@rnicho1000 I think it's so funny as you listen to Zwan from the beginning to the end you can see him going back to a sad Smashing Pumpkins style like The Girl With The Cruel Face, The Empty Sea, Riverview and Of A Broken Heart.
Just because Billy is the lead singer doesn't mean that the music has to sound like Smashing Pumpkins. Zwan is a different band and their music is great in its own right. Paz is an awesome bassist. I think that ANYONE can play great music regardless of gender!!!
does he pronounce be as beh. no place i could beh without you. his policy on bass players reminds me of that seinfeld episode where Elaine all heated about the waitresses at Monk's
Basically they were at each other's throats. At least that's what Corgan says about it. He doesn't think that they're good people, and before he regrouped the pumpkins he said in an interview that he hated his former band mates from Zwan and a reformation of the Pumpkins was more likely because "they're good people"
2001 Interview: "It's not on purpose. I can imagine how it looks from the outside. I just love to play with really great musicians. It's never been a male/female issue for me. Everyone makes a big deal out of it."
That was back in 2001, when he was on his third female bassist (D'arcy Wretsky, Melissa Auf der Maur, Paz Lenchantin). Now he's on his fifth (Ginger Pooley, Nicole Fiorentino).
I wonder if it's now become a running joke that he feels obligated to continue.
@bogeaqYT imho he's too enlightened for it to be any cheesy/stupid reasons - i honestly think for him he wants a female presence on stage (if for no other reason than to temper any sausageparty rock vibes, but probably more than that) and a certain energy behind the bass playing as a counterpoint to JC - and this seems to be women bassists he finds it in. i think it's a neat pattern, but mostly b/c i trust corgan's judgement/views to be about it for good reasons.
@twcatube You my friend made the most sensible comment associated with this video. I wish I could show my agreement more than just a thumbs up and this comment.
PAJO was having sex with the producer's girlfriend while recording 'Mary Star of the Sea" and possibly doing HEROIN as stated by Billy Corgan in a Chicago Tribune article published on April 24th 2005.
In this song billy probably uses a flanger, or phaser pedal for that cool sweeping sound. And maybe a chorus pedal because on the clean parts billy has a really dry signal.
He Ivannanto how do you said this? dont you know smashing pumpkins...was the band that billy founded before Zwan, and they had a girl on bass, D'arcy Wretzky...so awesome...search for their videos here
nice^^
lumyingluo 4 months ago
They looked they were miserable at that time
jecubixWeb 9 months ago
Nice solo in that song
Tonicwine999 10 months ago
F***! They were an amazing and tight band! Did they really had to spit that way?
rodplural 1 year ago
To me Zwan was just Smashing Pumpkins with an identity problem, Mary Star Of The Sea could have easily passed as a Smashing Pumpkins album.
nicholsjoshua15 1 year ago 4
@nicholsjoshua15 true, Corgin just has a unique sound and writting technic that is always SP no matter what the band is called.
rnicho1000 1 year ago
@rnicho1000 I think it's so funny as you listen to Zwan from the beginning to the end you can see him going back to a sad Smashing Pumpkins style like The Girl With The Cruel Face, The Empty Sea, Riverview and Of A Broken Heart.
nicholsjoshua15 1 year ago
That solo at the end was pure class.
Davepumpkinhead 1 year ago
Honestly ojala tuvieramos buena musica como antes
Ligabueno 1 year ago
Honestly
Ligabueno 1 year ago
A question: Does Corgan play this song as Smashing Pumpkins? or just as Zwan?
arturazoo 1 year ago
@arturazoo Zwan only, I think.
TheSPumpkin100 1 year ago
well done ! wish I was there as well.... regards zwan from Jakarta
stereophonics69 1 year ago
Just because Billy is the lead singer doesn't mean that the music has to sound like Smashing Pumpkins. Zwan is a different band and their music is great in its own right. Paz is an awesome bassist. I think that ANYONE can play great music regardless of gender!!!
TrojanBlackHorse 1 year ago
does he pronounce be as beh. no place i could beh without you. his policy on bass players reminds me of that seinfeld episode where Elaine all heated about the waitresses at Monk's
gerbschmitt 1 year ago
wish i could of saw this live!
omgyoukilledkenny94 1 year ago 3
omg, sound ingeeners of that show ruined Jimmy drum sounds BIG TIME.. just listen to that hi hat left alone way above everything else lol
NAIVADA 2 years ago
But they made the guitar sound soooo epic. Best version of this song on Youtube.
CyanWinters 2 years ago
I love Paz Lenchantin (L)
alternativomuse 2 years ago
love the guitar tone
sf42lax 2 years ago 2
These guys just don't rock like the Smashing Pumpkins did!
smjjohnson 2 years ago 3
zwan was good but the pumpkins kick ass!!
skizmsucks23 2 years ago 3
gotta love the level 3 sex offender stache on him lol
98navihater 2 years ago 6
when they were debuting, they all had moustaches.. i don't know if it was an inside joke with the band.. but interesting :p
wildzer0 2 years ago
The look Billy goes for would look a lot cooler if he was black, I think.
Not that it has any bearing on the music :P
MorfGworfmim 2 years ago
man jimmy chamberlain that is an ugly ass drumset haha
Kobeownzu81 2 years ago 4
anything with billies voice in front of it will sound like the pumpkins
nathtay1986 2 years ago
Billy kind of spaced it after the solo, eh? Ha ha! The song's still going, Billy!
switzerlicious 2 years ago
agreeing with everyone else... that moustache was just a baaaad move on his part, haha.
honestlaughter 2 years ago
This vid is awesome, except for billy's mustache.
closetneko 2 years ago 4
Billy looks terrifying with facial hair haha
SeeYouinHollywood 2 years ago
billy's no pediphile man. u dont have a clue about what your talking about.
TheKcd89 2 years ago 2
Thats not a moustash its a pediphile molestash
otoole420 2 years ago
moustash!
jasonjinx 2 years ago
hahaha,i was about to say the same thing
zakarmugahar 2 years ago
goddamn Paz is awesome.
sipasabayag 2 years ago 3
Meh.
anchower 2 years ago
DAVID PAJO IS AWESOME FAGGOT
lueshiascii 2 years ago
Who? Exactly.
jfayiii 2 years ago
@lueshiascii woah woah dude watch teh slurs eh
twcatube 1 year ago
dave pajo, ur a terrible guitarist - the worst musician of Zwan by far
freefox12 2 years ago
PAZ!!BASS GODDESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
riothate 2 years ago 2
not as good as smashing pupmkins but still good
tommytwocaps 2 years ago 16
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Hossa29 2 years ago
So what happend to the band why they break up and is he sign still or what
omarsolis1986 2 years ago
corgan disolve the band to regroup smashing pumpkins
kuinter 2 years ago
Basically they were at each other's throats. At least that's what Corgan says about it. He doesn't think that they're good people, and before he regrouped the pumpkins he said in an interview that he hated his former band mates from Zwan and a reformation of the Pumpkins was more likely because "they're good people"
freefox12 2 years ago
I make a joke so you must laugh!! Honestly I dont Know, SO Great this Song !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ligabueno 2 years ago
Descendant of Corganism at Amazon
mrzerodocfan 2 years ago
Damn I hope Paz Goes back with APC she Can do better than this, She has so much potential.
CzarThePlezer 2 years ago 2
why are all of billy corgans bassists chicks?
bogeaqYT 2 years ago 31
I wonder about that too....
coolguybestyu 2 years ago 5
sex appeal maybe?
hashfromplan9 2 years ago 5
a bit of that feminism touch meks a band better i guess. the lone flower amongst the thorns lol...
pissant75 2 years ago 4
I don't know, but it sure as hell works out for him.
schism206 2 years ago
@bogeaqYT And Hot?
pelotillox 1 year ago
@bogeaqYT
2001 Interview: "It's not on purpose. I can imagine how it looks from the outside. I just love to play with really great musicians. It's never been a male/female issue for me. Everyone makes a big deal out of it."
That was back in 2001, when he was on his third female bassist (D'arcy Wretsky, Melissa Auf der Maur, Paz Lenchantin). Now he's on his fifth (Ginger Pooley, Nicole Fiorentino).
I wonder if it's now become a running joke that he feels obligated to continue.
fragglet 1 year ago
@bogeaqYT imho he's too enlightened for it to be any cheesy/stupid reasons - i honestly think for him he wants a female presence on stage (if for no other reason than to temper any sausageparty rock vibes, but probably more than that) and a certain energy behind the bass playing as a counterpoint to JC - and this seems to be women bassists he finds it in. i think it's a neat pattern, but mostly b/c i trust corgan's judgement/views to be about it for good reasons.
twcatube 1 year ago
@twcatube He needs the backup vocals like Darcy. Not as spiritual as you thought is ti? He had mark Tulin (a man) as his basest for awhile though.
nicholsjoshua15 1 year ago
@twcatube You my friend made the most sensible comment associated with this video. I wish I could show my agreement more than just a thumbs up and this comment.
2000jago 10 months ago
"Bet you could get laid by saying 'hey baby... I'm not with the band.'" - Beavis regarding Chavez
suck on that Matt Sweeny.
PersonalJesus348 3 years ago
That's hilarious. I wish I could see that video.
iamlameduck 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
david pajo is the most pretentious guy of all time if you remember the interviews in this. he is a god.
Garconsevers 3 years ago
PAJO was having sex with the producer's girlfriend while recording 'Mary Star of the Sea" and possibly doing HEROIN as stated by Billy Corgan in a Chicago Tribune article published on April 24th 2005.
szymonm81 3 years ago 11
Lol that was when Strombo was at Muchmusic.
gosensgo997 3 years ago
i love the part after the solo when billy forgets to sing at first.
pokemonFnmaster 3 years ago
lol, after playing something really awesome you forget what to do next... happens to a lot of musicians.
rohiogerv22 3 years ago
I got a zoom 606 pedal that can do the same effect,I forget what its called though. Most large multi pedals with 50+ effects can do it.
bob12312357 3 years ago
yo, what kinda pedal deos billy use for the song
ryancampbelll 4 years ago
In this song billy probably uses a flanger, or phaser pedal for that cool sweeping sound. And maybe a chorus pedal because on the clean parts billy has a really dry signal.
ryancampbell01 3 years ago
sounds like a phaser. My Marshall MDFX has one built in.
S0N4R 3 years ago
finally smashing pumpkins got reunited.. poor james & d'arcy.. paz is awesome, no APC..!!
cisskins 4 years ago
Belo espetáculo!
quaseninguem 4 years ago
this is great.
nobrainyet 4 years ago 2
wow, it's the first time I've seen Billy play a strat in years :)
long live Billy!
smashingpumpkin1986 4 years ago 2
The Silversun Pickups, Earlimart, SP and the Thermals all have women bass players. I'm sure I'm not mentioning many more. Not very rare.
Lugak14 4 years ago 2
hahaha
i absolutely love that last comment
sweeet. :]
pelvicxthrustt 5 years ago
yeah, good thing he lost the mustache
monkeymatt100 5 years ago 2
great sound on this vid, love the song, love billy
joeneschumi 5 years ago
He Ivannanto how do you said this? dont you know smashing pumpkins...was the band that billy founded before Zwan, and they had a girl on bass, D'arcy Wretzky...so awesome...search for their videos here
jadoreblue 5 years ago 4
Paz is so hot!
foosonic 5 years ago 3
what the heck is that thing on billy's lip. I think it's a mustache but it's hard to tell. maybe he just had some chocolate milk.
andrewk21 5 years ago