how to be an AUDIO RECORDING ENGINEER - www.audiointern.com

[baybizzle84]

this guy is amazing

[mojosarmyband]

He's got a point about Michael Jackson records, I never really noticed but go put some headphones on and listen to ANY of his songs -- even streamed from a compressed YouTube vid they're sonically amazing....

[mindstormsabrewin]

I always wanted to get into recording but could never afford the school or the gear. I'm SO glad I never got into that business. Hardly anyone that spent their years and money on their recording career is making money. Not when Garageband or Logic is available. What used to cost millions of dollars in gear, studio space and hired engineers can be done on a laptop by a kid in his bedroom. And the software will only get more powerful.

[DouglasRoss1]

As a home recording engineer, I am sure without a doubt that I will never stop learning. I am depending on that little flame inside me that knows it will always get better and easier. I appreciate this video in so many ways. Thank you for your insight. I always look to people like yourself who are experienced and are there to help us.

[MrDjSeamless325]

from what i have learned its not what you use but how you use it (considering producing) as far as artists and reputation.... it aint what you know but who you know..... why do you think lil wayne is famous? ive heard amazing songs from studios in Austin Texas that should have gotten radio play long before all of this other shit thats on the radio

[PiaBrisebois]

Gary Granite is 100% correct. Recording Engineering is not something you can make a living from anymore.

[GaryGranite]

The main issue is nobody is willing to pay for recording anymore. Everyone expects recording to be free, or close to it. Try to make a living when you get paid either nothing, or $5/hr which is essentially the same thing. Recording Engineering is a dead profession. Any money spent on those bogus 'recording institutes' is money flushed down the drain. You will never, ever, make any significant income from it. useless

[ShallowGroundDrummer]

Ouchies. Spend (IDK what?!?!? 50 grand?) End up spending a life time paying off the loan? Yikez! How about a little ambition, and intelligence to pursue your dream with what's available on the internet? Spend your 50K on equipment, and two years researching your dream. You'll surely come out ahead! At least you can sell the equipment if you change your mind. Can't sell your college degree. Key word is "initiative." I don't care what you do in life. If you don't have that. You're worthless.

[Multipurposevids]

I can imagine lots of things different on a track. I do it, it's called remastering, and remixing. Welcome to the world of DJs

[adoplaydoh]

@Multipurposevids you can remix michael jackson all you want. but its not gonna be better than the original. fanny

[GaryGranite]

The only way to make a penny with recording engineering, is to teach it to someone else.

[GaryGranite]

I used to be a recording engineer. Used to. Here's why I don't do it anymore. $5/hr. Try to make a living at $5/hr. That's what it works out to once I factor in time I don't get paid a cent for but working anyway. I have 20 years experience, an even dozen gold albums, hundreds of credits. The truth is this: studios do NOT hire recording engineers. They are all freelance, and making pocket change. Live sound is the only place to make a buck, and it's a pittance.

[iLIKESmeTHecheese]

This is what I want to do with my life I want to record music.

[miracleworker12744]

I want to attend the art insitutes and take the audo prduction program they have there. It's not a recording engineer school, they teach a lot of diffrent art forms. And they teach all the standrads the recording industry recquires.

[Robynasdf123]

Totally agree with areuter727. Every town in North America with a population over, like, 50 people has a 'recording engineering institute'. They all follow the same pattern. They want TONS of YOUR money (because nobody can make any money actually making recordings anymore), there are no serious prerequisites (because they want your money), you get a worthless 'qualification' if you can call it that, then you find out there isn't a single job in the entire world for recording engineers.

[magnetglue]

Whatever you do, do not spend thousands on a recording school. I agree with @areuter727 I used to be a professional audio engineer as well. And I have heard some Bruce Swedien stories ...

[areuter727]

Want to know where the money is in audio engineering?

Audio engineering schools. Yep. And software development for the home studio user. People would rather buy a few thousand dollars worth of gear than spend the same on recording in a studio. Everyone's listening on their sh*tty iPod earbuds anyway so does quality really matter much?

I am a paid engineer but I usually only have occasional weekend or weeknight gigs. Not much...it's a barren land.

[Robynasdf123]

@areuter727 Absolutely the best advice here. Dead on 100% correct.

[rawrgrr4298]

This guy seems like an awesome person to just sit down and talk to for hours.

[Robynasdf123]

People - The value of a recording engineer in today's job market is exactly this ZERO.

There are no longer any jobs for recording engineers, anywhere in the world, that pay enough to live (poorly) from. Nothing. Opening up your own studio will make you poor, and then what?. Studio time goes for $50/hr now. How the hell can you pay your gear, utilities, rent and have anything left over? Stay away from Recording Engineering unless you want to be broke and miserable.

[freedomatwhatprice]

So many young record producers today made their money in drug sales and then moved into the recording industry and have made millions. People like Cash money millionaires of Cash money records were able to funnel that money from drugs into a business. While decent people who have never broken the law have never been able to break into this industry. It has been my dream to own my own recording studio to make other people's dreams come true. How can I do this? Help

[syanez5]

@freedomatwhatprice im in your position

and im so confused

[kosbeuno]

@freedomatwhatprice HOLLER AT A DRUG DEALER & STOP SNITCHING LOL!!! U CAN ALSO CHECK OUT SAE INSTITUTE GOOGLE IT DOOD.

[LastDayStudios]

@freedomatwhatprice "While decent people who have never broken the law have never been able to break into this industry."? >>>>This is a Judgement>>>And Its totally not true>>The Percentage of non-lawbreakers in the industry are greater compared to non-lawbreakers... Thank God...those non-lawbreakers..adapted from a criminal mind which couldve landed them in jail, or shot dead, to an entrepreneur who makes opportunities for others.

[1971SuperLead]

@freedomatwhatprice Research Sun Studio in Memphis. You could build a studio like that for a very low investment. Some of the greatest music ever recorded came from tiny studios like this. Let the big boys keep spewing there megabuck souless crap and get real. Get organic. Motley Crue's first album is their best album. The Beatles recording were done on 4 tracks. Listen to the Platters. You don't need much money. You need talent, imagination, passion, heart and an open mind. Have you got those?

[dubified89]

@freedomatwhatprice You have to consider though that those people grew up in difficult conditions, and instead of wasting the money they made in the black market they invested into something legitimate which is the smart thing to do. Other ethnic groups did this in the past in America, the Kennedys got their start from bootlegging liquor during prohibition.

[hugusmo]

love the way he says a thousand dollars

[RastaRhalik]

come check out this video that i did for the reggae artist Morgan I.

[RainKingRecording]

I love seeing this stuff in youtube. Makes me feel like somebody know the value of an engineer.

[freedomatwhatprice]

@RainKingRecording

I think we all know the value of an Engineer. I would love to become an engineer, I don't know how. I've heard that there are schools offering this program, but people go into deep debt paying for these specialty schools. Then drug dealers come along and open their own studio, because they have the money and they get even richer. Meanwhile the average Joe that dreams of going into this field never gets the chance.

[proent]

now we can make a hit song with just a mic, pc, and some software and proplr might think it was made in million dollar studio

[proent]

@proent  people*

[RainKingRecording]

@proent How many hit songs do you know of that were made with a mic a PC and some software?

[proent]

@RainKingRecording hundreds

[RainKingRecording]

@proent Name one. It's a whole lot more complicated then just a computer and software. Mics, Preamps, Conversation, Clocking. You don't need nearly as much but you still need quality gear.

[proent]

@RainKingRecording Mike Posne - Cooler Than Me.. wrote and recorded in his dorm room on a dell laptop.. now hitting the radio all over.

[jorgetokesalot]

@proent dude...it's better to let people believe you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[QUIX4U]

Thus ends... this centuries ...

(& all previous 1's as well)

Lessons - in ....

Multiple Channeled

3D 4D & 5D...

Analogue Surround Sound

(using JUST an infinitely small portion - of the 64.77_Million "analogue" chaanels that are actually "available" - in any TWO raw stereo channels...

Period.

[QUIX4U]

@Jameh101

AND... as any good (ELECTRICIAN TRAINED & REGISTERED) audio techie will "tell_you" - Microphones ar just very POOR speakers... and SPEAKERS ... no matter how good they are - as speakers - are just very poor microphones...

THUS... I have for 45yrs... "simply USED speakers - to recreate the ORIGINAL POSITIONINGS ... of all those ON_STAGE microphones... placed haphazardly "around & across a room - just as those original "microphones" WERE...

[QUIX4U]

Wahoo >/

So? what really IS.... going to be my toughest ??? "what"?... (in your bio)

[quote] stand out above the compatition, and ultimetly [unquote]

As WTF is this word?

compatition

[Robynasdf123]

To become a recording engineer (from someone who used to be one)

You don't need physics, you don't need math, you don't need anything except one thing. A trust fund. The only way you will ever survive as a recording engineer is if your Mommy left you a trust fund to live from.

There are no jobs for recording engineers. Not one.  Anywhere in the world. Zero. Nil. You cannot become a professional recording engineer anymore, because nobody will hire you, because everyone is broke.

[QUIX4U]

@Robynasdf123

WTF is a trust fund?

Is that the "hopefully" it's going to be ? FUN_? "d" (J) ... when I use my "ex_garbage gear 0- to make realy cool tunes... outa something completely different (yet utterly the same)

?

("cause I wuz just a NO_MONEY ... poor NZ farmers BOY- whose DAD ... did NOT ever listen to MUSIC...period.

He hated it.

(Suddenly - at 93yrs of age-& nearly DEAF - he listenes

as it's the ONLY thing he CAN HEAR ... & it's gotta be - REALY LOUD

[LIGHTRONIX]

@Robynasdf123

Way to post that on all the audio engineering videos on youtube. And I think the reason you didn't get hired was because you had no musical or tech skills and went to a recording school thinking that once you got that piece of paper, you will then get a job.

[Robynasdf123]

Try googling "recording engineer wanted" or "recording engineer & job". That will explain my beef with spending $60K + on a 'qualification' as a recording engineer

[BjerkeRobin]

@Robynasdf123 I'm doing ok so far, and I've only been in the business for under a year. Still got people coming back for more though. I think if you have the drive, the attitude and the willpower to just say "fuck it", stick it to the people who say there is no chance and do what you love you will be able to make things go round.

[Holidayfunk]

Who is this guy ????? anybody know?

[RoyalTutorial]

is this the road to become a dj?

[ianvad]

no, there are dj school

[GOAV81]

Can I ask why at my local university the Audio Engineering course requires classes in physics and trigonometry? I think the engineering part of the title is just a little to general and unnecessary, do you know what I mean?

[ihatewells]

Sure. The reason you need to know physics is sound is phsysics. As an audio engineers you need to know how to manipulate sound waves. there is a lot to know. Live sound requires a lot more physics too. in order to align multiple speakers and provide uniform coverage to the whole venue.

feel free to google anything on sound waves if you would like to know more.

[GOAV81]

I hate to be an, "ass," but I understand completely what you are telling me. I guess I also understand that I am well ahead of, "physics 101." The, "sound wave," aspect of my, "pyisics question," is just irelivant to me at this point! I see sound waves visually. I went through puberty at age 3, litterlly! I apriciate your time and influance, truelly! I guess my question requires more substance here. How can I get around the remedial requirements, at something I love, at top pay?

[guitarfreak2105]

WTF does your dumb ass going through puberty at age 3 have to do with what the last guy said? Finding your moms hair on your nutsack cuz she was sucking your dick doesn't count as a pube dude. Go be an ass hole to your mom. She is the one that fucked you up.

[GOAV81]

It was a bad example. Should of known you wouldn't get it. My poin't was that I'm a freak of nature, by known standards, and ultimately I ended up with an offset of about 10 years between my mind and my acctual age. I was a horney fucker and was bustin my own nuts at age 3. Mentally I was an adult at roughly the age of 10 now I'm 28, tired and too, "young," for retirement. My ultimate point was that I've already learned 95% of it but everyone wants a fucking degree. It's all fucked up like you.

[PhyscoRecords]

lol show off i bet he moved his grammy there so we see it

[haynesmachine]

My advise would be to choose a different career path, I've tried everything for the last decade to break into this business and I can tell you that its reserved for the extreamly 'lucky' few, it will only make you depressed, as will trying to ever afford pro audio gear for a decent home studio.

[punksnotddeadd]

Sounds like somebody doesn't like competition

[IPRAudioSchool]

Genuine and honest advice. Also, insightful thoughts regarding balance, or lack thereof!

[Rhetorical20]

Do different recording studios do it very much different from others? For example I have seen where they get the lead singer to sing the same song a bunch of times and then they keep the parts that sounded the best. But in addition to that do the also do a lot of voice editing? Or not?

[GOAV81]

The vocals is just one of many tracks recorded and rerecorded. They also record the guitars, drums, bass, keys, and anything else seperatly. Everything is recorded solely on seperate, "tracks." Then the editors come into play. They take everything and cut and mix what sounds best together and frankenstien the finished product together then it goes to mastering. This is why some great bands sound like shit when they play live. Every studio and editor can make a different product and sound.

[urameducation]

Just put this on our blog. Music school is an option worth checking out. Check out free lesson clips and more about our 'Real Application Training' DVD

[xJohnxN]

wats EQ?

[emkplayboy6]

lol Equilizer!

[shelbyfrigginkatz]

this was a really useful video. i'm in high school and i have a home studio set up and i have taught myself how to write and record music quite well and I plan on going to college to further my knowledge in the subject. i'll definitely keep everyhing you said in mind

[PaisaMaldito]

i love music ?? what this guys exacly do ?? there is a recording school near from my town.

[sickxboyx]

The Majority of Audio sound men do not have college degree's some never even went to college, they just did it.

[vineyPRD]

i think everytin is as important as the ova in the right blend n use of it lik addin an EQ then  Compressor u may need to go bak to the other to tweek it. anuva gd fing to do is just do it record as many fings as u can n learn on the way

[LineSixDude]

there are so many people who wants to record songs,.. two clusters of area? I think there are 20 of it :b

[Davysprocket213]

Wow! That was a great discussion. I really want to learn how to record. I have a nice DP studio, but I can't afford a private music/technical school (like Digital Expressions in Emeryville CA). I've been surveying books and DVDs that are available. Any advice?

[deezgeez]

Yeah, I was thinking about going to that same school, but $75,000 for a b.d. is to steep for me.

[JamieCunningham]

not really a 'how to' but good

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[DeadBabyJesus]

EQ EQ EQ EQ EQ... So very important! I cannot believe he didn't mention it.

[tylersherrill7]

EQ isn't so important if your mic placement is good

[DeadBabyJesus]

Mic placement is important, but EQ is still very important.

[gearedtowardssalad]

Mic placement is key. Only use the EQ if you absolutely have to. Messing with the EQ can bring about phase problems.

[DeadBabyJesus]

Absolutely wrong.

[gearedtowardssalad]

In analog consoles, it is completely true. In digital, it is present but not to a point where it matters. Any turn of an EQ knob changes the phase. Say you're lazy and you don't want to adjust the mic placement and you start cranking EQ knobs, you're going to have a phase shift.

[gearedtowardssalad]

Cool videos in your favorites, as well.

[iheartsedric]

No, it's absolutely correct....

EQ causes phase shifting... Especially in midrange frequencies in the heart of your sound...

[afalope]

arogant twat with his grammy in shot

[flashback999]

He's so right on the money. Bruce Swedien's recordings are incredibly transparent considering their age and the level of both analog & digital sounds used.

[GinuwineMJ]

More people need to give Michael Jackson his props, he hears things that no one can hear or pay attention to. Bruce Swedien brings it all out beautifully.

[flashback999]

oh man totally agreed. Bruce Swedien has synesthesia.

[RainKingRecording]

@GinuwineMJ Swedien is the e best of the best of the best.

[SEAL07]

I have an interest in music so I was wondering what all the duties of an Audio Engineer consist of?

[hobogun]

did anyone respond do this question you asked? i was wondering the same thing

[Daracon75]

I studied audio engineering at an academy. There's lots of duties.. whether it's mixing, setting up equipment, talking to artists, or whatever. But if you want to record at home, it's relatively easy. Just get an AD converter interface, microphones, keyboard, guitar, Audio Editing software, MIDI software and you can make music right away :)

[RockStarKimiko88]

Do you need to know any musical experience to get in? eg playing the piano/guitar

cos i only know a lil!

BUT i absolutely love music and was thinking doing a music technology course...

do you think its a good idea ot take the course?

[Daracon75]

Having musical experience does help quite a lot. It's not a necessity but it helps. About 1/3 of the guys in my class played instruments.

Doing a course can be expensive. Depends on what avenue you want to get into when you've finished s well - 1 year of studying for the basic recording of artists as opposed to 3 years (Masters Degree) performing acoustic treatment on large buildings.