Kirk Franklin and Donnie McClurkin - Transparencies

[SylviaNC20]

But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment. 32 Nevertheless, when we are judged in this way by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be finally condemned with the world.

[GoddessIsIs999]

GOOGLE SEARCH: RELIGION IS A MENTAL ILLNESS.

[kidzonly3]

This is hilarious I approve

[drummerofalltime]

yes people need to here thisss

[studmuscle84]

God desires his people to be pure. He calls us to live holy lives, set apart for his glory. 1 Peter 1:16 restates Leviticus 11:44: "Be holy, because I am holy." (NIV) If we ignore blatant sinfulness within the body of Christ, then we fail to honor the Lord's call to be holy and live for his glory.

[Psalms11817]

There are many people who feel like President Obama, that everyone deserves respect which is right. The Bible is against homosexuality but it is also against adultry, lying, stealing, porn, gossiping, murder just to name a few. There are no big sins and little sins in God's eyes they are all the same. But because He knows us and loves us, He can deliver us out of them all, like Pastor Donnie from homosexuality & Pastor Kirk from porn. Lets let this video do what it was meant to do, ENCOURAGE

[jollysincere]

@Psalms11817 Child please! stop being a fool..these 2 frauds are just trying to exploit this for more Fame. Kirk and Donnie are both HOMOSEXUALS! using the Lord to exploit weak minded people. Trust me honey, God would not call 2 attention seekers like these 2 phony men.

[ocbfdog]

@jollysincere Do you have evidence that their deliverance is false? I would venture to say no. You are probably just another "chitlin' circuit" singer jealous of where God has taken them. The farthest you'll get in the industry is watching "Celebration of Gospel." You and your pastor can play in traffic.

[jollysincere]

@ocbfdog All the evidence i need is everytime these phonies open their mouth! I am a 76 year old great-grandmother!,,& its laughable that U would say i'm jealous of these FAKES!.And remember that when U C A person making gains,,,It's not always God that is taking them! of course your youth wouldn't allow U 2 understand that. & as far as gospel, child there hasn't been REAL GOSPEL since 1960! this mess these folks R doing today, don't move me in the least bit! U R just mesmerized by FAME!

[ocbfdog]

@jollysincere Well, Madam CJ Walker, I hate to bust your bubble, but James Cleveland was the first fag in Gospel music. All of the "real" gospel artists are either dead, or breaking their necks to get in the studio with the likes of Kirk and Donnie.

[jollysincere]

@ocbfdog Baby,,,hahaha. U couldn't burst my bubble if U were standing next 2 me with a 12 foot needle! FYI!! James Cleveland was not! the 1st Gospel Queen! Gospel had Queens wall to wall since the damn 1930s!!!!! "Darling James" just became one of the famous "Later Day Queens" Now i must correct you, there aren't anymore "REAL" gospel artist. Just as Donnie & Kirk are true gospel artist..just because U call Kool-aid Beer,,,doesn't make it BEER!!! 1960 was probaly when Real Gospel DIED!~

[ocbfdog]

@jollysincere Ima make this quick, because you might sneeze and die. Cleveland died of AIDS. And the fact that Gospel had fags since the 1930's dispels the notion that the '60's had the most integrity. There are alot of great gospel artists now. They just don't sing stupid songs like "Sending up my timber" and "Old Ship of Zion". And furthermore, the Kool-Aid and beer metaphor is garbage. But, I forgot you saw Jesus turn water into wine in person. U probably still have a bottle.

[jollysincere]

@ocbfdog hahahaha...i gotta admit, your rather funny,,dumb as hell,but still funny, yeah, i could sneeze & die, & U could get bit by a snake,,so what? we all gotta go sometime & someway. hehehe, u damn fool. i don't know if the 50s & 60s had the most integrity, but they sure had the Most talent! regardless of what they were singing. But, of course U don't know a thing about TALENT! & yes, JESUS, is a personal friend of mine, he keeps me "Near the Cross" seriously? U do C how foolish U apear?

[ocbfdog]

@jollysincere Since you won't stop soaking up Social Security. Ur useless to the church, and to society, so this is probably making your day. The fifties and sixties are gone(like you should be), and they are not coming back. The fact remains that whatever indiscretions that exist in Gospel came from that era. Ya'll are to blame for everything wrong with the church and the industry.  And it's almost 10:00, shouldn't you, and everyone in the nursing home, be sleep. Make some grits...

[jollysincere]

@ocbfdog Damn right i get social security! hell, i worked long enough for it. You just hope U live long enough to get it too!! but i kinda of doubt it. Never b4, has there been so many young folks dying in all manner of ways. Yes the 50s & 60s R gone, if only U young folk could have held on to some of the virtues from that ERA, maybe U wouldn't be in the shape your in today,,,,which is BAD! Todays standards have been lowered so low, including the church. at age 76, i must go for my morning swin.

[2012lavender]

@jollysincere I'm 29 years old and I understand everything you are saying. These men are fake. at 6:06 Donnie said, there was a moment where they( he and kirk) had to pretend to be right , when everything they did was wrong. So He admits that he was deceiving the church into believing, that What he was doing was God's work, when he knew he was doing wrong.

[jollysincere]

@2012lavender There is nothing more that disturbs me like a flaming hypocrite! Donnie & Kirk, should both just shut the hell up, both R liars in the first degree. Both R heavily addicted to fame. both will exploit anything for a dose of more attention & fame. Sadly todays churches are filled with dumb weak minded people that R ripe for being used & misled by the likes of these 2 men. The Bible warns us of these kinds of charlatans that will deceive many.

[bubbajk26]

Kirk is an inspiration! 

[shieldsff]

since Pres. Obama is so outraged over "faux" homophobia in [the] Black community & Black churches, why does he so ardently seek and assume their electoral support on every opportunity ? Since it outrages him so, perhaps in order to allow him to maintain his character & integrity, the "Black Community" should offer it's objectionable, homophobic support to a more reasonable and balanced candidate come 2012- just a very short time from now ! Is there any other group he snubs more than Blacks ??

[strictlyprickly]

Absolutely excellent! These men speak from the heart: it really moved me.

[BennyBrickzBlonco]

Donnie Is One Of The Best I Don't Care What Nobody Say..R.E.S.P.E.C.T To Kirk Too.

[chrisney62]

very powerful well said just tells us we need to pray for these warriors as they move for the Lord.

[wcta0608]

LOL. While folks are trying to clown these guys, they are helping somebody who is struggling with the same thing.

[amorsota94]

WOW!!!...They are keeping it real....

[Vortex4001]

Intense!

[pat4jesus32]

God Bless you kirk franklin i love your music it has bless me when you song too the Lord... amen

[thaprinceT]

AMEN

[Topg1]

This testimony gives me much encouragement.

[bigjr195]

Ok, I know that the world steals our music, and God has the ONLY power to create, while Satan perverts it. My biggest problem is using secular music to minister. The Declaration is Kenny Loggins this is it. Listen to them together and judge for yourself. Smokie Norful, "Run to You," was sung by Whitney Houston in The Bodyguard. And Mary Mary "Heaven" has the same music as "Want ads." by the honey cone. If artists take more time to slow down and listen to God, they won't copy others.

[nafunyarl888]

THANK YOU!!!

[leslied81]

Lets just examine of the growth that has taken place in this man....praise God he is coming into a great revelation. Nobody got it over night guys....he is getting JUST LIKE THE REST OF US! If any of us were there we would be caught up in a whirlwind like Elijah....

Im excited about this....

[LittleMusicfreack]

Ooh God, it's very heart to be in the world, but not of...

Ooh god, help us, to not represent ourself, but You..

Amen

[thdfl07]

Does anyone have the part of this program in which Fred Hammond was singing part of When We Praise? Man I almost cried my heart out that night when he sang.

[GsShay]

That is a good question. I have been looking for that part forever.

[KBCREW]

Yes Lord! I try to keep to myself and be saved around my friends! its tough!

[Trininow526]

People need to realize that the kingdon of God is so gigantic that we need different types of praise to reach all areas of sinners. Traditional is good but there are more ways to praise God. God is using people for a reason. Realize that its not about us. All things are for God to get the glory.

[nafunyarl888]

Thats why we dont need to be worrying abot 'different ways' to 'reach' people. Its Gods way not our 'different' ways. What happened to just praying and seeking Gods will and not our own. Kirk compromises by producing songs with secular artisits who dont glorigy jesus Christ. What happened to be in the world but not of the world. Its not about befriending sinners-its about 'teaching' as matthew 28:19 says and leaving the rest to Gods spirit to 'draw' men-only he can do that. God bless

[okebaram]

Kirk's singers and co-artists are 100% all Spirit-filled and baptized, proclaiming-Jesus Christians, and it has been that way for very many years. Please speak the truth when claiming to be saved. Even in the very old past when he used to work with secular but church-going artists, your judgement would still have been seen by God as pure false humility. Pray about stuff before passing arrogant judgment. We all have a tendency to be arrogant after we are saved, but see it as spiritual, so ask God

[nafunyarl888]

Sorry but there is huge compromise in 'secular but church going artists'. There is no arrogance and there is no judgement-did I draw any conclusions on kirk as a result of his actions? No. James 4:4. In no disrespect to you whatsoever but please do not say kirks singers are '100% spirit-filled' because you dont know their ins and outs-everybody sins-so the spirit of God aint where sin is (in somebody). When your sold out for Christ, the world HATETH you-so if you try to suit them...

[okebaram]

Look, I'm not going to argue with yu over pointless stuff. Luckily I have an intimate relationship with God and I know what I am saying because I try to let Him reveal instead of leaning on my own understanding. The thing I want to say to you is even if you want to condemn him for using secular artists, which I didn't agree with myself, he stopped doing that a long time. Research his current singers. They're all gospel artists who seem sold-out. And he only works with other gospel artists too.

[nafunyarl888]

Fair enough-I didnt want to argue either-my original comment was just a point to challenge this 'reaching' idea. Im not condeming him-because there is 'now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus' but believe me, there is more to the gospel music industry in general than is known from the 'outside'. You come across as a nice guy-I wont go any deeper upset your spirit but I will say this-keep seeking God. God bless

[bigjr195]

Ok, he's not using secular artists. Thats great, but what about remixing the secular songs into Christian ones? The bible tells us to be separate and to be Holy, AND to sing a NEW song. I seriously believe that the same way that David could play his music to take the demons off of a king, why can't music be played to put demons ON people? As a musician, I went to secular concerts and gigs. I saw the reaction of people to certain secular songs, THAT'S A SPIRIT WITH NO RIGHTS IN THE CHURCH!!!

[okebaram]

I reall have no insterest in arguing about this womderful men of God further. But Kirk does not re-mix circular songs to make His music. If anything, the secular industry steals gospel music. And God is the author of all music styles and genres, not Satan. If they are used to praise Him and glorify Him, there is no such thing as a demonic attachment to praise because the music is of a certain God-created tune. Besides, the majority of Kirk's songs are contemporary gospel style not secular styles

[muzikmind19]

kirk and donnie are awesome!

[anointed1forever]

Two awesome men of God; keepin' it real. They fell down but they got up! Bless the name of Jesus!!!

[luisgeronimo]

We cannot judge them, neither God does cause the have confessed their sin. They could keep that with them but shared their bad experience with us. Even this is terrible we learned we have to confess our sins to God and we´ll be saved.

[grantbanks06]

That bitch ass nigga donnie looks like he's attracted to kirk.

[GsShay]

You need to stop that!

[simone56]

Every idol word will be judged...

[tallblkcute]

yall is sum real judgemental people.these two guys are doing what the body of christ needs,keeping it real...yes donnie USED TO BE HOMOSEXUAL and i believe him when he says that God delivered.God delivered me from that same spirit.kirk too has a testimony but because the church has gotten into hidding sin and putting on a front you don't know how to handle it when folks tell the truth.we overcome by the blood of the lamb &the word of our testimony.

[simone56]

Thank you! WE HAVE ALL SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT. Now I wonder what would be in everyone's closet who is judging Brother Kirk and Donnie right now.... it wouldn't be pretty.

[LORDFAMOUSTAR]

@tallblkcute DONNIE SAID ,SEXUALITY,NOT HOMESEXUAL?

[olaray50]

@tallblkcute ...I am really glad that I got the opportunity to hear Kirk express himself about being real

[slg2484]

@tallblkcute PREACH!

[whatigot2say]

@tallblkcute used to be?? haaa haaa he still likes men. that aint changed . he's saved and gay like so many other choir members and other gospel musicians . So are these 2 boy friends?

[RobTheInterpreter]

@tallblkcute PRAY FOR ME I AM STUCK IN IT. I FEEL LIKE IM CLOSE TO A BREAKTHROUGH BUT IM NOT FULLY THERE. I BELIEVE THE LORD CAN HELP ME. I FEEL THAT IF I HAVE A HEART TO LIVE FOR GOD. HE WILL HELP ME!

[SuperKaykay1986]

@tallblkcute AMEN TELL IT!!!

[ebppa]

i hope kirk back's up what he says here in the future. i didn't even buy the last album. unfortunately his music has become too influenced by the secular (sampling; covers et al) the purpose of gospel music is for God to enjoy it. i think we've changed the focus where it s/b centered at-on Christ. bring it back!

[vancoscellos]

he's a FAKE! what did you expect? these are 2 homosexual men pulling the wool over millions of blind stupid imbeciles!

[CHUCHBOI25]

and u have da rite 2 judge. Dis is y ppl rn't cumin 2 church because ppl feel as tho dat dey will b judge. Nd a homosexual is a spirt on a man......not livin da lifestyle rebukes dat spirit. Plz stop judge and I pray blessin 4 u.

[vancoscellos]

learn how to properly write! your writing and spelling is just awful!

[maurisheldon]

wow these men have had to go through things in life just like anybody else. we overcome by the power of our testimonies.

[simone56]

Many accusations without proper proof. God forgive them they don't know what they are doing.

[GsShay]

Amen.

[simone56]

I don't agree. You may not like his style of music, but best believe God is in it.

Are you listening to the message, or do the beats distract you cause it doesn't "sound" like gospel music... tradition will kill evangelism.

[magicalfingers33]

I agree with you The other thing is this people that talk about kirk usualy dont have his records if you get the whole album there is a great balence he always has some traditional and contemporary and urban he is always balenced people dont know what they are talking about.

[yancylynp]

praise the lord for realness!!!!!!!!

[aynota]

Now this is what i call keepin' it real! great post

[GsShay]

Thank you for posting this. This was one of my favorite worship services on TBN. Thnak you once again for posting this. God bless you.