i live in South Africa i love Mozart. He is the best composer of the 18th century according to my opinion. If i can get anyone who can tell me what kind of Opera music this is(the soprano in combination with the cello is the best i love it)
I see the Recordare as the acid test in Mozart's Requiem. I'm sure it is pretty difficult to get right. 1:28ish... Se - 'di' - sti Las-sus... needs a poco cresc on the second syllable . I can't fault the Baritone and I felt rather taken back by the strange enunciation of the section starting with Ingemisco 'tamquam reus.' Again, it seems Gardiner is preoccupied with odd Stacatto effects. I enjoyed the performance though.
This poem, called a Sequence in Church use, was written by a Franciscan friar, Fra Tommaso di Celano, who also wrote an official life of St. Francis of Assisi in the 13th century.
I don't what's the problem with the tempo of the requiem. With Gardiner's Interpretation it sounds more exciting, it has more spirit. Especially the heavy, the mighty parts (such as the dies irae or the confutatis) sound much better than for example with Marriner. And if the less exciting parts are performed faster, it just makes the audience more excited. My opinion.
Period performances of Baroque music tend to have faster tempi than others. My understanding is that this is because there is evidence that, historically, the pieces would have been performed faster. At some point - during the Romantic period, I think - it became fashionable to slow the tempos, enlarge the choirs, and milk the piece for dramatic impact ... I am not an expert in music history but this is what I have read. Mozart was after the Baroque period, but before the Romantic.
@Dodo251 excuse me? well, certainly i cannot blame you for saying that i am a gook, or whatever that is. well come to think of it, i do believe tempo in mozart's era is rather slow and steady, instead of breath-taking fast paced as this. do you think with this tempo, the words could resonate their meaning? pardon me for being superficial, what is your qualification in music studies? i know i have none. so, do explain, rather than calling one a mere gook.
@Dodo251 well then, looks like we've different sources of this. well, pardon me too because i prefer marriner (i can't really remember the spelling) as his style is rather slower. then we've nothing to debate on anymore, since we have fixed our minds on these people :)
@rhonin93 I don't actually know which one I prefer, Marriner did a brilliant job on Amadeus so I can't make up my mind. Sorry for the gook thing, I thought you were just trolling.
@Dodo251 meh, i dont "troll" on classical music. ever. i stated that merely because this whole requiem is faster than the ones i have in my mp3 - marriner's probably. and yes, amadeus. now i know who conducted those pieces there. :)
@rhonin93 I love Gardiner's tempi. I've heard ghastly slow and it just doesn't fit - at least for me. Gardiner's a Baroque specialist. I doubt he'd create a video such as this without doing a great deal of research. Even all of his performers have their parts memorized (well, except for the orchestra :) )
@Elainelps0421 for me, it is rather too fast. well, music is just too subjective to debate. all these are personal preferences. however, gardiner's tempo on dies irae is better than marriner's. really accurate and angry.
The execution in this performance is, for all intents and purpose, as close to flawless as it gets. What a gorgeous sound - great balance between the soloists and the orchestra as well; they stay out of each others' way quite nicely.
What a tragedy that they were all compelled to perform this at 120% speed. It almost ruins the whole deal. Not quite, but almost.
For some reason, I have become obsessed with watching these videos simply because I LOVE to hear the mezzo-soprano (Ann Sofie Von Otter) - Oh yes; I know who she is. Her in the entry of the soloists is perfect. I love hearing this woman!!!!! Plus, one of the greatest musical compositions ever composed... win win! T_T
Am I the only person who finds this way too fast? I know most performances on the Tube are around this speed, but it seems to trash the serenity and beauty of the piece. It should be about three quarters of this tempo IMO.
il be singing this requiem mass tomorrow as the tenor soloist in a choral conducting graduation recital. beautiful music. heavenly. very fitting requiem music for a peaceful rest (or eternal life) in His kingdom. Bravo Mozart. (^^,)
I love the voices of the tenor and the soprano combinated at 1:58 when they pronounce the "O" of "ultionis", that sounds really wonderful. Don't you think so?
Recordare Remember, blessed Jesus, That I am the cause of Thy pilgrimage, Do not forsake me on that day. Seeking me Thou didst sit down weary, Thou didst redeem me, suffering death on the cross. Let not such toil be in vain. Just and avenging Judge, Grant remission Before the day of reckoning. I groan like a guilty man. Guilt reddens my face. Spare a suppliant, O God. Thou who didst absolve Mary Magdalene And didst hearken to the thief, To me also hast Thou given hope.
I don't find the bass soloist boring, really. Alastair Miles is a wonderful bass, I just don't think his voice was right for the solo when combined with the other three.
i do use my ears and i don't like what i hear. I'm allowed to have this opinion, as you are allowed to have yours. everyone has different tastes and he's not mine. no need to be stuck up about it
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too fast?? not in the least - a crisp and clear interpretation which is full of thought and emotion - instead of the pious well-meaning which dogs other versions.
and has anyone else noticed ann sofie von-otter's chin wobble with emotion at about 1:00? she gets herself under control just in time to sing - a nice human little moment - and an indication of just how powerful this music is.
¡Con mucha voluntad, ya que soy un profano, digo que hay versiones muy, pero que muy mejoradas de este pasaje en concreto! Me suene sin brío, fuerza, un poco desangelada, como si fuera para entonar-afinar. ¿O será que estoy acostumbrado a oir mi vinilo Deuscht Gramofón?
They don't overdo vibrato or "Solo-Style" expression... That makes the performance AMAZING. The blend formed by the soloist is perfect. The tempo is a little faster than usual but this is my favorite recording.
christoperfect! totally agreed! this is IMO the best recording of this piece known to man. its good to have variety, but this is just soooooo good. all the voices are so perfect. i like the tempo for this also, and yes to the soloists. this music really moves my soul. something that hiphop and other compositions today can never do. sad, and uplifting all at once.
Although the tempo is a bit more quick than we may be used to, I think one has to factor in the many hands who crafted this work. It was, after all, an "unfinished" work of the great composer. Inasmuch as it is itself, not "pure" Mozart... It is open to interpretation ,in a much more broad and liberal way.
@HUNTERWORLDNATION This movement was written by Mozart. The only movements he didn't get to finish before he died were from the Sanctus and onward; Süssmayr finished the work from there.
@TheJoshuaCarter At the time of Mozart's death, only the opening movement (Requiem aeternam) was completed in all of the orchestral and vocal parts. The following Kyrie was only finished up to its 45th bar and most of the sequence (from Dies Irae to Confutatis) were complete only in the vocal parts and the continuo. The last movement of the sequence, the Lacrimosa, breaks off after only eight bars and was unfinished. The following two movements of the Offertorium were again only partially done.
@HUNTERWORLDNATION So you're saying that the instrumental part of Requiem from Dies Irae onward was done almost completely by Sussmayr (except the continuo)?
@Dodo251 In the work occasionally some of the prominent orchestral parts have been briefly indicated, such as the violin part of the Confutatis and the musical bridges in the Recordare. Additionally, the Domine Jesu Christe in the vocal parts and continuo (up until the fugue, which contains some indications of the violin part) and the Hostias in the vocal parts only. My point was in responding to TheJoshuaCarter who incorrectly, attempted to correct me.
@Dodo251 It's also worth noting that it was NOT Süssmayr alone who crafted the work. Upon Mozart's death, Constanze (his wife) had the work completed by other composers, but to receive final payment, their assistance had to remain a secret. Constanze wanted to present the work as having been written by Mozart to completion, so as to receive revenue from the work. When this came out she insisted that Mozart left explicit instructions for the work's completion (this was untrue).
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Are you a musicologist? I had thought Sussmayer had fragments to complete the Requiem, and all fragments were composed by Mozart before he died.
@Elainelps0421 Hi Elaine, most folks believe that... it's a common misnomer, I believe it's due to the film on his life, (which was liberal with the facts) and also that Constanze intentionally told a falsehood, in order to make a bit more money for herself after his death. I'm not a professional musicologist, but I do enjoy the historical aspects of music :)
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Ok, I just attended a performance of the Requiem by the Philadelphia Orchestra on Sunday, and I don't think the program notes said anything about multiple composers finishing the Requiem. I have two degrees in music, but to be honest, I have no idea what the truth is. I have certainly heard so many different things here on the YouTube comments, that's for sure. I'd be curious as to what your source is and why you believe it to be infallible.
@HUNTERWORLDNATION The reason I want to know you source is because I want to learn as much as I can about this Requiem--but I want facts, not hearsay. Much thanks!
@Elainelps0421 This is from The Mozart Project dot org "Constanze, who had been left in dire straits by her husband's death, was desperate to finish the commission. She first approached Mozart's pupil Joseph Eybler, who took up the project briefly. It was finished by another pupil, Franz Xaver Süssmayr, who wrote the three remaining movements and completed the instrumentation."
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Very interesting...thank you very much! I have two degrees in music but I hope to get my doctorate someday in music history with a concentration in the oratorio form. I try to learn as much as I can from whatever source I can! Have a great night! :)
@HUNTERWORLDNATION having performed this with a choir back home (sang in the bass of the choir), I think the Requiem in general can be performed much quicker for some sections than most performances would suggest one should. I was struck by how slow especially the Kyrie is performed as opposed to the tempo we always went for and i think that it gains a considerable amount of energy if you take it up a notch or two.
to me, this tempo feels somewhat hurried.. despite its Classical elegance, i feel that the solemnity of the work could be conveyed to greater effect if it were taken slower. but neverless, it's hard to go wrong with music on this level of beauty!
Oh as I said, the music is beautful and full of emotion, and they are all world-class singers. But it would have been nice to see them feeling the music, with the exception of von Otter, who I think is probably the most animated.
Emotion is clearly heard in their voices. It may not be shown alot, but I think the soloists are filled with emotion and it is being heard rather than shown.
It's just lovely when Barbara Bonney, Anne-Sofie von Otter, Anthony-Rolfe Johnson, and Alastair Miles put their voices together in this number! How wonderful!
this soprano is really good - and cute. does anyone know who she is?
MrsWesenDerNacht 3 days ago
@MrsWesenDerNacht Barbara Bonney I love her!
musicismylife17blue 2 days ago
I can't help but wonder if Mozart was really a human after hearing this.
Wolfzart89 4 days ago
Where's the Requiem in D MInor from the Big Lebowski?
I was going to write a requiem mass, but then I took a sonata to knee.
TheUshankaBrothers 2 months ago
i live in South Africa i love Mozart. He is the best composer of the 18th century according to my opinion. If i can get anyone who can tell me what kind of Opera music this is(the soprano in combination with the cello is the best i love it)
diebongs92 3 months ago
@diebongs92 Why is it significan that you live in South Africa?
97aaroniscool97 2 months ago
@diebongs92 I wouldn't call a requiem "opera music".
FroggerbobT 3 weeks ago in playlist requiem mozart
I see the Recordare as the acid test in Mozart's Requiem. I'm sure it is pretty difficult to get right. 1:28ish... Se - 'di' - sti Las-sus... needs a poco cresc on the second syllable . I can't fault the Baritone and I felt rather taken back by the strange enunciation of the section starting with Ingemisco 'tamquam reus.' Again, it seems Gardiner is preoccupied with odd Stacatto effects. I enjoyed the performance though.
bootheven 4 months ago
was this Mozart's favourite piece of Requiem?
davlor86 4 months ago
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ControversyisGreat 3 months ago
This poem, called a Sequence in Church use, was written by a Franciscan friar, Fra Tommaso di Celano, who also wrote an official life of St. Francis of Assisi in the 13th century.
FRAGIORGIO1 7 months ago in playlist Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem D minor - K 626
Barbara and Anne Sophie are so good in this! They're spring chickens! Actually, the singing is exceptional from all of them.
lasalomeri 7 months ago
I simply love the way the soloists sing without looking at the music.
Juliaflo 8 months ago
I don't what's the problem with the tempo of the requiem. With Gardiner's Interpretation it sounds more exciting, it has more spirit. Especially the heavy, the mighty parts (such as the dies irae or the confutatis) sound much better than for example with Marriner. And if the less exciting parts are performed faster, it just makes the audience more excited. My opinion.
42TheGamer 8 months ago
im love this kind of music and im just getting to knw it
are the two men (closest) bass and tenor and then it's soprano and alto? thanks for helping, friends
Calza321 9 months ago
@Calza321 It's bass, tenor, alto (mezzo soprano), soprano as they appear in this portion of the video. :)
Elainelps0421 8 months ago
In other words, making the tempo faster is not a "liberal" interpretation but an attempt to perform it in a more historically authentic manner.
llamala2010 9 months ago
Period performances of Baroque music tend to have faster tempi than others. My understanding is that this is because there is evidence that, historically, the pieces would have been performed faster. At some point - during the Romantic period, I think - it became fashionable to slow the tempos, enlarge the choirs, and milk the piece for dramatic impact ... I am not an expert in music history but this is what I have read. Mozart was after the Baroque period, but before the Romantic.
llamala2010 9 months ago
what is that instrument at the opening of this video?
profjaykay 10 months ago
@profjaykay if i am not mistaken, the wind is a fagotto, and string is confirmed cello. i can't quite remember the score :)
rhonin93 9 months ago
WHOA! freaking fast!!! LOL
rhonin93 11 months ago
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Dodo251 10 months ago
@Dodo251 excuse me? well, certainly i cannot blame you for saying that i am a gook, or whatever that is. well come to think of it, i do believe tempo in mozart's era is rather slow and steady, instead of breath-taking fast paced as this. do you think with this tempo, the words could resonate their meaning? pardon me for being superficial, what is your qualification in music studies? i know i have none. so, do explain, rather than calling one a mere gook.
rhonin93 10 months ago
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Dodo251 10 months ago
@Dodo251 well then, looks like we've different sources of this. well, pardon me too because i prefer marriner (i can't really remember the spelling) as his style is rather slower. then we've nothing to debate on anymore, since we have fixed our minds on these people :)
rhonin93 10 months ago
@rhonin93 I don't actually know which one I prefer, Marriner did a brilliant job on Amadeus so I can't make up my mind. Sorry for the gook thing, I thought you were just trolling.
Dodo251 10 months ago
@Dodo251 meh, i dont "troll" on classical music. ever. i stated that merely because this whole requiem is faster than the ones i have in my mp3 - marriner's probably. and yes, amadeus. now i know who conducted those pieces there. :)
rhonin93 10 months ago
@rhonin93 I love Gardiner's tempi. I've heard ghastly slow and it just doesn't fit - at least for me. Gardiner's a Baroque specialist. I doubt he'd create a video such as this without doing a great deal of research. Even all of his performers have their parts memorized (well, except for the orchestra :) )
Elainelps0421 9 months ago
@Elainelps0421 for me, it is rather too fast. well, music is just too subjective to debate. all these are personal preferences. however, gardiner's tempo on dies irae is better than marriner's. really accurate and angry.
rhonin93 9 months ago
PLEASE ANYONE!!! Who is the soprano?
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
@Wally773MTG I think Barbara Bonney?
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@Elainelps0421 YES! For whatever reason I was like "....Kiri Te Kanawa..... no....uuuh...." Total brain-fart
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
That instrumental intro is ubelievably good, I must have rewined it about 10 times.
Dodo251 1 year ago
Ah, more complaints about the tempo... this IS an authentic speed to take it at. John Eliot Gardiner is a Baroque specialist and DOES know Mozart.
65renaissanceman 1 year ago
@65renaissanceman I agree completely!
Elainelps0421 9 months ago
The execution in this performance is, for all intents and purpose, as close to flawless as it gets. What a gorgeous sound - great balance between the soloists and the orchestra as well; they stay out of each others' way quite nicely.
What a tragedy that they were all compelled to perform this at 120% speed. It almost ruins the whole deal. Not quite, but almost.
manwithabook 1 year ago
@manwithabook I love the tempo :)
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
Beautiful!
watersignwater 1 year ago
For some reason, I have become obsessed with watching these videos simply because I LOVE to hear the mezzo-soprano (Ann Sofie Von Otter) - Oh yes; I know who she is. Her in the entry of the soloists is perfect. I love hearing this woman!!!!! Plus, one of the greatest musical compositions ever composed... win win! T_T
SilenceTheQuiet 1 year ago 2
For some reason, the tenor reminds me of Beau Bridges.
HyperionResident 1 year ago
soloists pwn this shit. Tenor is a little too nice lolz
lsuman93 1 year ago
What is that first instrument that plays the melody? Is that a period clarinet or something? O.o
sstrunks5555 1 year ago
@sstrunks5555 is a corno di bassetto
tebiano 1 year ago
@tebiano Okay, that's cool :D I was sorta close :P
sstrunks5555 1 year ago
yes this is a bit fast but the soloists are most excellent
peruvianhitman 1 year ago
best soloists I've ever heard in this part of the Requiem :) especially soprano
MrOskarthebest 1 year ago
Am I the only person who finds this way too fast? I know most performances on the Tube are around this speed, but it seems to trash the serenity and beauty of the piece. It should be about three quarters of this tempo IMO.
whatsmylogin 1 year ago
@whatsmylogin This piece is hardly serene, at least the text; it is a passionate plea for mercy and for salvation in the face of death.
NihilNominis 1 year ago
@whatsmylogin ugh....what a drag that would be, lol! I humbly think Mozart would approve of this tempo!
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
i love how Mozart created this piece
its like, mixing a puzzle and reconstructing it back
it may sound quite fast at first, but the more i listen to it, the nicer it gets, it just feel right for me
i wish i can reach that kind of tone the bass is singing
and yeah, von otter is good
i wish she come to perform in singapore or indonesia T_T
inthegene 2 years ago 2
The soprano is Babrbara Boney, she is amazing
tiririram7 2 years ago
I know Antholy Rolf Johnson and Anne-Sofie von Otter, but who are the Soprano and Bass?
olcorganist 2 years ago
excuse me: AnthoNy Rolf Johnson.
olcorganist 2 years ago
The bass is Alisdair Miles
nickcowie 2 years ago
il be singing this requiem mass tomorrow as the tenor soloist in a choral conducting graduation recital. beautiful music. heavenly. very fitting requiem music for a peaceful rest (or eternal life) in His kingdom. Bravo Mozart. (^^,)
malvinbeethoven 2 years ago
Bravo!!
GavriloPresto 2 years ago
slightly lower pitched than im used to but still amazing :)
bahemmadia 2 years ago
Not fast enough :3
pomponi0 2 years ago
You're not listening the music with pure ear...
baristotsirab 2 years ago
I would like it slightly slower as the old recordings are
donniecatalano 2 years ago
I love the voices of the tenor and the soprano combinated at 1:58 when they pronounce the "O" of "ultionis", that sounds really wonderful. Don't you think so?
fmarc28 2 years ago 5
I think everyone is overlooking the Alto. Just listen to her at the opening! That sound is the sound of pure perfection.
Also the bass is not dull but he is not the greatest bass in the world.
wackyal3000 2 years ago 43
@wackyal3000 Anne Sofie von Otter is a great mezzo, but I must admit that Alastair Miles sounds overemployed (he sings Verdi parts though)
1donpizarro 1 year ago
@wackyal3000 the tenor is killing it 2!(in a good way), and the alto's breath control is phenomenal!
whitfieldmusic1 1 year ago
@wackyal3000 Alto and tenor are usually most obscure voices
ComposerJMA 10 months ago
je to moc rychle dirigent bude asi pica
13243142 2 years ago
NJHanna 2 years ago 2
"Cntd"
My prayers are not worthy,
But Thou in Thy merciful goodness grant
That I burn not in everlasting fire.
Place me among Thy sheep
And separate me from the goats,
Setting me on Thy right hand.
NJHanna 2 years ago 2
I know both those basset horn players, one was my teacher, the other I worked with the other day playing this very work
Cornodebassetto 2 years ago
i don't care what anyone else thinks, i love all the solists, together they make these parts of the mass what it is :D
amichan500 2 years ago 2
yes, but in a way so does the paper, or the lights, or the air they're breathing.
gayhplover 2 years ago
yeah, you're right, if you think about how nice everything blends together...
(lights are really important with stage setting i think, to be able to capture certain parts of a performance)
amichan500 2 years ago
I don't find the bass soloist boring, really. Alastair Miles is a wonderful bass, I just don't think his voice was right for the solo when combined with the other three.
I'm in love with that Soprano.
ToxicPopsicle 2 years ago
gahhd the soprano makes it sound so easy
BSorne 2 years ago
i do use my ears and i don't like what i hear. I'm allowed to have this opinion, as you are allowed to have yours. everyone has different tastes and he's not mine. no need to be stuck up about it
mistressmozart 2 years ago 3
oh do enlighten me
mistressmozart 2 years ago 3
i don't mind the faster tempos but i'm finding that with some of the movements, such as this one, just a teeny bit slower would be nice.
the soloists are great though i don't like the bass soloist. he's very boring
mistressmozart 2 years ago
Komentarz dotyczy całości Requiem . To utwór absolutnie doskonały , grupa kompozytorów tworzących to dzieło w dramatycznych okolicznościach przed i po śmierci Wielkiego Artysty dała arcydzieło !!! Słuchajcie wszystkich części .
piga7 3 years ago
too fast?? not in the least - a crisp and clear interpretation which is full of thought and emotion - instead of the pious well-meaning which dogs other versions.
and has anyone else noticed ann sofie von-otter's chin wobble with emotion at about 1:00? she gets herself under control just in time to sing - a nice human little moment - and an indication of just how powerful this music is.
downtroddenmusic 3 years ago
Leans a little close to allegro moderato for my liking. Especially considering the nature of the text in this particular movement.
"Remember, kind Jesus,
my salvation caused your suffering;
do not forsake me on that day.
Faint and weary you have sought me,
redeemed me, suffering on the cross;
may such great effort not be in vain."
etc.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago 2
ah, love their voices
dlsdud85 3 years ago
All four of those soloists are so excellent. It's mind-boggling how they became so wonderful.
TabithaTimmy 3 years ago 3
¡Con mucha voluntad, ya que soy un profano, digo que hay versiones muy, pero que muy mejoradas de este pasaje en concreto! Me suene sin brío, fuerza, un poco desangelada, como si fuera para entonar-afinar. ¿O será que estoy acostumbrado a oir mi vinilo Deuscht Gramofón?
Monidemonina 3 years ago 2
Wonderful! This is Mozart greatest Masterpiece!
gsharp143 3 years ago 2
corno di basseto, que original, y esos trombones tenores tambien.
Clarinet16 3 years ago
ME GUSTA
Adrian8622 3 years ago
beautifuly done.
carmellat922 3 years ago 2
La solita pagliacciata. La velocità è eccessiva (come sempre), ed i solisti sono da pena (il tenore non si sente per nulla).
antlerose 4 years ago
No, it's not too brisk. It's an utterly sublime interpretation.
GazTheMusicMan 4 years ago 3
They don't overdo vibrato or "Solo-Style" expression... That makes the performance AMAZING. The blend formed by the soloist is perfect. The tempo is a little faster than usual but this is my favorite recording.
christoperfect 4 years ago 3
christoperfect! totally agreed! this is IMO the best recording of this piece known to man. its good to have variety, but this is just soooooo good. all the voices are so perfect. i like the tempo for this also, and yes to the soloists. this music really moves my soul. something that hiphop and other compositions today can never do. sad, and uplifting all at once.
SCHneiDen777 3 years ago 3
Usually tuba miram or lacrymosa are more memorable. For this recording, the recordare is the best part; its crispness and precision astonish.
wachtelms 3 years ago
Although the tempo is rather fast for my liking, I have to say that this is still an impressive performance.
darkcinderellaisabel 4 years ago
Although the tempo is a bit more quick than we may be used to, I think one has to factor in the many hands who crafted this work. It was, after all, an "unfinished" work of the great composer. Inasmuch as it is itself, not "pure" Mozart... It is open to interpretation ,in a much more broad and liberal way.
At least that is my take on it :)
HUNTERWORLDNATION 4 years ago 10
@HUNTERWORLDNATION This movement was written by Mozart. The only movements he didn't get to finish before he died were from the Sanctus and onward; Süssmayr finished the work from there.
TheJoshuaCarter 1 year ago
@TheJoshuaCarter At the time of Mozart's death, only the opening movement (Requiem aeternam) was completed in all of the orchestral and vocal parts. The following Kyrie was only finished up to its 45th bar and most of the sequence (from Dies Irae to Confutatis) were complete only in the vocal parts and the continuo. The last movement of the sequence, the Lacrimosa, breaks off after only eight bars and was unfinished. The following two movements of the Offertorium were again only partially done.
HUNTERWORLDNATION 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION So you're saying that the instrumental part of Requiem from Dies Irae onward was done almost completely by Sussmayr (except the continuo)?
Dodo251 1 year ago
@Dodo251 In the work occasionally some of the prominent orchestral parts have been briefly indicated, such as the violin part of the Confutatis and the musical bridges in the Recordare. Additionally, the Domine Jesu Christe in the vocal parts and continuo (up until the fugue, which contains some indications of the violin part) and the Hostias in the vocal parts only. My point was in responding to TheJoshuaCarter who incorrectly, attempted to correct me.
HUNTERWORLDNATION 1 year ago
@Dodo251 It's also worth noting that it was NOT Süssmayr alone who crafted the work. Upon Mozart's death, Constanze (his wife) had the work completed by other composers, but to receive final payment, their assistance had to remain a secret. Constanze wanted to present the work as having been written by Mozart to completion, so as to receive revenue from the work. When this came out she insisted that Mozart left explicit instructions for the work's completion (this was untrue).
HUNTERWORLDNATION 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate it.
Dodo251 1 year ago
@Dodo251 You are very welcome :)
HUNTERWORLDNATION 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Are you a musicologist? I had thought Sussmayer had fragments to complete the Requiem, and all fragments were composed by Mozart before he died.
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@Elainelps0421 Hi Elaine, most folks believe that... it's a common misnomer, I believe it's due to the film on his life, (which was liberal with the facts) and also that Constanze intentionally told a falsehood, in order to make a bit more money for herself after his death. I'm not a professional musicologist, but I do enjoy the historical aspects of music :)
HUNTERWORLDNATION 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Ok, I just attended a performance of the Requiem by the Philadelphia Orchestra on Sunday, and I don't think the program notes said anything about multiple composers finishing the Requiem. I have two degrees in music, but to be honest, I have no idea what the truth is. I have certainly heard so many different things here on the YouTube comments, that's for sure. I'd be curious as to what your source is and why you believe it to be infallible.
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION The reason I want to know you source is because I want to learn as much as I can about this Requiem--but I want facts, not hearsay. Much thanks!
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@Elainelps0421 This is from The Mozart Project dot org "Constanze, who had been left in dire straits by her husband's death, was desperate to finish the commission. She first approached Mozart's pupil Joseph Eybler, who took up the project briefly. It was finished by another pupil, Franz Xaver Süssmayr, who wrote the three remaining movements and completed the instrumentation."
HUNTERWORLDNATION 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION Very interesting...thank you very much! I have two degrees in music but I hope to get my doctorate someday in music history with a concentration in the oratorio form. I try to learn as much as I can from whatever source I can! Have a great night! :)
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION having performed this with a choir back home (sang in the bass of the choir), I think the Requiem in general can be performed much quicker for some sections than most performances would suggest one should. I was struck by how slow especially the Kyrie is performed as opposed to the tempo we always went for and i think that it gains a considerable amount of energy if you take it up a notch or two.
Shreddersebbes 10 months ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION I completely agree. VERY smart comment.
MrBranchFreeman 7 months ago
@MrBranchFreeman Thank you very much, I appreciate your kind comment.
HUNTERWORLDNATION 7 months ago
@HUNTERWORLDNATION No problem. I never thought about it the way you did, but it just makes so much sense.
MrBranchFreeman 6 months ago
They dont look like their enjoying what their
doing. Too stiff. && yes a tad hurried
operaticthrottle 4 years ago
too fast i think
cagatay87 4 years ago 3
my gosh....im in love ^_^
kodomana 4 years ago
thank you so much
isjerryzkid 4 years ago
to me, this tempo feels somewhat hurried.. despite its Classical elegance, i feel that the solemnity of the work could be conveyed to greater effect if it were taken slower. but neverless, it's hard to go wrong with music on this level of beauty!
potatoheadblues 4 years ago
Shit. That's really complicated. Mozart was a true genius.
carmaj156 4 years ago
Best.Recordare.Ever.
miketron 4 years ago
Spiders on the neck kinda good. Thanks.
bonesstorage 4 years ago
the dynamics are really good.
madkat8592 4 years ago
The singers are extremely good.
Asquaredx2 4 years ago
Your right.
pianist12 4 years ago
This is how people should talk on YouTube =)
max0maller 4 years ago
I agree.
pianist12 4 years ago
Oh as I said, the music is beautful and full of emotion, and they are all world-class singers. But it would have been nice to see them feeling the music, with the exception of von Otter, who I think is probably the most animated.
Asquaredx2 4 years ago
Emotion is clearly heard in their voices. It may not be shown alot, but I think the soloists are filled with emotion and it is being heard rather than shown.
pianist12 4 years ago
The music is absolutely sublime, but I would have liked to see a bit more emotion from the soloists.
Asquaredx2 4 years ago
It's just lovely when Barbara Bonney, Anne-Sofie von Otter, Anthony-Rolfe Johnson, and Alastair Miles put their voices together in this number! How wonderful!
whizkidforte 4 years ago 2