I remember when this happened - I was 9 years old and lived in Sioux City at the time. Big plume of smoke from the airport - my best friend's dad was a firefighter and there helping survivors along with every emergency crew from nearby towns and 3 states.
I was a little kid when this crash happened, but I very clearly remember seeing about it on the news. I'll never forget the video of the plane tumbling in the ground in a fireball. I still can't believe that ANYONE actually survived that crash. When I saw the video on the news, I had always assumed that everyone was killed. You would never believe that anyone could have possibly survived that. This is the first time I've actually heard a recording from the cockpit, and it's pretty chilling.
The Jerry Schemmel guy who saved a little baby from the wreckage talked to my school (he came back to his hometown), he's a very nice guy and very brave
I am simply astonished at how many lives were saved in this tragedy. From the footage of the crash it is inconcievable that anyone was able to survive this. My condolences to those that lost their lives in this accident but
All of that flight crew were heroes. Including one United pilot who was dead heading back as a passenger and came to the cockpit to assist in steering the plane via engine throttles. In hindsight, would it have been better to foam the runway and try to do a belly flop, or if the gear can get down you try a conventional landing?
First of all, it is the flight board I am yelling at, saying they "are all dead" , and I am glad about that. Mainly, b/c they failed. Man was not meant to fly. You idiots, you did this to yourself. You made plane, and what did you think, that this was never going to happen. Flight =death. bIRDS ARE MEANT TO FLY , not people. I would not say i am glad all the birds are dead, because it will never happen. Have you ever heard of a bird going down because it's wing fell off in flight, no. So, stfu!
@30inventionman You deserve to have your ass kicked for a comment like that, you retarded motherfucker. The person who we don't care about is you, since you're such a moronic fuck-up. Go fuck yourself, you asshole.
Amazing recording of high-intensity focus, leadership and teamwork. You can tell the team is fully aware of the high stakes but still maintains composure. The description does not contain the cause. I believe there was a hair-line fracture in the tail engine blade which disintegrated in-flight, slicing all hydraulic lines which converged in that section of the plane. Hydraulics power the wings' elevators used to steer the plane. They improvised, alternating thrust of the two remaining engines.
..."I really have my doubts that we will be standing up honey"...
For about a year or so, susequent to the investigation, several major airlines set up the parameters of this accident on full motion, full dynamic environment simulators (Level D/Type 7 FFS OTW) and nobody was able to duplicate the landing as it occurred IRL,.
The common result was no survivors in every case.
The fact that there were 5 Pilots in the cockpit played a big role but the Will To Live was the deciding factor.
I knew the pilot I remember him umping little league games when I use to play when I was a kid. when I first saw his picture on tv I recognized his face then I found how I knew him . Al is a great and humble person
@kanolee907 Just met him today, he did a talk at my school for us Flight Instructors...he's got a great sense of humor, everything you hear on the Cockpit voice and ATC transcript, he is still that way.
Al Haynes is your Uncle? That's awesome. And yeah, he did one hell of a job, under those circumstances, getting that aircraft on the ground. I had heard that years later, the surviving passengers had all chipped in to help Capt. Haynes with the cancer surgery of one of his family members.
As his great niece, this video makes me very proud. Obviously there was a tremendous loss of life but because of his skill and the skill of those around him, they were able to save more than half the people on that plane. Well done Uncle Al:)
"So we're gonna have to evacuate, then?" "Well -- we're gonna have the gear down." That, friends, is the sound of a lead flight attendant being disabused by her captain of a *wicked* case of denial.
AKA, Another reason I DRIVE!!! If its over sea, I dont go! My truck is alot less likely to many if any major problems at 65 MPH, even if it does, Id be safer. Plus I enjoy driving.
seems like they need other back up systems,everything relies to much on electronics nowadays.....or hydraulics,like they found out,you lose pressure,you have little control....a least they tried with the Engines to control it as much as they could!.......Good job by the crew even though there were fatalities.
@redsoxfan426 Capt. Sully had full control of the aircraft unlike in this accident. To ditch a plane succesfully without breaking it you need to be in right angle, which would be almost impossible to do with without full control of the plane.
Landing to the ground is usually much better choise than water landing, when most of the times its more like crashing to the water. Survival rate of water landings is much worse than landing on the ground...
@redsoxfan426 as mentioned Capt Sully had full control of his flight control. He though he lost his engines he could keep his wings level and nose up. To say these guys didn't think is a huge insult to them. All they had was thrust and they had one shot to line it up with the runway.They did have time to search out a river with boats. It is truly amazing that what Capt Haynes, Denny Fitch & the other members of the flight crew were able to do. U232 and sully were way different circumstances.
@redsoxfan426 They had virtually no control of the aircraft! Sully had everything but thrust, and he was able to control his plane as a glider. Ditching in water was the last resort for Sully -- he wanted to get to an airport in NY or NJ but was too low and couldn't take a chance of crashing into buildings and killing people. His preference was to land on a runway, not in water. Water is the most dangerous place to try to land an aircraft.
@hrugga36 Do you know why water is the most dangerous place to land an aircraft? I do not; and, would think it would be the safer option, as water is highly more malleable than hard land. Please, if you can explain this, I'd love to know. :) Thank you. (And this question's open to anyone who would like to help me understand.)
Uh...First, I agree with Douglas, in that water, when hit from a distance of more than 100 feet, has a similar surface tension to that of concrete. Second, have you ever thought how many survivors of this crash would have died buckled into their seats if Capt. Al had tried to ditch in the river? Having said that, I believe that Al Haynes and Dennis Fitch (as well as the rest of the crew) are nothing short of heroes, and KevHaynes should be extremely proud to call Al, "Uncle".
@NebetSeta you are thinking of water at low speeds. At higher speeds it does not give much more than dirt would. Also, when you hit land, at an angle, it tends to flatten the angle and much of your momentum changes to forward motion so you slide. In water, the part of the plane with the least resistance (the nose) tends to drop further resulting in a pitch over and discenegration of the plane. Want to see how soft water is? Jump into a pool from 30 feet and hit face first.
Additionally, water usually isn't glassy smooth, especially in the open sea...the nose could dig into a trough or a wing could "crab" into a wave; in either case you'd probably cartwheel and break apart (re. the video for the Ethiopian AL attempted ditching off the Comoros)
This is an outstanding computer animation....I loved the DC-10 and miss it a great deal. I was blessed to fly twice on a DC-10-30 to & from Hawaii, a Northwest Orient.
But according to the NTSB report (which I have all but memorized), there were two errors in this video: first being that it clearly shows the aircraft flying over the city of Sioux City. This is proven false by radar hits. Secondly, they show landing on runway 17. While this would have been a much more beneficial runway to land on, they simply couldn't maneuver to it. So they landed on Rwy 22 (a closed runway that, after a brief moment of pucker factor by ATC, was cleared quickly).
I honestly do not believe that I can not add any additional encomiums to those laid upon Captain Al Haynes, First Officer Bill Records, Flight Engineer Dudly Dvorak, and dead-heading flight instructor Denny Fitch. What they managed to overcome was proven by simulator to be physically impossible until the advent of the fly-by-wire two-pilot MD-11 over 10 years after this incident (and before any other anal retentive goober comments, yes, I'm aware that the MD-11 was different from the DC10. But..
A truly heroic performance! Allthough everyone never made it........that plane had no right to even make it to the airport, so my hats off to the crew!
The aircraft eventually broke up during an emergency landing on the runway at Sioux City, Iowa, killing 111 of its 285 passengers and one of the 11 crew members.
Owing to the skill of the crew and a DC-10 instructor pilot who happened to be a passenger on the aircraft, 174 passengers and 10 crew members survived the crash. The disaster is considered an example of successful Crew Resource Management, due to the effective use of all available resources for help during the emergency.[2]
i can doo better than them just cut engines off when ur close to the runway turn flaps to 100 percent then stay balanced and at leastland on one side of the runway and while u land ull slowly goto the opposite side, when the pilot said left u should of that what i would've done
Brilliant job by that flight crew. The DC-10 proved in time to be a fine airframe but, it had a couple of design flaws. Especially the grouping of the hydraulic lines both the main and backups. This proved fatal in the crash of American 191 and obviously played a part in this incident.
@chackles82 It's noted (in a talk by Captain Haynes himself) that during one of his six month recurrent training sessions in the sim, when the GPWS was squawking "PULL UP" due to the simulated emergency during training, The "Controller" cleared him to land, to which he replied "United 232, cleared to land." Both pilots denied it until they listened to the sim tapes. According to Capt. Haynes, that was the eye opener about just how real PTSD really is.
If you want to get technical with it, then its 112 lives lost. There was a women who was preganet and she died and then so did her baby. She was due in a month.
I just read this and it brought tears to my eyes... and may be another reason why this amazing crew was so afraid. It was apparently Children's Day on that plane....
"Fifty-two children, including four lap children, were on board the flight due to the United Airlines "Children's Day" promotion. Eleven children, including one lap child, died. Many of the children had traveled alone."
Imagine being a child, on that plane by yourself and going through that crash?
This crew meant business. They did EVERYTHING they could, didn't sit there holding on to the radio depending on gauges and air traffic control. They were out of their seats trying to find the problem and trying to get that damn plane back in safely. Amazing work, I would feel very safe having these people at the controls on any flight I was on. May the ones who died rest in peace and the ones who survived find comfort. How scary that must have been to go through.
@farzanjava The number two engine failed when the fan disk failed because it cracked. When the crack became too big, it broke in 2 and sent shrapnel flying. The shrapnel severed all 3 of the hydraulic lines which controled virtually everything (including flaps, rudder, ailerons, etc) except for the ability to change thrust on the wing mounted engines. The number 2 engine could not be adjusted because it was no longer working, although the thrust lever was stuck in the "on" position.
The DC-10 was a reasonably safe design, it's crashes were mostly due to poor maintenence and pilot errors.
As to the MD-11 comment, they are no safer than DC-10's. Th MD-11 was originally slated to be the DC-10 series 60, a planned stretch of the airframe. Douglas failed to market the aircraft very well and was bought by Boeing who were never interested in competitive designs that were not their own, they were only interested in the military contracts that Douglas had- ie F-15,F-18,etc....
My Uncle lived 7 miles from the crash. I remember as a kid and now as an adult talking to him about it. In his words, "the most incredible, yet erie thing I ever witnessed". I still have the pictures he took of the bellowing smoke. I have seen a house fire when I was young and thought that was erie, but a plane crash.............
I seen this crash on air crash investigation and it says: engine on the tail has its fan blade tore off putting holes into the tail while lossing hydraulics.
The amazing thing with this flight outside of the job the pilots did getting it as close as they did is if they had somehow safely landed, almost no one would have ever heard of it and what a great landing it would have been.
There is a television show called I Survived that just had the Pilot, the senior flight attendant and one of the survivors tell the story. Check it out if you can. One more thing, I wish people with disagreements could make them without calling each other names. It takes away from what might otherwise be an intelligent comment.
Oh yeah!!! I saw that episode. I thought it was interesting. I feel bad for the woman who put her baby on the ground then tried to go back into the plane to save it. I felt all bad!
that was an incredibly good job by the crew and denny fitch - they had absolutely no control of the airplane except the thrust...a miracle they even made it to the airport. a similar incident ocurred when an airbus a-300 was hit by a ground to air missile over iraq and, despite a full loss of all hydraulic components, made it back to the airport in ONE PIECE. it was "only" a cargo-plane, so there is not much publicity about that, but it was a similar heroic effort by the pilots!
@spiller212 The OO-DLL is a very well known incident and the story was featured on the third season of Air Crash Investigation episode 3 "Attack Over Baghdad which is one of my favourite episodes up to date and the crew are my idols :)
the fan in the engine on the tail shattered. peices of the fan broke hydralic pipes and the pilots had absolutely no control except to increase and decrease power in the engines on the wings. Asswipe. This happened in my City.
It's safe to say, you could not in ANY. I repeat ANY. Similar situation have done what Denny Fitch did. This wasn't an altimeter failure, no sir. This was a catastrophic failure of the hydraulic system. Move the yoke, nothing happens. Worse is the tendency for the plane to roll to the right AFTER losing 33% of the thrust. ADDING to the complete loss of Pitch, Yaw, Roll. AND having no ability to slow in any manner.
ARE YOU DAFT?! That sound hopeless by any and all accounts. Do some research.
Mobie, after the crash the FAA and airlines put all their top pilots and crew in the DC-10 simulator and threw the same scenario at them. Not one of the crews in the simulator could avoid complete loss of control and a high speed vertical crash
Watch AirCrash Investigation episodes, they're filmed more professionally and the story of flight 282 is more clear. I hate stimulations personally. x.x;
I have a hard time understanding how one can find it enjoyable to do a flight simulation on a home computer and pretending it's an accident. Hm....I wish people would title these things "animation" or "simulation". I like airplanes, but not simulations.
I don't know about co-pilot, but captain survived, as well as one other person you can hear (he was helping the crew, as he was DC-10 trainer and was a passenger on that flight - I think his name is Fitch)
What a tragic way to die! I had an uncle who was a flight engineer in the military that died in a jet crash back in '86. We didn't learn what happened until I found the flight recorder transcript in a book called "The Black Box" a little over 5 years ago.
I've read that over two dozen attempts were made to match or perform better similar landing attempts all failed in flight simulations. Bottom Line: If Al Haynes wasn't piloting United 232, everyone on board would've been killed.
Luck was certainly a component, but indeed the crew's skill and experience played a huge role. It's literally a miracle that they were able to get that plane anywhere NEAR a runway in its condition. It's tragic that many died, but over half on board survived because the crew fought the battle to the bitter end. If I'm on a plane, I want a pilot like that at the helm.
I remember when this happened - I was 9 years old and lived in Sioux City at the time. Big plume of smoke from the airport - my best friend's dad was a firefighter and there helping survivors along with every emergency crew from nearby towns and 3 states.
Ironic that I live in Denver now.
supershwa27 1 week ago
...especially that last second with the alarm "PULL UP...PULL UP." I can't even imagine how terrifying that must have been.
ct92404 1 month ago
I was a little kid when this crash happened, but I very clearly remember seeing about it on the news. I'll never forget the video of the plane tumbling in the ground in a fireball. I still can't believe that ANYONE actually survived that crash. When I saw the video on the news, I had always assumed that everyone was killed. You would never believe that anyone could have possibly survived that. This is the first time I've actually heard a recording from the cockpit, and it's pretty chilling.
ct92404 1 month ago
@ cowboy guess a fagot can recognize another fagot from a mile away
kanolee907 1 month ago
0:51 "unlock that fuckin' door!"
UnitedJetSetter 1 month ago
i could have done it better than those stupid fucks called pilots i hope they all die in a fire
748cowboy 2 months ago
@748cowboy What in God's name is your problem?
davido53 1 month ago
@748cowboy I suppose you get your chew out and spurs on and kick the side of plane to mind you haha what a joke boy...
kanolee907 1 month ago
@kanolee907 I could have landed the plan better than those faggots
748cowboy 1 month ago
@748cowboy SHUT UP U COULD NEVER DO THAT!
cgrazko 1 month ago
@748cowboy fuck you
i want u to go to flight school and try to fly a plane
humble yourself or go burn in hell
cizzle107 2 weeks ago
you landed the wrong runway at sioux city you landed 17 instead of 22
MrFartmanTv 2 months ago
@MrFartmanTv well... they don't have runway 22 on FSX/FS2004
cgrazko 1 month ago
The Jerry Schemmel guy who saved a little baby from the wreckage talked to my school (he came back to his hometown), he's a very nice guy and very brave
FrozenFourthSeason 2 months ago
an idea would be to get a clue of what actually happened than using that simulator bs
duwadnum 3 months ago
Horrible
But hidden in that nasty conversation is the sheer awesomeness of their effort to make the best out of what was going to be a shitty situation.
England salutes Mr Haynes and and Fitch, for they are true American Heros!
lexichronicle2 4 months ago 2
awful
scaramonga1 5 months ago
I am simply astonished at how many lives were saved in this tragedy. From the footage of the crash it is inconcievable that anyone was able to survive this. My condolences to those that lost their lives in this accident but
BigCJFan 5 months ago
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the real video in this film is at 2:27 :|
Danishz123 5 months ago
All of that flight crew were heroes. Including one United pilot who was dead heading back as a passenger and came to the cockpit to assist in steering the plane via engine throttles. In hindsight, would it have been better to foam the runway and try to do a belly flop, or if the gear can get down you try a conventional landing?
ilmsff7 5 months ago
dum?? ITS LEFT not right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
garfield960 6 months ago
omg
Adam31799 6 months ago
A DC-10
johnmelvin2010 6 months ago
First of all, it is the flight board I am yelling at, saying they "are all dead" , and I am glad about that. Mainly, b/c they failed. Man was not meant to fly. You idiots, you did this to yourself. You made plane, and what did you think, that this was never going to happen. Flight =death. bIRDS ARE MEANT TO FLY , not people. I would not say i am glad all the birds are dead, because it will never happen. Have you ever heard of a bird going down because it's wing fell off in flight, no. So, stfu!
30inventionman 6 months ago
@30inventionman No you!
TheWaluigiking 3 months ago
o ya, this vomment, I was hacing a bad day that day, sorry they are dead.
30inventionman 6 months ago
22 years ago today. Incredible airmanship by A.Haynes, D.Fitch, et al. RIP to those who didn't make it.
meccaturbo 6 months ago
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Im glad there all dead, no one cares anyhow
30inventionman 6 months ago
@30inventionman You deserve to have your ass kicked for a comment like that, you retarded motherfucker. The person who we don't care about is you, since you're such a moronic fuck-up. Go fuck yourself, you asshole.
meccaturbo 6 months ago
dont commercial airliners have handcranks, incase the hydraulics fail?
AJM28211 6 months ago
Just a masterful piece of flightmanship.
ylekiot43 6 months ago
Amazing recording of high-intensity focus, leadership and teamwork. You can tell the team is fully aware of the high stakes but still maintains composure. The description does not contain the cause. I believe there was a hair-line fracture in the tail engine blade which disintegrated in-flight, slicing all hydraulic lines which converged in that section of the plane. Hydraulics power the wings' elevators used to steer the plane. They improvised, alternating thrust of the two remaining engines.
Vistamister 7 months ago
...i can be a cold s.o.b. sometimes. However, this crash cuts right through me every time. always will...
StellarBlue1 7 months ago
..."I really have my doubts that we will be standing up honey"...
For about a year or so, susequent to the investigation, several major airlines set up the parameters of this accident on full motion, full dynamic environment simulators (Level D/Type 7 FFS OTW) and nobody was able to duplicate the landing as it occurred IRL,.
The common result was no survivors in every case.
The fact that there were 5 Pilots in the cockpit played a big role but the Will To Live was the deciding factor.
hammerogod 8 months ago
I knew the pilot I remember him umping little league games when I use to play when I was a kid. when I first saw his picture on tv I recognized his face then I found how I knew him . Al is a great and humble person
kanolee907 8 months ago 13
@kanolee907 Just met him today, he did a talk at my school for us Flight Instructors...he's got a great sense of humor, everything you hear on the Cockpit voice and ATC transcript, he is still that way.
p51pilot28 1 month ago
Al Haynes is your Uncle? That's awesome. And yeah, he did one hell of a job, under those circumstances, getting that aircraft on the ground. I had heard that years later, the surviving passengers had all chipped in to help Capt. Haynes with the cancer surgery of one of his family members.
ylekiot43 9 months ago
As his great niece, this video makes me very proud. Obviously there was a tremendous loss of life but because of his skill and the skill of those around him, they were able to save more than half the people on that plane. Well done Uncle Al:)
KevHaynes 9 months ago
@KevHaynes
Well done Uncle Al (and others on the flightdeck too) indeed. The right stuff.
llanbo 7 months ago
Lost my brother Matthew Bohn 9 and Grandmother Lena Blaha 63 on this flight!
boodavis80 9 months ago 6
@boodavis80 Sorry for your loss dude. R.I.P
badboiant29 9 months ago 2
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@boodavis80 So very sorry....
shariys1 3 months ago
@boodavis80 Fuck man... this is very bad.. god bless you!
Mr1lk3r 3 months ago
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the pilot was a faggot that is why the plane crashed
748cowboy 11 months ago
@748cowboy He lost hydraulics lines from the No. 2 engines. All he had was the No. 1 and 3 engines.
Facebook3682 11 months ago
ROFLCHOPER
YouGotJEWD 11 months ago
GPWS woop woop pull up woop woop pull up!!!
TGB747 1 year ago
planes are for lazy people and bad swimmers
WarrantedFaith 1 year ago
"So we're gonna have to evacuate, then?" "Well -- we're gonna have the gear down." That, friends, is the sound of a lead flight attendant being disabused by her captain of a *wicked* case of denial.
dogorman3 1 year ago
AKA, Another reason I DRIVE!!! If its over sea, I dont go! My truck is alot less likely to many if any major problems at 65 MPH, even if it does, Id be safer. Plus I enjoy driving.
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
FYI, the runway that they used, Runway 22, is now a taxiway.
255nwa 1 year ago
seems like they need other back up systems,everything relies to much on electronics nowadays.....or hydraulics,like they found out,you lose pressure,you have little control....a least they tried with the Engines to control it as much as they could!.......Good job by the crew even though there were fatalities.
jeepers2655 1 year ago
It's a shame that they didn't think to ditch the plane in the river the way Capt. Sully did with US Airways Flight 1549.
redsoxfan426 1 year ago
@redsoxfan426 Capt. Sully had full control of the aircraft unlike in this accident. To ditch a plane succesfully without breaking it you need to be in right angle, which would be almost impossible to do with without full control of the plane.
Landing to the ground is usually much better choise than water landing, when most of the times its more like crashing to the water. Survival rate of water landings is much worse than landing on the ground...
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@redsoxfan426 as mentioned Capt Sully had full control of his flight control. He though he lost his engines he could keep his wings level and nose up. To say these guys didn't think is a huge insult to them. All they had was thrust and they had one shot to line it up with the runway.They did have time to search out a river with boats. It is truly amazing that what Capt Haynes, Denny Fitch & the other members of the flight crew were able to do. U232 and sully were way different circumstances.
sinusbradycardia 1 year ago
@redsoxfan426 They had virtually no control of the aircraft! Sully had everything but thrust, and he was able to control his plane as a glider. Ditching in water was the last resort for Sully -- he wanted to get to an airport in NY or NJ but was too low and couldn't take a chance of crashing into buildings and killing people. His preference was to land on a runway, not in water. Water is the most dangerous place to try to land an aircraft.
hrugga36 1 year ago
@hrugga36 Do you know why water is the most dangerous place to land an aircraft? I do not; and, would think it would be the safer option, as water is highly more malleable than hard land. Please, if you can explain this, I'd love to know. :) Thank you. (And this question's open to anyone who would like to help me understand.)
NebetSeta 1 year ago
@NebetSeta water is way easier to land on
xfactor2001 10 months ago
@xfactor2001
Uh...First, I agree with Douglas, in that water, when hit from a distance of more than 100 feet, has a similar surface tension to that of concrete. Second, have you ever thought how many survivors of this crash would have died buckled into their seats if Capt. Al had tried to ditch in the river? Having said that, I believe that Al Haynes and Dennis Fitch (as well as the rest of the crew) are nothing short of heroes, and KevHaynes should be extremely proud to call Al, "Uncle".
iamthatcute 9 months ago 2
@NebetSeta you are thinking of water at low speeds. At higher speeds it does not give much more than dirt would. Also, when you hit land, at an angle, it tends to flatten the angle and much of your momentum changes to forward motion so you slide. In water, the part of the plane with the least resistance (the nose) tends to drop further resulting in a pitch over and discenegration of the plane. Want to see how soft water is? Jump into a pool from 30 feet and hit face first.
DouglasMiles1 10 months ago
@DouglasMiles1
Additionally, water usually isn't glassy smooth, especially in the open sea...the nose could dig into a trough or a wing could "crab" into a wave; in either case you'd probably cartwheel and break apart (re. the video for the Ethiopian AL attempted ditching off the Comoros)
baraxor 10 months ago
@redsoxfan426 u fucking idiot they had no control what so ever dumb fuck!!!! you cant compare both crashes!!!
fotowngoonz 2 days ago
How in the hell did anyone survive that? How the hell did they get her down that well and have that much control when they had no control?
Excellent flight crew.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
This is an outstanding computer animation....I loved the DC-10 and miss it a great deal. I was blessed to fly twice on a DC-10-30 to & from Hawaii, a Northwest Orient.
xxchinookxx 1 year ago
But according to the NTSB report (which I have all but memorized), there were two errors in this video: first being that it clearly shows the aircraft flying over the city of Sioux City. This is proven false by radar hits. Secondly, they show landing on runway 17. While this would have been a much more beneficial runway to land on, they simply couldn't maneuver to it. So they landed on Rwy 22 (a closed runway that, after a brief moment of pucker factor by ATC, was cleared quickly).
rogerdotlee 1 year ago
I honestly do not believe that I can not add any additional encomiums to those laid upon Captain Al Haynes, First Officer Bill Records, Flight Engineer Dudly Dvorak, and dead-heading flight instructor Denny Fitch. What they managed to overcome was proven by simulator to be physically impossible until the advent of the fly-by-wire two-pilot MD-11 over 10 years after this incident (and before any other anal retentive goober comments, yes, I'm aware that the MD-11 was different from the DC10. But..
rogerdotlee 1 year ago
A similar thing happened to JAL flight 123, but almost no one survived that.
Dooby1986 1 year ago
wait somebody please explain whats going on there
ASPEDBUSDRIVER1 1 year ago
A truly heroic performance! Allthough everyone never made it........that plane had no right to even make it to the airport, so my hats off to the crew!
hearts76100 1 year ago
The aircraft eventually broke up during an emergency landing on the runway at Sioux City, Iowa, killing 111 of its 285 passengers and one of the 11 crew members.
Owing to the skill of the crew and a DC-10 instructor pilot who happened to be a passenger on the aircraft, 174 passengers and 10 crew members survived the crash. The disaster is considered an example of successful Crew Resource Management, due to the effective use of all available resources for help during the emergency.[2]
cut76 1 year ago
yesterday was the mermorial
cizzle107 1 year ago
how sad
cizzle107 1 year ago
i can doo better than them just cut engines off when ur close to the runway turn flaps to 100 percent then stay balanced and at leastland on one side of the runway and while u land ull slowly goto the opposite side, when the pilot said left u should of that what i would've done
MrRobloMan 1 year ago
@MrRobloMan That's if u have a working hydraulic system. Theirs was destroyed completely, so they had no flaps to turn.
yellowbelly701 1 year ago
@yellowbelly701 oh well then i if i was flying then everyone's screwed
MrRobloMan 1 year ago
@MrRobloMan retard, the only thing controlling that plane was the usage of the thrust, so you lose
DYLAV8R 1 year ago
@DYLAV8R i know that now gosh!
MrRobloMan 1 year ago
@MrRobloMan ROTFL
DelfinoDelphis 1 year ago
Brilliant job by that flight crew. The DC-10 proved in time to be a fine airframe but, it had a couple of design flaws. Especially the grouping of the hydraulic lines both the main and backups. This proved fatal in the crash of American 191 and obviously played a part in this incident.
phillyslasher 1 year ago
That GPWS sounded so ominous and creepy, this is so sad. Awesome crew, though.
chackles82 1 year ago
@chackles82 It's noted (in a talk by Captain Haynes himself) that during one of his six month recurrent training sessions in the sim, when the GPWS was squawking "PULL UP" due to the simulated emergency during training, The "Controller" cleared him to land, to which he replied "United 232, cleared to land." Both pilots denied it until they listened to the sim tapes. According to Capt. Haynes, that was the eye opener about just how real PTSD really is.
rogerdotlee 1 year ago
poor people. Bad manutention But very good pilots, at least they avoid the tragedy of a complete loss of the flight.
hotello2009 1 year ago
DC10 sucks DC 9 sucks aswell
ATITANIC1992 1 year ago
If you want to get technical with it, then its 112 lives lost. There was a women who was preganet and she died and then so did her baby. She was due in a month.
bluepanther1011 1 year ago
you're using fsx right?
flydelta522 1 year ago
I just read this and it brought tears to my eyes... and may be another reason why this amazing crew was so afraid. It was apparently Children's Day on that plane....
"Fifty-two children, including four lap children, were on board the flight due to the United Airlines "Children's Day" promotion. Eleven children, including one lap child, died. Many of the children had traveled alone."
Imagine being a child, on that plane by yourself and going through that crash?
Mandy7D7 1 year ago
This crew meant business. They did EVERYTHING they could, didn't sit there holding on to the radio depending on gauges and air traffic control. They were out of their seats trying to find the problem and trying to get that damn plane back in safely. Amazing work, I would feel very safe having these people at the controls on any flight I was on. May the ones who died rest in peace and the ones who survived find comfort. How scary that must have been to go through.
Mandy7D7 1 year ago
@farzanjava The number two engine failed when the fan disk failed because it cracked. When the crack became too big, it broke in 2 and sent shrapnel flying. The shrapnel severed all 3 of the hydraulic lines which controled virtually everything (including flaps, rudder, ailerons, etc) except for the ability to change thrust on the wing mounted engines. The number 2 engine could not be adjusted because it was no longer working, although the thrust lever was stuck in the "on" position.
peteisnotneat 1 year ago
was this the crash that the plane couldnt go to left or right or something ??
Uygur102 1 year ago
yes
jonzxcv 1 year ago
The DC-10 was a reasonably safe design, it's crashes were mostly due to poor maintenence and pilot errors.
As to the MD-11 comment, they are no safer than DC-10's. Th MD-11 was originally slated to be the DC-10 series 60, a planned stretch of the airframe. Douglas failed to market the aircraft very well and was bought by Boeing who were never interested in competitive designs that were not their own, they were only interested in the military contracts that Douglas had- ie F-15,F-18,etc....
eze241 1 year ago
My Uncle lived 7 miles from the crash. I remember as a kid and now as an adult talking to him about it. In his words, "the most incredible, yet erie thing I ever witnessed". I still have the pictures he took of the bellowing smoke. I have seen a house fire when I was young and thought that was erie, but a plane crash.............
todddurlin 1 year ago
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PILOTS LOVE PANTIES
ISniffDirtyPanties 1 year ago
at 0:50 some1 says lock that fu**ing door
kingmaster450 1 year ago
@kingmaster450 big fuckin deal and what the fuck....if you cant swaer over the internet then your apussy
krazyglue619 1 year ago
@kingmaster450 It's "unlock the door." Danny Fitch was trying to visually check for aircraft damage. He needed a way back in.
peteisnotneat 1 year ago
the desc says 111 lives lost and 185 alive but it is actally 112 lives lost and 184 alive
kingmaster450 1 year ago
Nice job on the vid!
brmoore37 1 year ago
MD-11 is safer than all McDonnell Douglas planes cause MD-11 is manafactured by Boeing but belongs to McDonnell Douglas
AndyMcArren1356 2 years ago
no Mcdonnell Douglas is the manufacter of the Md-11. The Md-11 had a control problem so Boeing built the Md-11
kingmaster450 1 year ago
thats what i kind of meant
AndyMcArren1356 1 year ago
Top pilots and crew. RIP to the souls who didn't make it.
ZQPYU 2 years ago 12
@ZQPYU 100% agreed
callmeservant 6 months ago
That crew and the flight attendants did everything they could. It STILL amazes me that they were able to get it to a runway in one piece.
theschoolofchuck 2 years ago
Lol, nice landing :)
congeloso 2 years ago
wats the game?
Triplekooly 2 years ago
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lol nice landing!!
Uranus1963 2 years ago
Oh please... boeings have suffered complete hydraulic failure leading to crash as well.
northroad1 2 years ago 6
Ok Name 3. not including JAL flight 123
the5t5t5t5t 2 years ago 2
@northroad1 is wondering why main control surfaces don't have backup systems....
jonnyhoeven 6 months ago
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DC10 = definite crash 10.
All McDonnell Douglas planes are garbage.
dingoklectos 2 years ago
yeah they really are !!
lorikzzz 2 years ago
Saw this on "Shockwave"...very interesting story
Jb72987 2 years ago
I seen this crash on air crash investigation and it says: engine on the tail has its fan blade tore off putting holes into the tail while lossing hydraulics.
Master4902 2 years ago
Does anybody notice something is missing in the engine on the tail at 1:09?
(That's because its missing its fan blade)
Master4902 2 years ago
This is Microsoft Flight Simulator. It's just the way the aircraft is rendered.
deovalente 2 years ago
yeah... just noticed.
MTSguitarsllc 2 years ago
how come at teh close up, the engine on the tail seem s to be missing its fan blade?
Master4902 2 years ago
@Master4902: that's because the fan disk is set back farther in the intake of engine 2 than it does in engines 1 and 3.
FLYGLI 2 years ago
maybe because it IS missing?
deepsinK 2 years ago
did the pilots survive I didnt read all the details
AndyMcArren1356 2 years ago
yes all 4 guys in the cockpit survived
Airking4321 2 years ago 2
great video, nicely done.
PTOPedro 2 years ago
The amazing thing with this flight outside of the job the pilots did getting it as close as they did is if they had somehow safely landed, almost no one would have ever heard of it and what a great landing it would have been.
tryithere 2 years ago
The airplane couldn't turn to left hand side!
cocorrancho 2 years ago
There is a television show called I Survived that just had the Pilot, the senior flight attendant and one of the survivors tell the story. Check it out if you can. One more thing, I wish people with disagreements could make them without calling each other names. It takes away from what might otherwise be an intelligent comment.
suzycreamchez123 2 years ago 2
Oh yeah!!! I saw that episode. I thought it was interesting. I feel bad for the woman who put her baby on the ground then tried to go back into the plane to save it. I felt all bad!
NatileeDuran 2 years ago
Wrong runway.... it was runway 22
FlyingTheBestBoeing 2 years ago
You're right, but since runway 22 no longer exists, it doesn't show up on any MS Flight Simulator.
zplnfan 2 years ago
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patriotpride16t 2 years ago
that was an incredibly good job by the crew and denny fitch - they had absolutely no control of the airplane except the thrust...a miracle they even made it to the airport. a similar incident ocurred when an airbus a-300 was hit by a ground to air missile over iraq and, despite a full loss of all hydraulic components, made it back to the airport in ONE PIECE. it was "only" a cargo-plane, so there is not much publicity about that, but it was a similar heroic effort by the pilots!
spiller212 2 years ago 27
spiller212 Denny Fitch's real name is Dennis E Fitch
kingmaster450 1 year ago
@spiller212 Yeah, the DHL A310, some piloting huh?
TheSoccerGoalkeeper 1 year ago
@spiller212 The engine exploded in this crash...
johnairlines8 10 months ago
@spiller212 The OO-DLL is a very well known incident and the story was featured on the third season of Air Crash Investigation episode 3 "Attack Over Baghdad which is one of my favourite episodes up to date and the crew are my idols :)
ghostintheshelll 10 months ago
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"a hopeless situation"... what do you mean? an altimeter failure so close to landing? I can't believe it.
that kind of pilot and crew are hopeless. nice weather conditions and they couldn't take the control over the situation?
I hate people who attempt suicide involving innocent lives. Nice job, fucking morons you saved pedestrian lives but killed othres.
talcaforever 2 years ago
the fan in the engine on the tail shattered. peices of the fan broke hydralic pipes and the pilots had absolutely no control except to increase and decrease power in the engines on the wings. Asswipe. This happened in my City.
LeeBear27 2 years ago 6
you're an idiot.
GMHGTO 2 years ago
It's safe to say, you could not in ANY. I repeat ANY. Similar situation have done what Denny Fitch did. This wasn't an altimeter failure, no sir. This was a catastrophic failure of the hydraulic system. Move the yoke, nothing happens. Worse is the tendency for the plane to roll to the right AFTER losing 33% of the thrust. ADDING to the complete loss of Pitch, Yaw, Roll. AND having no ability to slow in any manner.
ARE YOU DAFT?! That sound hopeless by any and all accounts. Do some research.
MobileReign 2 years ago 16
@MobileReign
Mobie, after the crash the FAA and airlines put all their top pilots and crew in the DC-10 simulator and threw the same scenario at them. Not one of the crews in the simulator could avoid complete loss of control and a high speed vertical crash
RealWorldDesign 1 year ago
@RealWorldDesign I remember hearing about that. It truly was an amazing feat.
MobileReign 1 year ago
@MobileReign well it is th ebest he coukld do
i would leki to see u recreate this
Scouttrooper99 1 year ago
@Scouttrooper99 ...the hell you talking about?
MobileReign 1 year ago
@MobileReign wow sorry i was on my phone so it went bit rong sorry. i said well it is the best he could do
i would like to see you recreate this and acctually make it better:D
Scouttrooper99 1 year ago
@MobileReign I feel so much sympathy for them....after my sister is dead.
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 10 months ago
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sbb924 2 years ago
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talcaforever let's see you fly a huge widebody aircraft with no hydraulics. jackass.
sbb924 2 years ago
That Fucking Hurts a lot when you Hit the Ground to Fast
Skybolter 2 years ago
nice job by the cockpit crew!!
orhanjudas 2 years ago 4
How did you get that plane on MFSX, and also how did you get thet repaly to work.
All the same a great vid.
EWS60500 2 years ago
He has the PMDG payware MD-11 with a repaint
byunjoe 2 years ago
Then why is he flying a DC-10?
WarOfTheKnights 2 years ago
Sorry man then he must have the payware MD-10 collection from Justflight, I cannot really decifer from a MC-11 and DC-10
byunjoe 2 years ago
lol. My thing: DC-10 does not have winglets while MD-11 does.
WarOfTheKnights 2 years ago
The cockpit broke away didn't it ...
EdmDude 2 years ago
Is this a mission or did you download the plane and crashed it
Legoman92463 2 years ago
Incredible that about half the passengers made it...
plsniper 2 years ago 2
Where did you get that plane? I seriously cannot find it anywhere!!!! Give me a link to download it please! It is such a beautifull plane.....
00mustangdude 2 years ago
At 52 seconds, someone says "Unlock that f***in' door!"
Graydon902 2 years ago
That;s the cap'n. I would have felt like cussing if I were stuck in that situation.
rafalweb 2 years ago
Salute to the pilot who made it possible to save the lives of many people aboard!!
chuppah123 2 years ago
Watch AirCrash Investigation episodes, they're filmed more professionally and the story of flight 282 is more clear. I hate stimulations personally. x.x;
Homg1234 2 years ago
yeah stimulations. idiot.
chanrobi 2 years ago
I have a hard time understanding how one can find it enjoyable to do a flight simulation on a home computer and pretending it's an accident. Hm....I wish people would title these things "animation" or "simulation". I like airplanes, but not simulations.
thibaulthalpern 2 years ago
All flight deck crew survived including the check pilot that was there assisting.
b190captain 2 years ago
my little brother say: going down going down copiet copiet going down so funny
migalxmy 2 years ago
I don't know about co-pilot, but captain survived, as well as one other person you can hear (he was helping the crew, as he was DC-10 trainer and was a passenger on that flight - I think his name is Fitch)
dziczku 2 years ago
@dziczku The entire crew in the cockpit survived.
peteisnotneat 1 year ago
For the most part of it, the crew sounded calm. Very professional of them.
choidj 2 years ago 5
great work 5/6 why you make so a video have you flyed the airplane with engine power??????????????
gaspeli 2 years ago
wow cool vid mate
how do u put the real air crash investgation scenes into ur vids?
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jzair 3 years ago
What a tragic way to die! I had an uncle who was a flight engineer in the military that died in a jet crash back in '86. We didn't learn what happened until I found the flight recorder transcript in a book called "The Black Box" a little over 5 years ago.
Billybopper1 3 years ago
I've read that over two dozen attempts were made to match or perform better similar landing attempts all failed in flight simulations. Bottom Line: If Al Haynes wasn't piloting United 232, everyone on board would've been killed.
KOHF34 3 years ago 3
I had dinner with him a few years back when he was in town doing a speaking engagement. One heck of a guy!
disastertom 3 years ago
You are so right, they are an amazing breed of people, Have a look at Fedex flight 705 , "attempted takeover" Amazing.
andyb1969 3 years ago
Luck was certainly a component, but indeed the crew's skill and experience played a huge role. It's literally a miracle that they were able to get that plane anywhere NEAR a runway in its condition. It's tragic that many died, but over half on board survived because the crew fought the battle to the bitter end. If I'm on a plane, I want a pilot like that at the helm.
thenekom 2 years ago