Flop Lob Cut Shot; #1 Most Popular Golf Teacher on You Tube Shawn Clement

[andytoy]

After you adjust your stance, is the club face towards the target line or slightly open still?

[clemshaw]

@andytoy Still well open; 90% of the initial direction of a driver is face related but when you get to the lob wedge, where there is more glance, 90% of the direction is path related; so if you open the face 45 degrees, it will only go about 5 degrees offline to the right...Shawn

[thelukos]

Hi Shawn excellent video as per! Your tips have helped me a lot through my golfing journey. I'm having trouble hitting this shot off tight lies. I'm ok if the balls sitting up nicely in some rough, and I can skim the club under the ball. I think there is too much bounce on my wedges. I'm looking to invest in a new set, what sort of bounce would you recommend, and could you or any other guys out there recommend any lower-end wedges that still produce good spin? Thanks

[thetripledoubleZ]

I have a sand wedge that is a 56 loft and a 12 bounce. And a normal pitching wedge. Which club is easier to flop?

[derekjeter1994]

@thetripledoubleZ more loft, easier flop

[kuneckid]

@thetripledoubleZ your 56 loft club has a bit too much 12 bounce on it, so it will be more difficult to flop a golf shot ! as by opening the club face like Shawn has shown us on the video, you are adding more bounce to the club. Try it, it will work but wont be as easy, as for example an 6-8degree bounce.

Best of Luck,

Daz.

[dkod066]

@thetripledoubleZ 56 degree

[budeffinlight1]

Man, the sound of contact on all his videos is magic!

[bwpbwp9613]

Your flop shot goes way further than mine. My flop shot only goes about 15 yards. Would my sand wedge go further? (I use a 60 degree lob wedge normally)

[DumlieOFC]

1:39 XD

[dschultz6072]

Straight out of the Little Red Book. Bravo, Shawn. This shot is only hard if you make it hard. Just give it a bit of practice!

[jd575]

Would this technique be beneficial with any of your lower irons? Love your vids btw!!

[jd575]

i.e. trying to go over an obstacle with a 5 iron.

[cheetncat]

Ok, thanks Shawn. Now, I also have a 68degree that was given to me ( that should tell me something!) would you still open the face on this x wedge or is there a even a practical place in the game for this kinda club?

[cheetncat]

If you are using a 60 degree wedge would you still need to open the face up?

[clemshaw]

@cheetncat Yes!! You Bet!! and yes, I am using a 60 degree wedge here;

Shawn

[MicrowavedHamster]

@clemshaw Shawn, you give away gold.

[cheetncat]

Awesome Shawn!

[cheetncat]

Great tips as usual shawn

[chittychad18]

Now this is how a teaching video should be! great job!

[gregrutz]

Which is better, a lob wedge square or a wedge open?

[jeffbass999]

@gregrutz you should probably get a lob wedge such as a 58-62 degree with a low bounce such as 4-8 degrees like shawn pointed out in a comment to question in another video. Also if you have the money you should spend it on a 54-56 degree with a high bounce like 10-14 degrees of bounce. If you don't have one yet I suggest getting the 54-56 degree first because it is a relatively neutural loft.

[wonkerjk]

Golf Pride+60 Degree=Amazing Club

[shinji0843]

how would you practice lob shots at the range though, since the club wouldn't be able to go under the ball like it would on natural grass...

[boardhead888]

That shot is sooo high risk . If you hit it thin..........goodbye ball ! If you hit it correctly , awesome!

[clemshaw]

@boardhead888 You can't play golf in fear!  :)

Stick to the process and keep visualizing what you want the ball to do; not what you are afraid might happen! Shawn

[CarolinasPGApro]

@clemshaw

Like Harvey Penick said......"take dead aim and swing without fear...after all, the ball's going to come down somewhere."

[pat52010]

Want to see the best hit wedge shots? Watch Lee Trevino's "Check Wedge" tips...

[Nazz123ran]

watch phil mickelson if u want to learn flops

[pholivero]

shawn, i love all of your lessons...do you swing along your feet or along the original line to the target?

[clemshaw]

You want to let momentum swing along the line it wants to swing on once you are set up which will feel like it is along the stance line; you will see this as I am swinging through the ball; I felt that I was a bit inside going back but corrected nicely at the top...:) Shawn

[keithmoslak]

I did this on a greenside shot 8 feet away from a 15 foot tree between me and the pin. One of my most memorable shots ever. 60 foot shot was 5 feet away from the pin. Thanks!

[irltractor]

I play the ball shlightly behind cente to prevent tnins and fats I find it works well

[MicrowavedHamster]

Something else, do I have to keep the clubface open throughout the whole swing?

[clemshaw]

Great question; and the answer is no, you will find that the fact that momentum is already moving across the line to the left will naturally keep the face open as your instincts are to hold things off because the momentum is moving to the left of the target; Thanks for posting! Shawn

[liambannin]

Why put the ball in the front of your stance? i put mine at the back, creates more spin.

[clemshaw]

This shot is not about spin; it is about landing the ball soft like a butterfly with sore feet! When playing a cut shot, you always want to play the ball forward of center; all the pros do! You would play the ball back if you were hitting a shot that would bounce twice and check when you have more green to work with; Shawn

[webbum]

After you turn your body is the leading edge of the club facing the target?

Thanks!

[clemshaw]

Great question!! No; you would still have the face open to the target and the aim to the left is just subtle to compensate slightly for the open face; if you overdo the open stance, it will send too much momentum to the left of the target...Shawn

[pocock24]

I got a new wedge its a 60 degree lob. so would it still be use full to learn flops with it ??

[clemshaw]

You Bet!!

Shawn

[hackfest4]

I have 3 sand wedges,52,56,60. Should I replace one with a lob wedge? A lob wedge has less bounce right? Thanks.

Dan

[taylormadegolf15]

a lob wedge is a 60. your 56 is a sand wedge, and your 52 is a gap wedge to fill the gap between your pitching wedge and your 56* sand wedge! and the amount of bounce varies between how you hit the ball. if you take bigger divots, a higher bounce is needed such as a 12. and if you sort of pick the ball off the ground, you need a lower bounce such as a 7.

[hackfest4]

Thank you Taylormadegolf15 for the info.

Dan

[clemshaw]

Well said!  Thanks

Shawn

[clemshaw]

Not necessarily; pros use a 60 degree as a lob wedge and if the course they play has tight lies around the greens, they use a low bounce wedge like 4 degrees; if they are playing the US open with thick rough around the greens or plush grass, they the bounce will be more around 10 degrees; Shawn

[MicrowavedHamster]

What are the pro's and cons of putting it in the front or further back, about in the middle of the stance? Something else, am I supposed to hit a divot (like you would with a 30 meter pitch shot)?

[youtubber1007]

Great videos. Thanks for posting. You explain everything so well and make it all look so easy! Cheers

[riazkhancrm]

I am a 8 handicapper and have a hard time hitting half shots. My specific problem is as follows: I hit the PW 110 yards, SW 80 yds, and Lob wedge (60 degrees) 70 yds. What is the best shot to hit to a flag located 55 yds away? The flag is about 10 yds from the edge of the green. I use a PROV1 Titleist Golf ball. The greens are on the hard side and the ball rolls from 1 to 6 yds depending on the type of shot. How should the shot be hit with each of the three clubs?

[clemshaw]

I would definitely go with the lob wedge; nothing special and use the technique I show you in the "golf Pro Lesson 40 to 60 yard shot"

Other videos to see are "Golf Pro Lesson ball bearings and sockets" as well as "golf Pro Lesson Nike Heavy gloves part 2"

Shawn

[beergut111]

So dont use a sand wedge?....use something like a gap wedge?

[bloojays123]

Wonderful tip. I watched this a few months ago and started practicing it - used it the first time on Sunday. Worked beautifully... one of the guys we were paired up with said he wished he had that shot in his arsenal! Thanks Shawn!

[Scampern]

Could you do one on a chip shot? A flop chip shot.

I have been practicing those myself lately and I think it is a great way to chip to a downward slope or over obstacles where the pin is close.

What I have found is with a flop chip shot one has to have very "loose" wrists as opposed to a normal chip shot.

I found that if I let my wrists "wagle" during the swing it will naturally release and slip under the ball.

I can only do it in the rough but thats normal?

[clemshaw]

Hey Scampern, sorry for the late answer!

You need a lob wedge with minimal bounce on the sole for tight lies flop; and a bit of practice...:) Cut chips work very well too and you can see my "downhill pitch over bunker" in the short game section of my "You Tube Shawn" page of my website;

Shawn

[hanson8torx]

Shawn, first of all these videos are amazing, i think a first grader could watch these and go shoot an 80...anyway, after you have your grip how much do you open your stance. from the video it looks like a big move. with the ball being the center is this a 45 degree turn or less than that? hope that makes sense. thanks

[clemshaw]

Hi and thanks for the great feedback!

I would say the stance would open up at a max of 30 degrees; for someone who works with a square to closed stance for the majority of their shots, this would seem and feel a little extreme; the best is if you can video tape yourself to match perception to reality...

Hope this helped! All the best, Shawn

[mklin32]

Great vid Shawn, the positioning of the body is what has been missing from my shots! What sort of approx distance would you get with the 60 deg wedge? I find controlling the accuracy of the shot quite difficult sometimes, distance and direction! Cheers

[clemshaw]

You will find that distance and direction get much more consistent when your body stays centered in all 3 dimentions...The "Golf Pro Lesson Weight shift";"Golf Pro Lesson catapult power" and "Top 25 Teacher fine tuning the best drill" videos will help keep you "Stacked and Balanced" as well as "Golf Pro Lesson Proper spine tilt" and "Braced Tilt" videos; Thanks for the comment; Shawn

[tnt1333]

well buddy. maybe you need to practice the shot, and through that find out how far you can get the ball to travel...if you consistantly use the same set-up, its easier to practice it and know when your on the course what to expect.

same goes for accuracy. Practice. make sure your grip is where it should be, and as long as your positioning the ball correctly, your giving yourself the best chance to confidently attack the pin.

[mklin32]

Thanks guys - yes, essentially it is all about practise, isn't it? ...which also builds up on the feel... and instinct.

Would the same technique apply for hitting a shot chip/flop 15-30yds? i.e. not full swing, and to get over a bunker.

[tnt1333]

when hitting a cut-lob, dont expect to even get 30 yards. Thats a long way for this type of shot. For shorted lobs, like those 10-yards just over a bunker to a tight pin position..try limited your backswing. know your distance with a full swing, a 3/4 swing, and a half swing, and make sure to accelerate through the shot. That gives you three shot distances with the same club, without changing your set-up, just length of swing. Thank Dave Peltz for that tip.

[zico19]

Shaun your a top man! You videos have re invented my love of the game! With the flop shot am i still trying to connect with the ball first, turf second, or am i now trying to skip the club under the ball?

[clemshaw]

Hi and thanks for your comment; in theory, the club will hit the ball first then skip, but your focus should be on the skip only...if your ball is in the correct position and the sole of the club skips through that spot, you are golden! Shawn

[Scampern]

Isn`t this kinda like a bunker shot when the ball is not burried and you want to pop right up?

I have before seen this video thought about using the bunker technique on shots that are for example in front of a bunker and I can`t seem to adjust the trajectory of the ball to not run over the green. With this kind of shot I could actually not be so worried about momentum speed and still be on the green because of the loft?

[clemshaw]

Yes, very much like a bunker shot except you are skipping grass instead of sand; you are probably not opening the face enough (let go of the grip, turn the face open, then grip normally) or you are not letting gravity do the work and you are pushing through the ball and blading it (catching too much with the bottom of the club instead of the face...Shawn

[itzLeo]

thanks for the videos. what club do you use for that shot?

[clemshaw]

Either a sand wedge or a lob wedge; 56 to 60 degrees and with an angle of bounce less than 10 degrees;

Shawn

[edmaximus]

Do we need to keep our weight forward during this shot Shawn or do we need to allow the weight to go back on the backswing and forward on the through swing? I always keep the weight forward the whole time on this particular shot. Thanks alot!

[clemshaw]

Yes, correct! You want to keep the centre of pressure on the inside of the left ankle through the back and forward swing;

great comment!

Shawn

[cjay64]

Hey Shawn...I'm not new to the game but I wanted to thank you for the tips...they are GREAT!!

Good to see Youtube put to good use.

Thanks.

[itubeutude]

playing flops are great fun but risky at the same time. you really need the 'feel' to pull it off.

[clemshaw]

Once you have the feel of momentum, then it becomes much easier...:)