We want Single Payer - Medicare For All

[TheHAMMER77777]

FUCK THIS COMMUNIST SHIT...AND REPEAL OBAMACARE WHILE WE'RE AT IT..I KNOW ITS PRIVATE, BUT STILL SUBSIDIZED..ALL SUBSIDIES SHOULD BE STOPPED ALL

[healthmusic]

I really like how the Afro-American restaurant owner. Our current system isn't working (except for the profiteers). I use to have halfway decent insurance through my job; than economy went bad. But, because I lost my job and insurance while in my 50's I fear I can't be re-employed at the kind of job that lets me have insurance.

[gunsnroses2020]

@healthmusic Well, employer mandated insurance is a federal regulation. If you did not have that in the first place, you would still have a vibrant individual insurance market and your insurance would not depend on your employment status. Single payer always results in rationed and inefficient care and massive bureaucracy. Because if it were as efficient at delivering complex services, we would be okay to let govt take 100% taxes and run the entire economy top to bottom. Does't work that way.

[healthmusic]

@gunsnroses2020 That is bullcrap that the insurance company pirates hope you believe. The profiteers have successfully scared you and many other Americans. It is working in Canada; even Canadians who don't like their system are terrified they will be the ones having their jobs and insurance taken away.

A-For-Da-Ble Health' will save our economy

it is in the best interest of everybody.

if every job moved out of the country,

than (tell me) whose gonna pay the medical fee?

[healthmusic]

@gunsnroses2020 I have to disagree; not saying it would cause no problems, but the benefits would outweigh.We don't have the world's best care, we are 37th. Yes, we have the world's best care for the filthy rich. It costs less to cover every citizen than it does to go through the extremely expensive private insurance.

Gov is not so bad, it's those who get to buy the gov; one of which is the private insurance companies.

[TheHAMMER77777]

@gunsnroses2020 GOOD POINT

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim fine, then we agree.  have a nice day

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim wrong, dummy. illegal aliens use our hospitals and refuse to pay the bill. and then they have babies which automatically become U.S. citizens and qualify for welfare benefits. you cannot compare your country to the USA. you have much fewer people.

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim see how well your economy would survive if 20 million illegal aliens snuck into your country. This is why you cannot compare your country to the USA. You have much fewer mouths to feed.

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim sounds like you are against illegal immigration

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim free food, housing, and healthcare, huh? is there anything you actually want to work for?

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim so you are saying that lazy in people in your country are thrown out? fucking liar

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim I'll tell you what, socialist parasite. If I ever want to be lazy, I will move to your country that way I can get a free ride. America is for hard workers. Your country is for parasites.

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim wow, your country sucks. poor people including people too lazy to work get a free ride by other taxpayers. you are a socialist thug.

[healthmusic]

@gusfromflorida Yes, some people will get a free ride; but it is happening anyway. It is not suppose to be that way.

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim is food, housing, and car and human right too? do you want everything for free? or do you actually want to earn some things? fucking trashy parasite.

[gusfromflorida]

@Rofistim FREE healthcare is not a human right, you socialist parasite. pay your own bills instead of expecting me to pay your bills, you pathetic loser

[Spytheweb]

Here's a idea, let the liberal states enact single payer health systems and let the red states have what they have now or whatever insurance companies can think of. Blue will have single payer medicare for all.

[megagagnon1]

isn't food a human right? give everyone a food card.

[TheAustrian08]

Liberal people from a liberal state with liberal ideas want other people to pay for their healthcare. I wonder if wolves could talk what arguments they could put forth for eating lambs...

[juxtn]

I am sorry to hear about the working "artist" and the self-employed people who can't afford health care. But, why is that the failure of the current health system? I see that more as a personal failure and they have choices to make to improve their situation in life if what they currently are doing is not working out for them.

[Marleyites]

Medicare for everyone? Give the fed gov even more power? More control? Who's going to pay for this?

[Russellt0228]

i highly recommend anyone who has cancer in the family to read studies about cancer survival under social health care systems as opposed to what we have in the US.

Woman in England die at a higher pace of breast cancer then in the US. as well as Germany...

Let's not be like the idiots at the town hall meetings and just push for something because we believe jesus wanted it. instead let us be independents. please

[Russellt0228]

I just cant wait for you lazy angry bastards to get a singular system. I REALLY CANT

You assholes complain about waiting for the train if it's over five minutes.

please god pass this plan so i can come back to youtube in 10 years and hear how pissed off these soft civil savages have become

[Russellt0228]

why oh why do liberals get so angry when anyone disagrees with them. My father-in-law has been denied medicaid because 5 years ago he was covered by his wife's insurance. she has been unemployed for a year. These morons can't fight wars, and can't figure costs. next time vote for a boring president instead of the fun one

[gusfromflorida]

What an obnoxious title for this video... "WE WANT SINGLE PAYER."  Well, I want a new Ferrari, but I don't expect other taxpayers to be forced to buy me one.

[treid100182]

Fuck you! Unlike your "ferrari," Healthcare is what makes us human beings, and everyone should receive it. Sorry you would rather have a shiny, little-dick mobile, than help mankind...I hope you, one day, understand what it is like to be bogged down, or bankcrupt, by Healthcare Debt.

[gusfromflorida]

You should be nicer to the people whom you expect to pay your bills, parasite.

[gusfromflorida]

A black man wants freebies from other taxpayers? What a surprise.

[healthmusic]

I wish I could have been one of those you interviewed for this video. I am for Single-Payer, HR676. A mild disability means I am in a serious disadvantage competing for available jobs that are living wage and health insurance bearing. I have Aspergers Syndrome, a mild form of autism.

A-For-Da-Ble health' will save our economy,

it is in the best interest of everybody,

if every job moves out of the country,

than (tell me) whose gonna pay the medical fee?

[travelfar22]

The MAJORITY of Americans want Single-Payer like Canada

and Nader is for it! Relying on the health care "industry" as

it is now, assures you'll be considered a mere NUMBER!

18,000 Americans WILL DIE next year who lack access

to health care with our present health care "industry"!

47 Million Americans HAVE NO health care!

We The People want Single-Payer like Canada!

Vote Nader/Gonzalez 08!

[TheHAMMER77777]

@travelfar22 NO THEY DON'T

[billionaireby16]

Single-Payer Baby!!! I want Obama to come out publicly for this!!! I'm voting for him, because Kucinich endorsed him... So let's do this!!!

[nohealthcare62]

Kucinich is the only one who wants to give us all Universal Health Care He has my vote ! Kucinich 2008***

[CenterLeftLiberal]

Well, actually all Dems do. You can vote for Hillary, Obama or Edwards - their plans are nearly identical and would give us a universal coverage system.

[mybigbearron]

That's one reason why I wouldn't vote for any of them. Such plans are tools of force and intrusion -- much like slavery and robbery. I want nothing to do with such mob and rob mentality.

[CenterLeftLiberal]

Yeah, providing everyone with the basic human right that is health care is mob and rob, whereas the current HMO who routinely deny needed treatment and force people into bancrupcy don't rob.

[mybigbearron]

HMO doesn't force anyone to buy in. Entitlements to the earnings of others is morally repulsive to me. Just as with food, you can get what you are willing to pay for with your own earnings even if it means planning ahead. No one owes me (or you) any "health care" that I (or you) haven't paid for.

[mybigbearron]

Leave me completely out of Medicare. I want nothing to do with it. I want to be NO PART of any national health care system/plan. You choose for yourself. I'll choose for myself.

[CenterLeftLiberal]

Fine, in countries such as Germany you can chose not to be insured through the government - few people make that choice though.

[mybigbearron]

Given the choice, I'll opt out.

[CenterLeftLiberal]

I wouldn't be sure about that once you are confronted with having to undergo a procedure, your HMO has denied your claim and your only choice is between death and bancrupcy.

[jscottupton]

Single (government taxed) payer sucks. See quote below.

[jscottupton]

"Is not the State an idol? Is it not like any graven image into which men have read supernatural powers and superhuman capacities? The State can feed us when we are hungry, heal us when we are ill; it can raise wages and lower prices, even at the same time; it can educate our children without cost; it can provide us against the contingencies of old age and amuse us when we are bored; it can give us electricity by passing laws and improve the game of baseball by regulation.

[CenterLeftLiberal]

Wow, a whole bunch a beautiful empty rhetoric.

[jscottupton]

What cannot the State do for us if only we have faith in it? And we have faith. No creed in the history of the world ever captured the hearts and minds of men as has the modern creed of Statism."

~ Frank Chodorov (from The Need of a Golden Calf)

[SupportWeThePeopleKB]

Single payer spreads the risk so that no one gets the double whammy of fighting disease and fighting off bankruptcy. The 3% figure is accurate for administration of Medicare, though you could add the doctor's expenses and bring it up to 5%. The fraud issue someone mentioned is in another catagory - waste. If you include clinical waste and fraud, the nonmedically necessary costs swell up to 50 cents on the dollar. Single payer. Cut the profiteering and give people health care.

[Dreamer981]

The whole idea is ill-conceived in a way a schoolchild can understand. Free market or not, there is a limited supply of healthcare available, and only the price dyamic can curb demand. The system will be tied up equally by people with soiled nappies and people with fatal diseases, and no amount of red tape can ever help.

[Lizzychan5]

If this system is so "ill-conceived" then why do all other industrialized nations have this single-payer system?

All nations with a single-payer system give health care to everyone, they charge less per-person than we do in America because health insurers wastes 30% of every health care dollar in administration costs, as opposed to Medicare (a government run health care) only spends 3.5% in administration costs.

If we eliminate the waste we will have more than enough to cover everyone.

[nextdoornorth]

Lizzychan5, glad to see a young person taking your kind of interest in this issue. You may not need healthcare now, but the evolution of healthcare today will directly affect you down the road.

I saw 'Sicko' two months ago and the average age was over fifty. It's even stopped playing where I live now.

I encourage you to speak to others your age in this kind of forum and more.

[Dreamer981]

So what you are saying is, that if we cut administration costs, doctors will fall from the sky? You can't simply look at wealth and economics in terms of numbers. You have to see where the numbers come from. If there is enough health care to cover everyone really easily, why does government need to step in? The markets would set the price low enough for anyone to afford. People wouldn't need insurance or medicare.

[CenterLeftLiberal]

Why government and not the market? Becuase in the market the incentive of insurance companies is to provide as little care as possible and deny care whenever possible. That is why the U.S. has, according to the World Health Organization, the worst health care system in the rich world (even worse than Canada w/ its waiting lines - well, waiting beats no treatment at all).

[Dreamer981]

I don't like the concept of medical insurance in general. My point was that medical insurance doesn't work because it's an oversocialization of the industry. People do not directly pay for their care, so doctors are not subject to supply and demand and prices shoot up; because prices shoot up, people need insurance. Universal healthcare is an extension of this problem.

[CenterLeftLiberal]

Interesting hypothesis, but consider that the U.S. has most expensive system in the world by far yet ranks behind all the other rich countries with unviersal systems according to the World Health Organization. Remeber, drugs are cheaper in Canada, not the U.S. Also, people should not have to pay for their care, becuase it is a basic human right. Moreover, people are not inclined to over-consume health care (nobody likes going to the doc).

[DenverDave2]

Supply and demand? Health insurance companies make money with the underwriting process where they determine if the applicant is likely to need health care - if so - they reject the applicant. This is the way that health care works until we go toSingle-Payer Universal Health Care and use the 20 to 30 % overhead for health insurance to deliver care.

[jscottupton]

The film says "The medicare program has just 3 percent overhead".

That is not accurate.

Fraud ALONE is much more than 3 percent. But there are several studies showing that the 3 percent figure is way too low.

[jscottupton]

Your health care, paid for by someone else, is not a natural right...it is a "wish". The US does NOT have a free market health care system. 45 cents on the dollar spent on health care in the US is spent by the government. More importantly, the government heavily regulates and taxes health care. Single payer is a bad idea. The answer is get the government OUT. The real issue is helping the poor. We can do that without government involvement.

[nextdoornorth]

The U.S. spends 15% of its GNP on a healthcare system that does not provide service for everyone. Excellent service for some, good service for others, and nothing for many. Canada spends 9% offering good to excellent to service to everyone with no exceptions. Single-payer spreads the cost fairly and effectively. Eliminate redundant administration and profit and what's left goes to care, as it should.

Get rich corporate insurers and doctors will oppose this for self-serving reasons.

[Dreamer981]

Amen to that. The government is a business like any other, except people pay it to make them miserable and it loses money like a crack addict. Poverty, disaster and death give these people jobs; why would they ever want to fix it?

[johndebso]

The government is a business like any other. Maybe Dreamer should do a little less dreaming and a lot more thinking.

[Dreamer981]

The government is not a business like any other. All business is voluntary. The government can use force, and it can take as much money as it wants, which leads to a complete inability to manage it properly.

[gundamWWW]

I am an American and I endsorse this message, lol!

[finleyd]

Business is NOT necessarily voluntary! Ask those forced under the East India Company, the workers in Coal Country who "owed their souls to the company store", or slaves forced to work on plantations.

[Davidmeimers]

Singler payer saves the profits and admin and covers everyone. It's not charity, we pay into it fairly. THen it's there when anyone needs it. US system penalizes the poor, sick and aging. It forces people into bankruptcy and is the most expensive health care in the world. US has Poor infant mortality, life span and chronic care outcomes. Insurance companies are finance companies take them out of the equation.

[nextdoornorth]

Without question the solution is 'single payer'.

Multiple payers of medical services (insurers)naturally require profits to survive. Trouble there, is that to do so also requires reducing provision of services where possible and all too often unfairly and tragically. Profit and provision are conflicts of interest. If the U.S. society were to begin to genuinely look after each other and truly leave no one behind, it would witness a stunning drop in crime and a national pride based on substance.

[librophile]

Don't patronize Americans and say it's not free, "We pay for it with taxes!." Well we drive on city streets for FREE -- their construction paid with taxes, they are FREE, -- books at our libraries are FREE, -- our Fire Departments, Police Departments etc., are FREE. These are all FREE services, collectively socialized and paid for with our tax dollars. To argue that Health Care -- a life & death issue for many -- shouldn't be considered in the exact SAME league is LUDICROUS and ARCHAIC.

[cfbastiat]

You can't cheat reality no matter how well-meaning. Government can't repeal the law of supply and demand. They can only disrupt vital price signals and add obstacles to make health care cost more. Would you have the government run the grocery stores? Can you imagine the long lines and shortages? The answer is to get them entirely out of the health care business (Medicare, FDA, physician licensing, & insurance regulations). More freedom equals lower costs, less freedom equals higher costs.

[nextdoornorth]

It is precisely the laws of supply and demand that has caused the mess the U.S is in now. Medical care is one of the greatest needs everyone has at one time or another. Embracing 'market forces' and selling it to the highest bidder has driven the price up and up, much like an auction. Hardly a humane practise and one which results in provision for those with the greatest amount of money and leaves others by the wayside. Is this the kind of society anyone wants?

[redfieldc]

We live in Flint, MI. Mott Park. Aetna Insurance is refusing to pay over $65,000 for my hospital bill which they say they owe. ??? We are now facing retirement and losing our paid for house. I have it posted it on youtube. Just search the words AETNA INSURANCE UNFAIR PRACTICES - GOING TO LOSE OUR HOME and it will be the first one to come up. Give them hell, Michael. They are sure giving it to America.

[rutvijhshukla]

Single payer system sucks! Trust me I am in one - UK.

Long waiting lists, severe rationing of healthcare. Unmotivated doctors - low pay. Healthcare shoud not be right just like the way one is not born with the right to a house or right to demand a car! Why healthcare!