Can you believe this jack ass fighter challenged Van Damme for $100,000 match!!!! Van Damme brushed it off lol...he could have killed Don if he had fought him. It's funny how Don thought he could take Van Damme haha
@mazdaman1980 that shows me that You don`t understand the fighting style of Don Wilson. What looks so boring is the "web of a spider" most people did run into.
It makes me sick that all the great kickboxers like Don Wilson were never offered the opportunities to make the kind of money traditional boxers make.
@NemeanLion thats actually a falasy, there is actually not much money in boxing. Gamblers advisory did an interesting video on it a few days ago reporting on an article in yahoo sports. Most boxers are skint only the the top top teir make the money.
I am not a "Kickboxer". I am a Kung Fu Black Belt and martial artist who used the sport of Kickboxing to improve my striking skils and my defense against strikes. I was a collegiate wrestler before Kickboxing and was a much better grappler than striker. I walked onto the mat and my second year was 4th in the state of Florida. I only quit to pursue my professional kickboxing career. I LOVE the sport of MMA because it is much safer for competitors dealilng with brain damage. Best Wishes guys.
@dragondon Hi Don, I don't know if you care and probably you don't .
But it's always been dream match of mine seeing you fighting Rob Kaman which could've happened, but that time has come and gone and it just wasn't ideal.
I thought you'd like to hear this interview from Kaman on youtube it's called:
MMA Fans Ask's: Rob Kaman, if he could fight anyone anywhere, what would they be
I think he still thinks highly of you, most of us do and it goes without saying... You're a legend.
that's funny... by some of the movies I've seen him in, I never would've guessed that he was a great fighter! he certainly doesn't show his skills on-screen, unlike some who look better on-screen than off :)
the reason don is the best is because he fought the thais 5x and won 4. he fought with their rules and overseas in thailand and hong kong. the 1 loss is controversial. He fought heavier opponents who are great fighters and won: branko cikatic, maurice smith, james warring, dennis alexio, oaktree edwards. he fought everywhere in the world and ducked nobody including taking on theriault in montreal. he fought on concrete floors, mats, in rings,with leg kicks, no leg kicks, thai rules, and throws
@billysue2 I don't know Billy . This is just Your Opinion. Don Wilson is great . No doubt . I rate him higher than Benny Urquidez . But what about Dennis Alexio ? What about Rick Roufus ?
Amazing. Just look at his movies and they're awful, but his matches are incredible!! The man totally knew how to control pace in a real fight but couldn't do a screen match for shit!
@LVSWTZ there thousands of real fighters that can proove their records. back then everybody knew each other and bruce was probably the man that has ever done more promoting martial arts but not a real fighter.
@giugnhgbvinierngvb89 at bruce lee time was popular piont game fight/like cock fight//bruce lee was training like todays most professionals..he was too much for that kind of shit tournament..bruce lee ideas was destroying in real fight..mma or kickboxing are not real fight. bruce lee was real master of real fight..you do not any shit about martial arts shut the fuck up.he was first who mixed up martial arts..at his time everybody was wasting time for katae and for belt..he was laughing..
@Freestyleartclub Answer me some questions if you can please because i have that feeling you are the one who " do not any shit about martial arts " . You speak so desrespectfull of point fighting and katas. So : how was Bruce training and the other ( real ) fighters were not back then ? What his ideas were so Destroying in real fight ? And let take a hypothetical situation : Bruce Lee was 69 kg this like Welterweight you put him and Manny pacquiao in a fight who is gonna win ?
@DranzieBooy Bruce lee knew grappling,submission knees,elbows,chocking, kicking,take downs, Many knows punching, Bruce lee has more advantage to destroy him.Bruce lee was training like real man.he was not doing katas after 1968 boxing grappling kicking,running skipping weight lifting was his training routine. why bruce lee was better then others?because when others was doing kata and fake kumite he was training like these days professionals. kid grow up you will understand one day
@Freestyleartclub I am grown up pal and your Parents should teach you good manners when you talk or write to other people, you try to insult somebody everytime you write something thats very inmature maybe You should think about growing up.But back to my questions : Every kid that trains muay thai / pradal serey in southeastasia trains kicks / punches / elbows / takedowns/ kicking on a daily routine. Bokator the Cambodia martial art consists of : (sorry i continue down here)...
..kicking/punching/grappling/elbows/takedowns/throws and it was invented hundred of years before Bruce was even born. Many of the traditional karate styles like shorin ryu etc have kicking/punching/throws/takedowns in it . About the training : almost every pro karate fighter in the 60' ( like Wallace , Lewis , Norris ) were doing skipping , weightlifting , conditioning , running . The Judo guys in the 60' were doing sport nutrition at that times already. At the same time ...
...Bruce was making movies , smoking pot , drinking and he took drugs also . He lived as a movie star because he was one they were training everyday like pro fighters because they were pro fighters. You still didn't answered my question- what of his ideas were so destroying in a fight ? And about the Manny thing you know that a punch is the easiest , fastest way to hurt somebody ? But ok...lets say Benny Urquidez against Bruce . Take your pick.
@giugnhgbvinierngvb89 The problem is that most people can't really see the difference between real and screen fighting . Of course Bruce Lee was passionate , very skilled martial artist with great ideas ahead of his times . But to compare him to pro fighters is just insane. To put him in a professional ring lets say against a guy like Don Wilson is absurd .No one has ever done more to promote himself to a legend. And now he has thousands of psycho fans with no reality clue.
7:11 is my cousin from Greenville NC. We were so proud of him being a light heavy weight kick-boxing champ. He just wouldn't get his life on the right path, or stop hanging around the wrong people. He keeps going to jail & prison. I tried not to give up on him, 'Curtis Cowboy Crandall'. But he gave up on himself. 2010 he's 50 yrs old. I hope that he'll straighten up when he gets out again!
@pornpan96 benny was a great fighter donnie wasnt. loosing a match is no disgrace, avoiding to loos is. I am not aware of benny having lost, could you point out which fight that is? Besides in the lightweight you cant fight the thais ( if anyone could it was benny, rob kaman and raymon...? 2 dutch guys ) they are great just look them up you will be shocked how much power and persistence they have, practically not human.
Avoiding loss? What the hell are you talking about? Wilson was forced to lose some 8 pounds hours before the fight at the Radjamnern Stadium, and lost the decision. Still he did not turn the loss to a no-contest like Urquidez did. Nor he did claim the fight was an exhibition like Urquidez did. I have no intention to take the credits away from Urquidez, but he lost the decision to the then No.4 rated Thai, Prayout Sittiboonlert in Tokyo. End of story.
@legkicker01 misunderstanding i didnt say wilson did avoid loosing.....i never followed him, nor most others in these kinda competitions. I have always seen them amateurs fighting for money, though things have improved in the last years and competitions seem to be of higher level and more professional. Why i like benny is that he did have technical ability.
anyway check out ramon dekkers, rob kaman. Both were great fighters
Thanks for your input. I understand what you said. I would prefer Urquidez over Wilson when it comes to technical ability. Wilson had a better record, but Urquidez is a career martial artist with solid traditional training. I am from Japan,and I have been a big fan of Rob Kaman.
@Liquidcadmus go and learn about kickboxing history before You write coments like this. Sure Tomaz is a fantastic fighter,and I wish I coulld fight like him ;-) but Don is one of the greatest kickboxer of all time. He fought Alexio, Theriault, Branko...
@Liquidcadmus I don't know about that. I'm not a Don Wilson fan or anything, but I do know that you have to be really good a lot of times if you make someone else look bad, even if your own technique isn't picture perfect. Muhammad Ali on the downslope of his career, made George Foreman look like an amateur at a time when George Foreman was as feared as Mike Tyson in his prime. It is hard for me to criticize someone who has the guts to step in the ring.
@tonyvalente look at this video. is his style great or really dominant? no it isn't. most of the guys he beat weren't that great. you think he's great, that's fine. i don't.
Norris knew Lee, thus his opinion can be respectable, but you don't know Lee personally, thus your argument is just a whining of a geek. ....aaaaaahh well thats goes for bouth of us then you did not know him personaly ether ....lol
There is somthing you need to know before you blab on. Yes Don the dragon was great no question. But bruce lee fighting only regular guys is stupid to say at least. Chuck noris was 7 time champ back in the day and retired undefited and he even admited that he was no match for bruce lee (lee's student also). Now you do know that chuck noris was actualy great fighter as well. second legkicker01 bruce lee has studdied Submission Grappling.
legkicker01 he showed this in Enter the Dragon and Game of Death before he past away. Other wise how do you explane Jeet Kune Do hand traping, stand up and ground grappling ..Where did that come from. And third Bruce Lee always modified his art for street based not sport like mma fighters today. GSP is one of my most fav MMA fighters, but even he will tell you he never got into a street fight. So what you will say he would lose in a street fight?
and forth street fighters can't do best in the ring because they are used to those rules ...and i belive most (not all) mma fighters would do shity on the streets because they are not used to those rules. So there and for Don and Lee were not even same type of fighter .... And Bruce Lee would not be a legend today if he was just good actor.
ahhhh well you did not know lee personaly ether ...sooooo your whining geek too?
second you obviously cant be any type of real martial artist ...you might be some kind of simple judoka or karateka at best ...if that ...but there were always street fighters and ring fighters ... you are one of those guys that would eat your words if they asked you about Royce Gracie .. the guy never compeated in turnaments and never realy won anything
so ppl like you would be all smart about it and know it all would say "what Royce pfff that kid is going to get killed in that cage .. he has not compeated or won anything" and bam ...ppl like you were proven so wrong ..aaand if you listen to Gracies interviews they took part in a lot of street fights .. soooo what they are street thugs ...aaaah no ... there is a reason that some martial arts are sport and some never will be
so just remeber lol .."Willing is not enough; we must do. Knowing is not enough; we must apply."
but on serious note: so again it does not matter what tournament you enter or compeat or style you study cuz in the end its not what or how much you know but how you apply what you have learned ...write that down
You don't do anything at all, and certainly not applying either. It seems like training is the most neglected phase among Geek Kune Do cults, too much time is given to the meaningless discussions of how great BL was, and too little to the development of the individual for participation.
ahhh hah actualy i do i have done karate, muay thai, boxing, jiu jitsu and some kali and OH yes and JEET KUNE DO and its pathetic when i hear ppl like you ... because at the end of the day BL acomplished more in last few years then you will in life time. And you can check how much discussion i do ...i replied to you thats all cuz i was tired of your stupidity. and every time i have proved my point you went around trying to prove a nother cuz cant cope that i'm right
Based on the way you talk about BL and others, it is hard to believe that you actually studied the arts. What's the point of comparing BL with me? I never said I'm better than him or has lot more to offer, things like that. I just merely pointed out he was not a fighter, period. Proven your points? What point? The only thing you've proven so far is that you are just another Geek Kune Do expert who cannot distinguish realities from fantasies.
Ever since i could walk i remember watching BL movies in Europe and ever since i was a boy i loved martial arts ..Yes he influenced me. So soon as i had the chance i took martial arts.
i'm comparing BL against you cuz you shure talk a lot of shit like you can walk it also ..But more so cuz what are you mid 30s and your acting like 10year old.
And also what make you better then those geek kune do guys hmm they diss per say Don you Diss them and that makes you better ?? lol
Its obvious as day light you are no martial artest ..and if are one then you got no etiquette ...aaaand i might have given you more credid then you deserve.
For i'm sure in person i could tach you a lot about martial arts "and fighting on the streets"... lol i can gerantee you that. And i guess your just a misrable man that wishes he had some skills or at least as much as i guess as you put it geek kune do "geeks" do .... o and bruce lee was always a fighter dont forget that
You should not talk about etiquette since you don't have any of it. Just look at the way talk your nonsense of the BL's so-called greatness here, a Don Wilson video. Are you saying this is a good example of etiquette? You have nothing to teach me about martial arts either since you don't know such thing in the first place. Real martial arts practitioners do not bring unrelated and unnecessary topics to waste people's time.
Unlike you and other BL geeks, I've never talked ill of champs like Royce Gracie. It is obvious to anyone that it is almost always the BL geeks who love to start talking about BL anytime a new champion emerges, and talk endlessly about how BL would've beaten those champs, etc. BL is gone and that type of meaningless discussions won't do any good to martial artists.
and Royce Gracie was just a simple example i used to show how ignorant you are ...there is many martial artists out there that dont wish to display there skills in sport like manor for there martial skill was never sport... and i have not said BL would beat RG or who ever did i? i mearly stated that he was great and sure there might be geek kune do geeks out there but your def among them
I know there are many people out there who don't wish to display their skills in competition, but the majority of them at least never try to boast their so-called fighting skills either. They don't boast their so-called greatness either. And this is a Don Wilson clip. It doesn't have to do anything with how great BL was. If you want to discuss that, then do it somewhere else.
I was not the one saying Don sucks, or don this, or don that ok .ppl will always post good, bad, and dumb things its internet.
if some one thinks S Seagal can beat Don then great thats there opinion ... but i'll only respect that opinion if there is some legit facts ... If i dont respect it then i'll egnore it. But i dont go out of my way to diss other fighters that have passed or not know too much about them and try to look smart by proving somthing fictional such as your self
I don't have to know BL personally at all. What is so obvious is that there is no way for us to verify how good Lee actually was. There is no way for us to make objective evaluation of him being a fighter. On the other hand, champs like Royce Gracie have proven themselves and there is no question about their fighting abilities.
well take just simple things like no one at the time was faster .. his punch was more powerful then karates traditional punch he combined diferent foot work and styles to make it more efective (for street ...he was staying away of making it into a sport)... his philosophy was even highly looked up on by other great masters ...some in roled to be tought by BL ...soooo if he was as bad as you make it out to be then no martial artist would give him that respect
How come are you so sure about no one was faster than him back then? There must've been someone who was just as fast as or even faster than him. Staying away of making it into a sport? Then, why did Lee approach some of the top karate champions in the US? Why did he want to serve as their coach if he didn't like the sport?
I'm stating things i know against things you know thats all, except i'm not buyest, imature about it ...or even against some facts. Besides executing one punch really fast and like he did various attacks very fast is two diferent things. And he did not approach some of the top champions he was invited to do a seminar (he was known in hong kong before states right) and like i said even common sence and logic behind BL Phylosophy was realy smart
so most good fighters must have bin smart (example somthing simple as this could help sport, have your strongest wepon closest to your opponent. And for street instead of closing in for a punch, you dont close in and use a straight kick to the knee cap.) and this is just somthing simple simple.
besides real martial artist went to be tought by BL to find there own way of expreasing there style
There is no such thing as street fighters. You can be either a street thug or an ordinary citizen who had to defend themselves on the street. It is obvious that you are a geek type who has never been physical in his life time. Because of people like you, the Bruce Lee fans have widely regarded as Geek Kune Do experts.
Lee studied grappling, and so what? Did he fight anyone with it? The answer is no. Chuck Norris is just doing his lip service. He believes it's not right to speak ill of someone who no longer can defend himself.
to legkicker01 there will never be another bruce lee.... bruce lee was amazing and defined martial arts in the last 20th century. still don wilson has done it justice.
don fought a bunch of guys who suck,and he beat a boxer?!wow he beat a guy with a limited offense.thats like fighting mma and saying u can only use ur fist. don was good but not that good
Yes! I definitely know about fighting lot more than a geek like you. But I never pretend to know about fighting more than proven champions. Since you say guys Wison beat suck, I am sure you do know about fighting lot more than him, right?
I strongly encourage you to see a psychiatrist. Remember, you are just another world champion in keyboard fighting even though you want to believe you are some kind of badass.
@legkicker01 If you're gonna make up statements and say they're true then it's obviously no good trying to reason with you. Furthermore,you still haven't explained the Dana White statement that I mentioned....
What's the big deal with the Dana White comment? He is a human just like us, and he too occasionally makes mistake. Maybe he was right about Lee being the father of MMA, but only in the US.
@legkicker01 that statement is full of shit. The reason MMA is big is because of JKD. He was the first to display or use the 4 oz gloves in sparring. Which is currently used in MMA today. Even Bas Ruten, and Anderson silva said they got started because of bruce lee.
It is you who is full of shit. Bruce Lee's sparring session had little resemblance to the contemporary MMA sparring. The adoption of 4 oz gloves was the result of the political pressure from the athletic commissions. Prior to that, bareknucle was the option for the UFC and Brazilian vale tude competition. Like Rutten, Maurice Smith too got involved in MA because of Lee, but he has never given Lee the credit as a legitimate fighter.
On the street, and against who? I too fought on the street for more than a couple of times, but at least I am smart enough to understand I am absolutely no match against trained and proven champions.
@legkicker01 u still have a "punchers chance" it takes more than knowing techniques to know how to fight. anyone can lose a fight even proven champs.u could train all ur life and still lose to someone who never stepped foot in a dojo. look at brock lesnar,he comes from wwe?no one thought he could make it in the ufc against proven fighters.but guess what? now hes the ufc champ?thats crazy? right? not really.
Yes! Anyone can lose, including proven champs. We all know that. Still it doesn't make Bruce Lee a fighter. I do not intend to discredit Brock Lesnar, but I think the pool of the talents in his weight division is quite poor compared to other weight classes. Those who make the big deal of Bruce Lee's so-called streetfighting prowess don't talk aout "punchers chance."
@ToshiroMifuneSamurai bruce regularly sparred with a blind fold.could don?no!u say don was a real fighter but he fought for sport where there are rules,bruce trained for a real anything goes situation,,,whos the "real fighter"?
@THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY Who's the real fighter? Obviously it's Don. You make it look like Bruce Lee was fighting in the streets everyday. Ok, he may have trained for real situations, but that doesn't make him a better fighter than Don 'The Dragon' Wilson.
Anyway, we'll never know who would win. I respect both of them.
@ToshiroMifuneSamurai the thing is they never fought, and there both from different era's you can't compare them. And everyone knows bruce lee. I know a lot of people who don't know who don the dragon wilson is. Everyone knows about bruce lee. Why? If it wasn't for bruce lee martial arts would not of been as popular as it now is. Bruce lee put martial arts on the map and paved the way for all these discussions people have point and period.
You shouldn't compare apple to orange. It is true Bruce Lee might have been responsible for the worldwide popularity of martial arts, but it doesn't make him a fighter who can defeat proven champions. Remember Bruce Lee gained his fame with his film works, not for his so-called streetfighting prowess. Lee was totally unproven as a legitimate fighter.
Practicing chi sao with blind fold can hardly be regarded as a form of sparring. Lee might have trained for self-defense situation, but he refused to display his skill against a live opponent even just a one time. He was just the typical Chinese MA practitioner, who hated to lose face by losing to someone. It is also the misconception that competitors can only fight within rules. There have been so many champions, top rated fighters who successfully defended themselves on the street.
@legkicker01 Fist of Fury was shot in Thai Land where he was challenged by many Muay thai fighters. The Films were never released cause bruce was smart. he never wanted anyone studying his fighting style, so he destroyed the film of him fighting actual martial artist extras. And how do you know that practicing Chi Sao doesnt work? Thats a totally blind, and opinionated statement. Even the father of american Tae Kwon Do Jun Ree said that the last person he wanted to fight was Bruce lee.
The films were never release because there was no such fight in the first place. Chi sao and similar exercises are just exercise,not sparring. Jhoon Rhee, just like Bruce, was more of coach, rather than a fighter. But unlike Lee, mr. Rhee had produced many proven champions.
@legkicker01 Chi sao is a great exercise for parry blocking, trapping and close counter work out. Just because bruce lee showed chi sao does not mean he didn't spar. One of Bruce Lee's core concepts is that Physical sparring without pads is the best way to practice. He also sparred with pads as well, and believed that a belt is only good to hold up your pants. When bruce lee fought people he didnt want to fight in the ring. Ring you use gloves, bruce lee hardened himself for a reason.
Do you understand English? I never said chi sao isn't useful. It is true we use gloves in the ring, but it doesn't make ring fighters less capable on the street. The great Jack Dempsey managed to knock out two thugs who tried to rob in his restaurant. And Dempsey was over 70 years old and bare knucled.
@legkicker01 o i get it,u think ur a fighter cuz u use gloves?and lee wasnt a fighter cuz he didnt fight for sport,,he fought in real fights,where there were no rules.whos the real fighter?fighting means anything goes.r u saying he never got into a fight?i think u mean to say that he wastn a sport fighter.yes thats true.but he was a born fighter.he has a fighting spirit.read his wikipedia fight history
Bruce Lee might have fought a few bums on the street, but it doesn't make him a fighter capable of beating proven champions. Even Bass Rutten, who both fought in the ring and on the street, said fighting untrained people on the street cannot be compared to ring fighting with trained warriors.
@legkicker01 Bruce Lee was your so-called "unproven fighter" who defeated Dan Inosanto AND Chuck Norris, who were both at the time national fighting champions, in addition to winning local boxing competitions in North America and defeating various martial artists... UFC president Dana White has went on the record saying that " Bruce Lee is the father of MMA and is arguably modern day's best martial artist"... This proof enough??!!
When was the last time Lee defeated Norris? You must have watched Return of the Dragon too many times. Inosanto? He won a couple of local point tourneys. Still, fighting has evolved dramatically in the last couple decades. Lee simply could not be compared to the modern day champions like Wilson. The Vale Tudo in Brazil had existed long before Lee was even born.
@legkicker01 Boy, you really don't know your stuff.
Sparring with Norris in an exhibition in Long Beach in 1970 after Norris won multiple tourneys including the Professional Middleweight Karate championship and defeated him and as for Inosanto, he won multiple tournaments way before meeting Lee and was already an experienced instructor in shoot wrestling, American Kenpo Karate, Silat and Tang Soo Do.
Sparring Norris at the International in '70? This is the first time I ever heard of such thing. I don't know why Joe Lewis and other prominent champs never talk about that sparring session. I already mentioned Inosanto won a couple of small tourneys, but even he himself admitted he was not a fighter. And all those shoot wrestling and other stuff came long after Lee died.
What's the point of comparing Wilson to someone like Anderson Silva? No one, myself included, said Wilson would beat today's so-and-so champions, or stuff like that.
@legkicker01 I understand english just fine, and how can you say that when chi sao isnt a form of sparring? Chi sao uses kicks as well as punches when you practice it. Mostly punches but in more advanced chi sao kicks are used as well. The thing is youve never done chi sao before. Only seen it, don't bag it before you experience it. I was like you once, and judged chi sao as such. But after practicing it my hole perception of wing chun, chi sao, and bruce lee became different.
Whatever. Still, practicing chi sao, whether it be a form of sparring or not, does not make Bruce Lee a fighter capable of beating proven champions. This is a Don Wilson clip. If you want to talk about Bruce Lee, then go somewhere else.
@legkicker01 i know many muay thai fighters who also took wing chun saying chi sao was beneficial, i came from a kempo and brazilian jiujitsu background. the techniques that helped me excel the most was bruce lee's counter and adaptive techniques. Taking wing chun also helped me learn how to use different punching muscles and dashing muscles. I also took Muay thai for 3 years while taking jeet kune do.
@legkicker01 no he sparred with dan inosanto and wore a blindfold,one time dan actually hit him in the face and it made bruce mad and he hit dan back and broke his jaw.too many people dont know alot about bruce.they think he was just a guy who trained but he was more than that.really a special human.they say well he wasnt a fighter cuz he didnt fight for sport,but its not cuz he was scared,bruce was aginst fighting for sport.
It was Dan Lee, not Dan Inosanto, who accidentaly hit Bruce in the face. And it was not a blindfold sparring. Doesn't mattter. Bruce Lee might have been a serious practitioner of MA, but never a serious fighter. He never belongs to the same league as the proven champions like Norris, Wilson, etc.
@legkicker01 Taking kempo karatehad to much kata and not enough sparring. While taking jeet kune do.. we spar every practice, the peopl i trained with in jeet kune do where way more experienced with sparring than anyone i ever trained with.
If you do sparring in jeet kune do, then it's great for you. Still it does not make Bruce Lee a fighter. The same goes to the late Jigoro Kano, the founder of judo. While Kano was not a figher himself, his judo has produced many fighters for decades.
Can you believe this jack ass fighter challenged Van Damme for $100,000 match!!!! Van Damme brushed it off lol...he could have killed Don if he had fought him. It's funny how Don thought he could take Van Damme haha
faridrr 3 weeks ago
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Trololololol. :)
Stahlvanten 5 days ago
Volker - You have the full fights like the one against Alexio or Cikatic ? Very nice video by the way.
DranzieBooy 1 month ago
Dull boring and scrappy fighter. Over rated by far!
mazdaman1980 2 months ago
@mazdaman1980 that shows me that You don`t understand the fighting style of Don Wilson. What looks so boring is the "web of a spider" most people did run into.
VolkerStockel 2 months ago
@mazdaman1980 I see that you have more wins than him
MrScar665 41 minutes ago
tira puras pedradas ..
Elwero1722 2 months ago
reminds me a little of bruce lee.
Just with that Body kick!
serge2cool 2 months ago
Song name!
XeptoRs 3 months ago
It makes me sick that all the great kickboxers like Don Wilson were never offered the opportunities to make the kind of money traditional boxers make.
NemeanLion 4 months ago
@NemeanLion thats actually a falasy, there is actually not much money in boxing. Gamblers advisory did an interesting video on it a few days ago reporting on an article in yahoo sports. Most boxers are skint only the the top top teir make the money.
oldovergrowmember 3 months ago
worst music ever
MrManmountainrock 6 months ago
I have seen alot of his movies.
TheShinobi32 7 months ago
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Benny "The Jet" Urquidez vs Don "The Dragon" Wilson
Timmyboy505 7 months ago
Benny "The Jet"Urquidez vs Dib "The Dragon" Wilson
Timmyboy505 7 months ago
I am not a "Kickboxer". I am a Kung Fu Black Belt and martial artist who used the sport of Kickboxing to improve my striking skils and my defense against strikes. I was a collegiate wrestler before Kickboxing and was a much better grappler than striker. I walked onto the mat and my second year was 4th in the state of Florida. I only quit to pursue my professional kickboxing career. I LOVE the sport of MMA because it is much safer for competitors dealilng with brain damage. Best Wishes guys.
dragondon 7 months ago 2
@dragondon I though kung fu didnt use belts
CIENEGALOKO13 7 months ago
@dragondon Hi Don, I don't know if you care and probably you don't .
But it's always been dream match of mine seeing you fighting Rob Kaman which could've happened, but that time has come and gone and it just wasn't ideal.
I thought you'd like to hear this interview from Kaman on youtube it's called:
MMA Fans Ask's: Rob Kaman, if he could fight anyone anywhere, what would they be
I think he still thinks highly of you, most of us do and it goes without saying... You're a legend.
Godbless
backstabba101 7 months ago
@dragondon you should fight herschel walker in strikeforce @ a catch weight of 195 perhaps.
hazelenoch 6 months ago
Van Damme turned down $100,000 from Don Wilson to fight him in a kickboxing match in the 80's.
richiemo2000 7 months ago
@richiemo2000 gg
Freestyleartclub 6 months ago
that's funny... by some of the movies I've seen him in, I never would've guessed that he was a great fighter! he certainly doesn't show his skills on-screen, unlike some who look better on-screen than off :)
krononomikon 8 months ago
don was one of the great fright of all time in kickboxing
metallicafanga 8 months ago
never heard of this guy
dennisrayso 9 months ago
the reason don is the best is because he fought the thais 5x and won 4. he fought with their rules and overseas in thailand and hong kong. the 1 loss is controversial. He fought heavier opponents who are great fighters and won: branko cikatic, maurice smith, james warring, dennis alexio, oaktree edwards. he fought everywhere in the world and ducked nobody including taking on theriault in montreal. he fought on concrete floors, mats, in rings,with leg kicks, no leg kicks, thai rules, and throws
jwishome 10 months ago
@jwishome damn i didnt know he beat maurice smith- he s famous from ufc.
Bruceholvenstot 7 months ago
home hero.
hero at home.
yimmiytube 11 months ago
@yimmiytube
The Thai fighters are the home heroes at home as well. Nothing wrong wit it, though.
legkicker01 11 months ago
Jerry Trimble would have murdered Don. Guy's a douche.
1975metalbeast 11 months ago
@1975metalbeast he was the best kickboxer america ever produced behind benny the jet by far,then mo smith
billysue2 9 months ago
@billysue2 I don't know Billy . This is just Your Opinion. Don Wilson is great . No doubt . I rate him higher than Benny Urquidez . But what about Dennis Alexio ? What about Rick Roufus ?
DranzieBooy 8 months ago
DON IS A BEAST. how many people have you seen beat the piss out of Branko Cikatic like that?
sprackles 11 months ago
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Don Wilson vs Samart Prasamit
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golutai 11 months ago
Don Wilson vs Samart Prasamit
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golutai 11 months ago
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golutai 11 months ago
boxers always talk shit to other combat sports, look, boxer got knocked out with his own move!
bassivity 11 months ago
Amazing. Just look at his movies and they're awful, but his matches are incredible!! The man totally knew how to control pace in a real fight but couldn't do a screen match for shit!
WarriorBoy 1 year ago
There was only one Dragon and it wasn't don.
LVSWTZ 1 year ago
@LVSWTZ true, it was a hollywood star instead of a real fighter
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 11 months ago
@giugnhgbvinierngvb89 oh come on!
LVSWTZ 7 months ago
@LVSWTZ there thousands of real fighters that can proove their records. back then everybody knew each other and bruce was probably the man that has ever done more promoting martial arts but not a real fighter.
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 7 months ago
@giugnhgbvinierngvb89 at bruce lee time was popular piont game fight/like cock fight//bruce lee was training like todays most professionals..he was too much for that kind of shit tournament..bruce lee ideas was destroying in real fight..mma or kickboxing are not real fight. bruce lee was real master of real fight..you do not any shit about martial arts shut the fuck up.he was first who mixed up martial arts..at his time everybody was wasting time for katae and for belt..he was laughing..
Freestyleartclub 6 months ago
@Freestyleartclub Answer me some questions if you can please because i have that feeling you are the one who " do not any shit about martial arts " . You speak so desrespectfull of point fighting and katas. So : how was Bruce training and the other ( real ) fighters were not back then ? What his ideas were so Destroying in real fight ? And let take a hypothetical situation : Bruce Lee was 69 kg this like Welterweight you put him and Manny pacquiao in a fight who is gonna win ?
DranzieBooy 1 month ago
@DranzieBooy Bruce lee knew grappling,submission knees,elbows,chocking, kicking,take downs, Many knows punching, Bruce lee has more advantage to destroy him.Bruce lee was training like real man.he was not doing katas after 1968 boxing grappling kicking,running skipping weight lifting was his training routine. why bruce lee was better then others?because when others was doing kata and fake kumite he was training like these days professionals. kid grow up you will understand one day
Freestyleartclub 1 month ago
@Freestyleartclub I am grown up pal and your Parents should teach you good manners when you talk or write to other people, you try to insult somebody everytime you write something thats very inmature maybe You should think about growing up.But back to my questions : Every kid that trains muay thai / pradal serey in southeastasia trains kicks / punches / elbows / takedowns/ kicking on a daily routine. Bokator the Cambodia martial art consists of : (sorry i continue down here)...
DranzieBooy 1 month ago
..kicking/punching/grappling/elbows/takedowns/throws and it was invented hundred of years before Bruce was even born. Many of the traditional karate styles like shorin ryu etc have kicking/punching/throws/takedowns in it . About the training : almost every pro karate fighter in the 60' ( like Wallace , Lewis , Norris ) were doing skipping , weightlifting , conditioning , running . The Judo guys in the 60' were doing sport nutrition at that times already. At the same time ...
DranzieBooy 1 month ago
...Bruce was making movies , smoking pot , drinking and he took drugs also . He lived as a movie star because he was one they were training everyday like pro fighters because they were pro fighters. You still didn't answered my question- what of his ideas were so destroying in a fight ? And about the Manny thing you know that a punch is the easiest , fastest way to hurt somebody ? But ok...lets say Benny Urquidez against Bruce . Take your pick.
DranzieBooy 1 month ago
@giugnhgbvinierngvb89 The problem is that most people can't really see the difference between real and screen fighting . Of course Bruce Lee was passionate , very skilled martial artist with great ideas ahead of his times . But to compare him to pro fighters is just insane. To put him in a professional ring lets say against a guy like Don Wilson is absurd .No one has ever done more to promote himself to a legend. And now he has thousands of psycho fans with no reality clue.
DranzieBooy 1 month ago
Damn sometimes he looks like Bruce Lee,something similar to his fighting mannier
AbraCadabra155 1 year ago
Great
lakhoshams 1 year ago
excellent video want know more about this generation fighters.
lealatitud 1 year ago
he is my roll model
xxblur123xx 1 year ago
loool 7:06 excellent :))
vaggoner 1 year ago
7:11 is my cousin from Greenville NC. We were so proud of him being a light heavy weight kick-boxing champ. He just wouldn't get his life on the right path, or stop hanging around the wrong people. He keeps going to jail & prison. I tried not to give up on him, 'Curtis Cowboy Crandall'. But he gave up on himself. 2010 he's 50 yrs old. I hope that he'll straighten up when he gets out again!
rickames 1 year ago
not hoolywood this is real
drgon is a nice fihgter
mannheim68199 1 year ago
Great video :D ☸ڿڰۣ
smilingdaf 1 year ago
Don wilson was great he was never beaten unlike benny the jet got beaten up by thai fighter and tried to hide it,,
pornpan96 1 year ago
@pornpan96 benny was a great fighter donnie wasnt. loosing a match is no disgrace, avoiding to loos is. I am not aware of benny having lost, could you point out which fight that is? Besides in the lightweight you cant fight the thais ( if anyone could it was benny, rob kaman and raymon...? 2 dutch guys ) they are great just look them up you will be shocked how much power and persistence they have, practically not human.
zencartguru 1 year ago
@zencartguru
Avoiding loss? What the hell are you talking about? Wilson was forced to lose some 8 pounds hours before the fight at the Radjamnern Stadium, and lost the decision. Still he did not turn the loss to a no-contest like Urquidez did. Nor he did claim the fight was an exhibition like Urquidez did. I have no intention to take the credits away from Urquidez, but he lost the decision to the then No.4 rated Thai, Prayout Sittiboonlert in Tokyo. End of story.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 misunderstanding i didnt say wilson did avoid loosing.....i never followed him, nor most others in these kinda competitions. I have always seen them amateurs fighting for money, though things have improved in the last years and competitions seem to be of higher level and more professional. Why i like benny is that he did have technical ability.
anyway check out ramon dekkers, rob kaman. Both were great fighters
zencartguru 1 year ago
@zencartguru
Thanks for your input. I understand what you said. I would prefer Urquidez over Wilson when it comes to technical ability. Wilson had a better record, but Urquidez is a career martial artist with solid traditional training. I am from Japan,and I have been a big fan of Rob Kaman.
legkicker01 1 year ago
I met him and he is a GREAT guy! So cool, kind, understanding, smart and funny! Seriously, one of the nicest guys you will ever meet!
sajmeister 1 year ago
I met him once
Redharry48 1 year ago
don the dragon willson is the great kickboxing of all back in day
metallicafanga 1 year ago
I can't believe Don Willson beat Alexio!
phantom5573 1 year ago
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Liquidcadmus 1 year ago
@Liquidcadmus go and learn about kickboxing history before You write coments like this. Sure Tomaz is a fantastic fighter,and I wish I coulld fight like him ;-) but Don is one of the greatest kickboxer of all time. He fought Alexio, Theriault, Branko...
VolkerStockel 1 year ago 2
@Liquidcadmus I don't know about that. I'm not a Don Wilson fan or anything, but I do know that you have to be really good a lot of times if you make someone else look bad, even if your own technique isn't picture perfect. Muhammad Ali on the downslope of his career, made George Foreman look like an amateur at a time when George Foreman was as feared as Mike Tyson in his prime. It is hard for me to criticize someone who has the guts to step in the ring.
trounds2 1 year ago
Don Wilson was good but not great.
bigkittysmile 1 year ago
@bigkittysmile don beat every one from around the world. EVERYONE! from thais to boxers to legends.
tonyvalente 1 year ago
@tonyvalente look at this video. is his style great or really dominant? no it isn't. most of the guys he beat weren't that great. you think he's great, that's fine. i don't.
bigkittysmile 1 year ago
@bigkittysmile you cant judge a guy on one video, and he beat everyone from his era.
tonyvalente 1 year ago
@tonyvalente yeah but only because most of them sucked
bigkittysmile 1 year ago
@bigkittysmile
Wilson beat two ex-stadium champions from Thailand. Are you saying they sucked too?
legkicker01 1 year ago
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@legkicker01
Norris knew Lee, thus his opinion can be respectable, but you don't know Lee personally, thus your argument is just a whining of a geek. ....aaaaaahh well thats goes for bouth of us then you did not know him personaly ether ....lol
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
to legkicker01
There is somthing you need to know before you blab on. Yes Don the dragon was great no question. But bruce lee fighting only regular guys is stupid to say at least. Chuck noris was 7 time champ back in the day and retired undefited and he even admited that he was no match for bruce lee (lee's student also). Now you do know that chuck noris was actualy great fighter as well. second legkicker01 bruce lee has studdied Submission Grappling.
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
legkicker01 he showed this in Enter the Dragon and Game of Death before he past away. Other wise how do you explane Jeet Kune Do hand traping, stand up and ground grappling ..Where did that come from. And third Bruce Lee always modified his art for street based not sport like mma fighters today. GSP is one of my most fav MMA fighters, but even he will tell you he never got into a street fight. So what you will say he would lose in a street fight?
it all depends on how you apply what you learnd
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
and forth street fighters can't do best in the ring because they are used to those rules ...and i belive most (not all) mma fighters would do shity on the streets because they are not used to those rules. So there and for Don and Lee were not even same type of fighter .... And Bruce Lee would not be a legend today if he was just good actor.
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
but hell lets even say Chuck noris was just joking ... Chuck noris even knows Bruce was a great fighter .... and thats all i got to say.
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Norris knew Lee, thus his opinion can be respectable, but you don't know Lee personally, thus your argument is just a whining of a geek.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
ahhhh well you did not know lee personaly ether ...sooooo your whining geek too?
second you obviously cant be any type of real martial artist ...you might be some kind of simple judoka or karateka at best ...if that ...but there were always street fighters and ring fighters ... you are one of those guys that would eat your words if they asked you about Royce Gracie .. the guy never compeated in turnaments and never realy won anything
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
so ppl like you would be all smart about it and know it all would say "what Royce pfff that kid is going to get killed in that cage .. he has not compeated or won anything" and bam ...ppl like you were proven so wrong ..aaand if you listen to Gracies interviews they took part in a lot of street fights .. soooo what they are street thugs ...aaaah no ... there is a reason that some martial arts are sport and some never will be
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@legkicker
so just remeber lol .."Willing is not enough; we must do. Knowing is not enough; we must apply."
but on serious note: so again it does not matter what tournament you enter or compeat or style you study cuz in the end its not what or how much you know but how you apply what you have learned ...write that down
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
You don't do anything at all, and certainly not applying either. It seems like training is the most neglected phase among Geek Kune Do cults, too much time is given to the meaningless discussions of how great BL was, and too little to the development of the individual for participation.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
ahhh hah actualy i do i have done karate, muay thai, boxing, jiu jitsu and some kali and OH yes and JEET KUNE DO and its pathetic when i hear ppl like you ... because at the end of the day BL acomplished more in last few years then you will in life time. And you can check how much discussion i do ...i replied to you thats all cuz i was tired of your stupidity. and every time i have proved my point you went around trying to prove a nother cuz cant cope that i'm right
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Based on the way you talk about BL and others, it is hard to believe that you actually studied the arts. What's the point of comparing BL with me? I never said I'm better than him or has lot more to offer, things like that. I just merely pointed out he was not a fighter, period. Proven your points? What point? The only thing you've proven so far is that you are just another Geek Kune Do expert who cannot distinguish realities from fantasies.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
Ever since i could walk i remember watching BL movies in Europe and ever since i was a boy i loved martial arts ..Yes he influenced me. So soon as i had the chance i took martial arts.
i'm comparing BL against you cuz you shure talk a lot of shit like you can walk it also ..But more so cuz what are you mid 30s and your acting like 10year old.
And also what make you better then those geek kune do guys hmm they diss per say Don you Diss them and that makes you better ?? lol
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
Its obvious as day light you are no martial artest ..and if are one then you got no etiquette ...aaaand i might have given you more credid then you deserve.
For i'm sure in person i could tach you a lot about martial arts "and fighting on the streets"... lol i can gerantee you that. And i guess your just a misrable man that wishes he had some skills or at least as much as i guess as you put it geek kune do "geeks" do .... o and bruce lee was always a fighter dont forget that
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
You should not talk about etiquette since you don't have any of it. Just look at the way talk your nonsense of the BL's so-called greatness here, a Don Wilson video. Are you saying this is a good example of etiquette? You have nothing to teach me about martial arts either since you don't know such thing in the first place. Real martial arts practitioners do not bring unrelated and unnecessary topics to waste people's time.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
You've been action like a 10 year old kid who believes Batman and Superman really exist.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Unlike you and other BL geeks, I've never talked ill of champs like Royce Gracie. It is obvious to anyone that it is almost always the BL geeks who love to start talking about BL anytime a new champion emerges, and talk endlessly about how BL would've beaten those champs, etc. BL is gone and that type of meaningless discussions won't do any good to martial artists.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
and Royce Gracie was just a simple example i used to show how ignorant you are ...there is many martial artists out there that dont wish to display there skills in sport like manor for there martial skill was never sport... and i have not said BL would beat RG or who ever did i? i mearly stated that he was great and sure there might be geek kune do geeks out there but your def among them
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
I know there are many people out there who don't wish to display their skills in competition, but the majority of them at least never try to boast their so-called fighting skills either. They don't boast their so-called greatness either. And this is a Don Wilson clip. It doesn't have to do anything with how great BL was. If you want to discuss that, then do it somewhere else.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
I was not the one saying Don sucks, or don this, or don that ok .ppl will always post good, bad, and dumb things its internet.
if some one thinks S Seagal can beat Don then great thats there opinion ... but i'll only respect that opinion if there is some legit facts ... If i dont respect it then i'll egnore it. But i dont go out of my way to diss other fighters that have passed or not know too much about them and try to look smart by proving somthing fictional such as your self
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Why don't you go back to BL geekdom to continue the endless discussion of how great BL was?
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
right haha .. thats exactly what i'll do legkicker01
ignorance or imaturity is very ronchy cologne
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
People with the right mind know you are the inmature one.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
well ppl can read these comments and can decide who is more inmature right.
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Don't worry. I am more popular and and my opinions have been very respected compared to yours.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
I don't have to know BL personally at all. What is so obvious is that there is no way for us to verify how good Lee actually was. There is no way for us to make objective evaluation of him being a fighter. On the other hand, champs like Royce Gracie have proven themselves and there is no question about their fighting abilities.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
well take just simple things like no one at the time was faster .. his punch was more powerful then karates traditional punch he combined diferent foot work and styles to make it more efective (for street ...he was staying away of making it into a sport)... his philosophy was even highly looked up on by other great masters ...some in roled to be tought by BL ...soooo if he was as bad as you make it out to be then no martial artist would give him that respect
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
How come are you so sure about no one was faster than him back then? There must've been someone who was just as fast as or even faster than him. Staying away of making it into a sport? Then, why did Lee approach some of the top karate champions in the US? Why did he want to serve as their coach if he didn't like the sport?
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
I'm stating things i know against things you know thats all, except i'm not buyest, imature about it ...or even against some facts. Besides executing one punch really fast and like he did various attacks very fast is two diferent things. And he did not approach some of the top champions he was invited to do a seminar (he was known in hong kong before states right) and like i said even common sence and logic behind BL Phylosophy was realy smart
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
so most good fighters must have bin smart (example somthing simple as this could help sport, have your strongest wepon closest to your opponent. And for street instead of closing in for a punch, you dont close in and use a straight kick to the knee cap.) and this is just somthing simple simple.
besides real martial artist went to be tought by BL to find there own way of expreasing there style
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Enough of BL fantasy. This is a Don Wilson clip. If you want to talk about how great BL was, then do it in somewhere else.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
fair enough
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Fine. Don't come back here to spit all those how-great-BL-was nonsense.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01
dont worry i wont i stated what i need to and thats that.
AleksWarrior 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
There is no such thing as street fighters. You can be either a street thug or an ordinary citizen who had to defend themselves on the street. It is obvious that you are a geek type who has never been physical in his life time. Because of people like you, the Bruce Lee fans have widely regarded as Geek Kune Do experts.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
What he did in his movies are just choreography.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@AleksWarrior
Lee studied grappling, and so what? Did he fight anyone with it? The answer is no. Chuck Norris is just doing his lip service. He believes it's not right to speak ill of someone who no longer can defend himself.
legkicker01 1 year ago
to legkicker01 there will never be another bruce lee.... bruce lee was amazing and defined martial arts in the last 20th century. still don wilson has done it justice.
brisbanetim 1 year ago 2
That squitggy sound made the inside of my butt itchy.
IS IT NORMAL FOR THE INSIDE OF YOUR BUTT TO GET ITCHY?
I experienced 9 minutes of itchy butt.
DancingSpiderman 1 year ago
Don has some nice kicks in this video,
Thanks Don The Dragon!
politicalrage 1 year ago
Ciekawe czemu nie pochwalili się jak Wilson dostał wpierdol od Marka Piotrowskiego w walce o tytuł mistrza świata?;)
terrormachine86 1 year ago
Wow. Don Wilson fought Art Jimmerson.
junon 1 year ago
Nice right punch check out some of my stuff.
JimHolland8 1 year ago
don fought a bunch of guys who suck,and he beat a boxer?!wow he beat a guy with a limited offense.thats like fighting mma and saying u can only use ur fist. don was good but not that good
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
They didn't suck at all. In fact, they were whole lot better than Bruce Lee and the sick practitiners of Geek Kune Do.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 u dont know much about fighting do u?
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
Yes! I definitely know about fighting lot more than a geek like you. But I never pretend to know about fighting more than proven champions. Since you say guys Wison beat suck, I am sure you do know about fighting lot more than him, right?
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 now ur starting to make sense,,,thank god
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
@legkicker01 yes the guys that beat wilson suck ass,,that makes wilson an ass sucker too.
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
I strongly encourage you to see a psychiatrist. Remember, you are just another world champion in keyboard fighting even though you want to believe you are some kind of badass.
legkicker01 1 year ago
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THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
bruce lee never got a black belt from any school..still one of the greats
DennisHeath68 1 year ago
the music makes me wanna kick ppl
marokkopude 1 year ago
this man is juast a legend!
I really enjoyed to train with him ... thanks a lot "dragon" ;-)
piimal3 1 year ago
bruce lee would kick dons ass,,he would kill him with his bare hands
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
2WW34. Is that you?
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 what is 2ww34?im philip,have we met?
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
No, I just thought you were the 2WW34 with the different user account. Sorry about the mistake.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 If you're gonna make up statements and say they're true then it's obviously no good trying to reason with you. Furthermore,you still haven't explained the Dana White statement that I mentioned....
annnan 1 year ago
What's the big deal with the Dana White comment? He is a human just like us, and he too occasionally makes mistake. Maybe he was right about Lee being the father of MMA, but only in the US.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 that statement is full of shit. The reason MMA is big is because of JKD. He was the first to display or use the 4 oz gloves in sparring. Which is currently used in MMA today. Even Bas Ruten, and Anderson silva said they got started because of bruce lee.
Hawaiianstylz 1 year ago
It is you who is full of shit. Bruce Lee's sparring session had little resemblance to the contemporary MMA sparring. The adoption of 4 oz gloves was the result of the political pressure from the athletic commissions. Prior to that, bareknucle was the option for the UFC and Brazilian vale tude competition. Like Rutten, Maurice Smith too got involved in MA because of Lee, but he has never given Lee the credit as a legitimate fighter.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 and where did bruce fight? on the street. thats right bare fist. your still the fool.
Hawaiianstylz 1 year ago
On the street, and against who? I too fought on the street for more than a couple of times, but at least I am smart enough to understand I am absolutely no match against trained and proven champions.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 u still have a "punchers chance" it takes more than knowing techniques to know how to fight. anyone can lose a fight even proven champs.u could train all ur life and still lose to someone who never stepped foot in a dojo. look at brock lesnar,he comes from wwe?no one thought he could make it in the ufc against proven fighters.but guess what? now hes the ufc champ?thats crazy? right? not really.
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
Yes! Anyone can lose, including proven champs. We all know that. Still it doesn't make Bruce Lee a fighter. I do not intend to discredit Brock Lesnar, but I think the pool of the talents in his weight division is quite poor compared to other weight classes. Those who make the big deal of Bruce Lee's so-called streetfighting prowess don't talk aout "punchers chance."
legkicker01 1 year ago
@THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY
And why do you think that? Because Lee was strong in his movies?
Bruce Lee was strong, no doubt, but don't forget that Don was a real fighter. He will always be remembered as a great champion.
ToshiroMifuneSamurai 1 year ago
@ToshiroMifuneSamurai bruce regularly sparred with a blind fold.could don?no!u say don was a real fighter but he fought for sport where there are rules,bruce trained for a real anything goes situation,,,whos the "real fighter"?
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
@THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY Who's the real fighter? Obviously it's Don. You make it look like Bruce Lee was fighting in the streets everyday. Ok, he may have trained for real situations, but that doesn't make him a better fighter than Don 'The Dragon' Wilson.
Anyway, we'll never know who would win. I respect both of them.
ToshiroMifuneSamurai 1 year ago
I could not agree more.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@ToshiroMifuneSamurai the thing is they never fought, and there both from different era's you can't compare them. And everyone knows bruce lee. I know a lot of people who don't know who don the dragon wilson is. Everyone knows about bruce lee. Why? If it wasn't for bruce lee martial arts would not of been as popular as it now is. Bruce lee put martial arts on the map and paved the way for all these discussions people have point and period.
HawaiianAnimator 1 year ago
You shouldn't compare apple to orange. It is true Bruce Lee might have been responsible for the worldwide popularity of martial arts, but it doesn't make him a fighter who can defeat proven champions. Remember Bruce Lee gained his fame with his film works, not for his so-called streetfighting prowess. Lee was totally unproven as a legitimate fighter.
legkicker01 1 year ago
Practicing chi sao with blind fold can hardly be regarded as a form of sparring. Lee might have trained for self-defense situation, but he refused to display his skill against a live opponent even just a one time. He was just the typical Chinese MA practitioner, who hated to lose face by losing to someone. It is also the misconception that competitors can only fight within rules. There have been so many champions, top rated fighters who successfully defended themselves on the street.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 Fist of Fury was shot in Thai Land where he was challenged by many Muay thai fighters. The Films were never released cause bruce was smart. he never wanted anyone studying his fighting style, so he destroyed the film of him fighting actual martial artist extras. And how do you know that practicing Chi Sao doesnt work? Thats a totally blind, and opinionated statement. Even the father of american Tae Kwon Do Jun Ree said that the last person he wanted to fight was Bruce lee.
HawaiianAnimator 1 year ago
The films were never release because there was no such fight in the first place. Chi sao and similar exercises are just exercise,not sparring. Jhoon Rhee, just like Bruce, was more of coach, rather than a fighter. But unlike Lee, mr. Rhee had produced many proven champions.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 Chi sao is a great exercise for parry blocking, trapping and close counter work out. Just because bruce lee showed chi sao does not mean he didn't spar. One of Bruce Lee's core concepts is that Physical sparring without pads is the best way to practice. He also sparred with pads as well, and believed that a belt is only good to hold up your pants. When bruce lee fought people he didnt want to fight in the ring. Ring you use gloves, bruce lee hardened himself for a reason.
kilala8 1 year ago
Do you understand English? I never said chi sao isn't useful. It is true we use gloves in the ring, but it doesn't make ring fighters less capable on the street. The great Jack Dempsey managed to knock out two thugs who tried to rob in his restaurant. And Dempsey was over 70 years old and bare knucled.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 o i get it,u think ur a fighter cuz u use gloves?and lee wasnt a fighter cuz he didnt fight for sport,,he fought in real fights,where there were no rules.whos the real fighter?fighting means anything goes.r u saying he never got into a fight?i think u mean to say that he wastn a sport fighter.yes thats true.but he was a born fighter.he has a fighting spirit.read his wikipedia fight history
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
Bruce Lee might have fought a few bums on the street, but it doesn't make him a fighter capable of beating proven champions. Even Bass Rutten, who both fought in the ring and on the street, said fighting untrained people on the street cannot be compared to ring fighting with trained warriors.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 Bruce Lee was your so-called "unproven fighter" who defeated Dan Inosanto AND Chuck Norris, who were both at the time national fighting champions, in addition to winning local boxing competitions in North America and defeating various martial artists... UFC president Dana White has went on the record saying that " Bruce Lee is the father of MMA and is arguably modern day's best martial artist"... This proof enough??!!
annnan 1 year ago
When was the last time Lee defeated Norris? You must have watched Return of the Dragon too many times. Inosanto? He won a couple of local point tourneys. Still, fighting has evolved dramatically in the last couple decades. Lee simply could not be compared to the modern day champions like Wilson. The Vale Tudo in Brazil had existed long before Lee was even born.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 Boy, you really don't know your stuff.
Sparring with Norris in an exhibition in Long Beach in 1970 after Norris won multiple tourneys including the Professional Middleweight Karate championship and defeated him and as for Inosanto, he won multiple tournaments way before meeting Lee and was already an experienced instructor in shoot wrestling, American Kenpo Karate, Silat and Tang Soo Do.
annnan 1 year ago
Sparring Norris at the International in '70? This is the first time I ever heard of such thing. I don't know why Joe Lewis and other prominent champs never talk about that sparring session. I already mentioned Inosanto won a couple of small tourneys, but even he himself admitted he was not a fighter. And all those shoot wrestling and other stuff came long after Lee died.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 wilson is not a modern day champion,anderson silva is and wilson would get owned by silva.
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
What's the point of comparing Wilson to someone like Anderson Silva? No one, myself included, said Wilson would beat today's so-and-so champions, or stuff like that.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 I understand english just fine, and how can you say that when chi sao isnt a form of sparring? Chi sao uses kicks as well as punches when you practice it. Mostly punches but in more advanced chi sao kicks are used as well. The thing is youve never done chi sao before. Only seen it, don't bag it before you experience it. I was like you once, and judged chi sao as such. But after practicing it my hole perception of wing chun, chi sao, and bruce lee became different.
HawaiianAnimator 1 year ago
Whatever. Still, practicing chi sao, whether it be a form of sparring or not, does not make Bruce Lee a fighter capable of beating proven champions. This is a Don Wilson clip. If you want to talk about Bruce Lee, then go somewhere else.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 i know many muay thai fighters who also took wing chun saying chi sao was beneficial, i came from a kempo and brazilian jiujitsu background. the techniques that helped me excel the most was bruce lee's counter and adaptive techniques. Taking wing chun also helped me learn how to use different punching muscles and dashing muscles. I also took Muay thai for 3 years while taking jeet kune do.
HawaiianAnimator 1 year ago
I never put down wing chun or any style. I just merely pointed out that Bruce Lee was not a fighter.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 no he sparred with dan inosanto and wore a blindfold,one time dan actually hit him in the face and it made bruce mad and he hit dan back and broke his jaw.too many people dont know alot about bruce.they think he was just a guy who trained but he was more than that.really a special human.they say well he wasnt a fighter cuz he didnt fight for sport,but its not cuz he was scared,bruce was aginst fighting for sport.
THACREAMOFSUMYUNGGUY 1 year ago
It was Dan Lee, not Dan Inosanto, who accidentaly hit Bruce in the face. And it was not a blindfold sparring. Doesn't mattter. Bruce Lee might have been a serious practitioner of MA, but never a serious fighter. He never belongs to the same league as the proven champions like Norris, Wilson, etc.
legkicker01 1 year ago
@legkicker01 Taking kempo karatehad to much kata and not enough sparring. While taking jeet kune do.. we spar every practice, the peopl i trained with in jeet kune do where way more experienced with sparring than anyone i ever trained with.
HawaiianAnimator 1 year ago
If you do sparring in jeet kune do, then it's great for you. Still it does not make Bruce Lee a fighter. The same goes to the late Jigoro Kano, the founder of judo. While Kano was not a figher himself, his judo has produced many fighters for decades.
legkicker01 1 year ago