And there is a price for such a omnipressence which cannot effect the space around it or intervene unless that specific person has the ability to create or destroy matter which in the eyes of a god the rules of physics don't apply but Alucard was and never will be a god so there for logically neither wins because Alucard can't do anything and Goku can't destroy him. Alutards don't confuse Omnipressence with Omnipotent power.
Seriously everyone needs to stop using Omni Alucard he is by far the biggest cop out in history, plus that whole omnipotence completly ruins him as a character and makes him a hypacrit to what he was saying the entire series which is why I hate the creator for being so lazy. It would have made more sense if he met his end by Anderson's hand had he not turned himself into a monster. By definition Alucard isn't even a contender in this argument because it isn't a fair.
i doesn't matter how many times i read it, the manga explains how major put scrhodingers abilities to use...and that was only by making scrhodinger kill himself(and that is the only way ), scrhodinger was not capable of warping anyone anywhere he wasn't capable of ripping people from the inside out..that means alucard will also not be capable of doing such things
proguna in dbz can grant any wish so if someone makes a wish to free scrhodinger alucard is raped ...that is one of the many ways
sorry for the "bulshit". don't "correct me" just answer 2 simple questions giving 2 simple solutions to a... person like me:
how will alucard wipe out the DBZ-verse?
how come Scrhodinger failed to "erase Alucard from existance"?(because some people didn't get the point or they are just trying to deny that they lost)
@123damed You know what, I digress. I am done stooping to your level. I am sorry for all the name calling, you just frustrate me beyond belief. Dealing with this civially, re-read the manga my friend. THEN come back here, and try disputing what you're saying.
@ParadiseDarkness he can't die and if you knock of his head he just laugh and no one can kill him how many times they try or blow up the univers but any way that was what you forget about alucard but i am whit you alucard wins
Did someone actually think that Schrodinger was trying to "KILL" Alucard? I think sealing him away by unmaking his physical body was what The Major was aiming for instead of actually killing him.
if someone gives me relevant solutions to these questions i will gladly accept alucard as being stronger than dbz characters
remeber this: you have to find a way to counter beings that alter reality to planetary level(that includes taking away souls and powers) teleportations, planet busting beings, immortality via atomic regeneration beings, dimension busting beings,dead zone ,hell ,heaven,hypersonic beings ,beyond life and death etc
the same thing...again..scrhodinger "entered" the river of blood to get consumed by alucard then deny his own existence which would led to the destruction of alucard
Conclusion : A Omnipresent being played suicidal to kill alucard which by standards is much much weaker than buu and he still failed because 30 years later (hellsing manga chapter 95) Alucard comes back stronger using Schrodingers soul
my questions remains: how will alucard kill the DBZ-verse? how come scrhod failed to kill alucard?
and oh no one asnwerd my questions , how could alucard kill DBZ verse?
and how come Scrhodinger(a Omnipresent being ,something that fans use these days) was defeated by a Alucard(immortal via regeneration being<Buu at that time because 1-buu doesn't need souls so he could regenerate by infinite amount of times and 2-Buu can do much more than devil hound and using guns)?
conclusion Alucard CAN'T DEFEAT dbz-verse.(man how i like to troll with people who act like "justin bieber fan girls" :)) )
I beings in dbz buu,garlic jr(this one is defeated by gohan i know),hirudegarn
alucard fans like to hype him with omnipresence :))...as i recall porunga or shenron can alter reality to planetary level which is > from a mutated ghost witch can materialize or dematerialize everywhere, and if they are capable of bringing dead people to life materialize planets true immortality etc etc etc its obvious that they could defuse scrhod from alucard :)
Im beings in dbz buu,garlic jr(this one is defeated by gohan i know),hirudegarn
alucard fans like to hype him with omnipresence :))...as i recall porunga or shenron can alter reality to planetary level which is > from a mutated ghost witch can materialize or dematerialize everywhere, and if they are capable of bringing dead people to life materialize planets true immortality etc etc etc its obvious that they could defuse scrhodinger from alucard :))
it has already been proved that if you are weaker and try to kill beings like ssj3 sayans you will still get owned just like what happened to super buu when he tried to kill vegito
mind attacks won't work, goku has already surpassed that level since he was several times dead and trained with ghosts that could kill alucard +he is capable of telekinesis
spirit attacks affects also the soul (it was proven to be affective on ghosts) and alucard never faced such characters
@Shinigamimon That makes no sense. You're simply making up baseless fanboy assumptions out of nowhere. An Omni Spirit Bomb = Obvious Fanboy Wank. Alucard's advantage in brokeness is an advantage against someone who lacks it.
@rayovac2010 ok so your saying the only way Alucard can win is through being a god moding pansy good for you. Besides that's the only way Alucard can win and also you don't think Goku wouldn't create the first Omni Spirit Bomb for a being like Alucard because Goku has a knack for breaking the limits of reality.
@Shinigamimon Buu has never been viewed as an immortal nearly as much as Alucard in the first place. Buu has no way of putting Alucard down but Alucarr can warp him to a black hole, center of the sun, or a different dimension. Omnipresence >>>> DBZ
@Shinigamimon You did not read the last chapter. It's chapter 95 in which Alucard returns from having his physical state entirely eradicated and turned to nothingness (something that no form of buu can do) and declares his omnipresence. Maybe you misinterpretated something IF you read it that is. Alucard teleports Buu to the center of the Sun where he'll be fried and having his molecular bonds dismember, something that he can't regenerate from.
@Shinigamimon And like I said to you in my post comments which you ignored, that dragon was non-canon so using it to forward Goku's negation to immortality is flawed (plus the dragon is not a regenerator).
@rayovac2010 and another example is Hirudagarn who's both immortal and supposed to be unkillable, but Goku easily killed it with Dragon Fist didn't he.
@rayovac2010 I have read the last chapter and like I keep telling retards like you Alucard vanished because he absorbed Shrodinger that's why the major said he won the war between the two of them and Goku has the power to kill beings that are supposedly unkillable, main example is kid buu who craps all over Alucard.
@Shinigamimon You didn't read the last chapter, that's the chapter before the last chapter you fucking moron. Alucard comes back after 30 years as a quantum omnipresent being. lol u so mad that DBZ lacks in comparison to omnipresent powers. : ( Alucard is haxed beyond belief at the end of the series.
there are so many ways that goku could kill alucard :))....alucard can't harm dbz characters above nappa...alucard will only annoy goku until he decides to spirit bomb his ass...or teleport him to the deepest layer of hell or dead-zone where he will never get out or until he gathers the dragon balls and erase him out of existence
@123damed A great Kai isn't anywhere near omnipotent, and you obviously have no idea how power omnipresent beings are. You're just a sad DBZ tard. Omnipresence, from ALL anime, manga, and fiction >>>>>> DBZ verse. Not just Alucard end series.
@rayovac2010 wait wait OMINPOTENT do you know what omnipotent is ? so wtf since when is alucard omnipotent or at least tell me if you know what omnipresent(last i checked scrhodinger can be anywhere he wants but only in once place) is you alu-tard ? tell men now wtf will alucard do to goku since he is everywhere(omnipresence) yet nowhere(pseudo) ? bore him to death? annoy him for the rest of his life by dying and coming back again ?
@123damed You're nothing but a DBZ fantard, it makes me sick. v_v I said nothing about Alucard being omnipotent, just omnipresent, and no, Schrodinger as the ability to be wherever he wants, in how ever many places he wants, when he wants. He controls his own will and how he exists, the Major explains this THOROUGHLY in the last Hellsing volume. Get your facts straight before trying to argue, fanboy.
@rayovac2010 i've just named several characters that owns DBZ verse and you are calling me a fantard: conclusion you are the fantard here and you make me puke
1 QTE"A great Kai isn't anywhere near omnipotent" since when do you need a omnipotent being to kill alucard =>logic beats alutard
2 def for omnipresent: the property of being present EVERYWHERE"
3-1+2= MY facts are straight
4 is spirit bomb and dragon fist non canon? no=> owned
@123damed I never said you had to be omnipotent to kill Alucard, it just takes omnipotent to nigh omnipotence to completely get rid of omnipresence. No, the DEFINITE defination for omnipresence is "being able to appear in more than one place, or everywhere at once." Dragon Fist was used in a MOVIE only, MOVIES ARE NON CANON. Not created by Akira Toriyama. : (
@123damed I never said spirit bomb was non-canon, but that wont do anything to harm even pre-Schrodinger Alucard. Just incinerate him, he doesn't need his molecules to keep regenerating. He's already BEEN completely incinerated. Schrodinger defeated Alucard because he WANTED TO. It was part of the Major's plan, the Major GAVE him orders to do it. Fucking read the manga man.
@123damed Pre-Schrodinger Alucard can't do anything to DBZ characters, but end series can. He can destroy them from the inside out. : ( He's omnipresent you troll boy, he takes Goku's heart then appears before the sun, throws it in. The Major already explained Schrodinger's quantum, super positioned omnipresent abilities. If you want, I can get right down to the point and tell you what he said, exactly from the manga page, and explain what super positioning and omnipresence really is.
When existing everywhere. You can appear inside of a person. Even a person who cannot bust a galaxy can be stronger than a Galaxy Buster if Omnipresence. Goku doesn't have the powers nor the strength to take down a Omnipresence. If you do, please prove it. :D
@rayovac2010 since alucard does not have planet busting power to kill goku he will just die and come back again...now what will goku do when he gets bored of alucard...alucards immortal because of scrhodingers soul, there are several tech from the kais or dead people from hell/heaven(which alucard never dreamed of) that affects souls , shenron could separate alucards soul from scrhod ?last i checked goku already killed immortal beings using dragon fist and SPIRIT bomb
@123damed You're also using a lot of non canon things Goku has accomplished, and Shenron and most of the Kai's can't do shit that exceedes their power. Omnipresence = exceedes their power. And I wasn't talking about just Alucard end series >>> DBZ, I was talking about ANY omnipresent being from ANY anime, manga, game, or fiction. Read better, learn your facts better, and for the love of God, STOP being a fucking DBZ fan boy. Makes you look super gay. : (
@rayovac2010 by ur logic frieza is stronger than goku because he can survive in space you only scream of omnipresence and that would be just a pain in the ass for dbz characters until they are bored of him
5- you didn't answer how will alucard kill Goku ?
6- if omnipresence can own DBZ or any other anime that does not have omnipresent beings than why did Scrhod lost to Alucard ?
i school you in Hellsing/alucard/dracula/vlad the impaler + the character originated from my country
@123damed Hellsing, Alucard and Dracula originated in Japan, Japan, then Bram Stoker's novel, wherever that was again. Vlad is the only place that originated in Romania / Wallachia. : ( You're such a fan tard and you dont even know it, you're making yourself look so stupid.
@123damed Hellsing, Alucard and Dracula originated in Japan, Japan, then Bram Stoker's novel, wherever that was again. Vlad is the only place that originated in Romania / Wallachia. : ( You're such a fan tard and you dont even know it, you're making yourself look so stupid.
@123damed Hellsing, Alucard and Dracula originated in Japan, Japan, then Bram Stoker's novel, wherever that was again. Vlad is the only place that originated in Romania / Wallachia. : ( You're such a fan tard and you dont even know it, you're making yourself look so stupid.
@123damed I never said you had to be omnipotent to kill Alucard, it just takes omnipotent to nigh omnipotence to completely get rid of omnipresence. No, the DEFINITE defination for omnipresence is "being able to appear in more than one place, or everywhere at once." Dragon Fist was used in a MOVIE only, MOVIES ARE NON CANON. Not created by Akira Toriyama. : (
@123damed In fact you're SUCH a fan tard that you're refusing to see the bits where I said "i am not only talking about end series Alucard, I am talking about ANY fictional character from anime, manga or games, that has omnipresence, defeats DBZ." That is my argument, that you DBZ tards can't stand a power higher than your favorite characters, unless they are omnipotent. But even then some of you tards refuse to believe omnipotence >>> DBZ
@rayovac2010 and to finish this let me give you some anime characters that top dbz : kami tenichi, dark schneider, neos. if you think that alucard is comparable to one of these then you are a complete alutard. Alucard with Scrhodingers sould could barely keep up with samurai deeper kyo so DDZ>>>>hellsing in power and i i'm a Hellsing fan for the love of....
@ParadiseDarkness how will he destroy it ? =)) by dying 100000 times and still come back for more ? Goku looks and ALucard...Alucard dies ...Alucard comes back ...Goku looks at him again...and he dies ..and so on until Goku is sick of him and decides to use the dragon ball to get rid of him for good
im think Goku can win cause if goku do a Sprit Bomb the Alucard will be destroyed not killed he will gone:D:D so Goku can win but if Alucard can even Regenerated that then Alucard will win
@Shinigamimon Those two examples from the movies you stated are non-canon. The actual goku has no such feats. Not that having such powers will kill/defeat an omnipresent being.
@Shinigamimon looks like someone didn't read the last chapter of hellsing. Last time I checked Alucard is omnipresent because he absorbed Schrodinger and has only his soul left (plus his own). If you actually finished the series, you can tell Alucard remains perfectly in existence and unrestricted until he collects more souls. Soulfuck anyone?
And those who want to use Alucard/ shrodinger absorbed is pointless and stupid because it's only when he absorbed shrodinger did he fade out of existence dumbasses. So by those who argue that are actually not helping Alucard's cause in this argument.
If you want another example, look at wrath of the dragon when Goku's power ( dragon fist) completly killed the immortal and technically untouchable Hirudigarn but that didn't stop Goku did it? Another one is if Goku wanted to fuse with Vegeta, and use stardust breaker would have the same effect on Alucard as it had on Janemba.
Goku could destroy entire planets but he's good, but Goku's fight with buu proves he would win against Alucard you see to Alucard Buu would be a true immortal, he can't die and doesn't age but Goku's power along with the energy of every thing on earth defied that logic and completely destroyed buu, so that very fact means Goku would win
Contrary. The only DBZ character in which Alucard is overrated against is Buu. We're talking about an omnipresent vampire with a huge variety of power. I don't remember Goku being an universal+ buster nor is he immune to soulfuck.
alucard is cool but is he really this overrated??? goku is a planet destroyer. alucard has nothing to hurt him. Remember kids immortality is OVERRATED!!!
Hahaha Alucard would kill Goku, Alucard is Dracula. Plus the fact that he can never die, so even if he were blown to pieces he just regenerates and comes at Goku again. But that doesn't even need to be discussed because Alucard's too fast for Goku anyway lol Goku would be dead before he knew what hit him lol
@Bestaced789 Um earth to retard! Goku's not human either or did you forget that he could simply destroy the earth and not even a vampire could survive in space...Sure Alucard can regenerate but you forgot that so could Majin Buu and he was way older than that vampire...
You are right that Goku would beat Alucard but I don't think even Goku is that strong to beat him in normal mode. Also Alucard would kill most of the other guys in DBZ like Nappa. So even if Goku can bet Alucard, Aluculd would be a good fight and would own most of the other characters (mainly villains the Goku beat).
Well, both of them could beat one another. But I think that we have not seen all of Alucard's power yet. When he is at full power (level 0 or somthing) Goku has no chance as Alucard can summon ALL his familiars (that is somewhere in its 1,000,000s) and at least 10000 would be other vampires that Alucard has killed. In fact the only way Goku can win is if he used his Spirit Bomb attack but he would not have the time as Alucard would just be to fast.......
Alucard familiar is nothing, they just undead nothing more. How can a spear could get goku hurt.
Goku no need to fight against his familiar.If he release level o, goku just need to destroy the planet and instantly move to where Elder kai live or king kai Planet. Well that seem unfair. Earth can't hold goku full power but Earth can hold alucard full power. Goku power is unfair for alucard.
@criticsharem You ask how a spear can harm Goku...I'm not exactly as DBZ-savvy as most, but say Goku and Trunks were to fight. Are you saying he woudn't have to dodge Trunks's Sword?
LOL Goku Shunkan Idō's (instant transmission's) Alucard into hell. Where he is repeatedly raped by gravity and ice which freezes souls, or raped by every other evil character Goku has defeated. (All of which are infinitely more powerful than Alucard, including Nappa.
Nappa two fingers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alucard.
(I mean, common. Goku surpassed divine beings (I.E GODS!) and EVERYONE on a universal scale.) Fuck, this would be more fair against Kid Goku.
ahaha but no goku will beat alucard in two seconds (at his usual generous mood) by using insta trans him to space/ocean and victory by default. oh and btw has goku ever been shown to be a planet-buster. His Spirit bomb (won't kill alucard in one shot even if it's designed to kill evil trust me... it won't mean anything to alucard's health) is his most powerful move but has it ever been shown (even in GT) to destroy even half a planet? But course, it's Goku's win.
this is a bad thing for him if it is the case, one instant transmission on the floor of the ocean, naturally before that he can even process what the hell is happening for avoid that he can disappear away (perfectly possible since goku is easly speedlight) and good bye my dear Count!!
@TheBugster2u lol no...alucard is dracula my friend...in the last gonzo episode we see alucards human face witch is vlad the impaler..who eventually becomes dracula..
@MsSeKiRei I dont think alucards special abilities are able to affect Goku. The only way Alucard fights is by piercing through the skin of people by either bullets or his special abilities. Goku has really resistant skin -_- and his spirit bomb is designed to kill evil.
Alucard obliterates most of his opponents using bullets, and can be ripped apart by them (although he regenerates). Even King Piccolo is unaffected by bullets. Though Alucard is omnipresent, and though he can regenerate like a motherfucker, I highly doubt he could truly harm Goku. His speed isn't as good and neither is his strength. Goku could blow up an entire planet pretty easily from the Frieza saga onward, I don't think Alucard has that ability.
@VegitoVai90 but how many times you see that alucard gots KIlled, like well MORE than gokus and some how the nigger gets always health and also if the enemies is so stronger he can be on sadistic mode and start eating his opponenet but in this case goku has a pretty speed and also the guy has special powers well, maybe goku would win if he don't get killed by alucard first.
@JMRG2992 alucard has nothing against goku..goku already fought beings that regenerate like alucard...he surpassed everyone in the universe in life and death hell and earth...gokus attacks are pure energy that affects every thing ..goku can instant transmission alucard at the bottom of the ocean/hell/dead zone and its instant win
kosketina alucard has as many lives as he has killed(and he is an insane murderer who has lived decades so goku will die of old age before alucard is really dead)
Spirit bomb would beat Alucard but the problem is goku need time to create it and i doubt that Alucard would give goku the time he needs so the only way that goku can beat alucard is to teleport him on some far away planet on the end of universe and leave him there alucard cant teleport and cant fly so he would be stuck on that planet :D
Hellsing and Alucard are fuckin sick don't get me wrong,but Goku would win in the end.There is no such thing as immortality you fools even Alucard recognizes that.He is just VERY durable.No human weapon has come forth that has put Alucards life in danger.Goku is faster and more physically powerful than Alucard and his energy attacks would injure him I'm sure.A full power kamehameha or spirit bomb would probably be the only way to put him down permanently.
@wisewarrior7 Actually at the end of the manga there's only one way to kill him other than being omnipotent, and that's only if he loses his cognizance. Something no Dragonball Z character can do to Alucard, that and he becomes quantum omnipresent.
@UnrighteousGod Oh I almost forgot I posted something on here.....How could we know that.Alucard has never been blasted with mindboglingly powerful energy attacks before
@wisewarrior7 He's been erased from all time, existence, life, reality, space and pretty much everything else. He no longer existed in any form, what so ever, in any life time, in any universe, in any reality. And yet, he came back. That is far more powerful than any devastating attack given from DBZ.
@TartarKid Nah kid, not really. You want bad writing and plotting then look to DBZ. It's the same thing, over and over and over through out the hundreds of episodes it has. It's really not that good, at all. First few eps were great. Now it's just shit, and don't even get me started on Kai. V_V
@UnrighteousGod goku can take planet busting hits...alucard can't do such attacks..furthermore ki blasts affects any type of energy(specially life energy -spirit bomb) and also we know that goku has a lot of relationship with the "dead"(because he was a few times dead) so...i'm sure that alucard can't do anything to him..and as for speed goku can do instant transmission..he can telleport himself from one part of the universe to another(witch alucard doesn't even have the knowledge)
@123damed It doesn't matter, Alucard is quantum omnipresent. The Dragon Balls are NOT omnipotent, they have limits to their wishing powers. They couldn't wish an omnipresence ability to not exist anywhere away, end of series Alucard trumps Goku in speed. He exists everywhere at once, that's billions of times faster than light, and both manga and anime Goku is only a portion of faster than light. He kills Goku from the inside out, easy as that.
@UnrighteousGod buu tried to kill vegito from the inside out..it didn't work...alucard doesn't trump goku in speed goku has instant transmission (INSTANT witch is absolute in speed)...yes i know that omnipresent still beats instant transmission but dbz-vers is much greater than hellsing-verse universe>earth so goku and alucard are the same when it comes to speed
and dragon ball wish limit happens when a wish is made that affects a person(without his will) witch is stronger than the dragon
@UnrighteousGod alucard's best chance in goku vs alucard is a draw..alucards stays a floating thing (away from goku because ki blast and spirit bomb affects anything that has life energy)
-alucard can't attack gokus mind/spirit because goku had several relationship with the "DEAD" and his spirit is an essential thing of his battle-power also i have to mention that alucard needs blood to do his magic(infinite amount for restriction 0)..there is nothing that alucard can do to goku
@UnrighteousGod there are characters in dbz that can manipulate reality like picolo and bu and the dragon can erase alucard existence because it terms of brute force and spirit alucard isn't stronger than shenron(i think that is his name...)
alucard was beatable before he got schoinger when he gets him he is the only one who can end his own life but without schoinger goku blows up the planet and kills him so it really could go all sorts of ways not to mention dragon balls and that
@Kiraislight19623 Actually he becomes quantum omnipresent at the end of the manga, so yeah, he's far more "powerful" than Goku, or any of the other Dragonball Z characters.
allthough im a Hellsing fan, i have to say Goku. But, Alucard can regenate himself, and he can be everywere and nowere ( shrodingers ability ) and that makes him immortal.
Alucard vs Goku Well I'm gonna go with Goku on this one. Don't get me wrong Alucard would put up a great fight but if he goes up against Goku well then there's just no way.
BUT I know who could beat them both up combined. It's THE GENOSAJI(the spoon demon from The horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon).
Noobs Goku Can Beat Him Easily He Could Just Become A Super Saiyan And Just Blast Him Then Use His Super Kamehameha And If He Got Tired He Just Wish That Alucard To Become UnImmortal Then Hit Him With Super Kamehameha Then Caboom Goku Wins
@cheesyguy12345 goku was never human to begin with, hes a saiyan, and goku still can beat alucard, alucard said that bcause he wanted his life to be taken bythe human anderson, bcause he didnt want to anderson turn into a monster to fight him, remember what alucard thinks about himself... he didnt want anderson to turn into that, if you remember well alucard even cried in that battle, like i said the saying "only a human can kill a monster" was just figure of speech
@lineagel2gold ALUCARD IS NOT IMMORTAL NOR OMNIPRESENT, alucard stated immortality doesnt exist, he actually said that people that believe such thing are fools (he called you a fool, lol!), he also said he could be killed, gold....
youre a SUPER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBB!, congratulations! and unless youre gonna bring some FACTS that can prove the contrary, the discussion is over (you cant bcause im right, but i like to mention it as option)
@lineagel2gold as i xpected... you came back PUTTING BS, ive already watched the complete anime (wich is not canon you idiot), the manga (read it all a few months ago) and ive watched all the ovas that have come out, the only things he has staten is that X character(s) can not beat him (bcause theyre 2 weak) and that immortality does not exist, you didnt put a quote, nor statement, all you cam back with is an un-existing statement (wich you dont remember when he said it bcause it didnt happen)
@lineagel2gold nooo... the other ovas is the TRUE hellsing, have you not read the manga? the anime was a "spin-off" the true manga adaption is being done in the hellsing ultimate OVAs in wich he has stated already immortality does not exist, are you really arguing this then without having seen the true story? god....
@itachizetsupein you are more stupid than I thought. I'm talking about anime on TV. OVA Yase there are several manga noob. And alucard can only be overridden by integrating or breaking its regeneration system -.-
@lineagel2gold there are only 2 hellsing manga you fucking noob, hellsing and hellsing: the dawn, see? youve already gone desperate, now youre putting the anime above the original story, guess what... i think what the author of hellsing wrote is more legitimate then some guys who had to put a filler ending wrote... but hey, if you wanna denie facts go ahead, youre just proving the idiot noob you are, you have completely shown disregard and ignorance of hellsing storyline
@lineagel2gold p.d. anime alucard can also be beaten by goku, if he completely desintigrates alucard, there would be no regenaration capabilities left, actually, anime alucard is probable even weaker than manga and ova alucard...
@lineagel2gold oooo, yeah, a man that trains several days straight and has more energy than millions of people together will tire out from bashing alucard millions of times... wait why is this discussion still going on? i already proved your points wrong, now your saying alucard wins bcause goku gets tired? accept it already goku wins
@lineagel2gold hahaha,sore loser, normal goku has over ten tons of physical power in each of his arms and is hypersonic, he can bash alucards head without going SS, and goku SS3 is lightspeed, he can kill alucard millions of times in minutes, you are an idiot and ignorant loser, im probably older than you. i obviously know more much than U, ive already proved you wrong everytime, and then you changed arguments, youre just an alutard that cant accept alucard loses, goodbye, ive won the discussion
@itachizetsupein jajajaajajajajjajajaajjajajaja alucard , and the seal 3 has an incomparable strength the could easily eat it with the jackal, you're an idiot go see Teletubbies
@lineagel2gold sore loser, lightspeed = 30,000,000 hits per second, in a few mins alucard would b dead, he wouldnt even see gokus SS3 attacks , describe you, stubborn, ignorant and sore loser, anybody thats not an alucard fanboy like you can see it, ive won, im right, ive proven you wrong everytime, you no longer put arguments, you just put your opinion (wich is crap), and how would you even put arguments, when you didnt know the ovas where the canon storyline? you dont know shit about hellsing
@lineagel2gold nor about DBZ, stop arguing on things you dont now about, and stop putting childish offenses, teletubbies, hahaha, if you know something about psycology you should when people put irrelevant ofenses like yours it bcause their naming their own defects, so, did you use too like teletubbies and spongebob or do you still like them? (note: not my opinion, thats phsycology)
@lineagel2gold BTW i correct myself, hits have to extend AND retreat and suffer other minimal setbacks, so it should be around 10,000,000 punches per second, not 30,000,000
@lineagel2gold hahaha, pathetic excuse, you know im right, in EVERYTHING, go watch the teletubbies and spongebob, doesnt really matter to me since ive won this discussion, ignorant prick
@lineagel2gold LOL, apparently you DONT have more important things 2 do, well, i do, since ive already proved you wrong there is no necessity for me to stay here, so goodbye
@lineagel2gold I believe the word you were attempting to spell was immortal. And even if he was immortal it wouldn't matter against someone like Goku. He could just beat him until he is a paralyzed vegetable then instant transmission him to the dead zone.
@cheesyguy12345 How would Alucard win? Secondly, why do people claim GT Goku not to be cannon, when the dude who made Goku gave them the rights to the show? Technically it's considered cannon, and Goku quite literally became god once he absorbed the dragon balls. I guess that's irrelevant to my first question though.
@hawnkblade I've told you multiple times. Are you serious? Have you read anything I've said? I gave you a shit load of examples. However, the most effective one I can imagine would be Genki Dama. It completely destroys anything not pure of heart. It is a technique taught to Goku from the gods themselves... You know what? I'm not going to explain this AGAIN! Learn to read.
goku deletes his atoms :P with a universal genkidama!
7firefistace 2 weeks ago
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7firefistace 3 weeks ago
And there is a price for such a omnipressence which cannot effect the space around it or intervene unless that specific person has the ability to create or destroy matter which in the eyes of a god the rules of physics don't apply but Alucard was and never will be a god so there for logically neither wins because Alucard can't do anything and Goku can't destroy him. Alutards don't confuse Omnipressence with Omnipotent power.
Shinigamimon 1 month ago
Seriously everyone needs to stop using Omni Alucard he is by far the biggest cop out in history, plus that whole omnipotence completly ruins him as a character and makes him a hypacrit to what he was saying the entire series which is why I hate the creator for being so lazy. It would have made more sense if he met his end by Anderson's hand had he not turned himself into a monster. By definition Alucard isn't even a contender in this argument because it isn't a fair.
Shinigamimon 1 month ago
It's a slight win for Hellsing. Extreme Hax > Brute Power.
edwinsz 2 months ago
i doesn't matter how many times i read it, the manga explains how major put scrhodingers abilities to use...and that was only by making scrhodinger kill himself(and that is the only way ), scrhodinger was not capable of warping anyone anywhere he wasn't capable of ripping people from the inside out..that means alucard will also not be capable of doing such things
proguna in dbz can grant any wish so if someone makes a wish to free scrhodinger alucard is raped ...that is one of the many ways
123damed 2 months ago
sorry for the "bulshit". don't "correct me" just answer 2 simple questions giving 2 simple solutions to a... person like me:
how will alucard wipe out the DBZ-verse?
how come Scrhodinger failed to "erase Alucard from existance"?(because some people didn't get the point or they are just trying to deny that they lost)
123damed 2 months ago
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rayovac2010 2 months ago
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rayovac2010 2 months ago
@123damed You know what, I digress. I am done stooping to your level. I am sorry for all the name calling, you just frustrate me beyond belief. Dealing with this civially, re-read the manga my friend. THEN come back here, and try disputing what you're saying.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
How will Alucard wipe out DBZverse? Easy, just appear inside of everyone and fuck up their shit inside.
Now tell me, how can anyone in Dragon Ball defeated an omnipresence being?
ParadiseDarkness 2 months ago
@ParadiseDarkness he can't die and if you knock of his head he just laugh and no one can kill him how many times they try or blow up the univers but any way that was what you forget about alucard but i am whit you alucard wins
stico09 2 months ago
Did someone actually think that Schrodinger was trying to "KILL" Alucard? I think sealing him away by unmaking his physical body was what The Major was aiming for instead of actually killing him.
edwinsz 2 months ago
if someone gives me relevant solutions to these questions i will gladly accept alucard as being stronger than dbz characters
remeber this: you have to find a way to counter beings that alter reality to planetary level(that includes taking away souls and powers) teleportations, planet busting beings, immortality via atomic regeneration beings, dimension busting beings,dead zone ,hell ,heaven,hypersonic beings ,beyond life and death etc
123damed 2 months ago
the same thing...again..scrhodinger "entered" the river of blood to get consumed by alucard then deny his own existence which would led to the destruction of alucard
Conclusion : A Omnipresent being played suicidal to kill alucard which by standards is much much weaker than buu and he still failed because 30 years later (hellsing manga chapter 95) Alucard comes back stronger using Schrodingers soul
my questions remains: how will alucard kill the DBZ-verse? how come scrhod failed to kill alucard?
123damed 2 months ago
I sense denial of omnipresence coming up.... only for the fanboy to be contradicted and him gettin mad about it XDXDXD
edwinsz 2 months ago
Schrodinger defeated Alucard, you got it backwards. Also the Hellsing and DBZ wank is rising to ridiculous levels.
edwinsz 2 months ago
and i also love it when i'm right and they are wrong :D
123damed 2 months ago
and oh no one asnwerd my questions , how could alucard kill DBZ verse?
and how come Scrhodinger(a Omnipresent being ,something that fans use these days) was defeated by a Alucard(immortal via regeneration being<Buu at that time because 1-buu doesn't need souls so he could regenerate by infinite amount of times and 2-Buu can do much more than devil hound and using guns)?
conclusion Alucard CAN'T DEFEAT dbz-verse.(man how i like to troll with people who act like "justin bieber fan girls" :)) )
123damed 2 months ago
I beings in dbz buu,garlic jr(this one is defeated by gohan i know),hirudegarn
alucard fans like to hype him with omnipresence :))...as i recall porunga or shenron can alter reality to planetary level which is > from a mutated ghost witch can materialize or dematerialize everywhere, and if they are capable of bringing dead people to life materialize planets true immortality etc etc etc its obvious that they could defuse scrhod from alucard :)
123damed 2 months ago
Im beings in dbz buu,garlic jr(this one is defeated by gohan i know),hirudegarn
alucard fans like to hype him with omnipresence :))...as i recall porunga or shenron can alter reality to planetary level which is > from a mutated ghost witch can materialize or dematerialize everywhere, and if they are capable of bringing dead people to life materialize planets true immortality etc etc etc its obvious that they could defuse scrhodinger from alucard :))
123damed 2 months ago
it has already been proved that if you are weaker and try to kill beings like ssj3 sayans you will still get owned just like what happened to super buu when he tried to kill vegito
mind attacks won't work, goku has already surpassed that level since he was several times dead and trained with ghosts that could kill alucard +he is capable of telekinesis
spirit attacks affects also the soul (it was proven to be affective on ghosts) and alucard never faced such characters
123damed 2 months ago
Dude, you just put out so much bullshit it's not even funny. Correcting you on your bullshit just isn't enough to show how fucking retarded you are.
ParadiseDarkness 2 months ago
@Shinigamimon That makes no sense. You're simply making up baseless fanboy assumptions out of nowhere. An Omni Spirit Bomb = Obvious Fanboy Wank. Alucard's advantage in brokeness is an advantage against someone who lacks it.
edwinsz 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 ok so your saying the only way Alucard can win is through being a god moding pansy good for you. Besides that's the only way Alucard can win and also you don't think Goku wouldn't create the first Omni Spirit Bomb for a being like Alucard because Goku has a knack for breaking the limits of reality.
Shinigamimon 2 months ago
@Shinigamimon : ( U just mad.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@Shinigamimon Buu has never been viewed as an immortal nearly as much as Alucard in the first place. Buu has no way of putting Alucard down but Alucarr can warp him to a black hole, center of the sun, or a different dimension. Omnipresence >>>> DBZ
edwinsz 2 months ago
@Shinigamimon You did not read the last chapter. It's chapter 95 in which Alucard returns from having his physical state entirely eradicated and turned to nothingness (something that no form of buu can do) and declares his omnipresence. Maybe you misinterpretated something IF you read it that is. Alucard teleports Buu to the center of the Sun where he'll be fried and having his molecular bonds dismember, something that he can't regenerate from.
edwinsz 2 months ago
@Shinigamimon And like I said to you in my post comments which you ignored, that dragon was non-canon so using it to forward Goku's negation to immortality is flawed (plus the dragon is not a regenerator).
edwinsz 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 and another example is Hirudagarn who's both immortal and supposed to be unkillable, but Goku easily killed it with Dragon Fist didn't he.
Shinigamimon 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 I have read the last chapter and like I keep telling retards like you Alucard vanished because he absorbed Shrodinger that's why the major said he won the war between the two of them and Goku has the power to kill beings that are supposedly unkillable, main example is kid buu who craps all over Alucard.
Shinigamimon 2 months ago
@Shinigamimon You didn't read the last chapter, that's the chapter before the last chapter you fucking moron. Alucard comes back after 30 years as a quantum omnipresent being. lol u so mad that DBZ lacks in comparison to omnipresent powers. : ( Alucard is haxed beyond belief at the end of the series.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
there are so many ways that goku could kill alucard :))....alucard can't harm dbz characters above nappa...alucard will only annoy goku until he decides to spirit bomb his ass...or teleport him to the deepest layer of hell or dead-zone where he will never get out or until he gathers the dragon balls and erase him out of existence
123damed 3 months ago
@123damed End Series Alucard >>> DBZ verse. : )
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 a great Kai(is enough) >>>>>>Hellsing verse
goku would be overkill for post scrhodinger alucard
123damed 2 months ago
@123damed A great Kai isn't anywhere near omnipotent, and you obviously have no idea how power omnipresent beings are. You're just a sad DBZ tard. Omnipresence, from ALL anime, manga, and fiction >>>>>> DBZ verse. Not just Alucard end series.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 wait wait OMINPOTENT do you know what omnipotent is ? so wtf since when is alucard omnipotent or at least tell me if you know what omnipresent(last i checked scrhodinger can be anywhere he wants but only in once place) is you alu-tard ? tell men now wtf will alucard do to goku since he is everywhere(omnipresence) yet nowhere(pseudo) ? bore him to death? annoy him for the rest of his life by dying and coming back again ?
123damed 2 months ago
@123damed You're nothing but a DBZ fantard, it makes me sick. v_v I said nothing about Alucard being omnipotent, just omnipresent, and no, Schrodinger as the ability to be wherever he wants, in how ever many places he wants, when he wants. He controls his own will and how he exists, the Major explains this THOROUGHLY in the last Hellsing volume. Get your facts straight before trying to argue, fanboy.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 i've just named several characters that owns DBZ verse and you are calling me a fantard: conclusion you are the fantard here and you make me puke
1 QTE"A great Kai isn't anywhere near omnipotent" since when do you need a omnipotent being to kill alucard =>logic beats alutard
2 def for omnipresent: the property of being present EVERYWHERE"
3-1+2= MY facts are straight
4 is spirit bomb and dragon fist non canon? no=> owned
123damed 2 months ago
@123damed I never said you had to be omnipotent to kill Alucard, it just takes omnipotent to nigh omnipotence to completely get rid of omnipresence. No, the DEFINITE defination for omnipresence is "being able to appear in more than one place, or everywhere at once." Dragon Fist was used in a MOVIE only, MOVIES ARE NON CANON. Not created by Akira Toriyama. : (
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@123damed I never said spirit bomb was non-canon, but that wont do anything to harm even pre-Schrodinger Alucard. Just incinerate him, he doesn't need his molecules to keep regenerating. He's already BEEN completely incinerated. Schrodinger defeated Alucard because he WANTED TO. It was part of the Major's plan, the Major GAVE him orders to do it. Fucking read the manga man.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@123damed Pre-Schrodinger Alucard can't do anything to DBZ characters, but end series can. He can destroy them from the inside out. : ( He's omnipresent you troll boy, he takes Goku's heart then appears before the sun, throws it in. The Major already explained Schrodinger's quantum, super positioned omnipresent abilities. If you want, I can get right down to the point and tell you what he said, exactly from the manga page, and explain what super positioning and omnipresence really is.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@123damed Since you're such a fan tard you fail to understand anything other than "DBZ >>> ALL11111"
rayovac2010 2 months ago
When existing everywhere. You can appear inside of a person. Even a person who cannot bust a galaxy can be stronger than a Galaxy Buster if Omnipresence. Goku doesn't have the powers nor the strength to take down a Omnipresence. If you do, please prove it. :D
ParadiseDarkness 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 since alucard does not have planet busting power to kill goku he will just die and come back again...now what will goku do when he gets bored of alucard...alucards immortal because of scrhodingers soul, there are several tech from the kais or dead people from hell/heaven(which alucard never dreamed of) that affects souls , shenron could separate alucards soul from scrhod ?last i checked goku already killed immortal beings using dragon fist and SPIRIT bomb
123damed 2 months ago
@123damed You're also using a lot of non canon things Goku has accomplished, and Shenron and most of the Kai's can't do shit that exceedes their power. Omnipresence = exceedes their power. And I wasn't talking about just Alucard end series >>> DBZ, I was talking about ANY omnipresent being from ANY anime, manga, game, or fiction. Read better, learn your facts better, and for the love of God, STOP being a fucking DBZ fan boy. Makes you look super gay. : (
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 by ur logic frieza is stronger than goku because he can survive in space you only scream of omnipresence and that would be just a pain in the ass for dbz characters until they are bored of him
5- you didn't answer how will alucard kill Goku ?
6- if omnipresence can own DBZ or any other anime that does not have omnipresent beings than why did Scrhod lost to Alucard ?
i school you in Hellsing/alucard/dracula/vlad the impaler + the character originated from my country
123damed 2 months ago
@123damed Hellsing, Alucard and Dracula originated in Japan, Japan, then Bram Stoker's novel, wherever that was again. Vlad is the only place that originated in Romania / Wallachia. : ( You're such a fan tard and you dont even know it, you're making yourself look so stupid.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
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@123damed Hellsing, Alucard and Dracula originated in Japan, Japan, then Bram Stoker's novel, wherever that was again. Vlad is the only place that originated in Romania / Wallachia. : ( You're such a fan tard and you dont even know it, you're making yourself look so stupid.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
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@123damed Hellsing, Alucard and Dracula originated in Japan, Japan, then Bram Stoker's novel, wherever that was again. Vlad is the only place that originated in Romania / Wallachia. : ( You're such a fan tard and you dont even know it, you're making yourself look so stupid.
rayovac2010 2 months ago
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@123damed I never said you had to be omnipotent to kill Alucard, it just takes omnipotent to nigh omnipotence to completely get rid of omnipresence. No, the DEFINITE defination for omnipresence is "being able to appear in more than one place, or everywhere at once." Dragon Fist was used in a MOVIE only, MOVIES ARE NON CANON. Not created by Akira Toriyama. : (
rayovac2010 2 months ago
@123damed In fact you're SUCH a fan tard that you're refusing to see the bits where I said "i am not only talking about end series Alucard, I am talking about ANY fictional character from anime, manga or games, that has omnipresence, defeats DBZ." That is my argument, that you DBZ tards can't stand a power higher than your favorite characters, unless they are omnipotent. But even then some of you tards refuse to believe omnipotence >>> DBZ
rayovac2010 2 months ago
Goku never kill any immortal beings. If he did, please named them.
ParadiseDarkness 2 months ago
@rayovac2010 and to finish this let me give you some anime characters that top dbz : kami tenichi, dark schneider, neos. if you think that alucard is comparable to one of these then you are a complete alutard. Alucard with Scrhodingers sould could barely keep up with samurai deeper kyo so DDZ>>>>hellsing in power and i i'm a Hellsing fan for the love of....
123damed 2 months ago
Alucard is Omnipresent.....He destroys Dragon Ball Verse xDD
ParadiseDarkness 2 months ago
@ParadiseDarkness how will he destroy it ? =)) by dying 100000 times and still come back for more ? Goku looks and ALucard...Alucard dies ...Alucard comes back ...Goku looks at him again...and he dies ..and so on until Goku is sick of him and decides to use the dragon ball to get rid of him for good
123damed 2 months ago
im think Goku can win cause if goku do a Sprit Bomb the Alucard will be destroyed not killed he will gone:D:D so Goku can win but if Alucard can even Regenerated that then Alucard will win
AQWkrutoy 3 months ago
@Shinigamimon Buu is obviously not a true immortal. He's only immortal via agelessness and regeneration.
edwinsz 4 months ago
@Shinigamimon Those two examples from the movies you stated are non-canon. The actual goku has no such feats. Not that having such powers will kill/defeat an omnipresent being.
edwinsz 4 months ago
@Shinigamimon looks like someone didn't read the last chapter of hellsing. Last time I checked Alucard is omnipresent because he absorbed Schrodinger and has only his soul left (plus his own). If you actually finished the series, you can tell Alucard remains perfectly in existence and unrestricted until he collects more souls. Soulfuck anyone?
edwinsz 4 months ago
And those who want to use Alucard/ shrodinger absorbed is pointless and stupid because it's only when he absorbed shrodinger did he fade out of existence dumbasses. So by those who argue that are actually not helping Alucard's cause in this argument.
Shinigamimon 4 months ago
@Shinigamimon Read the last chapter of Hellsing tard-cake. xD
rayovac2010 2 months ago
If you want another example, look at wrath of the dragon when Goku's power ( dragon fist) completly killed the immortal and technically untouchable Hirudigarn but that didn't stop Goku did it? Another one is if Goku wanted to fuse with Vegeta, and use stardust breaker would have the same effect on Alucard as it had on Janemba.
Shinigamimon 4 months ago
Goku could destroy entire planets but he's good, but Goku's fight with buu proves he would win against Alucard you see to Alucard Buu would be a true immortal, he can't die and doesn't age but Goku's power along with the energy of every thing on earth defied that logic and completely destroyed buu, so that very fact means Goku would win
Shinigamimon 4 months ago
@DJEvilYun of course
edwinsz 4 months ago
Contrary. The only DBZ character in which Alucard is overrated against is Buu. We're talking about an omnipresent vampire with a huge variety of power. I don't remember Goku being an universal+ buster nor is he immune to soulfuck.
edwinsz 4 months ago
@edwinsz GOku win period
DJEvilYun 4 months ago
alucard is cool but is he really this overrated??? goku is a planet destroyer. alucard has nothing to hurt him. Remember kids immortality is OVERRATED!!!
heretowatchvideos100 4 months ago
Le boy a Alucard, soy fan de Alucard.
DarkvirethaLilith 6 months ago
Hahaha Alucard would kill Goku, Alucard is Dracula. Plus the fact that he can never die, so even if he were blown to pieces he just regenerates and comes at Goku again. But that doesn't even need to be discussed because Alucard's too fast for Goku anyway lol Goku would be dead before he knew what hit him lol
Bestaced789 6 months ago
@Bestaced789 Um earth to retard! Goku's not human either or did you forget that he could simply destroy the earth and not even a vampire could survive in space...Sure Alucard can regenerate but you forgot that so could Majin Buu and he was way older than that vampire...
animelovnguy 6 months ago
@criticsharem
You are right that Goku would beat Alucard but I don't think even Goku is that strong to beat him in normal mode. Also Alucard would kill most of the other guys in DBZ like Nappa. So even if Goku can bet Alucard, Aluculd would be a good fight and would own most of the other characters (mainly villains the Goku beat).
TheGreyMagician 7 months ago
Well, both of them could beat one another. But I think that we have not seen all of Alucard's power yet. When he is at full power (level 0 or somthing) Goku has no chance as Alucard can summon ALL his familiars (that is somewhere in its 1,000,000s) and at least 10000 would be other vampires that Alucard has killed. In fact the only way Goku can win is if he used his Spirit Bomb attack but he would not have the time as Alucard would just be to fast.......
So Alucard at level 0 would kill Goku!
TheGreyMagician 7 months ago
@TheGreyMagician
Are you Alucard fan XD.
Goku is too strong even in normal mode.
Alucard familiar is nothing, they just undead nothing more. How can a spear could get goku hurt.
Goku no need to fight against his familiar.If he release level o, goku just need to destroy the planet and instantly move to where Elder kai live or king kai Planet. Well that seem unfair. Earth can't hold goku full power but Earth can hold alucard full power. Goku power is unfair for alucard.
criticsharem 7 months ago
@criticsharem You ask how a spear can harm Goku...I'm not exactly as DBZ-savvy as most, but say Goku and Trunks were to fight. Are you saying he woudn't have to dodge Trunks's Sword?
Man1cmanMario 6 months ago
Uhhh, they're both the same. Alucard is Goku, just at Super Saiyan Over 9,000. LOL.
SmilingProtoss 7 months ago
LOL Goku Shunkan Idō's (instant transmission's) Alucard into hell. Where he is repeatedly raped by gravity and ice which freezes souls, or raped by every other evil character Goku has defeated. (All of which are infinitely more powerful than Alucard, including Nappa.
Nappa two fingers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alucard.
(I mean, common. Goku surpassed divine beings (I.E GODS!) and EVERYONE on a universal scale.) Fuck, this would be more fair against Kid Goku.
Vilemk0 8 months ago
ahaha but no goku will beat alucard in two seconds (at his usual generous mood) by using insta trans him to space/ocean and victory by default. oh and btw has goku ever been shown to be a planet-buster. His Spirit bomb (won't kill alucard in one shot even if it's designed to kill evil trust me... it won't mean anything to alucard's health) is his most powerful move but has it ever been shown (even in GT) to destroy even half a planet? But course, it's Goku's win.
edwinsz 8 months ago
@lineagel2gold to let everyone know alucard is not immortal he would die if he fell into water...Read manga nerd.
mindeila 9 months ago
@mindeila REALLY? even post-schrodinger alucard?
this is a bad thing for him if it is the case, one instant transmission on the floor of the ocean, naturally before that he can even process what the hell is happening for avoid that he can disappear away (perfectly possible since goku is easly speedlight) and good bye my dear Count!!
Dour888 8 months ago
Goku
MaximusSteelflex 9 months ago
anybody else notice alucard is dracula spelled backward
TheBugster2u 9 months ago
@TheBugster2u lol no...alucard is dracula my friend...in the last gonzo episode we see alucards human face witch is vlad the impaler..who eventually becomes dracula..
123damed 7 months ago
man goku beats him in 1 sec
giorgarasTHEemperor 10 months ago
how does it take to channel spirit bomb or kamehameha?????
alucard's restriction can be released in seconds!!!! YEAH!!!!
MsSeKiRei 11 months ago
@MsSeKiRei I dont think alucards special abilities are able to affect Goku. The only way Alucard fights is by piercing through the skin of people by either bullets or his special abilities. Goku has really resistant skin -_- and his spirit bomb is designed to kill evil.
xxmannylee1992xx 9 months ago
Thanos would molest them both without breaking a swet!
OverLordRiper 1 year ago
Alucard obliterates most of his opponents using bullets, and can be ripped apart by them (although he regenerates). Even King Piccolo is unaffected by bullets. Though Alucard is omnipresent, and though he can regenerate like a motherfucker, I highly doubt he could truly harm Goku. His speed isn't as good and neither is his strength. Goku could blow up an entire planet pretty easily from the Frieza saga onward, I don't think Alucard has that ability.
VegitoVai90 1 year ago
@VegitoVai90 but how many times you see that alucard gots KIlled, like well MORE than gokus and some how the nigger gets always health and also if the enemies is so stronger he can be on sadistic mode and start eating his opponenet but in this case goku has a pretty speed and also the guy has special powers well, maybe goku would win if he don't get killed by alucard first.
JMRG2992 1 year ago
@JMRG2992
What kind of racist grammar-reducing drugs are you taking boy?
VegitoVai90 1 year ago
@VegitoVai90 didn't even speak english and ye i use coke or wtf it says.
JMRG2992 1 year ago
@JMRG2992 alucard has nothing against goku..goku already fought beings that regenerate like alucard...he surpassed everyone in the universe in life and death hell and earth...gokus attacks are pure energy that affects every thing ..goku can instant transmission alucard at the bottom of the ocean/hell/dead zone and its instant win
123damed 7 months ago
kosketina alucard has as many lives as he has killed(and he is an insane murderer who has lived decades so goku will die of old age before alucard is really dead)
karelnl1 1 year ago
Spirit bomb would beat Alucard but the problem is goku need time to create it and i doubt that Alucard would give goku the time he needs so the only way that goku can beat alucard is to teleport him on some far away planet on the end of universe and leave him there alucard cant teleport and cant fly so he would be stuck on that planet :D
kosketina 1 year ago
Are you guys forgetting about Goku's Spirit Bomb? It would completely annihilate Alucard.
CptnAura 1 year ago
Hellsing and Alucard are fuckin sick don't get me wrong,but Goku would win in the end.There is no such thing as immortality you fools even Alucard recognizes that.He is just VERY durable.No human weapon has come forth that has put Alucards life in danger.Goku is faster and more physically powerful than Alucard and his energy attacks would injure him I'm sure.A full power kamehameha or spirit bomb would probably be the only way to put him down permanently.
wisewarrior7 1 year ago
@wisewarrior7 Actually at the end of the manga there's only one way to kill him other than being omnipotent, and that's only if he loses his cognizance. Something no Dragonball Z character can do to Alucard, that and he becomes quantum omnipresent.
UnrighteousGod 1 year ago
@UnrighteousGod Oh I almost forgot I posted something on here.....How could we know that.Alucard has never been blasted with mindboglingly powerful energy attacks before
wisewarrior7 1 year ago
@wisewarrior7 He's been erased from all time, existence, life, reality, space and pretty much everything else. He no longer existed in any form, what so ever, in any life time, in any universe, in any reality. And yet, he came back. That is far more powerful than any devastating attack given from DBZ.
UnrighteousGod 1 year ago
@UnrighteousGod That is called bad writing and plotting.
TartarKid 1 year ago
@TartarKid Nah kid, not really. You want bad writing and plotting then look to DBZ. It's the same thing, over and over and over through out the hundreds of episodes it has. It's really not that good, at all. First few eps were great. Now it's just shit, and don't even get me started on Kai. V_V
UnrighteousGod 1 year ago
@UnrighteousGod goku can take planet busting hits...alucard can't do such attacks..furthermore ki blasts affects any type of energy(specially life energy -spirit bomb) and also we know that goku has a lot of relationship with the "dead"(because he was a few times dead) so...i'm sure that alucard can't do anything to him..and as for speed goku can do instant transmission..he can telleport himself from one part of the universe to another(witch alucard doesn't even have the knowledge)
123damed 1 year ago
@123damed It doesn't matter, Alucard is quantum omnipresent. The Dragon Balls are NOT omnipotent, they have limits to their wishing powers. They couldn't wish an omnipresence ability to not exist anywhere away, end of series Alucard trumps Goku in speed. He exists everywhere at once, that's billions of times faster than light, and both manga and anime Goku is only a portion of faster than light. He kills Goku from the inside out, easy as that.
UnrighteousGod 1 year ago
@UnrighteousGod buu tried to kill vegito from the inside out..it didn't work...alucard doesn't trump goku in speed goku has instant transmission (INSTANT witch is absolute in speed)...yes i know that omnipresent still beats instant transmission but dbz-vers is much greater than hellsing-verse universe>earth so goku and alucard are the same when it comes to speed
and dragon ball wish limit happens when a wish is made that affects a person(without his will) witch is stronger than the dragon
123damed 1 year ago
@UnrighteousGod alucard's best chance in goku vs alucard is a draw..alucards stays a floating thing (away from goku because ki blast and spirit bomb affects anything that has life energy)
-alucard can't attack gokus mind/spirit because goku had several relationship with the "DEAD" and his spirit is an essential thing of his battle-power also i have to mention that alucard needs blood to do his magic(infinite amount for restriction 0)..there is nothing that alucard can do to goku
123damed 1 year ago
@UnrighteousGod there are characters in dbz that can manipulate reality like picolo and bu and the dragon can erase alucard existence because it terms of brute force and spirit alucard isn't stronger than shenron(i think that is his name...)
123damed 1 year ago
alucard was beatable before he got schoinger when he gets him he is the only one who can end his own life but without schoinger goku blows up the planet and kills him so it really could go all sorts of ways not to mention dragon balls and that
MrSuprise22 1 year ago
@MrSuprise22 schoinger ? wats that ?
maatonne 1 year ago
@maatonne a being alucard absorbed
MrSuprise22 1 year ago
alucard uses his every where power to teleport into gokus head then makes him self now where making goku into nothingness so alucard wins
marshalparshal 1 year ago
@marshalparshal for the love of god some of the most common techniques is goku teleportation
anakin1174 1 year ago
@anakin1174 well he cant teleport out of nothingness im afraid
marshalparshal 1 year ago
goku can do .. SOLAR FLARE and charring to alucard .. restates the vampires Dim
anakin1174 1 year ago
alucard wins, alucard is more powerful, and inmortal
MrDharyuss 1 year ago
@MrDharyuss alucards immortal but he is no were near gokus strength and speed
Kiraislight19623 1 year ago
@Kiraislight19623 Actually he becomes quantum omnipresent at the end of the manga, so yeah, he's far more "powerful" than Goku, or any of the other Dragonball Z characters.
UnrighteousGod 1 year ago
allthough im a Hellsing fan, i have to say Goku. But, Alucard can regenate himself, and he can be everywere and nowere ( shrodingers ability ) and that makes him immortal.
but in powers, Goku is way stronger.
-Ice
iceidor 1 year ago
Alucard vs Goku Well I'm gonna go with Goku on this one. Don't get me wrong Alucard would put up a great fight but if he goes up against Goku well then there's just no way.
BUT I know who could beat them both up combined. It's THE GENOSAJI(the spoon demon from The horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon).
hellomrcritic 1 year ago
Go Goku! Beat Alucard's ass! I hate him! Goku's the best
CuteXiao93 1 year ago
Noobs Goku Can Beat Him Easily He Could Just Become A Super Saiyan And Just Blast Him Then Use His Super Kamehameha And If He Got Tired He Just Wish That Alucard To Become UnImmortal Then Hit Him With Super Kamehameha Then Caboom Goku Wins
SuperSaqer 1 year ago
im pretty sure goku wins this
MysticVegitoSSJ3 1 year ago
goku cannot kill alucard because only a human can kill a monster and goku is at least a demi-god.
cheesyguy12345 1 year ago
@cheesyguy12345 goku was never human to begin with, hes a saiyan, and goku still can beat alucard, alucard said that bcause he wanted his life to be taken bythe human anderson, bcause he didnt want to anderson turn into a monster to fight him, remember what alucard thinks about himself... he didnt want anderson to turn into that, if you remember well alucard even cried in that battle, like i said the saying "only a human can kill a monster" was just figure of speech
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
CONCLUSION: Son Goku wins
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein alucard wins , alucard is inmortal NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold ALUCARD IS NOT IMMORTAL NOR OMNIPRESENT, alucard stated immortality doesnt exist, he actually said that people that believe such thing are fools (he called you a fool, lol!), he also said he could be killed, gold....
youre a SUPER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBB!, congratulations! and unless youre gonna bring some FACTS that can prove the contrary, the discussion is over (you cant bcause im right, but i like to mention it as option)
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein stupid, see the complete anime, it says there is no way to kill him when fight with Walter, I think, I do not remember against whom.
The solo can die through who knows your program integrates memory.
you're a noob and do not even know some things.
opinion before watching the anime FULL
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold as i xpected... you came back PUTTING BS, ive already watched the complete anime (wich is not canon you idiot), the manga (read it all a few months ago) and ive watched all the ovas that have come out, the only things he has staten is that X character(s) can not beat him (bcause theyre 2 weak) and that immortality does not exist, you didnt put a quote, nor statement, all you cam back with is an un-existing statement (wich you dont remember when he said it bcause it didnt happen)
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein there is only one idiot OVA
and the other is a kind of alternative hellsing
and it shows, if you're as good as you say no would be saying that goku wins when alucard is cut in half with his hand
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold nooo... the other ovas is the TRUE hellsing, have you not read the manga? the anime was a "spin-off" the true manga adaption is being done in the hellsing ultimate OVAs in wich he has stated already immortality does not exist, are you really arguing this then without having seen the true story? god....
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein you are more stupid than I thought. I'm talking about anime on TV. OVA Yase there are several manga noob. And alucard can only be overridden by integrating or breaking its regeneration system -.-
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold there are only 2 hellsing manga you fucking noob, hellsing and hellsing: the dawn, see? youve already gone desperate, now youre putting the anime above the original story, guess what... i think what the author of hellsing wrote is more legitimate then some guys who had to put a filler ending wrote... but hey, if you wanna denie facts go ahead, youre just proving the idiot noob you are, you have completely shown disregard and ignorance of hellsing storyline
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold p.d. anime alucard can also be beaten by goku, if he completely desintigrates alucard, there would be no regenaration capabilities left, actually, anime alucard is probable even weaker than manga and ova alucard...
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein goku kills attacks alucard
alucard revives, Goku killed him, revive alucard
alucard tires goku free stamps and eats it with the Jackal
noob?
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold oooo, yeah, a man that trains several days straight and has more energy than millions of people together will tire out from bashing alucard millions of times... wait why is this discussion still going on? i already proved your points wrong, now your saying alucard wins bcause goku gets tired? accept it already goku wins
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein that stupid idiot you are ouhhh
if you see Goku, Veera the low goku ki
transforms into ssj and picks up your ki down little by little
you are a child of 14 who thinks he knows everything but really know nothing of anime
sige best with your sponge bob
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold hahaha,sore loser, normal goku has over ten tons of physical power in each of his arms and is hypersonic, he can bash alucards head without going SS, and goku SS3 is lightspeed, he can kill alucard millions of times in minutes, you are an idiot and ignorant loser, im probably older than you. i obviously know more much than U, ive already proved you wrong everytime, and then you changed arguments, youre just an alutard that cant accept alucard loses, goodbye, ive won the discussion
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein more especifically he has around 100 tons of pure force on each arm
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein jajajaajajajajjajajaajjajajaja alucard , and the seal 3 has an incomparable strength the could easily eat it with the jackal, you're an idiot go see Teletubbies
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold sore loser, lightspeed = 30,000,000 hits per second, in a few mins alucard would b dead, he wouldnt even see gokus SS3 attacks , describe you, stubborn, ignorant and sore loser, anybody thats not an alucard fanboy like you can see it, ive won, im right, ive proven you wrong everytime, you no longer put arguments, you just put your opinion (wich is crap), and how would you even put arguments, when you didnt know the ovas where the canon storyline? you dont know shit about hellsing
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold nor about DBZ, stop arguing on things you dont now about, and stop putting childish offenses, teletubbies, hahaha, if you know something about psycology you should when people put irrelevant ofenses like yours it bcause their naming their own defects, so, did you use too like teletubbies and spongebob or do you still like them? (note: not my opinion, thats phsycology)
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein ahm ... nothing to do xD
alucard is that bone is obvious that goku beats an idiot and I hate when I say otherwise
I'm a fan of DBZ, hellsing and many more series. And who is better than who
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold to resume this, what does your comment mean?
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold BTW i correct myself, hits have to extend AND retreat and suffer other minimal setbacks, so it should be around 10,000,000 punches per second, not 30,000,000
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein hahaha give me grace, are ignorant
improve end the conversation here because I have other more important things to do, and do not want to waste my time with a fool
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold hahaha, pathetic excuse, you know im right, in EVERYTHING, go watch the teletubbies and spongebob, doesnt really matter to me since ive won this discussion, ignorant prick
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold hahaha, calling "important things to do" watching the teletubbies and spongebob... now ive seen everything
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein bla blaa blaaaa
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold LOL, apparently you DONT have more important things 2 do, well, i do, since ive already proved you wrong there is no necessity for me to stay here, so goodbye
itachizetsupein 1 year ago
@itachizetsupein bla blaa blaaaaaaaa
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold dude it doesn't matter if alucard is immortal. immortals have lost fights before.
MysticVegitoSSJ3 1 year ago
@MysticVegitoSSJ3 you are noob? alucard always wins
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold lol i am a noob, but i still think goku wins
MysticVegitoSSJ3 1 year ago
@MysticVegitoSSJ3 ajJAJajJAJJJAJAjajJJAJjajjajjajajaJAjajJAJajJAJjaJAJjajajA .... noob
lineagel2gold 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold once alucard fights some1 who can bust planets he will be able to fight goku, immortality won't mean u will win.
MysticVegitoSSJ3 1 year ago
@lineagel2gold Goku would obliterate Alucard in 1 ki blast. Alucard wouldn't even beat Krillin.
MaximusSteelflex 9 months ago
@MaximusSteelflex jajajaj noob alucard is inmortal NOOB
lineagel2gold 9 months ago
@lineagel2gold I believe the word you were attempting to spell was immortal. And even if he was immortal it wouldn't matter against someone like Goku. He could just beat him until he is a paralyzed vegetable then instant transmission him to the dead zone.
MaximusSteelflex 8 months ago
@MaximusSteelflex you're right
redrhum31 8 months ago
@MaximusSteelflex maybe goku can defeat him but krillin has got nothing on alucard...
zzkzion10009 8 months ago
before schrodinger, goku would win. after schrodinger, alucard would win
cheesyguy12345 1 year ago
@cheesyguy12345 How would Alucard win? Secondly, why do people claim GT Goku not to be cannon, when the dude who made Goku gave them the rights to the show? Technically it's considered cannon, and Goku quite literally became god once he absorbed the dragon balls. I guess that's irrelevant to my first question though.
Vilemk0 1 year ago
@Vilemk0 alucard cant defeat goku, but he can control him, also YOU explain me, how could goku kill alucard.
hawnkblade 1 year ago
@hawnkblade I've told you multiple times. Are you serious? Have you read anything I've said? I gave you a shit load of examples. However, the most effective one I can imagine would be Genki Dama. It completely destroys anything not pure of heart. It is a technique taught to Goku from the gods themselves... You know what? I'm not going to explain this AGAIN! Learn to read.
Vilemk0 1 year ago
@Vilemk0 okk, maybe alucard could not control nor kill goku, but goku also cannot defeat/kill/control alucard, its a draw.
hawnkblade 1 year ago