If you're an F1 fan, you already know the amount of engineering being put into these cars. Moto GP is exciting but no where close to F1 when it comes to engineering and technology. Research and developments done by F1 engineers are often sold to aircraft manufacturers like Boeing and Lockheed in order to get findings for their teams. Do not compare F1 to Bugatties and bikes, it just doesn't make sense.
BTW, you did not say: "Top Gear's review as James interview the Veyron SuperSport ,for the old Veyron, type 'Bugatti Veyron vs Mclaren F1 ---- the real Test'"
@XXdriver2000XX Same applies to an F1 car, No traction control = Bike faster off the line, F1 simply cant drop all that power. If you are talking about an out and out drag, The bike will see off the F1 for a bit but once the F1 gets traction...bye bye.
No-one seems to acknowledge that the race was very close. Considering one guy was driving the most exotic car known to man costing millions and the other was basically on a £9,000 production machine I think the bike went very well. Try racing Rossi's YZR-M1 against a £9,000 production car and see how close that is !
It was a YZR-M1 with Rossi on it and it finish 0.2 behind the F1. The YZR-M1 would cost about a million dollars or more(I'm seeing up to 3.5 million). This race is perfectly fair.
Does no-one else find it ridiculous that there are people claiming superiority of 2 wheels over 4 when they seem to neglect the fact there's a significant weight difference? If you can build a bike that heavy with that much aerodynamic drag to move that fast, great, but until then, don't be so ignorant, please. I can appreciate a great bike when I see one, there's many fantastic examples available from factory, but the fact a 2 ton Veyron can out-perform a bike is a fact you just have to accept.
@zeddyorg They're driving in a straight line, are they not? Then I would be discussing straight line performance. The fact they can make a car competitive in acceleration with a bike at yet still be completely comfortable as a daily vehicle isn't exactly a simple feat.
Also, cut out the keyboard warrior crap, starting your reply with an insult simply shows you're just another sheep in the herd of mindless Youtube users.
@mode06 Thats an F1 car not a veyron??? That F1 car will pretty much beat anything on wheels including the veyron! But there are one or two bikes out there that can out accelerate the veyron off the line! Granted not in top speed or round a track! The bikes Achilles heal is the dreaded corner! But until the day comes that I can afford a veyron I am gonna stick with my bike for the fun! Drive my car for everything ells!...
@1981rocketman1981 the veyron would beat the F1 but would need a long strip to catch up because the veyron's acceleration sucks. It's about 30 mph faster and over 3 times heavier. It's supposed to be a luxery car...
@Dmafia100 the highest speed it ever reached was 248.83058 mph and has an average top speed of 246.908mph. It is the fastest of the F1s in speed but can't keep up in a real race around a track. Bugatti still has a higher top speed. Bugatti reaches 252.89808 max.
@1981rocketman1981 the ssc ultimate aero probably could beat the F1. Much higher speeds (256 record new car estmated about 272) and still does 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. That is probably the only car that would ever beat an F1(currently).
@mode06 it is you that is 'neglecting the facts' if you are going to talk about the weight difference (a bikes advantage) then ignore all the bikes disadvantages.
a F1 car is on average 1.5 seconds faster in the quarter mile then a stock street legal production liter bike. but a F1 car vs. a moto gp bike is much much closer
cool vid.again it shows u need at least..what 2,3,4 million to beat a 10 grand bike...mayb the veyron puts up a REAL good fight but its still a £1million car!! MAN i love 2 wheels
Can i have the keys to both..aha imagine pickin up your girl in a F1 car lol or ridin her around on a Moto Gp bike ..atleast she can say it was a moment she will never forget lol
@bangomargit Dude, veyron may have a higher top speed than a bike but it can not accelerate faster.. in a drag race the veyron hasn't got time to reach top speed.. it would be iced :)
A Hayabusa has a 0-60 time of ~2.6 seconds, 0-100 ~5.3 Top speed 188.
Veyron has 0-62 of 2.5 seconds, 0-100 in 5.5 seconds, and at 16.7 seconds the bike will hit it's redline in final gear and the Veyron will take the tied drag and blow it out of the water.
@neills uh, put a turbo in the busa for much better numbers, which is only 3 grand more (16k) as apposed to 1million dollar car.
A turbo busa will get at least 180+ mph in a quarter mile, speaking of which a rider was able to get 210mph in 7.1 seconds, the Veyron takes ~20 secs. the highest record speed on a busa is 272.34 MPH, which is higher than the top potential speed of a Veryron. Sorry, but the veyron is a poorly balanced car, you are just another person fooled by its top speed numbers
Poorly balanced? did you test this? fool by its top speed? what does that even mean ? the Veyron is perfectly stable at 268mph. You can't compare highly modded bike to stock car. Just letting you the Veyron engine was detuned from 3000hp for safety reasons.
@Dmafia100 poorly balanced as a race or drag car (people keep talking about OH THIS CAR WILL SMOKE ANYTHING!) top speed is fine but compared to its acceleration is where it is poorly balanced, not unstable
A track car is not 'balanced' for drag racing or drag car is not 'balanced' for track racing.
Right now Bugatti has the fastest car in the world, 0-100mph comes in 4.5 seconds, thats the 0-62 time for a lot of cars. And is it also faster than the Gumpert Apollo around TG test track, which is a perfectly balance race car. Since its the fastest, it will smoke any production vehicle. I'm not sure where you get that idea from but it isn't true
@Dmafia100 the quarter mile is average, and it takes nearly 20 seconds for it to get up to the speed that a busa turbo can achieve in a 7-8 second quarter mile. i NEVER said it was a slow car, i was replying to (not you) a comment saying a busa stands no chance against it. saying any supersport car is slow would be foolish... saying it is slower than _______ or not as fast as _________ is fact
"busa turbo can achieve in a 7-8 second quarter mile"
"saying it is slower than _______ or not as fast as _________ is fact"
Well no shit, I could say a Top fuel dragster will beat a Turbo Busa but why not ? Apples and oranges. Your comparing a purpose built race machine against a stock vehicle, that is the problem with your comparison.
@Dmafia100 1million dollars does not quite cut it as stock, it has been professionally tuned and engineered to an extreme degree! i compared the two because someone was saying a busa was no match, now will you PLEASE shut it?? lol
@Dmafia100 The Y2K Bike is considered a "production motorcycle" by the Guiness Book of World Records and does 0-60 in 1.5 s. and 0-200 in less than 15 s. Sssmoked.
@Dmafia100 Top speed, yes. ZX-14 has the same 0-60 time and Busa will out accelerate the Veryon in the quarter mile and its electronically limited speed....so no Veryon doesn't smoke every production vehicle.
@Dmafia100 Not sure where you get your information. Even a stock 07 Gixxer 1000 will smoke a Veryon in the quarter.
'07 GSX-R1000 1/4 mile: 9.741 s @ 149 mph
'05 Veryon 1/4 mile: 10.2 s @ 143 mph
Check Sportrider magazine and Wikipedia's article on fastest accelerating cars for my quick sources. So I very much doubt the accuracy of your figures.
You did notice I said Veyron "SS" right ? 1200hp with weight reduction. Even the older Veyron you mentioned run 9's, there is a video on Youtube of it doing so, what do you think "SS" is gonna do ? See Top Gear review of the Veyron SS. Can you show me a bike do 0-100mph in less than 4.5 ?
@Dmafia100 I did notice. I also noticed that your source says nothing about it going 0-100 in 4.5 s...I see some forumers who claim that, but then again I see forumers claim their car does the quarter in 2 seconds attached to a rocket engine. One source I found, Wikipedia, says 4.5 , and that is not cited...it does however claim (w/ citation) that the Veryon does the quarter in 10.2 s. In which case many stock bikes run in the mid to up 9s including: ZX-14, Busa, CBR1000rr, ZX-10r, GSX-R1000.
I said watch Top Gear's review as James interview the Veyron SuperSport ,for the old Veyron, type "Bugatti Veyron vs Mclaren F1 ---- the real Test" Wiki isn't the best way to get info, everyone knows that. I don't take my info from forums. I am fully aware of the Y2K, but it isn't a mass production vehicle such as the Veyron or Hayabusa, its funny how they claim 250mph and it never reached it.
@Dmafia100 Mass produced? What joke! Bugatti Veyron has sold 200 cars over four years, then sells for $2 million each, and your comparing that to dime a dozen liter bikes? You are comparing apples and oranges. The Y2K bike is a production motorcycle that owns the Veryon on the streets...and you're simply gripping on to a losing argument.
You don't seem to get what I'm saying, type "Hayabusa #1 Wonder of Motorcycles" the Busa has been around the same time at the Y2K but the Busa has the title, why is that ? are you going to tell the Dodge Tamahawk can do 300mph ? how many Y2Ks are produced a year ? very little. Weren't you comparing them ? don't be a hypocrite. Sighs... Veyron SS=SuperSport, the same thing, losing ? it doesn't take a rocket science to know cars dominate bikes.
What is this about the busa being the #1 wonder of motorcycles? Who said that? My point from the beginning was that the Veryon does not smoke every production vehicle on the road. There are production bikes that are equivalent or better than Veryon 0-60 (ZX-14, Y2K), and there are liter bikes that will beat it 1/4. Your arguing that Y2K shouldn't count because it hasn't produced that many vehicles, but Veryon hasn't produced nearly so many as the Busas you love to compare it to. WTF?
Its a documentary on the Hayabusa, that why I said search it. You're not getting it, I could mention production cars that are built the same way as the Y2K, which much faster than the Veyron, example: Ultima GTR with the G-Force Maxximus Package, 1600hp. I guess I could count the Ultima then ? Wrong, 300 standard Veyrons, plus Grand sport, Centenaire, Pur Sang, Sang Noir and the SuperSport.
Not quite. When you have a third party (Maximus Technologies) suping up a stock car it kind of ceases to be stock. Even if you do want to consider it stock, it still runs 60 slower than the Y2K (2.1). As for all your different "versions" of the Veryon: (1) You still can't change the fact that Y2K is still considered production; (2) None of those others match the Supersport (which is the only that competes w/ bikes), so they might as well be different cars. P.S. docum. is years old.
So what ? Benz once had the title of fastest four door with the help of Brabus, what about the SLR Mclaren ? etc, you can buy the Maxximus the with 1600hp. The 1.5 to 60 was claim in an Article that has no source to back it up, not even the Y2K website claim that or Wiki. I never said the Y2K is not production, the SuperSport is not the only car. And sure it out accelerate the Veyron, but what else bikes got ? nothing.
To follow up on the documentary...who cares? It's one groups dated opinion on the busa...not hard fact. Y2K is now considered production and the ZX-14 is now faster. Based on acceleration I've given you sources that show that multiple production liter bikes are as fast or faster than any production car. The truly funny thing is your blind support for production cars, when you probably will never own anything like a Veryon, but I can drive away with a ZX-14 tomorrow if I like.
"when you probably will never own anything like a Veryon, but I can drive away with a ZX-14 tomorrow if I like."
That is such a typical fail argument from a bike, because I'm talking about Pluto does that mean I want to go there ? ZX14 can't even beat a 800hp GT-R and the same GT-R lost to a standard Veyron. You're the one who blind, can't even see that bikes are in the shadow of performance cars.
What's w/ the rationale that the Y2K bike shouldn't count as production--that only the Busas & Ninjas should count because they produce many like the Veryon. Since 2000 17 Y2K bikes have been produced as of '09 to 300 Veyrons over 5 years. That means Y2K has 2.8% the productivity as Veryon but it also means that if only 11,000 ZX-14s were produced then Veyron has less productivity than the bikes you love comparing it to. =) your standard of what is production is very arbitrary.
First you said 17 Y2K produced as of 09 ? and 5.6% difference ?"if" only 11000 ZX-14 ? or is it 5500? Where did you the number of ZX-14s from ? You're confusing yourself. There are more than 300 Veyrons as I mention before. That is such a fail argument.
You're not making any sense at this point. You don't even understand the argument let alone make an intelligible response to it. Again I see a lot of claiming without any sources, and some pretty vague and nonsensical statements. It's actually quite funny, but alas I can only imagine a 12 year old is simply having fun with his friends. Goodbye, Dmafia100, you won't be wasting anymore of my time.
Wow, I'm not the one who is pulling numbers out their ass, every I said I source to back them, see P800 vs ZX-14 and the see P800 vs Veyron from Dragtimesinfo, visit the Y2K website and show me that 1.5 ? you can't because MTT never made such a claim. Many car manufactures partner with another. You're evening changing everything you say. You simply Google everything I said, you fail big time
@Dmafia100 I'm just reading through allll of this utter bullshit you've been posting, I would like a summation of what you are claiming as you seem to change your mind every two seconds. Can you give me some bulletpoints?
@SKStylez You make a great point and I completely agree with you, but come on.. Cars and bikes=Apples and oranges my friend... and to the guy that was arguing with you... yea you obviously dont ride a bike and appreciate its artistry
yh but the bike is almost road legal all it would need is emitions n wing mirror the car would need engine parts taken off emisions wing mirrors and the big long list so basically its a bike vs a rocket on weels check r1 v buggatti now that proves a point or bike v gallardo
Unfair advantage for the car,wet track,a hell of a lot more traction for the car thus much better acceleration,bike has 1 tiny contact patch in the rear,car has 2 bigass contact patches.
So? If the bike won people wouldn't go "omg well it's so light" That's part of the game. If bike racers get to tout how fast they can go to street legal car driver without the car driver mentioning weight, when the racing ones get raped by a F1 car, I don't see why "but it has 2 contacts" should be said.
The bike has acceleration as an advantage... but so does the f1. They'll both probably top out near each other. So, it all basically comes down to handling. The f1 has better braking and, however paradoxical, has better cornering due to that. But give the bike some credit too.
i know, it like you make the simplest observation and someone comes out of no where saying your screen name is gay and that gixxers suck more cock then a hooker on the rag, lol jk
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bikersrule07 says "oh my god the noise...... beutifull"
I don't here any bike revs, instead I hear F1 engine revs and yes you are right the F1 engine does not rev twice as high as a bike but more than a bike..and that is not a GSXR750 also. So don't be stupid now..
Alternatively F1 engines can also rev to 20,000 rpm. If memory serves correct the Cosworth V8 engine for Williams in 2006 went up to atleast 21,000 rpm at one point. As for the actual limit....that I have no idea about, but the speedomet's have shown it up to 23,000 rpm so I guess if there was technical freedom they could go up to 23,000 rpm, albeit, it is very dangerous.
The diffrence between F1 cars and motorbike is millions of pounds...People can actually acheive the break neck speeds of moto gp on a road bike...You have to be loaded to acheive f1 speeds in a car...
Why is every one always so damn shocked when an F1 car beats virtually ANYTHING it races against in a heads up balls out drag ? The power to weight ration ( even torque ) is emense and more times then not even greater then a motorcycles. An F16 is quite literally ( short of a jet car ) the only thing on the planet that can match its acceleration.
its just power to weight. The tq output is defined at a velocity. Such as making 2,000lbs of wheel tq ( yes, a true amount for most vehicles) in a gear where you reach 40mph is must better than one that can produce 2,000lbs of wheel tq in a gear that only reaches 28mph. For example maybe a civic ex vs a camaro. The civic can pull as hard in 1st, as the camaro can in 2nd. That translates to more power. Not tq.You could say it had more wtq @ a higher rpm ( faster speed) but that just means more hp
your crank spins faster than your tire. Then the tq output at the tires goes up equal to the ratio slower. if i make 100crank tq and i have a 16:1 overal 1st gear ratio (1st x's final) then at the wheel in that gear i gave 16 times the amount of tq or 1.6Klbs. I hate to tell ya but anyone bragging about a "wtq" number after a dyno run is 100% mislead. What this means is what kind of crank tq is being outputted after already having driveloss incorporated into the value.its not an actual tq output
jesus tapdancing christ, racing a street sports bike vs a multimillion dollar f1 car?? of course the F1 will win, the amount of R&D invested in those machines are stagering! they have every one but NASA working for them.
creating a car to go faster than a bike = simple, but expensive
creating a car to go faster and be used daily = Difficult, but expensive
Creating a bike to go faster than a car on a daily basis = simple and cheap
Should point out though that I am a car person and would rather be able to drift than speed =D
HELPMEIDUNNOHOWTOUSE 5 months ago
i use youtube just to read people arguing over a simple video
flyingcumshot 5 months ago
@mrpoet212 what are you on about? they are already moving long before the video starts
MattTheOak 6 months ago
17 people got scared of the sound.
homiarcher 6 months ago 4
Haha look at all the youtube experts. They watch a video and all the sudden have mechanical engineering doctors degree and 192 years of experience.
Triple88a 7 months ago
No chance you'd catch me on the bike going that fast in the RAIN---NOPE!
comlax22 8 months ago
f1 always wins
bow7891 9 months ago
bike got raped lol, nice vid xD
No1Richman 10 months ago
oh shit i thought it was really a bike with pedals vs a fucken rocket car
limewireb 10 months ago
@limewireb
you dont have idea about cars right? :D
TheDemonStr 8 months ago
When I saw F1 vs. bike I thought it was a car vs. a bike with pedals
WhoAr3You 10 months ago
prius 1
f1 and bike 0
pierocks301415 11 months ago
@pierocks301415 neither funny nor creative
liud128 7 months ago
@liud128 sorry didnt mean to offend you with my comment?
pierocks301415 6 months ago
If you're an F1 fan, you already know the amount of engineering being put into these cars. Moto GP is exciting but no where close to F1 when it comes to engineering and technology. Research and developments done by F1 engineers are often sold to aircraft manufacturers like Boeing and Lockheed in order to get findings for their teams. Do not compare F1 to Bugatties and bikes, it just doesn't make sense.
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xeder88 1 year ago
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xeder88 1 year ago
Bikes will never be as fast as F1 cars, they dont have the stability. No matter how much power you give a bike it'l never be able to use it all.
XXdriver2000XX 1 year ago
@XXdriver2000XX Same applies to an F1 car, No traction control = Bike faster off the line, F1 simply cant drop all that power. If you are talking about an out and out drag, The bike will see off the F1 for a bit but once the F1 gets traction...bye bye.
Tayuk 1 year ago
it would have been closer if it was a suzuki. dont believe me? go to barbers motorsports park museum in alabama and see for yourself.
hondahoss17 1 year ago
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cbamode 1 year ago
No-one seems to acknowledge that the race was very close. Considering one guy was driving the most exotic car known to man costing millions and the other was basically on a £9,000 production machine I think the bike went very well. Try racing Rossi's YZR-M1 against a £9,000 production car and see how close that is !
pgzzz 1 year ago
@pgzzz
It was a YZR-M1 with Rossi on it and it finish 0.2 behind the F1. The YZR-M1 would cost about a million dollars or more(I'm seeing up to 3.5 million). This race is perfectly fair.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
Straight line or not, F1 would killer the bike even worse if there were corners.
SamsungGX20 1 year ago
tampoco se va mucho la f1
donetsk33 1 year ago
holy motherfucka
jameshet45 1 year ago
Does no-one else find it ridiculous that there are people claiming superiority of 2 wheels over 4 when they seem to neglect the fact there's a significant weight difference? If you can build a bike that heavy with that much aerodynamic drag to move that fast, great, but until then, don't be so ignorant, please. I can appreciate a great bike when I see one, there's many fantastic examples available from factory, but the fact a 2 ton Veyron can out-perform a bike is a fact you just have to accept.
mode06 1 year ago 3
You sir, are clearly an idiot who understands little about physics.
What exactly is your definition of "out-perform" anyway?
zeddyorg 1 year ago
@zeddyorg They're driving in a straight line, are they not? Then I would be discussing straight line performance. The fact they can make a car competitive in acceleration with a bike at yet still be completely comfortable as a daily vehicle isn't exactly a simple feat.
Also, cut out the keyboard warrior crap, starting your reply with an insult simply shows you're just another sheep in the herd of mindless Youtube users.
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zeddyorg 1 year ago
@mode06 Thats an F1 car not a veyron??? That F1 car will pretty much beat anything on wheels including the veyron! But there are one or two bikes out there that can out accelerate the veyron off the line! Granted not in top speed or round a track! The bikes Achilles heal is the dreaded corner! But until the day comes that I can afford a veyron I am gonna stick with my bike for the fun! Drive my car for everything ells!...
1981rocketman1981 1 year ago
@1981rocketman1981 the veyron would beat the F1 but would need a long strip to catch up because the veyron's acceleration sucks. It's about 30 mph faster and over 3 times heavier. It's supposed to be a luxery car...
supercool97 1 year ago
@supercool97 Yes I know that! I was talking off the line! Thats what I put...
1981rocketman1981 1 year ago
@supercool97
Honda F1 did 257MPH, faster than Veyron.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 the highest speed it ever reached was 248.83058 mph and has an average top speed of 246.908mph. It is the fastest of the F1s in speed but can't keep up in a real race around a track. Bugatti still has a higher top speed. Bugatti reaches 252.89808 max.
supercool97 1 year ago
@supercool97
/watch?v=W82DsPkgV-U
Here is the link.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@1981rocketman1981 the ssc ultimate aero probably could beat the F1. Much higher speeds (256 record new car estmated about 272) and still does 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. That is probably the only car that would ever beat an F1(currently).
supercool97 1 year ago
@supercool97 Probably not really! 0-60 in f-1 is around 2.3, and 0-100 is around 3.8! The ssc is rapid of the line no doubt, but not f-1 rapid!....
1981rocketman1981 1 year ago
@mode06 it is you that is 'neglecting the facts' if you are going to talk about the weight difference (a bikes advantage) then ignore all the bikes disadvantages.
MattTheOak 6 months ago
wow f1's sound good
Nickomfacc 1 year ago
a F1 car is on average 1.5 seconds faster in the quarter mile then a stock street legal production liter bike. but a F1 car vs. a moto gp bike is much much closer
deyan125 1 year ago
True performance! Both the car as well as the bike.. but i still love 2 wheels.. all u h8r's tak a hike!
4dbaya 2 years ago 10
What kind of bike was it?
fretsonfire75 2 years ago
@fretsonfire75
I'm not sure because of the quality but it looks like a Yamaha R1 to me.
Certainly not a Hayabusa.
v1nnie0012 2 years ago
cool vid.again it shows u need at least..what 2,3,4 million to beat a 10 grand bike...mayb the veyron puts up a REAL good fight but its still a £1million car!! MAN i love 2 wheels
concretesurfer07 2 years ago
FUCKING YES!!!!!!!!! Finally someone thinks just like I do. everybody talks about how fast this car is and that car. It dont matter Thank you !!!!!
ibanez4482 2 years ago
close fukin race !!!!!!
westsiderivaloslobos 2 years ago
ay no mamen yo tengo una suzuki y corre mas 3 segundos de 0 a 100
cachorrojaja 2 years ago
I would want both........
vidsupercharged1622 2 years ago
Can i have the keys to both..aha imagine pickin up your girl in a F1 car lol or ridin her around on a Moto Gp bike ..atleast she can say it was a moment she will never forget lol
barcode0954 2 years ago
"Hey babe! Like my new F1. Ok lets go to the movies, you can ahh... run behind me seeing as this thing barely has 1 seat."
lucasmcl 2 years ago 2
;) side car my friend lmfao
barcode0954 2 years ago 2
Unless of course your driving the 2 seater F1 car that you can get
StolenMonkey 2 years ago 6
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you suck cock
TypeDoubleR 2 years ago
This is virtually a production bike in the wet vs. the best and the baddest race car for the track that isn't road legal by a long shot.
johnheather1 2 years ago
bikes are fast but cars will always own them.
fc3s1 2 years ago
other way around buddy.
jonesy7744 2 years ago 3
hate to admit.. but true~
ZeroKenshin 2 years ago
are you dumb? no road legal car is faster than a bike!
romadmike1 2 years ago 12
there are some, very few road legal cars
but like i said, very few
have to be tuned right, and against the appropriate bike.
i would like to see a car the could compete with the f4cc after taking off the electronic speed limiter tho
SnipingMoose 2 years ago 2
@romadmike1 ever heard of the Veyron?
bangomargit 1 year ago
@bangomargit Dude, veyron may have a higher top speed than a bike but it can not accelerate faster.. in a drag race the veyron hasn't got time to reach top speed.. it would be iced :)
romadmike1 1 year ago
@romadmike1
A Hayabusa has a 0-60 time of ~2.6 seconds, 0-100 ~5.3 Top speed 188.
Veyron has 0-62 of 2.5 seconds, 0-100 in 5.5 seconds, and at 16.7 seconds the bike will hit it's redline in final gear and the Veyron will take the tied drag and blow it out of the water.
neills 1 year ago
@neills uh, put a turbo in the busa for much better numbers, which is only 3 grand more (16k) as apposed to 1million dollar car.
A turbo busa will get at least 180+ mph in a quarter mile, speaking of which a rider was able to get 210mph in 7.1 seconds, the Veyron takes ~20 secs. the highest record speed on a busa is 272.34 MPH, which is higher than the top potential speed of a Veryron. Sorry, but the veyron is a poorly balanced car, you are just another person fooled by its top speed numbers
SKStylez 1 year ago
@SKStylez The Veyron is an electronically limited mass production vehicle, not someones garage project.
neills 1 year ago
@neills so is a busa turbo. And a 1mil car cannot fit the description of just an ordinary base model, thats professional tuning to ridiculous levels
SKStylez 1 year ago
@SKStylez
Poorly balanced? did you test this? fool by its top speed? what does that even mean ? the Veyron is perfectly stable at 268mph. You can't compare highly modded bike to stock car. Just letting you the Veyron engine was detuned from 3000hp for safety reasons.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100
***just letting you know**
Dmafia100 1 year ago
dude your so stupid wheres the proof noob
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@TheGunsboss
Hey retard, try doing some research before make yourself look more stupid than you already are.
"Top Gear - Bugatti Veyron SuperSport (Parte 1/2) (Legendado) "
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And also watch "Man-Made Bugatti Veyron Super Car 1/4 HD"
I really hate ignorant assholes like you but love making you look stupid.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 poorly balanced as a race or drag car (people keep talking about OH THIS CAR WILL SMOKE ANYTHING!) top speed is fine but compared to its acceleration is where it is poorly balanced, not unstable
SKStylez 1 year ago
@SKStylez
"poorly balanced as a race or drag car"
A track car is not 'balanced' for drag racing or drag car is not 'balanced' for track racing.
Right now Bugatti has the fastest car in the world, 0-100mph comes in 4.5 seconds, thats the 0-62 time for a lot of cars. And is it also faster than the Gumpert Apollo around TG test track, which is a perfectly balance race car. Since its the fastest, it will smoke any production vehicle. I'm not sure where you get that idea from but it isn't true
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 the quarter mile is average, and it takes nearly 20 seconds for it to get up to the speed that a busa turbo can achieve in a 7-8 second quarter mile. i NEVER said it was a slow car, i was replying to (not you) a comment saying a busa stands no chance against it. saying any supersport car is slow would be foolish... saying it is slower than _______ or not as fast as _________ is fact
SKStylez 1 year ago
@SKStylez
"busa turbo can achieve in a 7-8 second quarter mile"
"saying it is slower than _______ or not as fast as _________ is fact"
Well no shit, I could say a Top fuel dragster will beat a Turbo Busa but why not ? Apples and oranges. Your comparing a purpose built race machine against a stock vehicle, that is the problem with your comparison.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 1million dollars does not quite cut it as stock, it has been professionally tuned and engineered to an extreme degree! i compared the two because someone was saying a busa was no match, now will you PLEASE shut it?? lol
SKStylez 1 year ago
@SKStylez
"1million dollars does not quite cut it as stock"
Wrong again!
You post a comment on PUBLIC forum, if it is a retarded it is gonna be addressed!
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 The Y2K Bike is considered a "production motorcycle" by the Guiness Book of World Records and does 0-60 in 1.5 s. and 0-200 in less than 15 s. Sssmoked.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 Top speed, yes. ZX-14 has the same 0-60 time and Busa will out accelerate the Veryon in the quarter mile and its electronically limited speed....so no Veryon doesn't smoke every production vehicle.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
Veyron SS 0-100mph 4.5 seconds
Hayabusa 0-100mph 5.44 seconds
Limiter removed it will do about 200mph alone.
So yes the Veyron does smoke any production vehicle.
Yes, we all know which is cheaper.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 Not sure where you get your information. Even a stock 07 Gixxer 1000 will smoke a Veryon in the quarter.
'07 GSX-R1000 1/4 mile: 9.741 s @ 149 mph
'05 Veryon 1/4 mile: 10.2 s @ 143 mph
Check Sportrider magazine and Wikipedia's article on fastest accelerating cars for my quick sources. So I very much doubt the accuracy of your figures.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
You did notice I said Veyron "SS" right ? 1200hp with weight reduction. Even the older Veyron you mentioned run 9's, there is a video on Youtube of it doing so, what do you think "SS" is gonna do ? See Top Gear review of the Veyron SS. Can you show me a bike do 0-100mph in less than 4.5 ?
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 I did notice. I also noticed that your source says nothing about it going 0-100 in 4.5 s...I see some forumers who claim that, but then again I see forumers claim their car does the quarter in 2 seconds attached to a rocket engine. One source I found, Wikipedia, says 4.5 , and that is not cited...it does however claim (w/ citation) that the Veryon does the quarter in 10.2 s. In which case many stock bikes run in the mid to up 9s including: ZX-14, Busa, CBR1000rr, ZX-10r, GSX-R1000.
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ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
I said watch Top Gear's review as James interview the Veyron SuperSport ,for the old Veyron, type "Bugatti Veyron vs Mclaren F1 ---- the real Test" Wiki isn't the best way to get info, everyone knows that. I don't take my info from forums. I am fully aware of the Y2K, but it isn't a mass production vehicle such as the Veyron or Hayabusa, its funny how they claim 250mph and it never reached it.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 Mass produced? What joke! Bugatti Veyron has sold 200 cars over four years, then sells for $2 million each, and your comparing that to dime a dozen liter bikes? You are comparing apples and oranges. The Y2K bike is a production motorcycle that owns the Veryon on the streets...and you're simply gripping on to a losing argument.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
You don't seem to get what I'm saying, type "Hayabusa #1 Wonder of Motorcycles" the Busa has been around the same time at the Y2K but the Busa has the title, why is that ? are you going to tell the Dodge Tamahawk can do 300mph ? how many Y2Ks are produced a year ? very little. Weren't you comparing them ? don't be a hypocrite. Sighs... Veyron SS=SuperSport, the same thing, losing ? it doesn't take a rocket science to know cars dominate bikes.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100
What is this about the busa being the #1 wonder of motorcycles? Who said that? My point from the beginning was that the Veryon does not smoke every production vehicle on the road. There are production bikes that are equivalent or better than Veryon 0-60 (ZX-14, Y2K), and there are liter bikes that will beat it 1/4. Your arguing that Y2K shouldn't count because it hasn't produced that many vehicles, but Veryon hasn't produced nearly so many as the Busas you love to compare it to. WTF?
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
Its a documentary on the Hayabusa, that why I said search it. You're not getting it, I could mention production cars that are built the same way as the Y2K, which much faster than the Veyron, example: Ultima GTR with the G-Force Maxximus Package, 1600hp. I guess I could count the Ultima then ? Wrong, 300 standard Veyrons, plus Grand sport, Centenaire, Pur Sang, Sang Noir and the SuperSport.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100
Not quite. When you have a third party (Maximus Technologies) suping up a stock car it kind of ceases to be stock. Even if you do want to consider it stock, it still runs 60 slower than the Y2K (2.1). As for all your different "versions" of the Veryon: (1) You still can't change the fact that Y2K is still considered production; (2) None of those others match the Supersport (which is the only that competes w/ bikes), so they might as well be different cars. P.S. docum. is years old.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
So what ? Benz once had the title of fastest four door with the help of Brabus, what about the SLR Mclaren ? etc, you can buy the Maxximus the with 1600hp. The 1.5 to 60 was claim in an Article that has no source to back it up, not even the Y2K website claim that or Wiki. I never said the Y2K is not production, the SuperSport is not the only car. And sure it out accelerate the Veyron, but what else bikes got ? nothing.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100
To follow up on the documentary...who cares? It's one groups dated opinion on the busa...not hard fact. Y2K is now considered production and the ZX-14 is now faster. Based on acceleration I've given you sources that show that multiple production liter bikes are as fast or faster than any production car. The truly funny thing is your blind support for production cars, when you probably will never own anything like a Veryon, but I can drive away with a ZX-14 tomorrow if I like.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
"when you probably will never own anything like a Veryon, but I can drive away with a ZX-14 tomorrow if I like."
That is such a typical fail argument from a bike, because I'm talking about Pluto does that mean I want to go there ? ZX14 can't even beat a 800hp GT-R and the same GT-R lost to a standard Veyron. You're the one who blind, can't even see that bikes are in the shadow of performance cars.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
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ainulindale27 1 year ago
@Dmafia100
What's w/ the rationale that the Y2K bike shouldn't count as production--that only the Busas & Ninjas should count because they produce many like the Veryon. Since 2000 17 Y2K bikes have been produced as of '09 to 300 Veyrons over 5 years. That means Y2K has 2.8% the productivity as Veryon but it also means that if only 11,000 ZX-14s were produced then Veyron has less productivity than the bikes you love comparing it to. =) your standard of what is production is very arbitrary.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
First you said 17 Y2K produced as of 09 ? and 5.6% difference ?"if" only 11000 ZX-14 ? or is it 5500? Where did you the number of ZX-14s from ? You're confusing yourself. There are more than 300 Veyrons as I mention before. That is such a fail argument.
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100
You're not making any sense at this point. You don't even understand the argument let alone make an intelligible response to it. Again I see a lot of claiming without any sources, and some pretty vague and nonsensical statements. It's actually quite funny, but alas I can only imagine a 12 year old is simply having fun with his friends. Goodbye, Dmafia100, you won't be wasting anymore of my time.
ainulindale27 1 year ago
@ainulindale27
Wow, I'm not the one who is pulling numbers out their ass, every I said I source to back them, see P800 vs ZX-14 and the see P800 vs Veyron from Dragtimesinfo, visit the Y2K website and show me that 1.5 ? you can't because MTT never made such a claim. Many car manufactures partner with another. You're evening changing everything you say. You simply Google everything I said, you fail big time
Dmafia100 1 year ago
@Dmafia100 I'm just reading through allll of this utter bullshit you've been posting, I would like a summation of what you are claiming as you seem to change your mind every two seconds. Can you give me some bulletpoints?
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ainulindale27 1 year ago
@SKStylez "Sorry, but the veyron is a poorly balanced car, you are just another person fooled by its top speed numbers"
you just lost all credibility to anything you have ever of will ever say .....moron
krypekeeper 1 year ago
@krypekeeper lol you dont read much do you
SKStylez 1 year ago
@SKStylez You make a great point and I completely agree with you, but come on.. Cars and bikes=Apples and oranges my friend... and to the guy that was arguing with you... yea you obviously dont ride a bike and appreciate its artistry
wiggity08 1 year ago
@romadmike1 you havent seen the ford gt, twin turbo that beats 1000cc busa's?
brenzaboom 1 year ago
@brenzaboom busa is 1300cc plus. put a turbo on that and goodbye ford gt
carsnwomen91 1 year ago
@brenzaboom
1340cc not 1000
allwheeldrive1 1 year ago
@romadmike1 bugatti veyron is ur answer
fenderstratocaster96 1 year ago
@fenderstratocaster96 f1 car is faster
cmon89Jarhead89cmon 1 year ago
@romadmike1 Only on straights, you're meanining. Bike is shit to corner.
Kw12345ff 1 year ago
@Kw12345ff of course bro.. especially against an F1 car
romadmike1 1 year ago
not allays it depends on the race track for exampe cbr fireblade killed the audi R10 11 seconds for a lap on a race track in germany ....
a6km 2 years ago
My personal experience says otherwise...
hinesdeal82291 2 years ago
i think the bike may have won (or very close) if the track was dry
RossiTheDoctorR1 2 years ago
Bloody hell there was not much in it considering f1 cars have traction aids and 2 fat tyres delivering power.
CHOPERUS23 2 years ago
you dont think moto gp bikes have traction aids? they are even more complex than the traction systems on f1 cars! which arnt even there anymore!
ApocketrocketzA 2 years ago
i love f1 cars ;o) they always win
Sevket0 2 years ago
yh but the bike is almost road legal all it would need is emitions n wing mirror the car would need engine parts taken off emisions wing mirrors and the big long list so basically its a bike vs a rocket on weels check r1 v buggatti now that proves a point or bike v gallardo
jackojeff 2 years ago
umm, the grandstand is on fire
lancelo96 2 years ago
Unfair advantage for the car,wet track,a hell of a lot more traction for the car thus much better acceleration,bike has 1 tiny contact patch in the rear,car has 2 bigass contact patches.
bru5520 2 years ago
So? If the bike won people wouldn't go "omg well it's so light" That's part of the game. If bike racers get to tout how fast they can go to street legal car driver without the car driver mentioning weight, when the racing ones get raped by a F1 car, I don't see why "but it has 2 contacts" should be said.
powerage112 2 years ago 2
was the track wet, or was the F1 car so rich it was spewing fuel?
kenfo0 2 years ago
the track was wet. unless the bike spits fuel form the bottom of its tyre...
ApocketrocketzA 2 years ago
yeah fuji speedway i love this circut!
GranTurismoTUBE 2 years ago
was that on a wet track? looked like they were both kicking up water.
tripletrash 2 years ago
well, considering everyone was wearing jackets, i think the track was wet, but im still not sure (not sarcasm by the way)
idunno130 2 years ago
the bike's acceleration will be a bit faster, but the F1 car is faster with going around the corner
Sjoerd675 2 years ago
the car is mutch faster iven in the acceleration.
himon08 2 years ago
The bike has acceleration as an advantage... but so does the f1. They'll both probably top out near each other. So, it all basically comes down to handling. The f1 has better braking and, however paradoxical, has better cornering due to that. But give the bike some credit too.
Snipza 2 years ago 3
i would say this shows a responsible comparison. the f1 car is just a hair faster. but they are both incredible
flyingfree98 2 years ago
i luv all the trash talk on youtube...haha
07gixxer02 2 years ago 4
SOMETIMES I GET BONERS :]
justcharlie21 2 years ago 18
especially when i see that picture of miley cyrus poll dancing
flyingfree98 2 years ago 3
oh yeah 8===>
justcharlie21 2 years ago
i know, it like you make the simplest observation and someone comes out of no where saying your screen name is gay and that gixxers suck more cock then a hooker on the rag, lol jk
flyingfree98 2 years ago
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nt04159 2 years ago
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Rossi is exceptionally more skilled and talented than any F1 driver. Moto gp input by the rider is something like 60/40 . F1 in comparison 20/80
eldictator1 2 years ago
LOL give to rossi a 2009 f1 without nothing to control the car..
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 2 years ago
give massa a 2009 YZR M1 and give rossi the 2009 f1 and lets see who wins :)
andreabosco12345 2 years ago 19
wow are u a fucking dickhead??? this is f1 vs bike.. nt bike vs bike. wow... are u fucking adopted. dumb piece of low life shit.
1c3yease 2 years ago
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wow does your mum suck dick as a hobby? wow is ur dad a slave and gets paid to get fucked in the ass? wow do I have to come there and smash all of your teeth into your brain son of a bitch?
andreabosco12345 2 years ago
@andreabosco12345 massa
shotcalla2 1 year ago
oh my god the noise...... beutifull
bikersrule07 3 years ago 8
agreed
blake1405 2 years ago
I would buy a bike just for high revs it can produce.
simonmobile1 2 years ago
I would buy the F1 car because it revs 2 times higher than the bike do...
D3ffe 2 years ago
2009 F1 has redline at 18000rpm
2009 GSXR750 has redline at 15000
mrchief268 2 years ago 2
bikersrule07 says "oh my god the noise...... beutifull"
I don't here any bike revs, instead I hear F1 engine revs and yes you are right the F1 engine does not rev twice as high as a bike but more than a bike..and that is not a GSXR750 also. So don't be stupid now..
D3ffe 2 years ago 3
why make an argumentative comment?
Honda CBR250RR bikes can rev up to 20,000rpm.
So, there goes your theory.
haddonfullback 2 years ago
Alternatively F1 engines can also rev to 20,000 rpm. If memory serves correct the Cosworth V8 engine for Williams in 2006 went up to atleast 21,000 rpm at one point. As for the actual limit....that I have no idea about, but the speedomet's have shown it up to 23,000 rpm so I guess if there was technical freedom they could go up to 23,000 rpm, albeit, it is very dangerous.
Castrol12 2 years ago 3
Correct, although now adays there are limits and 2009 cars are limited to 18,000. V-10s back a few years could go to 22,000 ;)
channelz3r0 2 years ago 2
where can i find one??
TIGERSDFW 2 years ago
in a F1, try a ferrari.
southnyourmind 2 years ago
i'd buy a computer cause it can produce both of those noises
GreatSaradomin 2 years ago 6
And you need to wake up to the real life, go and exercise fat boy =)
D3ffe 2 years ago 8
lmao
robinmitra1 2 years ago
lolZ all about da revs...
TriangleKushions 2 years ago
plus why the fuck would you get a f1... they arent even street legal
IchGlockna 2 years ago 8
racing in the rain? lol
1q3er5 3 years ago
that fuji speedway?
wstrnsk8r 3 years ago
The diffrence between F1 cars and motorbike is millions of pounds...People can actually acheive the break neck speeds of moto gp on a road bike...You have to be loaded to acheive f1 speeds in a car...
jishg 3 years ago 13
Why is every one always so damn shocked when an F1 car beats virtually ANYTHING it races against in a heads up balls out drag ? The power to weight ration ( even torque ) is emense and more times then not even greater then a motorcycles. An F16 is quite literally ( short of a jet car ) the only thing on the planet that can match its acceleration.
IownAPieceOfShitFord 3 years ago
its just power to weight. The tq output is defined at a velocity. Such as making 2,000lbs of wheel tq ( yes, a true amount for most vehicles) in a gear where you reach 40mph is must better than one that can produce 2,000lbs of wheel tq in a gear that only reaches 28mph. For example maybe a civic ex vs a camaro. The civic can pull as hard in 1st, as the camaro can in 2nd. That translates to more power. Not tq.You could say it had more wtq @ a higher rpm ( faster speed) but that just means more hp
logic2reason 3 years ago
your crank spins faster than your tire. Then the tq output at the tires goes up equal to the ratio slower. if i make 100crank tq and i have a 16:1 overal 1st gear ratio (1st x's final) then at the wheel in that gear i gave 16 times the amount of tq or 1.6Klbs. I hate to tell ya but anyone bragging about a "wtq" number after a dyno run is 100% mislead. What this means is what kind of crank tq is being outputted after already having driveloss incorporated into the value.its not an actual tq output
logic2reason 3 years ago
jesus tapdancing christ, racing a street sports bike vs a multimillion dollar f1 car?? of course the F1 will win, the amount of R&D invested in those machines are stagering! they have every one but NASA working for them.
dacptn 3 years ago
Actually they do have NASA working for them.
Who do you think designed the wings? NASA engineers ;-)
IownAPieceOfShitFord 3 years ago
i thought it was their own aerodianamicists. NASA are busy building rockets