Mike Papantonio is got to be the dumbest man alive. All he cares about doing is saying, if they did it so can we. Both parties need to shut the hell up and start doing what is right for the people. They are all pigs.
whining republicans....pshhh this guy is trash. and so is the guy who posted this. 170 billion over 8 years? 75% where tax cuts. im pretty sure that obama just passed the 787 Billion dollar stimulus bill in just over a month of office. than on top of that the new 410 Billion about to be passed. this chump is pointing the finger at republicans just like Barney Frank...and who made Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae go under? Barney Frank.
Does Mike Papantonio ever give an answer to any question that doesn't involve blaming Republicans? If you asked him what time it was, he would answer by blaming Republicans for not supporting the government giving all poor people watches so they would never have to ask anyone for the time. What a jackass!!
I love my country but I hate this government ! These fuckers all need to be thrown out of office ! They are all friggin' crooks and it makes me sick that Americans don't put a stop to this bullshit ! Keep piling it on , you've almost got this country destroyed ! Soon you'll see Chinese and Arab oil rigs being erected all over our great nation !
You made your point about the Republicans. So "Change" meant to do the same as the Republicans did to this country, waste more taxpayer money and pile more debt on future generations ?You can free up lenders all you want , but who is going to be fool enough to borrow money in a shit economy like this one ? I'm thinking save,save,save ! Not borrow,spend,borrow,spend during this crisis ! What a bunch of thieves and liars
Why must the libs be so emotional? Why can't they just answer a simple question without deferment. If the problem is that we have spent too much, then the solution is to cut back and find alternatives that do work. Mr. Mike Papantonio, if you are not working on solving the problem then you ARE the problem...shut up and listen! There are ways to fix our issues other than amending a 77 year old farm bill that has been updated nearly a 1000 times already...void it and build a new one!!
This stimulus is an ominous sign that Obambi will be a 1 TERM EPIC FAIL and will lose to Sarah Palin in 2012. This country does not need a stimulus and more government spending to help the global economy. No, the world needs Palinomics. Palinomics will save the world economy from a global depression, greater than Reaganomics and Clintonomics. Palinomics is blessed with the divine power of GOD HERSELF for Palin is GOD's CHOSEN ONE, GOD INCARNATE and the LIVING EMBODIMENT OF GOD HERSELF!
and about the golf carts: they are sometimes used at hospitals, college campuses and retirement communities, and can cost around $8,000 each. They don't produce carbon emissions."
we're trying to green America and help the environment, how is that pork?
Golf carts still use electricity that comes from a polluting power plant, so it's still carbon emissions but from a different source. And how is using taxpayer money to buy golf carts going to produce jobs?
How is a coal-fired electricity plant BETTER than a gas engine? Coal is just as polluting as gasoline (if not more). Do you know anything about where our energy comes from in this country? If you were talking about going nuclear, I would be with you, but it only represents 20% of our power generation in the US. And alternative energy represents less than 1%, so your golf carts (more than likely) are getting their juice from a polluting, coal fired power plant. Sorry, try again...
well to be honest idk where it comes from, but yes coal is horrible. but still it seems that this admin. is serious about a green economy which i am happy about. even if the golf carts were pork, (which one persons pork is anothers great idea and vice versa) such a small amount of the stimulus is considered that. we just can't afford to make perfect the enemy of the necessary
Listen and learn...when asked to justify items in the bill, the answer is not to discuss the previous administrations mistakes, but to instead discuss the merits of the bill...the leftists dont do this because they know the items in the bill is pork, and run the like the cowards they are and bash bush, who by the way is not president...Remeber you Obamalites, obama ran his campaign on CHANGE...so prove it and show how he is different, rather than how he compares....take that leftists...
he's just saying they shouldn't being whining like babies now because they didn't before, and that stuff is not pork so he doesn't need to make a case for them.
People believe that Honey bees are not important, but according to all scientific sources, they are being devastated by environmental factors--Human chemicals, polution.
Within 10 years, it could be 5 -10 times more expensive to pollinate and germinate certain crops--and they are important as hell. ( I watched 2 History Channel specials, started out boring, then scared the shit out of me, Ididn't know it was such big business)
They literally truck 100 of milllions of bees around to fields!
Many of the things in the stimulus are well-intentioned, but they have no business being in a STIMULUS BILL!! Swine odor studies & water parks in FL have nothing to do with creating jobs. Honey bee research may be important, but please tell me why it belongs in a job stimulus bill. If taxpayers really think it's important, then introduce another bill & try and get it passed. The reason it was put in THIS bill was because they knew it wouldn't never pass because people don't think it's important.
Government is non-productive. They don't produce anything. All of them are to blame for this economy. The past 30 years of Government Spending, poorly run programs and bad policies. More spending and no reform are not going to lead us out of this. That is common sense. They are spending our money the taxpayer has to pay this back. The bigger government spending the slower the growth of the economy. In history rapid growth happens when there is less Government.
Typical liberal - logic isn't based in irrational emotions, nor self- centred childishness; therefore, they simply can't address it. It's the equivalent of disscussing an issue with a poorly raised child. Give him 4 HOURS and he'd still be carrying on like a belligerant little boy about how everything he does should be excused because Tommy did it too.
Typical of the left, when challenged about pork, resort to attacking republicans...the leftists cannot explain the pork, they instead support it. pure leftist cowardice
The truth about the pork is not clear. You can be this FOX news guy isn't giving us the truth.
In any event, the "leftists" don't care what the republicans are saying and don't attempt to "explain" anything they demand because they control all levels of government.
If the rightwingers controlled all three levels of government would they explain anything? No. Yould you call it cowardice? Did you call it cowardice when it happened? Of course not.
I remember Rush Limbaugh yelling at the Democrats: "Shut up! When you win an election you can do whatever you want. Until then, shut up." Ok. Democrats did win an election, so now it is his turn to stfu. Right?
I've asked this of you guys before, GoLeft, when oh when are we going to see any of those rightwing, self rightious, jerks from fox news on your station trying to defend their stupidity? I keep seeing the Pap taking the fight to them, but it would be nice to see them standing their grounds on your turf.
A republican friend of mine insists that there are dog parks (she calls them "pork" too) in this stimulus package... Does anyone know if this is even true. Because if so, then I can agree that we don't need that right now, but the bee insurance and other environmental stuff makes a lot of sense to me. So do the funds for infrastructure like bridges and dams. Does anyone know if there's an online list of the programs included in the package?
Even if there were dog parks in the package, someone would have to build them. I'm not aware of an online list yet, but any spending on infrastructure (yes, even parks) that create jobs is fine with me- better a silly job than no job, and I don't think parks are silly.
This Cavuto guy called pell grants pork! WTF is wrong with republicans anymore?
The bottom line is that almost all pork can be justified at some level. Pap didn't do a very good job, OTOH, he is not an expert in bees or Pell Grants, and can't be expected to answer about such things. But I bet an expert in those areas could explain them. The digital TV coupons is because the government didn't budget enough to cover the cost of all the coupons it issued. They expected more people to buy HDTVs, but with the economy in the crapper it didn't happen.
Explaining what they are is not the problem or the issue. Explaining how they belong is a "Stimulus Bill" is. How does 30 million dollars for wildlife preserve because it has a mouse listed on the endangered species list stimulate the economy? 21 million dollars to re-sod the National Mall Lawn that the Obama Inauguration trashed. How would that give jobs to more than a few dozen people for a week or two? Thats 21 about $144,000.00 per acre.
Only fox and conservatives will yell pork when they porked this country into the ground LOL!! On a side note the bees are used to pollen farms. If we don't do research to take care of the invasion by the africanized honey bees that are destroying honey bee farms IT will be hard to grow crops! I wish conservative so called journalists would read a science book now and again LOL!! Oh btw honeybee industry employees people!
Hear Hear, Well said and yes Bees are worth it. People just do not realize how much we depend upon bees for human survival. It would create jobs. One love.
Neil Cavuto is waaaaay out of touch. More tax cuts, more tax cuts, because those helped --- yeah right! I don't care about the excess "pork". I care about the attempt to help Americans out of this mess.
We need to go in and take the bad assets off the books of every bank in America..period. Once the banks start to lend and are trusted to be solvent, we can move on and continue to grow.
The guy would have kicked more ass if he had actually answered the question. I still dont know why we shouldnt care.
teddybruscie 1 year ago
Mike Papantonio is got to be the dumbest man alive. All he cares about doing is saying, if they did it so can we. Both parties need to shut the hell up and start doing what is right for the people. They are all pigs.
def2369 1 year ago
the guy on the right completely ignored the question and went on the attack
nddavi58 2 years ago
whining republicans....pshhh this guy is trash. and so is the guy who posted this. 170 billion over 8 years? 75% where tax cuts. im pretty sure that obama just passed the 787 Billion dollar stimulus bill in just over a month of office. than on top of that the new 410 Billion about to be passed. this chump is pointing the finger at republicans just like Barney Frank...and who made Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae go under? Barney Frank.
Z4N30 3 years ago
Does Mike Papantonio ever give an answer to any question that doesn't involve blaming Republicans? If you asked him what time it was, he would answer by blaming Republicans for not supporting the government giving all poor people watches so they would never have to ask anyone for the time. What a jackass!!
thinkingrationally 3 years ago
I love my country but I hate this government ! These fuckers all need to be thrown out of office ! They are all friggin' crooks and it makes me sick that Americans don't put a stop to this bullshit ! Keep piling it on , you've almost got this country destroyed ! Soon you'll see Chinese and Arab oil rigs being erected all over our great nation !
11ranger413 3 years ago
My thoughts exactly! I have no faith in our leaders to get us out of this mess. The American people are the solution, not Washington bureaucrats!
thinkingrationally 3 years ago
You made your point about the Republicans. So "Change" meant to do the same as the Republicans did to this country, waste more taxpayer money and pile more debt on future generations ?You can free up lenders all you want , but who is going to be fool enough to borrow money in a shit economy like this one ? I'm thinking save,save,save ! Not borrow,spend,borrow,spend during this crisis ! What a bunch of thieves and liars
11ranger413 3 years ago
Why must the libs be so emotional? Why can't they just answer a simple question without deferment. If the problem is that we have spent too much, then the solution is to cut back and find alternatives that do work. Mr. Mike Papantonio, if you are not working on solving the problem then you ARE the problem...shut up and listen! There are ways to fix our issues other than amending a 77 year old farm bill that has been updated nearly a 1000 times already...void it and build a new one!!
WilliamBurdine 3 years ago
This stimulus is an ominous sign that Obambi will be a 1 TERM EPIC FAIL and will lose to Sarah Palin in 2012. This country does not need a stimulus and more government spending to help the global economy. No, the world needs Palinomics. Palinomics will save the world economy from a global depression, greater than Reaganomics and Clintonomics. Palinomics is blessed with the divine power of GOD HERSELF for Palin is GOD's CHOSEN ONE, GOD INCARNATE and the LIVING EMBODIMENT OF GOD HERSELF!
ecwaufisxtreme 3 years ago
and about the golf carts: they are sometimes used at hospitals, college campuses and retirement communities, and can cost around $8,000 each. They don't produce carbon emissions."
we're trying to green America and help the environment, how is that pork?
gotSelena 3 years ago
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StrongerMarysville 3 years ago
Golf carts still use electricity that comes from a polluting power plant, so it's still carbon emissions but from a different source. And how is using taxpayer money to buy golf carts going to produce jobs?
thinkingrationally 3 years ago 3
electricity is better though.
and it isn't ALL about saving jobs,
yes most of it is, but it's also about alternative energy to SAVE us money.
gotSelena 3 years ago
How is a coal-fired electricity plant BETTER than a gas engine? Coal is just as polluting as gasoline (if not more). Do you know anything about where our energy comes from in this country? If you were talking about going nuclear, I would be with you, but it only represents 20% of our power generation in the US. And alternative energy represents less than 1%, so your golf carts (more than likely) are getting their juice from a polluting, coal fired power plant. Sorry, try again...
thinkingrationally 3 years ago
well to be honest idk where it comes from, but yes coal is horrible. but still it seems that this admin. is serious about a green economy which i am happy about. even if the golf carts were pork, (which one persons pork is anothers great idea and vice versa) such a small amount of the stimulus is considered that. we just can't afford to make perfect the enemy of the necessary
gotSelena 3 years ago
"well to be honest idk where it comes from"
i mean i do know where the energy for our country comes from, but i don't know where the energy for the golf carts would be going
gotSelena 3 years ago
Listen and learn...when asked to justify items in the bill, the answer is not to discuss the previous administrations mistakes, but to instead discuss the merits of the bill...the leftists dont do this because they know the items in the bill is pork, and run the like the cowards they are and bash bush, who by the way is not president...Remeber you Obamalites, obama ran his campaign on CHANGE...so prove it and show how he is different, rather than how he compares....take that leftists...
thatsnice99 3 years ago
he's just saying they shouldn't being whining like babies now because they didn't before, and that stuff is not pork so he doesn't need to make a case for them.
gotSelena 3 years ago
People believe that Honey bees are not important, but according to all scientific sources, they are being devastated by environmental factors--Human chemicals, polution.
Within 10 years, it could be 5 -10 times more expensive to pollinate and germinate certain crops--and they are important as hell. ( I watched 2 History Channel specials, started out boring, then scared the shit out of me, Ididn't know it was such big business)
They literally truck 100 of milllions of bees around to fields!
garthggarth 3 years ago
yes that's true, i don't see that as pork
gotSelena 3 years ago
Many of the things in the stimulus are well-intentioned, but they have no business being in a STIMULUS BILL!! Swine odor studies & water parks in FL have nothing to do with creating jobs. Honey bee research may be important, but please tell me why it belongs in a job stimulus bill. If taxpayers really think it's important, then introduce another bill & try and get it passed. The reason it was put in THIS bill was because they knew it wouldn't never pass because people don't think it's important.
thinkingrationally 3 years ago
Government is non-productive. They don't produce anything. All of them are to blame for this economy. The past 30 years of Government Spending, poorly run programs and bad policies. More spending and no reform are not going to lead us out of this. That is common sense. They are spending our money the taxpayer has to pay this back. The bigger government spending the slower the growth of the economy. In history rapid growth happens when there is less Government.
quizerry 3 years ago 5
Typical liberal - logic isn't based in irrational emotions, nor self- centred childishness; therefore, they simply can't address it. It's the equivalent of disscussing an issue with a poorly raised child. Give him 4 HOURS and he'd still be carrying on like a belligerant little boy about how everything he does should be excused because Tommy did it too.
TheSharpenedPen 3 years ago 5
why can't we just agree that pork is pork no matter who is asking for it.
SevenSins004 3 years ago
republicans are racists
quest8899 3 years ago
Typical of the left, when challenged about pork, resort to attacking republicans...the leftists cannot explain the pork, they instead support it. pure leftist cowardice
thatsnice99 3 years ago
The truth about the pork is not clear. You can be this FOX news guy isn't giving us the truth.
In any event, the "leftists" don't care what the republicans are saying and don't attempt to "explain" anything they demand because they control all levels of government.
If the rightwingers controlled all three levels of government would they explain anything? No. Yould you call it cowardice? Did you call it cowardice when it happened? Of course not.
Regardless of what they do, try on some honesty
canadpol 3 years ago
I remember Rush Limbaugh yelling at the Democrats: "Shut up! When you win an election you can do whatever you want. Until then, shut up." Ok. Democrats did win an election, so now it is his turn to stfu. Right?
MrJBoma 3 years ago
papantonio is not an effective spokesman for the left... get barney frank!
bbbbmer 3 years ago
I've asked this of you guys before, GoLeft, when oh when are we going to see any of those rightwing, self rightious, jerks from fox news on your station trying to defend their stupidity? I keep seeing the Pap taking the fight to them, but it would be nice to see them standing their grounds on your turf.
adFC 3 years ago
A republican friend of mine insists that there are dog parks (she calls them "pork" too) in this stimulus package... Does anyone know if this is even true. Because if so, then I can agree that we don't need that right now, but the bee insurance and other environmental stuff makes a lot of sense to me. So do the funds for infrastructure like bridges and dams. Does anyone know if there's an online list of the programs included in the package?
faething 3 years ago
Even if there were dog parks in the package, someone would have to build them. I'm not aware of an online list yet, but any spending on infrastructure (yes, even parks) that create jobs is fine with me- better a silly job than no job, and I don't think parks are silly.
This Cavuto guy called pell grants pork! WTF is wrong with republicans anymore?
madamezora7 3 years ago
The bottom line is that almost all pork can be justified at some level. Pap didn't do a very good job, OTOH, he is not an expert in bees or Pell Grants, and can't be expected to answer about such things. But I bet an expert in those areas could explain them. The digital TV coupons is because the government didn't budget enough to cover the cost of all the coupons it issued. They expected more people to buy HDTVs, but with the economy in the crapper it didn't happen.
MrJBoma 3 years ago
Explaining what they are is not the problem or the issue. Explaining how they belong is a "Stimulus Bill" is. How does 30 million dollars for wildlife preserve because it has a mouse listed on the endangered species list stimulate the economy? 21 million dollars to re-sod the National Mall Lawn that the Obama Inauguration trashed. How would that give jobs to more than a few dozen people for a week or two? Thats 21 about $144,000.00 per acre.
ClassicFIHD 3 years ago
I just cannot watch Fox News any time. Sorry.
They are so unprofessional. One-
speciesamused 3 years ago
Only fox and conservatives will yell pork when they porked this country into the ground LOL!! On a side note the bees are used to pollen farms. If we don't do research to take care of the invasion by the africanized honey bees that are destroying honey bee farms IT will be hard to grow crops! I wish conservative so called journalists would read a science book now and again LOL!! Oh btw honeybee industry employees people!
ArkeAngelRevonulet 3 years ago
Hear Hear, Well said and yes Bees are worth it. People just do not realize how much we depend upon bees for human survival. It would create jobs. One love.
speciesamused 3 years ago
Get rid of bees! They take pollination jobs out of the hands of real Americans.
MrJBoma 3 years ago
Roflmao!! American honeybees are people too!!
ArkeAngelRevonulet 3 years ago
Neil Cavuto is waaaaay out of touch. More tax cuts, more tax cuts, because those helped --- yeah right! I don't care about the excess "pork". I care about the attempt to help Americans out of this mess.
DisturbedInOhio 3 years ago
We need to go in and take the bad assets off the books of every bank in America..period. Once the banks start to lend and are trusted to be solvent, we can move on and continue to grow.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
Well, here's Fox as usual--make statements then don't let people answer them.
Frackin64 3 years ago