends who don't know gymnastics love it to death. But I don't feel the music. I just don't get it! The 80s gymnasts definitely worked the music way better.
I know it's up to personal preference though. I admire her for taking time to do chereography.
sqekcx 2 years ago 2
she is perfect that is why the routine is perfect it is about her not the routine
sochisochi 2 years ago 3
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seisouso 2 years ago
Those fouetté turns were a HORROR! Did you hear the Commentator in the beginning mention her great dance technique???!?
Wow!
TheAOGAC 2 years ago
I know, but what can you do with carpet other than hop? ;-)
Dunntosh 2 years ago 3
As with Daniella Silivas, it's so easy with her to concentrate on the dance and expressiveness that one almost overlooks the level of difficulty. To me, this event final should be positive proof that there's room in gymnastics for more than one type--Lilia with her lovely dance, Simona the high octane actrobat, and Dominique who had a nice blend of both were all on the medal stand.
cherylannemason 2 years ago 33
She is the master in front tumbling during that era.
Summonearth 2 years ago 4
sin duda es la mejor.......... es mi idola... excelente video
gamaxia 2 years ago
ES MI IDOLA.. MEXICO.
gamaxia 2 years ago
it AMAZES me how she can get SO much power out of a bounder!!!! i useds to struggle getting a PIKED FRONT around out of it. shes AMAZING.
gymnast768 2 years ago 2
@gymnast768 I know; to pull a doublefront half out from it is astounding and seemingly impossible XD; maybe thats why nobody has tried it since Lilia! Truly astonishing.
ralucagymnast 1 year ago
She has Nastia legs, or should i say, Nastia has Podkopayeva legs!!! Except Lilia's are more built, anyways, love them both!!!
ZuntaXD 2 years ago 2
Wow!!!....that was flawless.
largec 2 years ago
I miss her beautiful artistry. She ingeniously combined power with dance, and no gymnast will ever be able to match it (especially with NO ONE attempting the double front with a half twist in the last flip, lol)
saltlakecity2002 2 years ago 50
Yes, you're right! Since her, I didn't see any gymnast performing a double front with a half twist. She had the power!
danielcnsilva 2 years ago 4
that's because the lilpod is the only person who doesn't cowboy it beyond recognition (cough Liukin cough Worley)
NonMatchingUnderwear 2 years ago 10
This was by far the most complete floor routine. Artistic and well as athletic. She was and is an acrobatic ballerina. As a coach, my only wish is to get my athletes to use true choreography and not just random movements in between tumbling passes.
MNGYM26 2 years ago 9
It's mostly on beam that the skills have changed incredibly. Not floor. But you should read the interview when they asked Shannon Miller about Shawn Johnson. And they aren't really ALLOWED to be creative to the extent they used to be anymore because the scoring system changed and they have to do more skills. I really do wish they brought back the choreography though.
ajohns92 2 years ago 2
what interview was that?
botroyliz 2 years ago
I believe it was in people magazine.....not sure....
ajohns92 2 years ago
Love this floor exercise . . . this was artistry and athletic ability all wrapped into one . . . this was probably the stand out performance at the games . . . everyone remembers the music it was a complete artistic routine from top to bottom . . . Enjoy!
mquerol2002 2 years ago 5
I loved the fouettes. :)
MissyLovelyLady 2 years ago 3
Maravilhosa Podkopayeva....
excelente ginasta....
videoalei 2 years ago 2
No offense to anyone....i just wanted to say that during this time this WAS the big tumbling. What gymnasts do now has come so far. I mean Shannon Miller said it in an interview about Shawn Johnson....they never dreamed of doing something like that.
ajohns92 2 years ago 3
this IS big! who else does a double front half-out?
DuhustBus000 2 years ago
I know it's big. They were just comparing her to other gymnasts and i'm just saying half the skills that Shawn and Nastia do now weren't invented back then. I love Lila personally.
ajohns92 2 years ago
What skills on floor that Shawn and Nastia do now weren't invented back then? Double doubles have been done since the 80's. Whip triple twist? Became big after the 96' era. Everyone ended with a full-in back then.
MNGYM26 2 years ago
I have to respectfully disagree. This pass was an "E" element back then. Now it's an "F" I believe. This was just one big opening pass. There were many big passes. Double layouts, full twisting double layouts. As for double doubles those were being done in the 80's. Whip triple twist and front thru to triple twist were done a lot. As for ending with a full-in? Shannon ended with a full-in herself. Back in 91-92 Gutsu and Bontas ended their floor routines with double layouts.
MNGYM26 2 years ago 3
wow, spectacular, though the score was inflated.. I would have given it the gold, but now more than 9.850, especially with the bounce out on one of her passes. Is it just me, or does anyone else think lilia had the potential to do a triple front. the way she links those fhs's is amazing, has anyone done it before.
DuhustBus000 2 years ago 5
I just love the haters that talk all this shit but in reality probably cant any do this themselves hahaha shut the fuck up bitches they all went to the olympics u didnt stop hating. lifes to short
ajhornell 2 years ago 2
well nastia isn't as strong remember
liukin95 2 years ago
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wolfejimmyy 3 years ago
My coach coached her!
MeganLMueller 3 years ago
no one does the double fronts as Lilia, are just gorgeous, that's the way a doble front looks like, I'm sad that there aren't more gymnasts like lilia, gymnastics would be more beatiful to watch...
Shatzi015 3 years ago 3
You mean the double-front, half-out? Lilia is the only gymnast who has performed that at a major competition.
QueenieQue 3 years ago
No, I know that, I mean the form is beatiful...
Shatzi015 3 years ago
It's brilliant, because she doesn't cowboy her double-front, half-out! But she sometimes does with her doub le front :(, this performance was impeccable! XD
willsbob123 3 years ago
Well, there's Nastia Liukin?
willsbob123 2 years ago
No, no, Nastia is very graceful and elegant, but she cowboys her double front(sometimes more than others);)
Shatzi015 2 years ago
Well, so does Lilia in her double fronts, but in her double front-halfout she doesn't.
willsbob123 2 years ago
Yes, but Nastia's dismount from UB is a very cowboyed double front half out, so...
Shatzi015 2 years ago 2
Nastia just has that Russian dance thing going 'cause her Russian parents coach her. Expresive ballet style lines and all that. But Nastia is no where near Liliya's elegance and caliber. Her cowboyed fronts look awful and so do her spastic hands on beam.
Catyalina96 2 years ago 6
I'm agree
Shatzi015 2 years ago 3
i really love how she connects front handsprings together, ive never seen anyone do that before.
DuhustBus000 3 years ago 4
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kimxh 3 years ago
uh...this is classical...its from The Marriage of Figaro by Mozart...granted its jazzed up a little bit...but she is wonderful
miloandtock1 3 years ago
The first part is from the "Barber of Seville" by Rossini.
iczerman 3 years ago
I'll say it again - a beautiful Ukrainian ballerina!! The gymnastics world needs more like her. She was the true champion in 1996.
SonyaNatalia 3 years ago 3
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gymnasticsloverxoxo 3 years ago
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gymnasticsloverxoxo 3 years ago
I have not seen a better floor routine before her or since.....
SrhLun 3 years ago 4
If you watch all the gymnasts on this final, they all provide "cookie cutter" routines, they almost all look the same until you see this one....a breath of fresh air for a different and more difficult routine
SrhLun 3 years ago 2
Such polish!! Just beautiful to watch. Its also the first gymnast ive seen who did more forward tumbling than back
hinginator 3 years ago
did she medal??
willsbob123 3 years ago
She won the gold, with a score of 9.887.
She deserved the gold that night...
Dunntosh 3 years ago
Absolutely; she moves with such grace that it looks effortless. This is one of my favorite floor routines of all time.
QueenieQue 3 years ago 3
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gymnasticsloverxoxo 3 years ago
The scores were often scaled in the EF's. Amanar scored a 9.850 previously, so considering I thought that Podkopayeva's floor was much better than Amanar's floor, I think that score was about right.
Dunntosh 3 years ago 2
Really? Scaled during that era of gymnastics where the scoring was very tough? Thats seems very strange. But yes I love this routine it it definitely deserved gold. Also do u know is her starting pose just standing normally in the corner?
gymnasticsloverxoxo 3 years ago
From 1993-96, I think her FX's always started in the corner.
Dunntosh 3 years ago
Okay thanks
gymnasticsloverxoxo 3 years ago
Her win is unquestionable but I agree that 9.887 is too much for this routine. Maybe it's because Lilia was one of the last ones to go. And since Simona got a 9.850, maybe the judges had to boost her scores to separate her better routine from Amanar's.
If I had it my way I would have tied both Amanar and Podkopayeva for gold because I think their strengths and weakness cancels each other out. Amanar - amazing tumbling + crummy dance; Podkopayeva - excellent presentation + cheap tumbling passes.
ispaht 3 years ago
I agree but her tumbling isn't that cheap, it could have been better.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 3 years ago
Since when did a double front half out, which, I remind you has never been performed since, equate to 'cheap tumpling'? I agree that Amanar's tumbling was superior, but Lilia's was very strong and her dance wiped the fricking floor with Amanar's. I loved Dawes's routine actually, despite Amanar's strengthv in her back tumbling, I'd have had her in third.
LawrieMarlow 3 years ago 2
Yes the double front - half out was impressive. But what about her next tumbling passes? A bounder - front full, a Rudi, and tucked full-in (which was being done by virtually all of the floor specialists, and top AAers that time)?
For me the "Podkopayeva" is one of the most underrated skills by the COP. But overall, Lilia's tumbling was relatively weak.
ispaht 3 years ago
still remember the momnets that day watching her live on tv that was great and loved Lilia with this nice performance and lovely music
llmazen 3 years ago 2
The lovely Lili-Pod. Ain't she great?
krakenwave 3 years ago 2
I <3 THIS ROUTINE!!!!!!! :)
olympicfreak13 3 years ago
10!
minmeicwz 3 years ago
I love Lilia Podkopayeva!!
I wish I could meet her and talk to her. I'm not sure how well she speaks English and I don't speak Ukrainian :(
She is such an inspiration.
Wherever you are Lilia I wish you the best in the world you have given us such beautiful artistry with your talent! You are beautiful!
geishasecrets 3 years ago 2
Beautiful, artistic and elegant!
I love the Lilia Podkopayeva!
ryzardini 3 years ago 3
i think if she had stuck her 3rd pass, this may have been a 10, or very very close to it
gymfan06 3 years ago
LA ULTIMA GRAN REINA DE LA GIMNASIA
lordpanki 3 years ago
Her front handsprings are so perfect! Her interpretation of the song is flawless. Like ballet!
trichiem 3 years ago 7
she was one of my coaches at woodward :)
BDempsey37 3 years ago
really?? Lilia coached you???
wow
tchachinafan 3 years ago
This Is The BEST Floor Routine I've Ever Seen!A Well Deserved Gold Medal!
skategurl1102 3 years ago 4
beautiful!
anem1182 3 years ago
Lilia was incredible. Best ever and she blows away today's competition easily on the floor.
garneroutlaw 3 years ago 3
Even today I still remember her performance more than any others in any Olympics... the best ever, imo.
clerinda 3 years ago 4
Me too.
slcathena 3 years ago
So light on her feet. She's magnificent.
maikotsutsumi 3 years ago 4
When you think that Lila's doublefront half-out is actually used as a dismount on uneven bars, and is done by only the best gymnasts, this gives you an idea of just how enormously difficult this must be to do it on floor. I would say this is the most difficult element ever done in womens floor exercises, and the fact she does it from a fronthandpring, bounder/flyspring makes it even more amazing.
ralucagymnast 3 years ago
I totally agree! It's a shame that it's only an E skill! It should be an F at least!
Darkangel127 3 years ago
No. She is the only female gymnast to ever do that skill; doublefront halfout. Absolutely incredible.
ralucagymnast 3 years ago 2
¡increible!
quacmayer 3 years ago
so sad that she retired so early, what a dancer! She deserves her AA gold
angelahoho 3 years ago 3
One of the best floor exercises ever. I love it. :)
audie83 3 years ago 5
I haven't seen anyone since Lilia do that particular pass front flip flop, front handspring, double front/half. It's named after her in the code of points. :)
audie83 3 years ago 2
Yep. Nobody dared to compete that skill let alone land it. I know it takes away the blind landing, but I hope the Podkopayeva was worth more than an E.
ispaht 3 years ago 3
both podkopaeva's are Es, but i think the double front half should be worth more than just the double front.
mistybabe5489 3 years ago 2
I agree -- on floor at least. I understand why the double front and double front half out is both worth E in the UB. But on floor I believe the double front half out should be rated higher.
ispaht 3 years ago 4
She made my year when she won the Olympic FX! I was so afraid it was going to be some power tumbler with no dance, no artistry, etc.
audie83 3 years ago 4
Podkopayeva mastered in the double front, and I just love that the double front half is her own skill and that no one has really tried to attempt it in competition since.
enpha87 3 years ago 3
both of them are hers. i think the next front tumble will be a double front pike.
mistybabe5489 3 years ago 2
The "Wagner"?
Tia Orlando and Veronica Wagner have both competed a double front pike.
Penguin888 3 years ago
i didnt know anyone had done it. the skill isnt in the code of points.
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
I see heaps of ballet steps in this dance!!
THEpozzle 3 years ago
Anyone knows the name of the music used in this video? I reslly need to know! =)
thesims2super 3 years ago
The Barber of Seville
ispaht 3 years ago
I meant the music was from the opera The Barber of Seville. To be exact, the music's title is Largo al Factotum.
ispaht 3 years ago
I really love her first tumbling pass.
What's harder to land? An Arabian double front or a Podkopayeva?
ispaht 4 years ago 2
A Podkopayeva, (I still retain) is the hardest skill ever performed in women's gymnastics besides the Dos Santos, so the Podkopayeva is just a magnificent skill that just about no-one can even dare to land on their feet...
But if you can do both a Podkopayeva and a double arabian... A double Arabian, only because it is a front landing rather than a back landing...
Dunntosh 4 years ago 4
I see. Does the Podkopayeva taking off from a front handspring makes it more difficult?
ispaht 4 years ago