He's on crack. Kids just wanted to get laid cause they thought it was cool (social factor) and ended up being parents which in my opinion is an epic fail.
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Is Teen Pregnancy a Genetic Trait? only if all these girls were slutty by genetics. real talk we in the 21 century grow up get on birth control or wear a condom damn America is one stupid ass country
@oracle2world are you really that ignorant to make such a comment, your a fucking child even on a philosophical level, if a teen has a child how will they take care of it if the guy leaves and parents kick them out?
this isn the medevil times ppl just dont go out and hunt for food and live in log houses or grass huts now do they, hellloo its called evolution for a reason ya dumb bitch
that is complete bullshit ... few extreme cases of teen parenthood and now it's genetic phh... what matters is culture and and whether the person is of reproductive age... aand humans happen to come of that age in their teens ... do u see a connection ?
Like when I see a pregger I think about having a big cock in me pumping away filling me full of hot cum and making me wet when I'm having a huge orgasm.
Maybe teen girls just want to contribute to society by having babies. Too may babies are killed in abortions, the natality is rapidly falling. People have become too selfish to care about the most vulnerable in society: the unborn, the sick.
Correction, Prof. Dye, that IS her baby. I'm not sure about the girl on the left, but the baby on the right was Sarah Palin's chlid, born with DS named Trig. Left-wingers speculated that this was not in fact her own child but that of her youngest daughter. (The arguments used were similar to the ones used to indicate Obama was not born in Hawaii). Photos of her being pregnant as governor surfaced and squashed this rumor. j.mp 90dYiG
2 more points to make, 1st is through most of human history, it was quite usual for teenagers to be mothers, only recently has this changed. Back then it was important to have 8/9 children because of the high child mortality rates. The 2nd point to be made is that in order to seperate true genetic causes from the environment it is important to study identical twins raised seperately or the correlation of fertility between adopted girls to their biological mother.
In R.A Fisher's genetical theory of natural selection (1930), he has a whole chapter on the inhertiance of human fertility. He started by examining the variation in fertility rates among 10,000 women from 1902, average rate was 6.19 but the variance is 16.18. Fisher then looks at further data which shows a strong correlation not only between fertility rates of mother's & their daughters but also between fertility correlations in grandmothers and granddaughters.
The problem with these things is that if your mom had you young, you will grow up thinking this is "okay" to be a teen mom. It's interesting there's a gene (or thought to be). The gene is clearly not present in my family, but my bf's mom was still a teen when she had him. He's over 30 now and managed not to knock anyone up...yay. You can break free of negative role patterns, just like you can choose not to smoke even if your parents are smokers with addictive pesonalities!
@Kayelle1980 yes, there may be genetic causes of fertility & infertility, but also it's true that our experiences as young children shape us into the adults we are in very powerful ways. The brain of a young child is like a sponge, to use a metaphor, they learn very quickly & absorb everything they see. If the child with a young mum is growing up in an area where alot his/her friends have young mothers then this will further the social reinforcement that it's normal for young women to be mothers
yes of course. And the one does not exclude the other, but wha you say is exactly right. if a child sees a lot of 16-year olds being mothers, it becomes "acceptable"/
just another piss poor excuse time for people to grow up and take responibilty for there actions most teens now days are far to imature to have children there are only children themselves stop making excuses if they have sex then use protection end of story
Pregnant Teenager : ' It's Timmy, but it's not his fault !... IT'S IN MY GENES'
I don't see how the genetic factor is relevant, unless your genes make you bend over younger or something. The genetic factor can in no way be of any relevance compared to the immense pressure of culture and society.
@ThePurpleNath Genes dont get you pregnant. Genes just alter your hormones (e.g. if your mom was pregnant at 15, you could give birth at 15 too [more easily, atleast])
@ThePurpleNath probably meant to say "more likely." hormones lead to increased want of sex. also, should anything leak through a condom, fertility becomes a factor which is different for different women.
@ThePurpleNath I wondering about that: I can believe that there's a gene that makes you have sex younger. Fair enough. But is that then also linked to a gene that makes you too stupid to use birth control? Because even as a teen I was pretty aware that boom-boom-bang can lead to babies...
Put a leash on the women. Kill the type of men who get teenage women pregnant. Kill the type of women who get pregnant during their teenage years. If its a gene that we don't need, which we don't need a larger population then adapt it by getting rid of variable that causes it. Death, Restraint, Lecture. Get the job done. Besides my ethics say teenage sex is immoral and sick, Kill them both for being dumb enough. Yes yes death death, but hey, at least good people are left... except murderers...
Is it a genetic trait? You bet! I'm surprised anyone ever doubted that. Isn't it bloody obvious that humans (and other animals) have a strong inbuilt desire to reproduce, which gets "switched on" at puberty? WTF is the big news here?
He raises an interesting point but the fact still remains that whether it's genetic or not it's still largely unacceptable for teenagers to become parents.
The pressure of sexual selection holds much less significance in the modern world than it did in the past when it truly was survival of the fittest. In a civilised, developed and social society it should be the social pressure that wins out over sexual selection.
Social pressure dictates that it is wrong for children to become parents.
please don't tell me this clown is saying it's good for teens to get pregnant. If you can't look after yourself why bring another one of you into the world. I don't give a shite if science says children should have kids. most scientist are the same idiots that believe we evolved from apes. What are we going to become next pigs having underaged pigs?
but it is good for them to have kids earlier because there are less risks of the baby dying or having some sort of problems like down syndrome, this is a known fact
Ignoring fact again; are you? He is not saying it's good for them to get pregnant, He's just pointing out the fact that there is a genetic connection. No where is he saying "Because it's genetic, we should let them have kids". No, We obviously would not evolve into pigs. but maybe there might be a new sub species if God takes another rib from a man and a woman at the time time and put them together. Since magic makes more sense.
This guy probably has a Ph.D. and did tons of research on this. So it might be a good idea to just keep an open mind and listen? Unless, of course, someone else out there with similar credentials did a comparable amount of research to refute his claims.
okay so you're telling me that all the work Darwain and Mendel did studying the Origins of life applies to teen pregnancy...Teen pregnancy is not a trait that can be passed down neither is ignorance...you cant even class pregnancy as an acquired trait.
@repmyclass2010 you show an absolutely shocking level of intelligence and open mindedness! idiot! do you even know what dar hypothesised, in years ago it would have been advantageous to get pregnant early hence the natural selection(genetic selection) for girls who could get pregnant early before disease or other environmental factors rendered them sterile.
Shut the fuck up! it can't be genetic, it's pretty unfare that it takes Sara Pailin's daughter to get pregnant to raise the issue, I didn't believe anyhin he's sayin I hope I didn't offend anyone in this comment
@majorhottie338 as long as they can surpport the child financially with out needing hand outs from the goverment and they are mature enough to raise a child when they are only a child themselves dont think so its usually the grand parents who raise the kids because the others cant
@majorhottie338 Thank you, someone w/a sense of mind. It's not the age that matters it's if you're mature or not. I've seen a 30 year old have her first child and was as lost as a teen. (For all the ignorant people...)
I think this link is clearly fallible. My incontrovertible evidence that allowed me to come to my conclusion (by means of consolidating all of my aggregate data) is:
how the hell can you take someone wearing a leopard skin tie seriously? :S
i dnt think its enyone biz tbh ! most teen mums r like enyotha mum i think aven kids in 35-40 is wrong as ur bby cud be born with sumin wrong bt yey thay dnt say enyfink bout that!
the way this country is going if the mom already has a daughter and doesn't want to go through pregnancy they'll just ask their teen to get them one ^^
wow...its crazy how all these destructive decisions are found to be genetic...i just learned that alcoholism is largely a genetic tendency too...and serial killers/psychopaths have smaller amygdalas than normal people. makes you rethink the idea of morality and judgement....also makes you rethink the validation of things like homosexuality because of their inborn tendencies
Don't you think it more likely that "destructive decisions" are examined more than are neutral decisions? That is, it is potentially more valuable to understand whether or not alcoholism, sociopathy, etc have a genetic correlate than deciphering familial inheritance of a love of chocolate.
However, confounding factors must be ruled out. Homosexuality, for example, probably has an epigenetic basis rather than that there is a "gay gene".
well yea, my point wasn't so much to suggest an actual genetic role in homosexuality but just that it is a tendency (as opposed to a choice). that homosexuals don't necessarily choose to be homosexuals is why it is validated, while it seems alcoholics, serial killers, and apparently teenage mothers also don't necessarily choose to do the things they do either.
He is not actually saying that teen pregnancy has a genetic basis, though. He is saying that it would have an advantage in terms of natural selection -- start early, reproduce more. This manifests as early menarche, which often occurs decades before reproduction.
Sociological evidence suggests that upbringing is the strongest factor in teen pregnancy. Family dysfunction is more often associated with teen pregnancy. And, yes, I would expect Palin to be a dysfunctional ma.
1:03...he says a study done in australia on twins suggests a genetic basis...and then he offers an explanation of a possible evolutionary advantage.
sociological evidence (more likely statistical rather than experimental) definitely does not rule out many of the confounding factors. just like alcoholism, statistically, seems to be more in people of lower socio-economic status, an actual scientific study with controls that isolate causes shows alcoholism has a genetic basis.
statistics don't take into account our ability to modify our behavior, to an extent, because of cultural pressures. so someone genetically prone to do something can possibly not do it because the people around them aren't (it obviously depends on how strong the genetic impulse is and how isolated your influences are, etc.)
Did I say anything different, or did you merely imagine that I had? Genetics might predispose, but environment and education modify complex behaviours. Birth control helps to delay pregnancy, regardless of behaviour.
Sociological studies are necessarily statistical because ethics preclude much direct experimentation on people, and longitudinal studies take a long time. Besides, investigator interaction would become one of the variables.
Yes, you did say something different: you made it seem as if he wasn't saying there is a genetic basis, while that is the actual main purpose of this lecture (the main purpose was not his speculations on the evolutionary basis for the findings, which is what you implied).
How about, "He is not actually saying that teen pregnancy has a genetic *imperative*, though."? The rest of what I said implied just this.
Most girls reach menarche by 12-13, and this is younger than previously because of higher trending BMI. Luckily, most girls don't conceive as soon as they could! Environment is more important.
From PubMed: "COGA has detected association with GABRA2, CHRM2 and ADH4"
i don't follow you...how is the age of menarche relevant in the context of what is being said in this video and how does it suggest an environmental cause? the trends of menarche and BMI aside, the study mentioned is claimed to have found a genetic basis (with no further details given with the audience giving the benefit of the doubt in terms of isolating variables). how do menarche trends disprove the suggestion made in this video?
Do you imagine that girls can conceive *prior* to menarche? Even the unfortunate 9 yr-old whose fetus was aborted after her rape had reached menarche very young.
Do you not accept that menarche is controlled by both genes and environment (BMI)? The earlier trending age of menarche results from better nutrition. Cultural influences push for a delay in conception for years, or decades, post-menarche.
...hmm, it would be pretty presumptuous of you to question my knowledge of medicine off the bat for a misunderstanding on your part, don't you think? its a good thing you are avoiding this youtube endemic...
Since I have been there and done that, I was trying to figure out where you are having difficulty with the concept. I'm guessing that you are in first year.
I have already explained sufficiently. I suggest that you stop getting defensive and think about the principles involved. You are over-complicating the principles.
"I'm guessing that you are in first year....I suggest that you stop getting defensive and think about the principles involved."
its hard not to get defensive when you are clearly challenging my education (something most would interpret as being OFFensive). i am actually 3 months away from finishing my basic sciences and you have yet to provide any useful information...all i've been hearing is irrelevant jibberish disguising your ignornace on the subject.
Medical schools vary in curricula. We had basic sciences for one and a half school years, then we shifted full-time to clinical sciences. Fairly standard approach, I'd expect.
Topics such as possible genetic basis for alcholism would have been in first year when we did a nonsensical course called "doctor patient relations". Not that the concept is unimportant, just that it was stuck at the beginning because we knew no clinical medicine.
basic sciences comprise the first 2 school years in almost every medical school i've heard of and clinical sciences the second 2 school years. like i said, i was learning about the genetic basis for alcoholism in behavioral sciences. doctor-patient relations only deals with exactly what it sounds like it would deal with...doctor-patient relations(an application of the basic sciences to clinical situations with patients as well as the related clinical skills.
if that isn't a challenge to my education, i'm not sure what is. if offense wasn't intended, i'm guessing you offend a lot of people without "intending" it.
since you have "been there and done that" i'm sure you can respond without defensively attacking my medical education. i have already explained the utter irrelevance of the menarche trends in this conversation.
some women are genetically prone to make socially unacceptable choices with respect to unprotected sexual activity. i'm not sure why i'm explaining another person's findings though...PLEASE KEEP THIS VIDEO IN MIND.
if my explanations seem "over-complicated" to you, perhaps you are trying to push an issue that is slightly over your head. rather than reacting defensively to your lack of understanding on the subject through attacking my knowledge, it would be easier for us both if you would just humbly concede that your layman understanding of the issue is inappropriate for the arrogance with which you are attacking my education.
3. You are still coming from a defensive position of attack. You know nothing of my understanding. You appear not to have comprehended what I meant by "been there, done that."
I did not say that you were trying to hide it. You simply appear to be failing to get beyond your wounded pride. Perhaps you are particularly prone to assume that your medical knowledge is being questioned.
perhaps...or perhaps you are particularly prone to hide behind pseudo-intellectual condescension on youtube where people don't actually know you so you can pretend to be as intelligent as you want, and maybe thats because your intellect isn't respected in the real world...perhaps...but who am i to speculate?
menarche is not in question. going back to challenging the relevance of a reference to menarche (to which you defensively attacked my medical knowledge). this is a question of psychology (with the trends of menarche probably being controlled for, there is found to be a genetic basis behind NOT CHOOSING [a behavior] to abide by more socially acceptable norms in protected sexual activity/pregnancy with respect to age)
if you are suggesting a behavioral connection with trends in menarche (the trends suggesting people should be choosing to conceive earlier) you will have to provide evidence. so far all you have proven is that the increasing epidemic of obesity is contributing to menarche occurring earlier than normal (not because of better nutrition).
most importantly, even if what you said was true...to conclude with the blanket statement "culture overrides genetics" because of that is simply ignorant.
There is no need to justify sociological studies, i recognize their usefulness on certain issues. but in teh face of real experimental studies, like the one on alcohol i keep mentioning or the one this guy is mentioning in this video, statistics are the less useful type. if anything, experiment studies are meant to refine findings in statistics.
i guess the only reference I can give is a KAPLAN review book for the USMLE, behavioral sciences. I am learning about alcoholism in medical school.
"Do you have a reference for the alcoholism study?"
Actual translation: "Do you have a reference for the alcoholism study?" ... *I am interested to know (implied).*
The fact that I went looking for the information should have been a clue.
Assuming that you know more about a person's intentions than what the person is actually saying is a ridiculous presumption. It seems to be an endemic problem on YouTube.
i think you need to relax a little. you asked for a reference, i offered with the source from which i learned the information: a review book from which I am studying for a class in medical school. your observations on presumptuous youtube replies is interesting...could it be you just proved you are the one guilty of what you accuse me of?
You are one of the few. My own observation about Youtube is that people never ask for sources from someone saying something they agree with. They DEMAND sources from those with whom they differ. THAT is the real edemic problem.
I know that alcoholism and serial killers have a genetic basis that sets them in their set categories but I don't believe that homosexuality is genetic. Possible but I would need to see some proof.
but homosexuality is something that is considered by some as immoral, the argument against which is that it is beyond a person's control and is therefore not in moral question. these genetic studies that tell us more about our choices and how much control we actually have over them forces us to re-examine what morality really is.
There is no such thing "stupid people", only the input makes them act "stupid"! Intelligence people might not have a damn chance to go to college, never mind getting a better job, what u saying is pure crap, Gen. Franco, and eugenics would be pride of you JennyFartLopez.
Is there a genetic basis for being a religious dumbass fucktard? All teens are horny as fuck. Enough teens get some on regular basis. Just learn to use a bloody condom and stop with the ridiculous abstinence only myth. I that doesnt work, try using a coat hanger.
Yes there is. Low IQs have a genetic basis. Stupid people tend to drop their studies, find a crappy job, get married with stupid people, then have lots of stupid children to whom give a poor education...
Intelligent people tend to continue studying, get a better job, marry later with intelligent people, have few children to whom give a good education, etc.
Thankfully stupid people tend to die at a higher rate due to stupid behavoiur. Otherwise they would rapidly dominate the population.
You seem to be insinuating that only, as you say,"stupid" people become pregnant in their teens. This is not true. Many highly intelligent people become pregnant at a young age. It has nothing to do with a persons IQ, but with raging hormones and their financial surroundings. And yes there are smart people that are horny and poor!!
You must be quite young and nieve to think that of , as you say, "stupid" people. Life will someday slap you in the face my dear!
I wasn't insinuating anything. I was adressing the point on whether there is a "genetic basis for being a religious fucktard".
I only say said there is some correlation. Politics and biology aren't made of particular cases, but of what's true to a large extent. You know, exceptions confirm the rule and all this stuff.
Most intelligent people don't see an issue in abortion, so they won't ruin their life at a young age because of a bad decision.
What you say about how stupid people act and how smart people act is true to a large extent, there are some cases which break the patter we can agree on of course.
However there is nothing that shows that intelligence is genetically driven in the way that it'll effect society. Of course general intelligence is genetic, otherwise dogs would be as smart as us. But no one can positively show a causation relationship which genetics and a certain IQ.
I read somewhere IQ can be predicted within a 10 points error margin, depending only on the parents' IQ. There are, of course, developemental factors, but for an average environment it seems to be largely genetic-driven.
Hmm, oversex teenagers! You would expect teenage pregnancy. A few hundred years ago people were married in their teens and so was normal then...Thing now is we don't marry as early but the teens are still at it like bunnies...
It's true. Our bodies think we're half-way through our lives when we're in our teens. But now that we're living to 80 or 90, society has had come up with ways of delaying those instincts.
Society should come up with ways of getting condoms and birth control into the hands of the people who need them. The age of consent of Italy is fourteen, yet their teen pregnancy rate is FAR lower than our's. For a developed country, the US teen pregnancy rate is excessively high. Where the hell is Obama's plan to get this under control NOW?
I cant get any pussy or a girl to have sex with me so no worries!
vaseline02 3 weeks ago
He's on crack. Kids just wanted to get laid cause they thought it was cool (social factor) and ended up being parents which in my opinion is an epic fail.
FiorellaDiazCortez 5 months ago
Utter bollocks, my mum had me at 36 and my brother at 42, I had mine at 17. -.-
mirandabone 5 months ago
im sorry but if teenagers want sex then let them do it
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MultiJB1995 6 months ago
Is Teen Pregnancy a Genetic Trait? only if all these girls were slutty by genetics. real talk we in the 21 century grow up get on birth control or wear a condom damn America is one stupid ass country
theabomation 7 months ago
Boring
bmarquez5423 7 months ago
The biggest influence on teen pregnancy is a million years of evolution. Procreating sooner than later is highly selected for.
I mean, was everyone sleeping in science class? Helloooooooooo.
There is nothing wrong or unusual with teen girls getting pregnant.
Any questions?
oracle2world 8 months ago
@oracle2world Maybe that part wasn't taught well in most schools ;P
CherrinaPixieCake 8 months ago
@oracle2world are you really that ignorant to make such a comment, your a fucking child even on a philosophical level, if a teen has a child how will they take care of it if the guy leaves and parents kick them out?
this isn the medevil times ppl just dont go out and hunt for food and live in log houses or grass huts now do they, hellloo its called evolution for a reason ya dumb bitch
irishpunk1089 5 months ago
@irishpunk1089 - sounds like you have a bit of an "anger management" issue here.
oracle2world 5 months ago
its a curse when the same family has teen pregnancy, ive seen it in my family
patriciacarrasco 9 months ago
My GGGG Grandmother was 15 when married and she had a baby 11 months later.Then she had 6 more.
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AngeluuAlidaji639 11 months ago
Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck... I think I shot Santa! Wait no... That's a pregnate... guy?!
WTFman5000 11 months ago
that is complete bullshit ... few extreme cases of teen parenthood and now it's genetic phh... what matters is culture and and whether the person is of reproductive age... aand humans happen to come of that age in their teens ... do u see a connection ?
pipobun 1 year ago
very interesting
insertdelete080 1 year ago
What a douche. "sparked a debate in Europe and UK"
UK is Europe, dumbass.
Dominus357 1 year ago
Like when I see a pregger I think about having a big cock in me pumping away filling me full of hot cum and making me wet when I'm having a huge orgasm.
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ReneeSaniya 1 year ago
Maybe teen girls just want to contribute to society by having babies. Too may babies are killed in abortions, the natality is rapidly falling. People have become too selfish to care about the most vulnerable in society: the unborn, the sick.
lillybellebutterfly1 1 year ago
@lillybellebutterfly1 Well like I don't know anything about that but when I see a guy with a big giant cock I want him to cum inside me.
SweetJaneofGoth 1 year ago
He's wearing a leopard print tie...rowr
pencilcaseize 1 year ago 5
Correction, Prof. Dye, that IS her baby. I'm not sure about the girl on the left, but the baby on the right was Sarah Palin's chlid, born with DS named Trig. Left-wingers speculated that this was not in fact her own child but that of her youngest daughter. (The arguments used were similar to the ones used to indicate Obama was not born in Hawaii). Photos of her being pregnant as governor surfaced and squashed this rumor. j.mp 90dYiG
otheus 1 year ago
2 more points to make, 1st is through most of human history, it was quite usual for teenagers to be mothers, only recently has this changed. Back then it was important to have 8/9 children because of the high child mortality rates. The 2nd point to be made is that in order to seperate true genetic causes from the environment it is important to study identical twins raised seperately or the correlation of fertility between adopted girls to their biological mother.
STEPHENWRAYSFORD33 1 year ago
In R.A Fisher's genetical theory of natural selection (1930), he has a whole chapter on the inhertiance of human fertility. He started by examining the variation in fertility rates among 10,000 women from 1902, average rate was 6.19 but the variance is 16.18. Fisher then looks at further data which shows a strong correlation not only between fertility rates of mother's & their daughters but also between fertility correlations in grandmothers and granddaughters.
STEPHENWRAYSFORD33 1 year ago
The problem with these things is that if your mom had you young, you will grow up thinking this is "okay" to be a teen mom. It's interesting there's a gene (or thought to be). The gene is clearly not present in my family, but my bf's mom was still a teen when she had him. He's over 30 now and managed not to knock anyone up...yay. You can break free of negative role patterns, just like you can choose not to smoke even if your parents are smokers with addictive pesonalities!
Kayelle1980 1 year ago
@Kayelle1980 yes, there may be genetic causes of fertility & infertility, but also it's true that our experiences as young children shape us into the adults we are in very powerful ways. The brain of a young child is like a sponge, to use a metaphor, they learn very quickly & absorb everything they see. If the child with a young mum is growing up in an area where alot his/her friends have young mothers then this will further the social reinforcement that it's normal for young women to be mothers
STEPHENWRAYSFORD33 1 year ago
@STEPHENWRAYSFORD33
yes of course. And the one does not exclude the other, but wha you say is exactly right. if a child sees a lot of 16-year olds being mothers, it becomes "acceptable"/
Kayelle1980 1 year ago
just another piss poor excuse time for people to grow up and take responibilty for there actions most teens now days are far to imature to have children there are only children themselves stop making excuses if they have sex then use protection end of story
dihle12 1 year ago
Pregnant Teenager : ' Mum, Dad, i'm pregnant. '
Mother and Father : ' Who did this to you ?'
Pregnant Teenager : ' It's Timmy, but it's not his fault !... IT'S IN MY GENES'
I don't see how the genetic factor is relevant, unless your genes make you bend over younger or something. The genetic factor can in no way be of any relevance compared to the immense pressure of culture and society.
ThePurpleNath 1 year ago 3
@ThePurpleNath Genes dont get you pregnant. Genes just alter your hormones (e.g. if your mom was pregnant at 15, you could give birth at 15 too [more easily, atleast])
fsgfoeva 1 year ago
@fsgfoeva How does "more easily" work? Cause i'm pretty sure condoms work the same regardless of your genes.
ThePurpleNath 1 year ago
@ThePurpleNath probably meant to say "more likely." hormones lead to increased want of sex. also, should anything leak through a condom, fertility becomes a factor which is different for different women.
weezilla 1 year ago
@ThePurpleNath I wondering about that: I can believe that there's a gene that makes you have sex younger. Fair enough. But is that then also linked to a gene that makes you too stupid to use birth control? Because even as a teen I was pretty aware that boom-boom-bang can lead to babies...
Kayelle1980 1 year ago
Put a leash on the women. Kill the type of men who get teenage women pregnant. Kill the type of women who get pregnant during their teenage years. If its a gene that we don't need, which we don't need a larger population then adapt it by getting rid of variable that causes it. Death, Restraint, Lecture. Get the job done. Besides my ethics say teenage sex is immoral and sick, Kill them both for being dumb enough. Yes yes death death, but hey, at least good people are left... except murderers...
InvalidAnon 1 year ago
@InvalidAnon That makes us ALL murderers than :P
fsgfoeva 1 year ago
eugenics
ForJS07M378 1 year ago
Is it a genetic trait? You bet! I'm surprised anyone ever doubted that. Isn't it bloody obvious that humans (and other animals) have a strong inbuilt desire to reproduce, which gets "switched on" at puberty? WTF is the big news here?
romkyns 1 year ago
that bitch
Anikedorgu 1 year ago
erm so is he sayin that girls c gettin laid as a way to have children more often therfore they choose to have unprotected sex
maximusonward 1 year ago
only idiot girls are getting pregnant,they don't really care about their future.what important is they want s>x
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TheBalrogzH 1 year ago
i only clicked on this cause i saw a hot chick =.=
KenKennieKen 2 years ago
He raises an interesting point but the fact still remains that whether it's genetic or not it's still largely unacceptable for teenagers to become parents.
The pressure of sexual selection holds much less significance in the modern world than it did in the past when it truly was survival of the fittest. In a civilised, developed and social society it should be the social pressure that wins out over sexual selection.
Social pressure dictates that it is wrong for children to become parents.
sims9287 2 years ago 3
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Catsie15 1 year ago
ABORTION!!!!!!!!!
themightyjoseph 2 years ago
please don't tell me this clown is saying it's good for teens to get pregnant. If you can't look after yourself why bring another one of you into the world. I don't give a shite if science says children should have kids. most scientist are the same idiots that believe we evolved from apes. What are we going to become next pigs having underaged pigs?
Olabisi19 2 years ago
but it is good for them to have kids earlier because there are less risks of the baby dying or having some sort of problems like down syndrome, this is a known fact
themightyjoseph 2 years ago
yeah how dare they base their beleif's on facts, what idiots!
whitebreadgirlfriend 2 years ago 2
Ignoring fact again; are you? He is not saying it's good for them to get pregnant, He's just pointing out the fact that there is a genetic connection. No where is he saying "Because it's genetic, we should let them have kids". No, We obviously would not evolve into pigs. but maybe there might be a new sub species if God takes another rib from a man and a woman at the time time and put them together. Since magic makes more sense.
Elodee123 2 years ago
Oh, I forgot to mention! May God B.less, Ramen!
Elodee123 2 years ago
what the f
room12x 2 years ago
This guy probably has a Ph.D. and did tons of research on this. So it might be a good idea to just keep an open mind and listen? Unless, of course, someone else out there with similar credentials did a comparable amount of research to refute his claims.
I'm just sayin'.
sailormoonjoo 2 years ago 31
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its not genetic god so stupid
foxxxy208 2 years ago
okay so you're telling me that all the work Darwain and Mendel did studying the Origins of life applies to teen pregnancy...Teen pregnancy is not a trait that can be passed down neither is ignorance...you cant even class pregnancy as an acquired trait.
repmyclass2010 2 years ago
@repmyclass2010 you show an absolutely shocking level of intelligence and open mindedness! idiot! do you even know what dar hypothesised, in years ago it would have been advantageous to get pregnant early hence the natural selection(genetic selection) for girls who could get pregnant early before disease or other environmental factors rendered them sterile.
tompierce100 1 year ago
genetics has nothing to do with a girl choosing a have unprotected sex at a young age. this guy doesnt know what he's talking about..
repmyclass2010 2 years ago
For real.
IRONiHonakoo 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up! it can't be genetic, it's pretty unfare that it takes Sara Pailin's daughter to get pregnant to raise the issue, I didn't believe anyhin he's sayin I hope I didn't offend anyone in this comment
crazyrainbowlover 2 years ago
bullshit
mera20javier 2 years ago
i dont think having kids at a really young age is a good thing but i do think that teenage parents make just as good of parents as anybody else.
majorhottie338 2 years ago
statistics disagree
theletter23 2 years ago
@majorhottie338 as long as they can surpport the child financially with out needing hand outs from the goverment and they are mature enough to raise a child when they are only a child themselves dont think so its usually the grand parents who raise the kids because the others cant
dihle12 1 year ago
@majorhottie338 Thank you, someone w/a sense of mind. It's not the age that matters it's if you're mature or not. I've seen a 30 year old have her first child and was as lost as a teen. (For all the ignorant people...)
happylandable 1 year ago
rofl DAD AT 13!! LOL man tooooo young and so sad....
still... i had to laugh... im bad too~ :P
deineTage 2 years ago
why dont u accept that your dirty civillization based on nudity and alcohlism is creating these problems for u?
SkZindagiRocks 2 years ago 3
people make choices, dont blame your surroundings!
rainxxxx 2 years ago
I think this link is clearly fallible. My incontrovertible evidence that allowed me to come to my conclusion (by means of consolidating all of my aggregate data) is:
how the hell can you take someone wearing a leopard skin tie seriously? :S
Moore0806 2 years ago 2
what age was sarahs daughter when she got preggers?
Realteen 2 years ago
Sarah encourage her daughter to start fucking when she was still a Brownie.
txmcxlx 2 years ago
I think she was 17.
BittenxApple 2 years ago
i dnt think its enyone biz tbh ! most teen mums r like enyotha mum i think aven kids in 35-40 is wrong as ur bby cud be born with sumin wrong bt yey thay dnt say enyfink bout that!
mrspohx 2 years ago
the way this country is going if the mom already has a daughter and doesn't want to go through pregnancy they'll just ask their teen to get them one ^^
pjwithbread8 2 years ago
He's really out of breath!
CountryGirlatheart9 2 years ago
Dad at the age 13......omg, where is my belt, I need to hang myself.....lol
Overpopulation1 2 years ago
i dont think its right to have to have kidsat so a young age >:( x
missMollyxXxXx 2 years ago
I don't think anyone is genetically prone to making any kind of decision in life. Teenagers are influenced by many things.
shelljell26 2 years ago
Very interesting clip. Once again, cultural selection fights against natural selection: the best part about being a human.
andid 2 years ago
wow...its crazy how all these destructive decisions are found to be genetic...i just learned that alcoholism is largely a genetic tendency too...and serial killers/psychopaths have smaller amygdalas than normal people. makes you rethink the idea of morality and judgement....also makes you rethink the validation of things like homosexuality because of their inborn tendencies
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Don't you think it more likely that "destructive decisions" are examined more than are neutral decisions? That is, it is potentially more valuable to understand whether or not alcoholism, sociopathy, etc have a genetic correlate than deciphering familial inheritance of a love of chocolate.
However, confounding factors must be ruled out. Homosexuality, for example, probably has an epigenetic basis rather than that there is a "gay gene".
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
well yea, my point wasn't so much to suggest an actual genetic role in homosexuality but just that it is a tendency (as opposed to a choice). that homosexuals don't necessarily choose to be homosexuals is why it is validated, while it seems alcoholics, serial killers, and apparently teenage mothers also don't necessarily choose to do the things they do either.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
He is not actually saying that teen pregnancy has a genetic basis, though. He is saying that it would have an advantage in terms of natural selection -- start early, reproduce more. This manifests as early menarche, which often occurs decades before reproduction.
Sociological evidence suggests that upbringing is the strongest factor in teen pregnancy. Family dysfunction is more often associated with teen pregnancy. And, yes, I would expect Palin to be a dysfunctional ma.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
1:03...he says a study done in australia on twins suggests a genetic basis...and then he offers an explanation of a possible evolutionary advantage.
sociological evidence (more likely statistical rather than experimental) definitely does not rule out many of the confounding factors. just like alcoholism, statistically, seems to be more in people of lower socio-economic status, an actual scientific study with controls that isolate causes shows alcoholism has a genetic basis.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
statistics don't take into account our ability to modify our behavior, to an extent, because of cultural pressures. so someone genetically prone to do something can possibly not do it because the people around them aren't (it obviously depends on how strong the genetic impulse is and how isolated your influences are, etc.)
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Did I say anything different, or did you merely imagine that I had? Genetics might predispose, but environment and education modify complex behaviours. Birth control helps to delay pregnancy, regardless of behaviour.
Sociological studies are necessarily statistical because ethics preclude much direct experimentation on people, and longitudinal studies take a long time. Besides, investigator interaction would become one of the variables.
Do you have a reference for the alcoholism study?
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
Yes, you did say something different: you made it seem as if he wasn't saying there is a genetic basis, while that is the actual main purpose of this lecture (the main purpose was not his speculations on the evolutionary basis for the findings, which is what you implied).
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
How about, "He is not actually saying that teen pregnancy has a genetic *imperative*, though."? The rest of what I said implied just this.
Most girls reach menarche by 12-13, and this is younger than previously because of higher trending BMI. Luckily, most girls don't conceive as soon as they could! Environment is more important.
From PubMed: "COGA has detected association with GABRA2, CHRM2 and ADH4"
Addict Biol. 2006 Sep;11(3-4):386-96.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
i don't follow you...how is the age of menarche relevant in the context of what is being said in this video and how does it suggest an environmental cause? the trends of menarche and BMI aside, the study mentioned is claimed to have found a genetic basis (with no further details given with the audience giving the benefit of the doubt in terms of isolating variables). how do menarche trends disprove the suggestion made in this video?
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Didn't you say that you are in med school?
Do you imagine that girls can conceive *prior* to menarche? Even the unfortunate 9 yr-old whose fetus was aborted after her rape had reached menarche very young.
Do you not accept that menarche is controlled by both genes and environment (BMI)? The earlier trending age of menarche results from better nutrition. Cultural influences push for a delay in conception for years, or decades, post-menarche.
Culture over-rides genetics.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
"Didn't you say that you are in med school?"
...hmm, it would be pretty presumptuous of you to question my knowledge of medicine off the bat for a misunderstanding on your part, don't you think? its a good thing you are avoiding this youtube endemic...
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Please stop jumping to conclusions.
Since I have been there and done that, I was trying to figure out where you are having difficulty with the concept. I'm guessing that you are in first year.
I have already explained sufficiently. I suggest that you stop getting defensive and think about the principles involved. You are over-complicating the principles.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
"I'm guessing that you are in first year....I suggest that you stop getting defensive and think about the principles involved."
its hard not to get defensive when you are clearly challenging my education (something most would interpret as being OFFensive). i am actually 3 months away from finishing my basic sciences and you have yet to provide any useful information...all i've been hearing is irrelevant jibberish disguising your ignornace on the subject.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
You took offense where it was not intended.
Medical schools vary in curricula. We had basic sciences for one and a half school years, then we shifted full-time to clinical sciences. Fairly standard approach, I'd expect.
Topics such as possible genetic basis for alcholism would have been in first year when we did a nonsensical course called "doctor patient relations". Not that the concept is unimportant, just that it was stuck at the beginning because we knew no clinical medicine.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
basic sciences comprise the first 2 school years in almost every medical school i've heard of and clinical sciences the second 2 school years. like i said, i was learning about the genetic basis for alcoholism in behavioral sciences. doctor-patient relations only deals with exactly what it sounds like it would deal with...doctor-patient relations(an application of the basic sciences to clinical situations with patients as well as the related clinical skills.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
"Didn't you say that you are in med school?"
if that isn't a challenge to my education, i'm not sure what is. if offense wasn't intended, i'm guessing you offend a lot of people without "intending" it.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Nope.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
since you have "been there and done that" i'm sure you can respond without defensively attacking my medical education. i have already explained the utter irrelevance of the menarche trends in this conversation.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
2. Perhaps you'd like to explain how you think that genetics could be expected to impact teen pregnancy. Please keep Occam's Razor in mind.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
"please keep occam's razor in mind.."
did you really just refer to occam's razor????
"Perhaps you'd like to explain..."
some women are genetically prone to make socially unacceptable choices with respect to unprotected sexual activity. i'm not sure why i'm explaining another person's findings though...PLEASE KEEP THIS VIDEO IN MIND.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
Yes. I assumed that you would be familiar with Occam's Razor.
The video does not actually elaborate a genetic mechanism (beyond mentioning natural selection -- which is tautological).
OK. By what genetic mechanism are women rendered "prone to make socially unacceptable choices"?
You asked me to explain. Now, I'm asking you.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
if my explanations seem "over-complicated" to you, perhaps you are trying to push an issue that is slightly over your head. rather than reacting defensively to your lack of understanding on the subject through attacking my knowledge, it would be easier for us both if you would just humbly concede that your layman understanding of the issue is inappropriate for the arrogance with which you are attacking my education.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
3. You are still coming from a defensive position of attack. You know nothing of my understanding. You appear not to have comprehended what I meant by "been there, done that."
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
"you are still cmoing from a defensive position of attack..."
??? i wasn't aware i was trying to hide it. i'm pretty sure i made it very obvious i was attacking you defensively and in response to your offenses.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
I did not say that you were trying to hide it. You simply appear to be failing to get beyond your wounded pride. Perhaps you are particularly prone to assume that your medical knowledge is being questioned.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
perhaps...or perhaps you are particularly prone to hide behind pseudo-intellectual condescension on youtube where people don't actually know you so you can pretend to be as intelligent as you want, and maybe thats because your intellect isn't respected in the real world...perhaps...but who am i to speculate?
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
menarche is not in question. going back to challenging the relevance of a reference to menarche (to which you defensively attacked my medical knowledge). this is a question of psychology (with the trends of menarche probably being controlled for, there is found to be a genetic basis behind NOT CHOOSING [a behavior] to abide by more socially acceptable norms in protected sexual activity/pregnancy with respect to age)
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
if you are suggesting a behavioral connection with trends in menarche (the trends suggesting people should be choosing to conceive earlier) you will have to provide evidence. so far all you have proven is that the increasing epidemic of obesity is contributing to menarche occurring earlier than normal (not because of better nutrition).
most importantly, even if what you said was true...to conclude with the blanket statement "culture overrides genetics" because of that is simply ignorant.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
There is no need to justify sociological studies, i recognize their usefulness on certain issues. but in teh face of real experimental studies, like the one on alcohol i keep mentioning or the one this guy is mentioning in this video, statistics are the less useful type. if anything, experiment studies are meant to refine findings in statistics.
i guess the only reference I can give is a KAPLAN review book for the USMLE, behavioral sciences. I am learning about alcoholism in medical school.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
"Do you have a reference for the alcoholism study?"
Translation: I don't want to be believe what you just said, so maybe if you cannot reference the study, I won't have ot.
fileboy2002 2 years ago
"Do you have a reference for the alcoholism study?"
Actual translation: "Do you have a reference for the alcoholism study?" ... *I am interested to know (implied).*
The fact that I went looking for the information should have been a clue.
Assuming that you know more about a person's intentions than what the person is actually saying is a ridiculous presumption. It seems to be an endemic problem on YouTube.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
i think you need to relax a little. you asked for a reference, i offered with the source from which i learned the information: a review book from which I am studying for a class in medical school. your observations on presumptuous youtube replies is interesting...could it be you just proved you are the one guilty of what you accuse me of?
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
That reply was not to you.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
You are one of the few. My own observation about Youtube is that people never ask for sources from someone saying something they agree with. They DEMAND sources from those with whom they differ. THAT is the real edemic problem.
fileboy2002 2 years ago
I know that alcoholism and serial killers have a genetic basis that sets them in their set categories but I don't believe that homosexuality is genetic. Possible but I would need to see some proof.
funkydragon2005 2 years ago
Its disturbing to see you link alcoholism and serial killers with homosexuality. Homosexuality is not a disorder like alcoholism or being a killer.
Inupiatun 2 years ago
but homosexuality is something that is considered by some as immoral, the argument against which is that it is beyond a person's control and is therefore not in moral question. these genetic studies that tell us more about our choices and how much control we actually have over them forces us to re-examine what morality really is.
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
4. A question. Do you consider yourself a social liberal or a social conservative.
LeetleGreyCells 2 years ago
Take the $ out of it and 'genetics' falls apart. Stop throwing money at it.
One might try and look at the paretnt(s).
GBS990 2 years ago
Nope!
People low in the socioeconomic chain find that pregnancy is the only way they can self-actualize
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
stupid teenagers should use condoms
mrzack888 2 years ago
I knew it was my mom's fault..
hurchel 2 years ago
There is no such thing "stupid people", only the input makes them act "stupid"! Intelligence people might not have a damn chance to go to college, never mind getting a better job, what u saying is pure crap, Gen. Franco, and eugenics would be pride of you JennyFartLopez.
P3t3rG1 2 years ago
Is there a genetic basis for being a religious dumbass fucktard? All teens are horny as fuck. Enough teens get some on regular basis. Just learn to use a bloody condom and stop with the ridiculous abstinence only myth. I that doesnt work, try using a coat hanger.
wimscheers 2 years ago
Yes there is. Low IQs have a genetic basis. Stupid people tend to drop their studies, find a crappy job, get married with stupid people, then have lots of stupid children to whom give a poor education...
Intelligent people tend to continue studying, get a better job, marry later with intelligent people, have few children to whom give a good education, etc.
Thankfully stupid people tend to die at a higher rate due to stupid behavoiur. Otherwise they would rapidly dominate the population.
JennyFarlopez 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this is the sad truth.
RBGTHUG 2 years ago
All IQ's have a genetic basis.
You seem to be insinuating that only, as you say,"stupid" people become pregnant in their teens. This is not true. Many highly intelligent people become pregnant at a young age. It has nothing to do with a persons IQ, but with raging hormones and their financial surroundings. And yes there are smart people that are horny and poor!!
You must be quite young and nieve to think that of , as you say, "stupid" people. Life will someday slap you in the face my dear!
pjspassions 2 years ago 2
I wasn't insinuating anything. I was adressing the point on whether there is a "genetic basis for being a religious fucktard".
I only say said there is some correlation. Politics and biology aren't made of particular cases, but of what's true to a large extent. You know, exceptions confirm the rule and all this stuff.
Most intelligent people don't see an issue in abortion, so they won't ruin their life at a young age because of a bad decision.
JennyFarlopez 2 years ago
well said
Invain01 2 years ago
What you say about how stupid people act and how smart people act is true to a large extent, there are some cases which break the patter we can agree on of course.
However there is nothing that shows that intelligence is genetically driven in the way that it'll effect society. Of course general intelligence is genetic, otherwise dogs would be as smart as us. But no one can positively show a causation relationship which genetics and a certain IQ.
Slug99 2 years ago
I read somewhere IQ can be predicted within a 10 points error margin, depending only on the parents' IQ. There are, of course, developemental factors, but for an average environment it seems to be largely genetic-driven.
JennyFarlopez 2 years ago
Does those predictions include children who have been raised by non-biological parents?
Slug99 2 years ago
I don't think so.
I think I read that in Scientific American. It shouldn't be difficult to google it and find it.
JennyFarlopez 2 years ago
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JennyFarlopez 2 years ago
So sex-ed would seem to be working.
riversonthemoon 2 years ago 2
Hmm, oversex teenagers! You would expect teenage pregnancy. A few hundred years ago people were married in their teens and so was normal then...Thing now is we don't marry as early but the teens are still at it like bunnies...
therock27374 2 years ago 2
marriage has nothing to do with it
Shadizar666 2 years ago
It's true. Our bodies think we're half-way through our lives when we're in our teens. But now that we're living to 80 or 90, society has had come up with ways of delaying those instincts.
m0nkeybl1tz 2 years ago
Society should come up with ways of getting condoms and birth control into the hands of the people who need them. The age of consent of Italy is fourteen, yet their teen pregnancy rate is FAR lower than our's. For a developed country, the US teen pregnancy rate is excessively high. Where the hell is Obama's plan to get this under control NOW?
CitizenCindy 2 years ago