say what you will about this rifle because it’s not a well known name rifle, but any manufacture that's rifle will run this test and still function is a bad ass rifle, never mind the name. I've owned a GSE AR15 for about 3 / or 4yrs now and I've only had a few jams, that's it
technically not a "AR-15" unless it is modified because that is full-auto, and a AR15 is a semi-auto version of M4/M16 for the everyday normal guy. If that is over a 16" barrel then it is a M16 and under 16" barrel it is an M4 or a "AR-15 pistol" which a permit is needed to have one.
@raiden6383 and @beargrizzly123 obviously you dont know what your talking about, you can make ar15 fully auto, what do you mean by action?? the sear? that has noting to do with jaming, the auto part is in the lower part... where the trigger is. that definetly looks like a 16" barrel to me
@MrEroupe If you watch the first video, the guy clearly states it's an M4. And yes I agree with you, you can make an AR-15 fully automatic, but this is an M4. Although it's a pointless argument because really "AR-15" was the original designation of Armalite's 5.56 rifle, which I believe was select fire as well.
@MrEroupe The thing with the 16" barrel argument, is the some people will include the flash hider as part of the barrel lengh, but technically it's not part of the barrel. So someone could say that they have an AR-15 from Sabre Defense, lets say, and it has a 16" barrel, when really it has a 14.5" barrel with the A2 extended flash hider, adding about 1.5" (If I'm correct)
@MrEroupe Honestly, it doesn't really matter what you call it. Same rifle really, just refered to as different things based on barrel lengh and modes of fire.
That was only 1099 rounds. He dropped the one that was a failure. That one bullet difference could be the bullet that saves someones life, or blows up the gun, but I kinda doubt it the latter of the two. Makes me wanna do a 1000 round test on an old WASR-10 AK-47 I have. Anybody want to offer up the ammo? lol
Did You notice the strange attachment next to a gas block/front sight?
This is proper M4/AR15/M16/w/e with short-stroke gas piston system.
I still like DI for slightly less recoil, but I'd to have my magazine lips in-tact for few more months (DI hot gases deform the lips and feeds a lot of debris into a firing chamber). :[)
At 4:10 you cut the scene. How do we know it is not because it malfunctioned and you needed to clean it? Not that that AR did not go through hell, but it kinda invalidates the claim of an 1100 round torture test.
nice when i was in the princess patricias light infantry i fired off close to 5000 rounds in the course of a day and the rifle was fine my greatest fear was a round cooking off in the chamber or for it to cook off during a jam. The rifle gets hot thats about all. if you where to use a saw or in canada we call them a C9 then ya u wouldnt be able to do that the barrel would turn white hot and bend.
BIG DEAL..... when I was in the army, I used both an FN C1 and FN C6 the c1 in comparable to your ar15... went through 1000 rounds on about 3-4 min. This rifle is a fully automatic rifle should have no problems with 11000 rounds in 15min.ITS RATED AT 800 round per min of course the thats not too healthy to the rifle, but 150-200 rounds per min should be no problem.
The problem isn't that it can't, more it's the grime involved.
The tolerances on the action are much tighter on the AR than on the FN FAL(c1) and the system used to cycle the weapon dumps crap back into the action. That seems bad at first glance the but system eliminated the piston. The piston adds weight and lowers accuracy. So it becomes a trade off:
Anything more reliable?..How bout an AK-47. Throw em in the mud, drop em in dirt, submerge them in water, take em out, and they'll still fire..gotta love AKs.
@rmaslakow actually I beleive "AR-15" refers to the civilian family (Semi Auto only) of the M-16/M4 military family. So i would say he is alot closer than you were. Dont be a douche cuz no one likes you. M4 = Semi, 3 round burst. M4A1=Semi, Full Auto.
@K0ralfang I apologize a head of time. I feel nit picky. M4 and m4a1 are both semi and full, m16 and m16a1 semi and full, m16a2 a3 a4 and a5 are semi and 3 round burst.
AR-10 was the designation given to the original rifle developed by Stoner, and that was semi and full.
It's totally appropriate to call an automatic ar-15 an ar-15 since the military designation is simply a military designation. Just like the Beretta 92f is called by the military the m9.
@OspreyKnight No they are not both full and semi. Quote "The M4A1 carbine is a fully-automatic variant of the basic M4 carbine intended for special operations use. The M4A1 has a "S-1-F" (safe/semi-automatic/fully automatic) trigger group, while the M4 has a "S-1-3" (safe/semi-automatic/3-round burst) trigger group" do research "oh wise knight." lol Yes you can call something by the wrong name. That however does not change the objects name or its functions. Ar -10 was also .308 big changes. thx
@RicePattyFatty4 the m4a1 is a 5.56mm gas operated semi-automatic and continuous burst shoulder fired weapon. The m4a2 is a variant of the Sherman tank than ran on diesel. The m4a3 was a gasoline powered Sherman that was used by the marines in the pacific.
@rmaslakow Actualy ya your both right BUT! ar 15 is just a group name for all the rifles there is specific names like the one he is firing is an m4a1 carbine with a1 barrel cut out to mount an m203 40 mm grenade launcher
@D41ryQueen In MW2 The M16 and M4 have completely different Damage and calibre yet they both fire the same ammo and use the same platform that game in reality is a load of bullshit.
@blondbassist except having different barrel lengths changes the effectiveness of the round. Don't know anything about mw2 but an m4 will cause less damage and fly a shorter distance because the round is moving slower because the round is made to burn in a 20 inch barrel, not a 14 inch barrel like the m4. Gas used to push the round is lost in the m4.
@OspreyKnight So what you're saying is the longer the barrel the faster the bullet will exit the barrel because its been pushed for a longer length of time?
@blondbassist The diff is roughly 50 feet per second per inch of extra barrel length. For example a 20" barrel will fire the round 200 feet per second faster than a 16" barrel. There are several other variables that effect that but 50 feet per second per extra inch is a good estimate.
@blondbassist yes. The powder isn't completely burned by the time the round reaches the end of the barrel. Every inch adds velocity to the round. That's why I opted for a 5 inch barrel for my 40 xd. The 40 s&w round is designed for 4 inches, any less than that it becomes less effective, less powerful, less accurate. That said when you're going room to room and then shooting 400m the m4 is a still a great weapon.
@D41ryQueen The AR means its a civilian model, the M means its a military issue. The guns are relatively the same other than the fact one in semi-auto and one is auto/burst. Some features may change, like hand guard, gas tube length, barrel type.
I must have gone through a few thousand rnd's in Iraq with my M16 and only had 2 jams thankfully both happend at the range. If you keep your weapon CLEAN and clean it everyday you will have almost no problems with it. If the time ever came you needed to use it to throw that many rnd's that fast it would work as you asked it to. The AR family isn't as soft as some people think, it's actually a damn good weapon IF you take care of it !
I wonder if the accuracy has changed at all with it, but that is awesome. He would make a fun zombie movie character. ""how many zombies have I killed so far." "920" "920!! should we go for a thousand?"
im kind of confused, AR 15 isnt an semi rifle??, whats the diference betwen a military AR15 and a civilian one? is that a modified AR15? the full auto version of an AR15 wouldnt be an M16?? O.o
AR15 is semi auto, however some AR-15 rifles were converted to full auto before machine guns were banned in 1986. So some people call them a converted AR15. Some people refer to all civilian legal full-auto AR rifles as M16s. They are really the same thing.
did u know u can run over a ak-47 with an acp drop it in muddy water and it will still fire so for the ppl who say the ak and this gun dnt compete they are wrong
They are, however some AR-15 rifles were converted to full auto before machine guns were banned in 1986. So some people call them a converted AR15. Some people refer to all civilian legal full-auto AR rifles as M16s.
@killerjumbotony Actually I believe it to be an M4 or a variant of one. It has a shorter barrel and a collapsable buttstock. M16 is 3-shot burst only unless you put an M4 lower receiver on it.
@AAV47 I understand that. BUT, I do have an AR-15 and do know that it is NOT full auto. There are only a few ways to make an AR-15 full auto such as a lightning link, M16 bolt carrier group, etc. I think this gun may be an M4 or M16 of sorts.
@shadownetava123 because the military uses its rifles alot I MEAN ALOT more than civilians as in they stay in use for extended periods of time and the maintenance isn't the best
@shadownetava123 Pat Rogers (EAG) fired 2000 rounds through an AR15 without cleaning or lube. He fired 30,000 rounds through an AR15 with no cleaning only lube.
@shadownetava123 because they are undisciplined or untrained and dont clean the rifle and ammo source correctly or enough, and the most common cause is slapping the magazine in order to seat it, damaging the feed lips on aluminum and steel mags causing feeding problems. over 80% of m16/ar15 malfunctions are magazine related.
@ftf1987 Look, your lookin' like a dumb ass. I spent 5 years in the Marines and not only did i not have any complaints about my weapon but I also learned that he who talks shit about the military...usually wasn't in it. Sure, complain about POGs, but the Marine Corps Infantry is a highly disciplined finely tuned fighting force. Why say they are not disciplined? and other bullshit? Specify "they" next time.
@oOChaosWolfOo I was also in the Marines, Infantry...you know, the highly disciplined finely tuned fighting force you mentioned. while POGs are a major contribution, many 03s do it too, i had to inform every group of boots i got to insert, seat, tug, and not do the army slap. You do realize that some of our PMIs were former POGs. I was never complaining about my weapon, I own 4 AR rifles, i was saying malfunctions are primarily caused by the user because they are not trained correctly.
instead of attacking me, attack nov284 (claims marine) who says that he, or anyone he knew,had unreliable weapons.he was probably a POG. If you are marine infantry, who has never had any complaints about your weapon (like me), wouldnt you agree that someone claiming the m16 is unreliable is untrained or not disciplined enough to mantain said weapon? And please specify when i said the Marine Infantry isnt disciplined. And they is not just one group, complacency is contagious, you know this.
@ftf1987 Look, my point, through and through, has always been that yes, we should keep our rifles clean, but they should also work when I can't clean them. Like, I dunno, while I'm in the middle of being shot at. The AR/M16 series are fundamentally flawed weapons that are slowing the progress of american arms development. I stand by everything I've ever said about these rifles. If you think you can best me in that discussion, give it a shot....you may become the first.
@nov284 everyflaw of the m16 offsets a flaw on other modern rifes, so whats the answer? some piston op version which will retain the two main causes of m16 malfunctions, same style magazine and the 5.56, ask the british how that worked.. you are fundamentally flawed in that with all of your supposed training you couldnt figure out how to make your weapon work, ive already bested you. you attempt to make your point on a video that puts all your claims to rest.
@ftf1987 This isn't COD, we're not programmers worried about balance, a weapon doesn't necessarily have to have weaknesses as such. The russians claim their latest model AKs are as accurate a rifle, more controllable as a machine gun, and as reliable as the original model. Allowing for the fact that Ivan has never told a lie {snicker}, the fact remains that they have made substantial improvements to the original. We've chromed the bore, added a flat-top receiver, and declared perfection. Yeah...
@nov284 where are you pulling COD/balance from? An m16 with quality polymer mags, chambered in a round with a tapered case such as 5.45x39, would solve over 80-90% of malfunctions. a g3/cetme style fluted chamber could be a benefit. Every idiot is spoonfed the concept that the DGI system is the m16 downfall, but its bullshit. And the russians only need a AK-105 with the rear sight milled into a piccatiny rail so they can add an Aimpoint micro
@ftf1987 Also Magpul seems to have created a magazine that isn't just a disposable we're too cheap to throw away. At least, they always get rave reviews from people that have used them (I'm sorely tempted to buy some...but then I'd own even more crap for a rifle I despise). As for the 5.56, I'm ambivilant. I'd like to see a heavier round (I confess to having a bias towards .30 and .45 caliber weapons) but we've proven you can get the job done with them. They're rarely a source of FTFs though.
@nov284 magpul mags are great, because when all the retards give there mags a "slap" it doesnt slowly bend the feed lips in causing failur to feeds, they will crack...and the user will see it. The argument wasnt for a different size caliber, but a different casing, U.S. has a tendency to use straight cased sporting cartridges when the russians use "heavily" tapered casings to aid in insertion, extraction, and overall reliability
@ftf1987 You know, it's been a long time since I had thought about that, and its an excellent point. I'd like to see us go to a heavier caliber, and, while we're at it, we could go to a better casing design. The COD ref was about m16 flaws offset by other weapons flaws...whatever.
DGI lightens the nose of the gun, eliminates a hardpoint on the barrel, and reduces movement out-of-line with the bore. It contributes to a more accurate rifle, at the cost of increased maintenance/heat retention.
@ftf1987 The rifles biggest problem is a flawed BCG. The amount of drag caused by say, some carbon fouling, is disproportionate to what it should take to overcome said fouling because the bolt to tries to cam and the BCG tries to counter-rotate while stripping fresh rounds off of the magazine. Everything else done to that rifle is polishing the brass on the titanic untill we re-engineer the BCG to stop the bolt from camming (internal to the BCG) until its seated behind the barrel.
@nov284 if over 80% of combat malfunctions are magazine related, how is the BCG the biggest flaw? The bolt carrier group is another give and take, its what happens when you dont rely on rails that can warp or be bent. And the amount of rounds needed to cause said fouling and drag is quit substantial. I have burned through 500rnd packs of dirty wolf in a carbine length gas system with no problems. Is it dirty as fuck, yes...but it didnt quit, and i am very modest with lube compared to most
@ftf1987 Everybody that has ever claimed an M16's tolerances were "too tight" and that's why it has reliability issues actually were adressing the result of that BCG issue I was talking about. How much effect carbon has is debateable, but sand and grit will shut that system down in a heart-beat, and carbon will tend to contaminate your lube and turn it into a tacky, sticky mess.
Many people overlubricate, which causes more problems than too little.
@nov284 oh im by no means saying lube is the answer, some is nice as it makes clean up much easier, but the less the better, and i would only aply before patrols and then remove once back. The dirt and sand comment i dont agree with because if your weapon is in condition 1 with the ejection port cover closed the m16 is very debris proof (even with open for kicks check out "AR vs. AK dirt/dust test" video, set up or not, proves a point).
@ftf1987 Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I'm just always tempted to trim it down to keep in under 500 characters. Sometimes I sound a bit terse, or too matter-of-fact. I've never been a huge fan of the AK...I'm a bit of a nationalist and try to buy American.
I've never had the pleasure of trying to maintain an M16 in the desert, but I'm due to get the experience soon. Maybe experience will change my tune. Fortunately it won't be my main squeeze, and .50 BMG is more my style anyway :-)
@nov284 in the end, i have had nothing but excellent reliability out of every AR i have used, from the FN/Colts in the Marines....to the DPMSs i own now, i wish your experience was the same. I dont know how long ago you were in, but I used an old ass beat up A2 in bootcamp and even that worked fine. You talked about wanting to get pmags, so maybe you have an AR... even if you dont and if your ever in SE MN and have time PM me and we should go shoot.
@ftf1987 I don't rail against these weapons so much because it'll help me, I do it because I feel like our grunts deserve a better platform than one that was biblicaly aweful 40 years ago, and plateaued probably 20 or 30 years ago with only the most egregious shortcomings addressed (though I do appreciate that they put a little retaining stud in there for the extractor spring). At least when they do shoot they're accurate as hell.
I'd like that. I don't need much of an excuse to go shoot!
@nov284 Damn nov lol you're in here railing against the AR's too?? You might've just had bad luck with yours, you know?? Yeah the original M-16's sucked because they were supposed to work great with minimal lube and maintenance, obviously the opposite was true. Things are different these days man. You just need to know your enviro and your weapon. Here in AZ it's dry so the AR likes lotsa lube. Nice seeing you again bud lol.
@oOChaosWolfOo p.s. why did you remove your comment where you told me that "slapping" magazines in wasnt a major cause of malfunctions? Did you try it yourself and realize that the carrier group will bend the feed lips down and in, and eventually cause the rounds to not feed correctly, if at all. lots of magazines are scrap metal thanks to that good ole' army strong slap.
@ftf1987 i never said slapping mags doesnt cause malfunctions, thats a HUGE cause. I deleted a comment because i thought it sounded too hostile. And i'm not talking recruits or POGs dude. After Basic and SOI, a Marine IS in fact the highly trained finely tuned military fighting force i was talking about.
@oOChaosWolfOo "It isn't due to "slapping" our mags you stupid fuck"...thats from the message you sent. I will send you the whole thing if you like. I never specifically said anything regarding the Marines in general until you assumed i did, so that argument is worthless. I said that untrained or undisciplined people are the reason the m16 has bad rep. You never had problems, nor did I, so we must be trained.
i have written the magazine info on most m16 reliability videos because many dont know. Just about every member of the u.s. army i know gives their magazine a slap, and i tell them what they are doing is wrong. I hardly bashed the the U.S. military, you have been in and should know there are a few shitbags. Those few have soured the m16 reputation more than it deserves, Its no conscript ready rifle, its a professional soldiers rifle, and not everyone is proffessional enough to operate it.
@oOChaosWolfOo look up "tales of the gun the ak-47 assault rifle part 4/5", watch at 1:40 on that video and realize thats a U.S. Army firearms instructor who is teaching thousands of soldiers to make their rifles unreliable. Im not bashing the military, but i will scrutinize it when incorrect training is causing death.
@ftf1987 Dude that's a fucking outdated instructor. He is still wearing a Vietnam era US Army helmit. Your probably one of the people that would say our soldiers couldn't handle fully automatic weapons with all their training, because in Nam our soldiers would spray and pray. Do you realize that our soldiers in Vietnam had less training than they did in World War II? You may as well give a civilian a weapon. I never instructed any such things during my time.
#1 stop putting words in my mouth, im sick of defending myself against things you assume i think #2 You are a complete fucking retard, that is a current issue helmet, it simply doesnt have a cloth cover, and in part 5/5 the "outdated instructors" are firing "newly imported" Saiga rifles and shotguns, which means it was most likely filmed after the 2004 lift of the assault rifle ban, so much for vietnam era. Im done argueing, nice talking with you.
@shadownetava123 Depends a lot on several points. For example ammo, what kind of barrel or what kind of bold carrier etc. A several weeks ago i saw an episode of Future weapons on Discovery Channel and they had an bold reciever wich was used for a lot of shots, and it was'nt even hot.
And i believe that the makers of this gun, everyday trying to improve it.
Greetings from the Netherlands ( Sorry if my English is not that good )
@shadownetava123 Most soldiers who complain about reliability also don't clean their weapons or are using crappy magazines(Thank heavens we're getting rid of those)
The problem with the weapons we use is the ammunition just isn't big enough. Otherwise the AR platform is a solid platform. She likes lube though, she's kind of tight.
i know all you guys are AR fans, but i don't like the way he is testing the rifle. i would like to see him do it again. i want him to hold tiger NOT this bursting shit, also i would like to see him to reload as fast as he can. i have seen AKs cach on fire and still keep on going.also no water cool off.
@jaso0603 85% of all U.S. rifles(M16 and M4) are not full auto. They are 3 round burst. Who in the name of God would ever fire 1100 rounds all full auto in a row? It will kill any small rifle. Any barrel of an AK, M16, SIG 550 etc would be ruined if you fired full auto 1100 rounds in say 3-6 minutes. Just smoke the barrel.
Sorry to break it to you, but firearms can fire a lot more than 2K rounds before they break. I have a Glock 19 that I shoot over 2000 rounds a month thru and have done that since I got it in 2008. The gun probably has over close to 55,000 rounds thru it and the only issue was I replaced the barrel about 5,000 rounds back. Im not a hill billy and im not trolling, just giving you the facts so you know.
@2238945gbs Boy you ppl are really stupid about firearms and it scares me that you own some. Wow comparing a Glock to an AR that is truely Funny. And for others Comparing an AK to an AR..very funny. They are totally different platforms. Try this GBS take your glock whatever, to bad you couldn't try it with a G18, but anyway and fire 5000 rounds in 1 day. See how it holds up. K???
Can you tell me where I compared a AR to my Glock? Becasue I did not, I said firearms can fire more than 2K rounds without breaking. BKsMassive said most guns break after firing 2K rounds, which is not true.
You really do not know as much about firearms as you think you do. I suggest you get off the internet, join the USMC and serve for 8 years like I did in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and then become private Executive Security and carry a gun everyday protecting people.
@respectforveterans Which is what I do. I am around firearms and have been since I was born. Please don't get on here and try to act all high and mighty when you really have no idea what you are saying. With your screename being respectforveterans, you are an incredible prick and really have no background on which to try to teach people. Tell me what are your qualifications? Have you served? Do you protect people everyday? Unless you do, which I highly doubt, dont go around trolling.
@2238945gbs I am glad you made it home alive and I do respect you for your service. I don't consider Afghan and Iraq to be Wars. It's more just a messed up POLITICAL situation. The last war that had REAL reasons to go into ended in 1945.
As to your questions, yes I have a C&C permit and protect myself and my children everyday. Sometimes this country seems like a war zone, I DO NOT have any military experience but most of my family has served so I grew up on a base. In short I do apoligize.....
In short I do apoligize. I did not see you were responding to someone else's comment. It sounded as if you were comparing auto fire of a handgun to a long gun (AR-15 in this case). I hope all Gun Owners as you are can be mature, and just move on, I'm so sick of people fighting on here over pointless stuff :)
@BKsMassive if your gun cant take 2000 rounds it sucks LMFAO..
My 22 has over 20,000 rounds through it.. My glock has over 6000 rounds through it. My ar has over 3000 rounds through it, my mosin nagants has over 2000 rounds through them each, my 1911 has over 5000 rounds through it, my ak has over 4000 rounds through it, my 870 has over 2000 rounds through it, If a gun doesn't surpass 10000 rounds before having a part break, i wont buy it.
@BKsMassive ANY gun that breaks within a mere 2,000 rounds isn't worthy of being sold to the public. Infact most manufactures recommend owners of new guns to shoot around 500rounds JUST to break it in. 2,000 rounds is sufficient to test the reliability or a gun, but not even close to enough for a durability test.
@ILRRLM Are you an idiot or just never fired an AR? First off it is Full auto. Full auto is not sold to the public. AR's are meant to be semi-auto. An M-16 is Full or Burst. Second if you would actually READ ANY AR manual it will tell you 30 to 50 rounds a minute at MOST. The break in period is meant to be fired slowly and accurately. This is a test of the Gun's barrel/and bolt strength under CONSTANT FIRE. Please do not ever pick up a firearm again before you take some lessons or training.
@respectforveterans Dan dude, chill out. My comment wasn't referring to nonstop firing as is shown here. It was referring to the number of rounds in general that have been fired through a weapon throughout it's life. FYI, Mr. Know-it-all M16's are sold to the Public via NFA regulations. Now, get off your high horse, quit your bitching and show some respect. If you can't say anything constructive and or positive find somewhere else to spew your spam. Youtube doesn't need more people like that.
@ILRRLM I apoligize ILRRM, I thought you were refering to the movie clip, which is supposed to be the topic here. So when I just glanced at your post and read it, I thought you were referring to the clip. Again sorry.
But I do disagree about Full Auto :P I can think of 8 States that DENY your 2nd amendment right and will not even let FFL's own FA arms. In fact some states seem like they're trying to do away with it totally.
@BKsMassive Your average firearm fires orders of magnitude more than a mere 2k! I put damned near that many rounds through my .308 before I was satisfied that it was sufficiently broke in and zeroed it at 200yds for the first time.
video had too many edit marks so actually longer than 15 min a barrett would have done 1000 rounds in less than 10 min
dsarti1 6 days ago
this is a great rifle, anyone who disagrees reads too much bullshit on the internet.
MrEroupe 1 week ago
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armchair commandos/mall ninjas
whatsinaname181 2 months ago
armchair commandos/mall ninjas
whatsinaname181 2 months ago
say what you will about this rifle because it’s not a well known name rifle, but any manufacture that's rifle will run this test and still function is a bad ass rifle, never mind the name. I've owned a GSE AR15 for about 3 / or 4yrs now and I've only had a few jams, that's it
ArmedCivilian556 4 months ago
i love my ar 15 bushmaster just got it last night 800 bushmaster all the way
zachrome16 4 months ago in playlist only gun
expensive test
GunfightersINC 6 months ago
if one is full auto and the other is semi-auto its not identical lol action is defferent
beargrizzly123 6 months ago
technically not a "AR-15" unless it is modified because that is full-auto, and a AR15 is a semi-auto version of M4/M16 for the everyday normal guy. If that is over a 16" barrel then it is a M16 and under 16" barrel it is an M4 or a "AR-15 pistol" which a permit is needed to have one.
beargrizzly123 6 months ago
@beargrizzly123 Exactly
raiden6383 4 months ago
@raiden6383 and @beargrizzly123 obviously you dont know what your talking about, you can make ar15 fully auto, what do you mean by action?? the sear? that has noting to do with jaming, the auto part is in the lower part... where the trigger is. that definetly looks like a 16" barrel to me
MrEroupe 1 week ago
@MrEroupe If you watch the first video, the guy clearly states it's an M4. And yes I agree with you, you can make an AR-15 fully automatic, but this is an M4. Although it's a pointless argument because really "AR-15" was the original designation of Armalite's 5.56 rifle, which I believe was select fire as well.
raiden6383 1 week ago
@MrEroupe The thing with the 16" barrel argument, is the some people will include the flash hider as part of the barrel lengh, but technically it's not part of the barrel. So someone could say that they have an AR-15 from Sabre Defense, lets say, and it has a 16" barrel, when really it has a 14.5" barrel with the A2 extended flash hider, adding about 1.5" (If I'm correct)
raiden6383 1 week ago
@MrEroupe Honestly, it doesn't really matter what you call it. Same rifle really, just refered to as different things based on barrel lengh and modes of fire.
raiden6383 1 week ago
Anyone who says the M4 is a piece of shit that jams every 3 rounds need to watch this video.
TaZ101SAGA 7 months ago
Grudge match, AK vs the AR :) He's acting like he's doing something. That dude is aggravating as hell.
Voldness 7 months ago in playlist guns
Grudge match, AK vs the AR :) He's acting like he's doing something.
Voldness 7 months ago in playlist guns
need some bigger mags lol
MrDankness009 7 months ago
Bet he had fun cleaning it
darksamuari 8 months ago
when he fires the beta drum mags, that did not sound like 100...
shadownetava123 9 months ago
That was only 1099 rounds. He dropped the one that was a failure. That one bullet difference could be the bullet that saves someones life, or blows up the gun, but I kinda doubt it the latter of the two. Makes me wanna do a 1000 round test on an old WASR-10 AK-47 I have. Anybody want to offer up the ammo? lol
Ruzai 10 months ago
@Ruzai id blame that one the beta mag, not the rifle
labartic 8 months ago
@iviru
Depends on the type of round. I'd guess between maybe 350-400 bucks.
vinrx76 10 months ago
1100 Really? How much money do you think he just spent shoting at nothing?
IVIRUnKN0WN 10 months ago
An ar15 is a suvilian version of an m16 their for its simiauto this is full auto not an ar15
kentuckykid90 10 months ago
@kentuckykid90 You can get parts to make the ar-15 full auto, its an ar15 with a auto sear.
dave0z96 10 months ago
Did You notice the strange attachment next to a gas block/front sight?
This is proper M4/AR15/M16/w/e with short-stroke gas piston system.
I still like DI for slightly less recoil, but I'd to have my magazine lips in-tact for few more months (DI hot gases deform the lips and feeds a lot of debris into a firing chamber). :[)
noobas00 10 months ago
People who think the M4 'jams every other mag' need to watch this video.
TaZ101SAGA 10 months ago 2
I want the time i wasted watching this back. Lame, DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO.
augeight 11 months ago
run it over with your truck c[=
hitmaniko 11 months ago
super
youneslegion 11 months ago
ak's dont need to prove this
tqadir007 11 months ago
Is that a gas impingment AR instead of a blowback?
Luigi110067 11 months ago
@Luigi110067 if it's a traditional Ar-15 it's gas impingement, if its not, it's piston. I've only ever seen a 22 blowback ar.
OspreyKnight 11 months ago
see this is why people who say "aw man the m4/m16s aren't reliable!" are full of shit.
PickofDestiny08 11 months ago
At 4:10 you cut the scene. How do we know it is not because it malfunctioned and you needed to clean it? Not that that AR did not go through hell, but it kinda invalidates the claim of an 1100 round torture test.
Anonymous6291 11 months ago
Heh, this guy's the Tony Little of firearms.
ScarletAvatar 1 year ago
nice when i was in the princess patricias light infantry i fired off close to 5000 rounds in the course of a day and the rifle was fine my greatest fear was a round cooking off in the chamber or for it to cook off during a jam. The rifle gets hot thats about all. if you where to use a saw or in canada we call them a C9 then ya u wouldnt be able to do that the barrel would turn white hot and bend.
zimmerman898 1 year ago
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the ak-47 can EASILY DO THAT
RicePattyFatty4 1 year ago
AND YOUR POINT IS? IF YOU HAVE EXTRA AMMO SEND IT MY WAY DAMN
karmadog7777 1 year ago
I would hate to have to clean it after that lol
grodspc 1 year ago
alot of money used to show something less than spectacular
peppy6078 1 year ago
BIG DEAL..... when I was in the army, I used both an FN C1 and FN C6 the c1 in comparable to your ar15... went through 1000 rounds on about 3-4 min. This rifle is a fully automatic rifle should have no problems with 11000 rounds in 15min.ITS RATED AT 800 round per min of course the thats not too healthy to the rifle, but 150-200 rounds per min should be no problem.
gregcortez1970 1 year ago 2
@gregcortez1970 CANADIANS! @"_"@
The problem isn't that it can't, more it's the grime involved.
The tolerances on the action are much tighter on the AR than on the FN FAL(c1) and the system used to cycle the weapon dumps crap back into the action. That seems bad at first glance the but system eliminated the piston. The piston adds weight and lowers accuracy. So it becomes a trade off:
Clean your weapon or haul a heavy gun.
Note: Canada now uses the c7, a variant of the AR
<3 Canadians
OspreyKnight 1 year ago
the answer is the HK 416
snickerdoodleton 1 year ago
Anything more reliable?..How bout an AK-47. Throw em in the mud, drop em in dirt, submerge them in water, take em out, and they'll still fire..gotta love AKs.
Austinthesheep 1 year ago
@Austinthesheep....you should really watch some old 1960s m16 propoganda where they do everthing you just said.
ftf1987 1 year ago
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wtf thats not an ar15 its an m16 I use it a lot in MW2 and it has 3 round burst fucking amazing gun
D41ryQueen 1 year ago
@D41ryQueen your fucking stupid,
thats a AR15,
you need to stop playing mw2 because you dont learn shit from that game. Dont talk until you fire a REAL firearm.
rmaslakow 1 year ago 22
@rmaslakow DUDE WTF he likes MW2 bitch your fuckin stupid bitch
Kill9533224 11 months ago
@rmaslakow actually I beleive "AR-15" refers to the civilian family (Semi Auto only) of the M-16/M4 military family. So i would say he is alot closer than you were. Dont be a douche cuz no one likes you. M4 = Semi, 3 round burst. M4A1=Semi, Full Auto.
K0ralfang 11 months ago
@K0ralfang I apologize a head of time. I feel nit picky. M4 and m4a1 are both semi and full, m16 and m16a1 semi and full, m16a2 a3 a4 and a5 are semi and 3 round burst.
AR-10 was the designation given to the original rifle developed by Stoner, and that was semi and full.
It's totally appropriate to call an automatic ar-15 an ar-15 since the military designation is simply a military designation. Just like the Beretta 92f is called by the military the m9.
OspreyKnight 11 months ago
@OspreyKnight No they are not both full and semi. Quote "The M4A1 carbine is a fully-automatic variant of the basic M4 carbine intended for special operations use. The M4A1 has a "S-1-F" (safe/semi-automatic/fully automatic) trigger group, while the M4 has a "S-1-3" (safe/semi-automatic/3-round burst) trigger group" do research "oh wise knight." lol Yes you can call something by the wrong name. That however does not change the objects name or its functions. Ar -10 was also .308 big changes. thx
K0ralfang 11 months ago
@K0ralfang The ar-10 was also the original Stoner designed and tried to sell to the military until they wanted a smaller round.
If you want you can call the weapon by the Chinese designation. Doesn't change that it's still the rifle Stoner designed, which was automatic.
The m4 you're right. I thought the difference was with the barrel and the carry handle.
OspreyKnight 11 months ago
@OspreyKnight whats the difference in m4a1 m4a2 and m4a3?
RicePattyFatty4 11 months ago
@RicePattyFatty4 the m4a1 is a 5.56mm gas operated semi-automatic and continuous burst shoulder fired weapon. The m4a2 is a variant of the Sherman tank than ran on diesel. The m4a3 was a gasoline powered Sherman that was used by the marines in the pacific.
Did you mean the m16a1-3?
OspreyKnight 9 months ago
@rmaslakow i have an ar 15 haha
RicePattyFatty4 11 months ago
@rmaslakow Actualy ya your both right BUT! ar 15 is just a group name for all the rifles there is specific names like the one he is firing is an m4a1 carbine with a1 barrel cut out to mount an m203 40 mm grenade launcher
spharis2 6 months ago
@D41ryQueen In MW2 The M16 and M4 have completely different Damage and calibre yet they both fire the same ammo and use the same platform that game in reality is a load of bullshit.
blondbassist 1 year ago
@blondbassist except having different barrel lengths changes the effectiveness of the round. Don't know anything about mw2 but an m4 will cause less damage and fly a shorter distance because the round is moving slower because the round is made to burn in a 20 inch barrel, not a 14 inch barrel like the m4. Gas used to push the round is lost in the m4.
OspreyKnight 9 months ago
@OspreyKnight So what you're saying is the longer the barrel the faster the bullet will exit the barrel because its been pushed for a longer length of time?
blondbassist 9 months ago
@blondbassist
Yes that is absolutely correct, the longer the bullet is in the barrel being pushed the faster it will fly and thus the more effective range.
boarderx113 9 months ago
@blondbassist The diff is roughly 50 feet per second per inch of extra barrel length. For example a 20" barrel will fire the round 200 feet per second faster than a 16" barrel. There are several other variables that effect that but 50 feet per second per extra inch is a good estimate.
shananagans5 8 months ago
@blondbassist yes. The powder isn't completely burned by the time the round reaches the end of the barrel. Every inch adds velocity to the round. That's why I opted for a 5 inch barrel for my 40 xd. The 40 s&w round is designed for 4 inches, any less than that it becomes less effective, less powerful, less accurate. That said when you're going room to room and then shooting 400m the m4 is a still a great weapon.
OspreyKnight 7 months ago
@D41ryQueen
bitch stop comparin real life to video games .
guns have been around way longer before xbox live
Hoodhitta 1 year ago
@D41ryQueen The AR means its a civilian model, the M means its a military issue. The guns are relatively the same other than the fact one in semi-auto and one is auto/burst. Some features may change, like hand guard, gas tube length, barrel type.
Sp33dyD3m0n 9 months ago
use the 416 gas tube that i will solve the problem
Shazee083 1 year ago
bad BOY, She's still going? whats the gender of an M4? lol...
nakazatoGTR 1 year ago 16
@nakazatoGTR depends on which way you swing :P
OspreyKnight 7 months ago
Obvisiously one of my favorites for a reason!!!!!!!!!!!
idenity0o0 1 year ago
a nickel or chrome barrel makes alot of difference.ssdewayne I wouldn't have used it in Vietnam 40 yrs ago. HAH
ssdewayne 1 year ago
a nickel or chrome barrel makes alot of difference.ssdewayne
ssdewayne 1 year ago
so, explain to me why you threw the gun in the water?
TheCameronFerazzi 1 year ago
@TheCameronFerazzi its a torture test to see how good the gun is under different circumstances
vidwatcher2468 1 year ago
@TheCameronFerazzi To cool the barrel, without a little cool down the barrel will warp and become unusable.
gunslinger5854 1 year ago
I must have gone through a few thousand rnd's in Iraq with my M16 and only had 2 jams thankfully both happend at the range. If you keep your weapon CLEAN and clean it everyday you will have almost no problems with it. If the time ever came you needed to use it to throw that many rnd's that fast it would work as you asked it to. The AR family isn't as soft as some people think, it's actually a damn good weapon IF you take care of it !
Herbymac0811 1 year ago
5:56
CheytacOps 1 year ago
Math for Rednecks!
drunkdriveing 1 year ago
I wonder if the accuracy has changed at all with it, but that is awesome. He would make a fun zombie movie character. ""how many zombies have I killed so far." "920" "920!! should we go for a thousand?"
AntiHero12109 1 year ago
I like how he takes his good old time between mags LOL!
TrueMarine 1 year ago
i wonder how many outtakes there are to this video....
nov284 1 year ago
it didnt fail cuz it was tryna look good for the camera
TH7596 1 year ago
FOR SALE: Used AR-15, shot very little, like new- good price!
owlfarm7 1 year ago
SEXY.
AsianPls 1 year ago
im kind of confused, AR 15 isnt an semi rifle??, whats the diference betwen a military AR15 and a civilian one? is that a modified AR15? the full auto version of an AR15 wouldnt be an M16?? O.o
Zocratezknows 1 year ago
@Zocratezknows
AR15 is semi auto, however some AR-15 rifles were converted to full auto before machine guns were banned in 1986. So some people call them a converted AR15. Some people refer to all civilian legal full-auto AR rifles as M16s. They are really the same thing.
etucker5007 1 year ago
@etucker5007 thx dude i was very confuse by seeing this guy saying that was an AR15, i though O.O that cant be, cause ar15 are semi :)
Zocratezknows 1 year ago
@Zocratezknows
Ha ha, no problem!
etucker5007 1 year ago
@Zocratezknows { M16 } is the US military designation for the AR-15 rifle.
For example, Aimpoint's red dot sight model CompM2 is used by the US military but is given the designation { M68 Close Combat Optic }
However there is no difference between the CompM2 and the M68.
Colt still makes fully automatic AR-15's for sale to law enforcement w/o the M-16 designation markings.
rllang01 1 year ago
@rllang01 thx for the info :)
Zocratezknows 1 year ago
did u know u can run over a ak-47 with an acp drop it in muddy water and it will still fire so for the ppl who say the ak and this gun dnt compete they are wrong
Eskim850 1 year ago
Does that baby use a DI system or a gas piston system?
hotdogman67 1 year ago
i though ar-15 were only semi auto???
iloveguitar94 1 year ago
@iloveguitar94
They are, however some AR-15 rifles were converted to full auto before machine guns were banned in 1986. So some people call them a converted AR15. Some people refer to all civilian legal full-auto AR rifles as M16s.
etucker5007 1 year ago
why damage a full auto wepon thase bitches are expennsive
GARTV101 1 year ago
@GARTV101 if you knew anything all you would have to do is replace the barrel
TheSickPixel 1 year ago
@GARTV101 i doubt they just did this for fun they probably were getting paid to test this or something
XxReAp3rrxX 1 year ago
@GARTV101
Only the receiver is expensive, the rest of the parts can be replaced at normal prices.
etucker5007 1 year ago
M16 not a ar-15 dumass
killerjumbotony 1 year ago
@killerjumbotony Actually I believe it to be an M4 or a variant of one. It has a shorter barrel and a collapsable buttstock. M16 is 3-shot burst only unless you put an M4 lower receiver on it.
bourneyesterdayi 1 year ago
Great vid! It's an AR-15 full auto? I'm a bit confused.
69sedanman 1 year ago
@69sedanman yup. most assault rifles have full-auto capabilities for close-range engagement.
AAV47 1 year ago
@AAV47 I understand that. BUT, I do have an AR-15 and do know that it is NOT full auto. There are only a few ways to make an AR-15 full auto such as a lightning link, M16 bolt carrier group, etc. I think this gun may be an M4 or M16 of sorts.
69sedanman 1 year ago
@69sedanman ok thx. I'm quite confused about the AR 15 family. It looks harder to tell apart one model from the next than the AK family.
AAV47 1 year ago
what M4 is he using, the colt?
soviet937 1 year ago
Dang...how did it survive?
Soldiers who use this weapon complain about problems after like a couple clips of ammo.
shadownetava123 1 year ago
@shadownetava123
gunsmokeinc 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 because soldiers use it in a much more hostile environment and more rough
ViciousDough 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 because the military uses its rifles alot I MEAN ALOT more than civilians as in they stay in use for extended periods of time and the maintenance isn't the best
vampire847 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 Pat Rogers (EAG) fired 2000 rounds through an AR15 without cleaning or lube. He fired 30,000 rounds through an AR15 with no cleaning only lube.
(tier 1) AR unreliability is a myth.
jebustheone 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 the problem isnt really the weapon. its the cheap ass mags they issue us.
wheelsndealz 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 because they are undisciplined or untrained and dont clean the rifle and ammo source correctly or enough, and the most common cause is slapping the magazine in order to seat it, damaging the feed lips on aluminum and steel mags causing feeding problems. over 80% of m16/ar15 malfunctions are magazine related.
ftf1987 1 year ago
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oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Look, your lookin' like a dumb ass. I spent 5 years in the Marines and not only did i not have any complaints about my weapon but I also learned that he who talks shit about the military...usually wasn't in it. Sure, complain about POGs, but the Marine Corps Infantry is a highly disciplined finely tuned fighting force. Why say they are not disciplined? and other bullshit? Specify "they" next time.
oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
@oOChaosWolfOo I was also in the Marines, Infantry...you know, the highly disciplined finely tuned fighting force you mentioned. while POGs are a major contribution, many 03s do it too, i had to inform every group of boots i got to insert, seat, tug, and not do the army slap. You do realize that some of our PMIs were former POGs. I was never complaining about my weapon, I own 4 AR rifles, i was saying malfunctions are primarily caused by the user because they are not trained correctly.
ftf1987 1 year ago
instead of attacking me, attack nov284 (claims marine) who says that he, or anyone he knew,had unreliable weapons.he was probably a POG. If you are marine infantry, who has never had any complaints about your weapon (like me), wouldnt you agree that someone claiming the m16 is unreliable is untrained or not disciplined enough to mantain said weapon? And please specify when i said the Marine Infantry isnt disciplined. And they is not just one group, complacency is contagious, you know this.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Look, my point, through and through, has always been that yes, we should keep our rifles clean, but they should also work when I can't clean them. Like, I dunno, while I'm in the middle of being shot at. The AR/M16 series are fundamentally flawed weapons that are slowing the progress of american arms development. I stand by everything I've ever said about these rifles. If you think you can best me in that discussion, give it a shot....you may become the first.
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 everyflaw of the m16 offsets a flaw on other modern rifes, so whats the answer? some piston op version which will retain the two main causes of m16 malfunctions, same style magazine and the 5.56, ask the british how that worked.. you are fundamentally flawed in that with all of your supposed training you couldnt figure out how to make your weapon work, ive already bested you. you attempt to make your point on a video that puts all your claims to rest.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 This isn't COD, we're not programmers worried about balance, a weapon doesn't necessarily have to have weaknesses as such. The russians claim their latest model AKs are as accurate a rifle, more controllable as a machine gun, and as reliable as the original model. Allowing for the fact that Ivan has never told a lie {snicker}, the fact remains that they have made substantial improvements to the original. We've chromed the bore, added a flat-top receiver, and declared perfection. Yeah...
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 where are you pulling COD/balance from? An m16 with quality polymer mags, chambered in a round with a tapered case such as 5.45x39, would solve over 80-90% of malfunctions. a g3/cetme style fluted chamber could be a benefit. Every idiot is spoonfed the concept that the DGI system is the m16 downfall, but its bullshit. And the russians only need a AK-105 with the rear sight milled into a piccatiny rail so they can add an Aimpoint micro
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Also Magpul seems to have created a magazine that isn't just a disposable we're too cheap to throw away. At least, they always get rave reviews from people that have used them (I'm sorely tempted to buy some...but then I'd own even more crap for a rifle I despise). As for the 5.56, I'm ambivilant. I'd like to see a heavier round (I confess to having a bias towards .30 and .45 caliber weapons) but we've proven you can get the job done with them. They're rarely a source of FTFs though.
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 magpul mags are great, because when all the retards give there mags a "slap" it doesnt slowly bend the feed lips in causing failur to feeds, they will crack...and the user will see it. The argument wasnt for a different size caliber, but a different casing, U.S. has a tendency to use straight cased sporting cartridges when the russians use "heavily" tapered casings to aid in insertion, extraction, and overall reliability
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 You know, it's been a long time since I had thought about that, and its an excellent point. I'd like to see us go to a heavier caliber, and, while we're at it, we could go to a better casing design. The COD ref was about m16 flaws offset by other weapons flaws...whatever.
DGI lightens the nose of the gun, eliminates a hardpoint on the barrel, and reduces movement out-of-line with the bore. It contributes to a more accurate rifle, at the cost of increased maintenance/heat retention.
nov284 1 year ago
@ftf1987 The rifles biggest problem is a flawed BCG. The amount of drag caused by say, some carbon fouling, is disproportionate to what it should take to overcome said fouling because the bolt to tries to cam and the BCG tries to counter-rotate while stripping fresh rounds off of the magazine. Everything else done to that rifle is polishing the brass on the titanic untill we re-engineer the BCG to stop the bolt from camming (internal to the BCG) until its seated behind the barrel.
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 if over 80% of combat malfunctions are magazine related, how is the BCG the biggest flaw? The bolt carrier group is another give and take, its what happens when you dont rely on rails that can warp or be bent. And the amount of rounds needed to cause said fouling and drag is quit substantial. I have burned through 500rnd packs of dirty wolf in a carbine length gas system with no problems. Is it dirty as fuck, yes...but it didnt quit, and i am very modest with lube compared to most
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Everybody that has ever claimed an M16's tolerances were "too tight" and that's why it has reliability issues actually were adressing the result of that BCG issue I was talking about. How much effect carbon has is debateable, but sand and grit will shut that system down in a heart-beat, and carbon will tend to contaminate your lube and turn it into a tacky, sticky mess.
Many people overlubricate, which causes more problems than too little.
youtube.com/watch?v=6JmIQXkoog8
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 oh im by no means saying lube is the answer, some is nice as it makes clean up much easier, but the less the better, and i would only aply before patrols and then remove once back. The dirt and sand comment i dont agree with because if your weapon is in condition 1 with the ejection port cover closed the m16 is very debris proof (even with open for kicks check out "AR vs. AK dirt/dust test" video, set up or not, proves a point).
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I'm just always tempted to trim it down to keep in under 500 characters. Sometimes I sound a bit terse, or too matter-of-fact. I've never been a huge fan of the AK...I'm a bit of a nationalist and try to buy American.
I've never had the pleasure of trying to maintain an M16 in the desert, but I'm due to get the experience soon. Maybe experience will change my tune. Fortunately it won't be my main squeeze, and .50 BMG is more my style anyway :-)
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 in the end, i have had nothing but excellent reliability out of every AR i have used, from the FN/Colts in the Marines....to the DPMSs i own now, i wish your experience was the same. I dont know how long ago you were in, but I used an old ass beat up A2 in bootcamp and even that worked fine. You talked about wanting to get pmags, so maybe you have an AR... even if you dont and if your ever in SE MN and have time PM me and we should go shoot.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 I don't rail against these weapons so much because it'll help me, I do it because I feel like our grunts deserve a better platform than one that was biblicaly aweful 40 years ago, and plateaued probably 20 or 30 years ago with only the most egregious shortcomings addressed (though I do appreciate that they put a little retaining stud in there for the extractor spring). At least when they do shoot they're accurate as hell.
I'd like that. I don't need much of an excuse to go shoot!
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284 Damn nov lol you're in here railing against the AR's too?? You might've just had bad luck with yours, you know?? Yeah the original M-16's sucked because they were supposed to work great with minimal lube and maintenance, obviously the opposite was true. Things are different these days man. You just need to know your enviro and your weapon. Here in AZ it's dry so the AR likes lotsa lube. Nice seeing you again bud lol.
phlyingphetus 1 year ago
@phlyingphetus What can I say? I'm a malcontent :-)
nov284 1 year ago
@oOChaosWolfOo p.s. why did you remove your comment where you told me that "slapping" magazines in wasnt a major cause of malfunctions? Did you try it yourself and realize that the carrier group will bend the feed lips down and in, and eventually cause the rounds to not feed correctly, if at all. lots of magazines are scrap metal thanks to that good ole' army strong slap.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 i never said slapping mags doesnt cause malfunctions, thats a HUGE cause. I deleted a comment because i thought it sounded too hostile. And i'm not talking recruits or POGs dude. After Basic and SOI, a Marine IS in fact the highly trained finely tuned military fighting force i was talking about.
oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
@oOChaosWolfOo "It isn't due to "slapping" our mags you stupid fuck"...thats from the message you sent. I will send you the whole thing if you like. I never specifically said anything regarding the Marines in general until you assumed i did, so that argument is worthless. I said that untrained or undisciplined people are the reason the m16 has bad rep. You never had problems, nor did I, so we must be trained.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Probably something i should have done with the dumb ass comment. But, i still think you shouldn't openly bash your own friggin' military.
oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
i have written the magazine info on most m16 reliability videos because many dont know. Just about every member of the u.s. army i know gives their magazine a slap, and i tell them what they are doing is wrong. I hardly bashed the the U.S. military, you have been in and should know there are a few shitbags. Those few have soured the m16 reputation more than it deserves, Its no conscript ready rifle, its a professional soldiers rifle, and not everyone is proffessional enough to operate it.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Because that DOES make you look like an ass hole. I don't actually know you though so all i have to go in is 3 comments.
oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
@oOChaosWolfOo look up "tales of the gun the ak-47 assault rifle part 4/5", watch at 1:40 on that video and realize thats a U.S. Army firearms instructor who is teaching thousands of soldiers to make their rifles unreliable. Im not bashing the military, but i will scrutinize it when incorrect training is causing death.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@ftf1987 Dude that's a fucking outdated instructor. He is still wearing a Vietnam era US Army helmit. Your probably one of the people that would say our soldiers couldn't handle fully automatic weapons with all their training, because in Nam our soldiers would spray and pray. Do you realize that our soldiers in Vietnam had less training than they did in World War II? You may as well give a civilian a weapon. I never instructed any such things during my time.
oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
#1 stop putting words in my mouth, im sick of defending myself against things you assume i think #2 You are a complete fucking retard, that is a current issue helmet, it simply doesnt have a cloth cover, and in part 5/5 the "outdated instructors" are firing "newly imported" Saiga rifles and shotguns, which means it was most likely filmed after the 2004 lift of the assault rifle ban, so much for vietnam era. Im done argueing, nice talking with you.
ftf1987 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 Depends a lot on several points. For example ammo, what kind of barrel or what kind of bold carrier etc. A several weeks ago i saw an episode of Future weapons on Discovery Channel and they had an bold reciever wich was used for a lot of shots, and it was'nt even hot.
And i believe that the makers of this gun, everyday trying to improve it.
Greetings from the Netherlands ( Sorry if my English is not that good )
TangoJulio 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 mags of ammo.. and thats because soliders dont clean their rifles like there spous to... trust me i know<.<
vampire847 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 only when it was first designed
rpovlik 1 year ago
@shadownetava123 Most soldiers who complain about reliability also don't clean their weapons or are using crappy magazines(Thank heavens we're getting rid of those)
The problem with the weapons we use is the ammunition just isn't big enough. Otherwise the AR platform is a solid platform. She likes lube though, she's kind of tight.
OspreyKnight 1 year ago
@OspreyKnight She likes lube though, she's kind of tight.Cmon thats a thats what she said
tfoshohoe 11 months ago
only 1100 rounnd
it's a joke
druisteen2 1 year ago
@druisteen2 One Word....... Un-Educated
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@druisteen2 Two words....... Un-Educated Idiot.
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@respectforveterans
one word
conard
druisteen2 1 year ago
i know all you guys are AR fans, but i don't like the way he is testing the rifle. i would like to see him do it again. i want him to hold tiger NOT this bursting shit, also i would like to see him to reload as fast as he can. i have seen AKs cach on fire and still keep on going.also no water cool off.
jaso0603 1 year ago
@jaso0603 85% of all U.S. rifles(M16 and M4) are not full auto. They are 3 round burst. Who in the name of God would ever fire 1100 rounds all full auto in a row? It will kill any small rifle. Any barrel of an AK, M16, SIG 550 etc would be ruined if you fired full auto 1100 rounds in say 3-6 minutes. Just smoke the barrel.
semiautoriflelover 1 year ago
@jaso0603 water cool off would would be bad .... that's why you don't see it it.
mentalrock 1 year ago
if your responsible with your gun you can make er last years of heavy use. maintenance makes or breaks your gun.
fearloathing420 1 year ago
did this permanently damage the firearm?
Chriznak 1 year ago
@Chriznak
Yes.
when you shoot any gun it damages it.
most guns cant shoot any more than 2000 rounds without breaking
and please. im Britain i dont know lots about guns so i dont want any hill billys trollin my comments.
im sorry if a gun can take 2001 rounds.
BKsMassive 1 year ago
@BKsMassive
Sorry to break it to you, but firearms can fire a lot more than 2K rounds before they break. I have a Glock 19 that I shoot over 2000 rounds a month thru and have done that since I got it in 2008. The gun probably has over close to 55,000 rounds thru it and the only issue was I replaced the barrel about 5,000 rounds back. Im not a hill billy and im not trolling, just giving you the facts so you know.
2238945gbs 1 year ago
@2238945gbs Boy you ppl are really stupid about firearms and it scares me that you own some. Wow comparing a Glock to an AR that is truely Funny. And for others Comparing an AK to an AR..very funny. They are totally different platforms. Try this GBS take your glock whatever, to bad you couldn't try it with a G18, but anyway and fire 5000 rounds in 1 day. See how it holds up. K???
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@respectforveterans
Can you tell me where I compared a AR to my Glock? Becasue I did not, I said firearms can fire more than 2K rounds without breaking. BKsMassive said most guns break after firing 2K rounds, which is not true.
You really do not know as much about firearms as you think you do. I suggest you get off the internet, join the USMC and serve for 8 years like I did in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and then become private Executive Security and carry a gun everyday protecting people.
2238945gbs 1 year ago
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respectforveterans 1 year ago
@respectforveterans Which is what I do. I am around firearms and have been since I was born. Please don't get on here and try to act all high and mighty when you really have no idea what you are saying. With your screename being respectforveterans, you are an incredible prick and really have no background on which to try to teach people. Tell me what are your qualifications? Have you served? Do you protect people everyday? Unless you do, which I highly doubt, dont go around trolling.
2238945gbs 1 year ago
@2238945gbs I am glad you made it home alive and I do respect you for your service. I don't consider Afghan and Iraq to be Wars. It's more just a messed up POLITICAL situation. The last war that had REAL reasons to go into ended in 1945.
As to your questions, yes I have a C&C permit and protect myself and my children everyday. Sometimes this country seems like a war zone, I DO NOT have any military experience but most of my family has served so I grew up on a base. In short I do apoligize.....
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@2238945gbs Part 2
In short I do apoligize. I did not see you were responding to someone else's comment. It sounded as if you were comparing auto fire of a handgun to a long gun (AR-15 in this case). I hope all Gun Owners as you are can be mature, and just move on, I'm so sick of people fighting on here over pointless stuff :)
BTW: I am Female so I MUST protect my children
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@BKsMassive if your gun cant take 2000 rounds it sucks LMFAO..
My 22 has over 20,000 rounds through it.. My glock has over 6000 rounds through it. My ar has over 3000 rounds through it, my mosin nagants has over 2000 rounds through them each, my 1911 has over 5000 rounds through it, my ak has over 4000 rounds through it, my 870 has over 2000 rounds through it, If a gun doesn't surpass 10000 rounds before having a part break, i wont buy it.
You sir are a moron.
fusionstar916 1 year ago
@fusionstar916 Thats 42,000 rounds..."You sir" are Broke
lol..just kidding...I hope
swordsman3000 1 year ago
@BKsMassive ANY gun that breaks within a mere 2,000 rounds isn't worthy of being sold to the public. Infact most manufactures recommend owners of new guns to shoot around 500rounds JUST to break it in. 2,000 rounds is sufficient to test the reliability or a gun, but not even close to enough for a durability test.
ILRRLM 1 year ago
@ILRRLM Are you an idiot or just never fired an AR? First off it is Full auto. Full auto is not sold to the public. AR's are meant to be semi-auto. An M-16 is Full or Burst. Second if you would actually READ ANY AR manual it will tell you 30 to 50 rounds a minute at MOST. The break in period is meant to be fired slowly and accurately. This is a test of the Gun's barrel/and bolt strength under CONSTANT FIRE. Please do not ever pick up a firearm again before you take some lessons or training.
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@respectforveterans Dan dude, chill out. My comment wasn't referring to nonstop firing as is shown here. It was referring to the number of rounds in general that have been fired through a weapon throughout it's life. FYI, Mr. Know-it-all M16's are sold to the Public via NFA regulations. Now, get off your high horse, quit your bitching and show some respect. If you can't say anything constructive and or positive find somewhere else to spew your spam. Youtube doesn't need more people like that.
ILRRLM 1 year ago
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respectforveterans 1 year ago
@ILRRLM I apoligize ILRRM, I thought you were refering to the movie clip, which is supposed to be the topic here. So when I just glanced at your post and read it, I thought you were referring to the clip. Again sorry.
But I do disagree about Full Auto :P I can think of 8 States that DENY your 2nd amendment right and will not even let FFL's own FA arms. In fact some states seem like they're trying to do away with it totally.
respectforveterans 1 year ago
@BKsMassive Your average firearm fires orders of magnitude more than a mere 2k! I put damned near that many rounds through my .308 before I was satisfied that it was sufficiently broke in and zeroed it at 200yds for the first time.
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284
tbh i have no idea about guns :p
all i know is they can shoot about 2k bullets until they Fuck over
im From Great Britain, Guns are illegal :(
BKsMassive 1 year ago
@BKsMassive thats tragic dude.
nov284 1 year ago
@nov284
damn mother fucking Straight.
i have always wanted to Bowl into School with a 9mm.
BKsMassive 1 year ago