You see, the problem is that (maybe it's just me being biased) small minded people who want a theocarcy, a fusion of religion and state, use the argument that it is more moral, or something along those lines. I see anybody whose only reason for being moral, doing what is right, is that they think a deity is going to punish them for not doing so is just stupid. Being truly good means doing ood whether anyone will ever know about it or not.
Anyone else find it strange that Mahr calls himself "apathetic" but always finds himself talking about God or God-related topics (either with a flippant tone or a more ostentatious one) on all of his platforms? How could he be apathetic and think himself one of the most famous athiests in the country? It seems to me that he cares very much about the idea of God. Is this not a human commonality?
Creationism does not have a logical beginning ( what existed before god) and atheist at least admit that they do not know what happened before the Big Bang
@sciArun Once again, God (According to Creationism), is infinite, unlimited. He is beyond human understanding and comprehension. He has NO beginning. Whereas humans are FINITE, imperfect, limited, and therefore, has no beginning. He always was. Nothing comes before God. Most Atheists are too proud of their Atheism to admit that, actually, but those who can, I respect. As such, I also admit that I cannot physically prove the beginning either. Again, it comes down to what you believe.
I've no intention of converting people. I only wish to get people to understand we are all on the same level, just standing in different spots with a different view of the world. The Big Bang Theory is fascinating, and offers physical evidence, but it lacks a logical beginning. Creationism offers a logical beginning, yet it lacks any physical evidence. See? Evolutionists and Creationists really aren't that different at all.
It's not the idea of no beginning, the theory among some is that the big bang happens whenever the universe collapses upon itself, which it may do occasionally. Im not a genius who can explain anything, im just annoyed when people say that something is "beyond logic." maybe the big bang doesnt seem to have much logic, but it has evidence and god has none. The fact that you persistantly stick to your faith is respectable, but that you assert it over evidence and reasoning isnt.
@Eepicman It's interesting to see people get so sensitive when I offer my point of view. You asked a question, and I answered it to the best of my knowledge that you can understand. Whether you choose to truly reflect on it, or just shut it out completely, is up to you.
How is it possible to have no beginning smartass? I don't think you're wrong for having faith or morals but I can't help but question your ability to think at all if you favor something like that over science.
@Eepicman If you really think about it, it actually makes total sense. When I first heard that (Yes, I too questioned the origins of life, even as I claimed to believe), I didn't think it made any sense. But as I said once, God is beyond us in every way. We are finite, we are limited in all ways. God is infinite, He has no limits, and His comprehension stretches beyond ours. To our limited minds, we cannot fathom something with no beginning. But God is outside time and logic.
@MattLaxen you know you've just contradicted your own religion, right? I'm no expert on the Bible but I'm pretty sure that according to that, God created the world out of nothing. Also, where does God come from then? I guess the answer is nothing again...
@sebrick I never said anything about religion, and don't claim to follow a religion. I believe that a brilliant being of vast knowledge created something like the big bang that released the matter and energy our universe is made of. Who is this God and where did he come from? I have no fucking idea. Don't assume that just because someone believes God exists and is a loving being of infinite knowledge means they confine their thoughts to a man-made entity called religion.
@MattLaxen Here is what I don't understand in your line of thoughts. You don't seem accept that the Big Bang came from nothing but it sure is believable for you that something created it. Very well then. But where does the "creator" of the big bang is coming from? If we assume the "creator" does in deed comes from nothing we are back at square one. If not then it's a an infinite series which is as hard to accept as the fact that something can be created out of nothing
@sebrick I understand the mystery of the subject, that it is a never ending chain that could lead to nothingness. For myself, I highly doubt the idea that something comes from nothing. I think the answer is unexplainable on a human level, and the answer will be revealed when our spirit is released from this limited dimension of consciousness.
Actually Jesus knows what happens after you die because he was dead for 3 days & rose from the dead. We have his teachings in the bible that tell us what happens & it's very clear. Bill, you admit to not knowing or caring what happens after death which makes me discard your thinking or why anyone would follow your belief. That .9% of doubt in your athiestic views is God. Usually when someone is not 100% sure about something, they aren't taking every avenue possible to set up their platform.
I believe that you have the agency to believe what you want to, but, I think it's wrong to make fun of people for their different beliefs. Bad form. I feel really bad for him....
A conman explains to you what is the truth, lies are their stock and trade. Truth in it's reality is self explanatory in the light of day to a intelligent person.
Yeah wonderful lie. My friend's mom was Jewish and his dad was catholic!!! In college we found out they both were Jewish lolol. Interesting all the agnostics are coming from mixed marriages but at the end they're last names says it all.
The fact is, most atheists would agree religion creates intolerance. Bill Maher is atheist and intolerant. If he plans to make an impact, he should stop being such a jackass.
The good part of Bill, the bible sys, be hot or cold, don't be warm. Being warm God will spit you out. There is more hope for Bill than a hypocritical Christian.
???? Hey, God is the creator. regardless of how I may explain anything, I am not God. You don't have to prove anything to me. You just need to convince God of it. That will be very amusing
We may not have proof that God is real right before our eyes but that is why we wait until death. Upon death we will either A. Nothing happens, we're just dust and corpses in the ground THE END. B. Stand in front of God as were are judged in heaven. or C. Something that none of us could have ever guessed. And that is the truth
We never will understand it. We as humans don't have an ounce of the brain power it would take to possibly come up with a conclusion of how we came to be, how earth came to be, how the universe came to be, etc. People like Stephen Hopkins who claim they know how it all went down don't have an ounce of proof to back it up. Where's the proof of how we came? Create a human right before my eyes without childbirth. I believe in God. God is one of the only things that makes sense to me.
Think of this: i believe in God. You don't. If we both die and you're right, what happens? We turn to ash and nothing happens. If we both die and I'm right, what happens? You stand before God and he asks you why you denied him. Seems like going with Christianity would be the right thing to do...because even if i am wrong, nothing changes.
@FAMASFAN9 Think of this: A person is scared of going to "hell" so he "believes" or "believes" in a religion that suits there needs or has corrupt teachings. Another person is a non-believer because they have doubts about "god" and the religions offered on earth as man-made babble. If there is a "god" which would you think he would tend to appreciate more?
EVERYONE GOD IS REALLY!!! I LOVE HIM HE LOVES ME AND EVERYONE! IM AM A PROUND CATHOLIC!!! SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT CATHOLICS THAT TURNED INTO ATHIEST!! TRUST ME YOUR LEADING TO A WRONG PATH!
Bill Maher is a Jewish Atheist that means he supports Biblical Prophecy, History and Geography in the creation of Israel as well as supporting the Jewish Right of Return as God promised the Jews but doesn't believe in God.
i love **sarcasm** how ppl here classify those who believe in any form of GOD as dumb ppl , stupid and ignorant close minded retards . i mean seriously? consider this; how often can we as human discuss this matter without implying that other person, which believes contrary to what we believe in , is ignorant or stupid?
When you die there is no going to heaven or hell....You just don't exist anymore and that's a fact.So, where were you when you weren't born, like where were you in the 14th century or 3rd century.You weren't existing!And that's what happens when you die...There is nothing anymore,just like there was nothing until you were born...
What it all boils down to is people need to learn when to just keep their mouths shut. Atheists hate when Christians throw religion and God in thier faces and Christians hate when atheists shit on them for what they believe. This is a major conflict in this society because no one can have an opinion or belief because it will conflict with something that someone else believes. Until we learn to just agree to disagree things are just going to suck but both parties are so close minded.
People keep referencing the bible or other "holy" books but there's more than one so if god was real he would make it clear so people don't go to "hell". Most of the world is told by their parents that's gods are real but imagine they never told you, you wouldn't even think about it
the problem is INTOLERANCE not religion. And Bill... read up on near-death experiences and realize that we're just in our own dimension, I bought your dvd Religulous and I liked it. However it doesn't mean you're so much more smarter than everyone else. Its what happens when you catch people off guard, its what happens when you get big-headed from winning arguments. You say that know one will ever know what happens when you die. I have an idea.. and thats why I believe in Jesus
@waiausk8er intolerance comes from the lack of education, religion has always been against science and reason so i say religion is evil and dangerous, religious people scare the shit out of me, i stay away from them at every level, just like the mental problem people. science, reason, education...these things will eventually cure the world of superstition..hopefully!
God is a supernatural being that is made up in one's head to help them understand life, death, and the natural occurances that can not be scientifically proven yet. I could put my faith in a piece of cheese if it makes me feel better and help me understand things and help me through hard times. God exists if you think god exists. If i have an imaginary friend, he exists if i think he exists. Its all in your head. nd the bible was written for people to try to understand what happens around them.
Maher says there is no God, which is a claim of knowledge. Then, he say that "we can't know". Unfortunately, Maher reveals himself to be precisely what he is attacking, a closed-minded bigot who thinks he has all the answers.
@ggazoo You say there is no Santa Claus, which is a claim of knowledge... bla bla bla. of course there is no GOD. How can something you create in your mind be real? get a LIFE.
@TaylorJones1986 Just because you didn't get anything for Christmas you want to ruin it for everyone? Question: If something created in my mind can not be 'real' why are there original songs on my page? The cells in my head put together something which tickles them when heard. By analogy, the 'God' people create in their own heads, is just as real to them. It may be meaningless to you but obviously a billion Catholics have a man inside their heads, as do Muslims: Okay, bad examples but valid.
@SmileyGarrish Those "original songs" you created were influenced by other musicians and life experiences and certain genres. "God" is the same thing. If your parents were Hindu you would most likely take that religion. If you lived 3500 years ago in Ancient Egypt or Greece you would believe in their numerous Gods.
This god people have in their heads is a product of their surroundings, it's not completely original.
In 1500 years God will be a completely different concept.
@johnnyrocketisgod I was born and baptized Anglican; but learned and read enough to know that people the world over simply try to define what is 'good' or 'evil', then write down or share the 'knowledge' as a way of ensuring that others behave in socially acceptable ways towards each other. Religion, as organized these days, seems to be more of Tribal Herd Control Method. Besides I became Rastafarian long ago, believing that Haile Sellassie I came to teach us about Fascism, greed and violence.
@johnnyrocketisgod And I do not know any other musicians, have not had lessons, and often wonder if it is even 'music' - besides your argument doesn't account for the origin of 'music' itself - or why we enjoy rhythm and various tones but not others. Maybe what we think of as music is stimulating the receptors for sound in our minds? It may have no larger purpose.
@nothingcantmakesomet Lets define real: "Actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed" "God" does not exist as a thing or occurring in fact, and he is imagined or supposed. That's why.
@TaylorJones1986 Well, we have evidence against Santa Claus, and considering that Santa (if he did exist) is a contingent being, whereas God is non-contingent, the comparison is flawed from the outset. It's a weak analogy.
@TaylorJones1986 Well, we have evidence against Santa Claus, and considering that Santa (if he did exist) is a contingent being, whereas God is non-contingent, the comparison is flawed from the outset. It's a weak analogy.
@ggazoo He basically said he's 99.9% sure there is no god. He also has said it doesn't really matter that much to him, but of course he notices that so much of the country is being run believers and decisions affecting him are being made by people who are so CERTAIN that there is a god that they are willing to say that god TOLD them what decisions to make. So how does that make him a close-minded bigot? I think you're afraid of the fact that a very intelligent person does not believe in god.
@ggazoo You are right and there are different degrees for knowing what is true. While we are certain that santa claus does not exist, we cannot be so certain about if there is a god or not, because there might be a god. The idiots that argue with you don't rationalize that there are different degrees on what we think to be fake. I would put santa claus at 100% being fake, but I would put god at 50% being fake. But I know the tooth fairy exists, I seen it, lol
@FarhanC99 There is lots of evidence proving God doesn't exist. Religious people dismiss them and push those ideas away. However, there is no proof God exists. It's all assumptions and speculation.
GOD makes it clear in thew Bible that we are to not lean on our own understanding. Simply put - our futile human minds are not capable of ever getting the questions like where did God come from. Stop people and think about it. Where did we all come from ? It takes two people to create a new born life correct ? Where did the 1st one come from ? To say that gases, and cells randomly put something together as complex as the human mind ALONE and body is ludacrist. Search your heart, not your mind
@Riffin71 Your argument is ludicrous. Ludacris is a rapper. We know exactly where life came from it didn't "randomly" come together rather the forces of nature acting as they do put life together in a long sequential process that took billions of years. The only mystery is how the process works that made the first self replicating molecule to form. That will eventually be solved as all the other mysteries that get the ignorant to yell"SEE GOD DID IT!" News flash.....the earth is round.
@Riffin71 There are two things in the universe: matter and antimatter. Energy requires matter (e=mc^2), so it doesn't qualify as a separate entity. When put together, antimatter an matter for nothing, just as 1+(-1)=0. So, really, Something didn't come from Nothing. Nothing came from Nothing.
Athiests hate religious people because they "try to force their religion onto people", but they will argue that your belief is wrong, you should believe what they believe, or your stupid. What are they doing right there?
@persiansthebest Then why doesn't he present himself to teach them? Instead of giving them to a bunch of ignorant uneducated desert nomads? This God is not smart enough to think that might be a bad idea? Have you ever thought that maybe these ancient people didn't understand the natural world and just made up stories to try to explain it?
I hate this guy and how he explains atheists, He makes us sound like jerks. Most Atheists believe that Science disproves religion. If there was any actual evidence to religion then most atheists would likely make a response. Religion came about because ancient civilization wanted to explain the natural events around them.
Here is the bigest whole in Christianity. If the first humans were Adam and Eve then we would all be horribly in bred retards.
@ouran30001 if you believe in Science, than aren't you agnostic? Cause I thought atheiests beleived in no power stronger than human power? But an agnostic believes there is a power greater than themselves, but they want proof. They beieve they can't prove there isn't a gob, but others can't prove there is one. Even if you believe Science over religion, you still believe in a higher power...which is agnostic, Correct? I'm honestly asking, not being a smart ass...I'm curious...
@himelitb an atheist doesn't believe in any GOD. or any supernatural bullshit. of course there is power stronger than human power. ALIEN Power. Thats a scientific fact.
@TaylorJones1986 Right, so you can't be an atheiest if you believe in science...cause then you believe in something, which means agnostic, correct? I thought atheiests believe in nothing, the world just "is". Everything is just here and an agnostic beieves there is something greater, but want proof. So an atheiest that believes in science, cant be an atheiest.
@himelitb I'm a christian, but your argument that if an athiest believes in science, they can't be athiest, is stupid. Science is based on what is fact and trying to test on a hypothesis to see if it is real based on evidence.
@DP3mo24hofosho are u stupid or what? atheism is all about religion. got nothing to do with other beliefs. science got nothing to do with religion. if i believe that one day i'm gonna be rich doesn't mean that i'm agnostic :))
@DP3mo24hofosho I just thought that atheiest believed in "nothing", so they cant believe in science because that is "something". I dont really care, i was just wondering. I have my own beliefs and I believe whatever helps someone be happy is fine by me.
@himelitb Pick up a dictionary. Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. That's it. It says nothing about what one believes about anything else (whether it's science, philosophy, politics, etc.). There's a difference between atheism and nihilism.
@Adam931989 Atheist - Noun - A person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
To answer this question, Bill Maher simply disbelieves in the presence of a God or Gods because he doesn't know if they exist and hasn't a reason to. He has the rationale to admit that he, nor anybody really knows and actually has the nerve to question all those who claim they do have knowledge of a supreme being or beings in a society where we're just supposed to accept the teachings.
@himelitb Agnostics are not sure. Atheists assert there is no proof for God therefore no reason to believe. Where someone like you, if you are religious is also an Atheist just doesn't realize it. You believe in one religion but not all the others that makes you an atheist in regards to the others. What criteria do you use to not believe the others? You don't use science right? I'll tell you. You use emotion like some agnostics do. That's the difference.
@okltsply I have my own beliefs, but I dont agree with any "one" religion or belief. I think whatever helps a person be happy and "right" with the world, is totally up to them. But I dont ever consider ANYBODYS beliefs as wrong, its just not always for me. Thanks for the help though. Ive always been a little confused between the atheists beliefs, or "disbeliefs"
@himelitb No problem. I also agree that people can believe whatever they want as long as they live with what in the U.S.A. is known as the common law. Which basically means don't hurt another person or their property and everyone is fine. The problem is believers rarely stick to that. In the U.S. Christians fight to deny gay people their rights. In other parts of the world Muslims kill people who won't believe what they do. That's the problem.
@himelitb No simply. The long way is that I believe that there is no proof for god thusly he does not exist. As that is the basis behind my thinking ( and all the atheist I know, wich is a lot) If there was proof of a god wich I doubt then I would accept that there was a god. I do not fully dismiss the probability ( though i am extremely skeptical) as a proper scientist must consider all theories ( even the great Albert Einstein fell to this falt).
every human belief or thought is limited to a set of ideals... the way i see it... humans probably won't ever understand what the meaning of life is... they are forever trapped in a lesser demention-- caged by the very tools they use to understand. the first set of ideals and priciples the majority used was magic, then alchemy and religion, and now science. who knows? there might be even more links to come in this proverbial chain. it's like seeing a rectangular piramid as a square when in 2D.
Isn't that much like life though some people think that in the end there will be no consequence or reward for your actions? Hell is not a fun place and more and more evidence is for God not against him. But no one can force you though and there aren't any second chances. All the evidence given hopefully you get it right the first time.
@HeroBidd0 Tell us of this evidence? Why does there have to be consequence or reward other than some wanting it to be so? Why do theists assume that atheists don't believe so as to avoid this "justice system" maybe atheists don't believe because they think more of themselves than your groveling, guilt ridden, delusional self does.Maybe if you present this evidence you can help us change......we'll wait.
The idea of a creator is more factual than the Big Bang Theory or any scientific conclusion that has been offered as something that set the universe into motion. The Big Bang Theory states that all of the universe's matter was condensed into a point the size of a period, and then exponentially expanded, but it offers no evidence of how this point came to be, so it offers more of a paradox than a conclusion.
@DurhamSkateboarding1 But the idea of a creator has no evidence whatsoever, its just a guess. Science answers honestly that they don't know, they don't make up stuff. I think Stephen Hawking said that asking what happened before the Big Bang where time was created is like asking where the edge of the earth is.
who cares? almost all of us dabbled in atheism between ages 15-20. It's just not shocking anymore. It's embarrassing to see a grown man making a living by repeatedly announcing his atheism to a crowd of amazed onlookers. Stop caring and make the guy get a real job.
If the idea of a creator is so laughable then why would all earlier civilizations and present go with this conclusion?
Atheism on the other hand is easily be classified as sulking attitude towards the father or authority : we disrespect the more powerful, ignore and pretend he does not exist so tease, thinking we get what we want this way by psychological pressure of rejection
@balamanti2 Well, as children we need to obey parents, on things we don't understand, and they invent santa as a way of getting good behaviour. To insist on something similar for religion, in your opinion is something good? There may be a creator, or not, but WHY should be believe any of the competing fairy stories out there, that tell us that we should follow strictly the rules of Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc?
If the parents find a treasure in faith , spiritual, ethical, meaning of life, and intellectual.
It is only natural they want to pass it to their children.
If it is like u like to call it "insist" then it would not survive for ages. There must be something of real important value that people experience which others (like U)seems to be bigoted about & i can totally understand why: fear
@balamanti2 Actually a great deal of the spread and survival and spreading of the major religions is by coercion, force, fear and killing. Forced conversions, denial of school places, jobs, and even burial grounds... that's coercion. Inventing the concept of "limbo" to scare parents into baptising their children was a very real factor in recruiting the next generation. You may call that bigotry, but it's historical fact. Why do YOU deny it?
@balamanti2 In my experience, most people who are nominally religious, are doing so out of tradition and peer pressure. They were brought up in the faith of their parents, and choose not to be out of place. Very few actually actively live their faith, and some do actively pass it out. Most are passive however, and do the minimum not to stick out in their community. If the joining of a faith were left until adulthood, the numbers in the churches would be a small fraction of what they are.
@balamanti2 Name calling? Denial? Is that all you got? I grew up in a country almost 100% Christian, so don't tell me there's no pressure in religion. You sound like the type who thinks the sheep are under no pressure to stay in the field, because you've never tried to walk past the sheep dog. Where I grew up, the Church controls 90% of schools, and put the fear of limbo into every parent, to baptise their child. Fear, not love was the control method, and if you doubt that, you're in denial.
@balamanti2 I don't know what bubble you live in, but the vast majority of people who identify as members of Christian Churches do not have this great salvation. If that were the case it wouldn't bother me, but the large churches ARE social authorities and HAVE set social norms for a long time, and they did and do use pressure to tell everyone else how to live their lives. If you don't see that you must be living in some nice small town with just your local church members in it (lucky you).
@balamanti2 Are you claiming that before organised religion people did not have an organised society with familial ties? You are aware, presumably that non-christian children were baptised as infants without the consent or sometimes knowledge of their parents, and then stolen to prevent a 'christian' infant being raised by a non-christian? (e.g mortara case, or any non-white race from native americans to the aborigines) MASS kidnapping, indoctrination, and forced labour in Gods name. No pressure
No what I am saying is the Church provided the best setting for deep, genuine, long lasting, social ties and ethical root to everlasting support between strangers.
Studies and observation clearly indicate that Church goes are more social, happier, positive personality. Church members are with u till the day u die, marry, get sick etc
Usually non Church goers suffer from lack of socializing or genuine ethical foundation for social interaction - it is usually temp benefit based
@balamanti2 How old are you? Do you recall the hostility that pervaded society to someone who didn't fit the strait jacket role demanded of them. Maher has it easy these days. There was a time when to be an Atheist in the US and other countries was so controversial and dangerous. Phil Donahue's first guest was an atheist, named by Life magazine in 1964 as "the most hated woman in America". Was she lynching people, dropping napalm? No. She objected to religion being COMPULSORY in school. Choice?
I do recall the atheist regimes killing Christians: in China, Russia, and Cambodia
I recall Atheist regimes banning Churches and destroying the Churches bells.
I recall the Christians being crucified in China telling them let Jesus come and save you,
I recall Soviet army shooting the sky asking students : do u see blood, if u say no they will see because there is no God in the Sky and if there was he is dead and not bleeding anymore
@balamanti2 I recall all that too, and the common thread? Communism. Your own argument is so weak, you pick on a strawman. Communism is not Atheism, it's just that communists are atheists, but not all atheists are communists. I see you avoided answerinf my questions though. That's a fanatic ignorance.
What I care for is that the actions of atheists who were mass murdered are perfectly understood in the light of their atheistic belief and world view.
@balamanti2 Indeed, there have been atheists mass murdered, by atheist mass murderers. Why the soviet Gulag? For not accepting the POLITICAL ideology of communism. Atheism is not a political ideology, it is a personal philosophy, and it's more in line with freedom than communist Russia or China could be, because, just like the Vatican, they would not accept dissent within the ranks. But, hey, you hold on to your weak argument comfort blanket, it's worked well so far, eh?
But you know that communism did not came out of Catholic or protestant world view,
There are many thinkers who agreed that capitalism is kind of result of specifically protestant world view.
communism clearly is a manifestation of atheism, crimes and mass murder, ethnic cleansing, coincide with Darwinian world view which - by the way - is the main back bone for atheism
@balamanti2 and what comment on the forced baptisms conversions and wholesale kidnapping on children from non christian parents? And what about the killings by 'christians'? Those things were declared to be done for the glory of god. Communists kill for the state, for the ideology of Lenin or Stalin or Mao... not in the name of 'there's no god'. So, Christian slaughter of non christians, in your own words... discuss.
@balamanti2 OR non existent, if you actually put people on who actually killed "in the name of Atheism". Do you include Hitlers victims as victims of vegetarianism? You're intellectually dishonest. You know perfectly well, that the conquistadores, the colonists of North America, Africa, Asia and Australasia all explicitly used Christianity as an excuse to steal and kill. Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin all killed atheists who disagreed with their political and economic plans. You're only fooling yourself.
@balamanti2 Hitler wasn't an atheist, and his insane hatred had more than one root, including his religious/ spiritual beliefs. You are easily shown up as a dodger, you refuse to acknowledge what makes you uncomfortable. Fine, stay in your comfort zone. Don't expect the rest of us to join you. Organised religion is no longer the force it was, people are less fearful of speaking their minds. Grow up, deal with it.
Hitler and Nazis believed in Darwin and were in pired by Nieztche, The applied the rule of survival of fittest and evolution. No matter what politics they conducted to trick the church or others, they were manifestation of atheism at its wildest. Now I can perfectly understand why you are ashamed: it is not time to be honest and admit, thhat Hitler?Nazis were darwinist - like dawkinns , Harris and Maher
You see, the problem is that (maybe it's just me being biased) small minded people who want a theocarcy, a fusion of religion and state, use the argument that it is more moral, or something along those lines. I see anybody whose only reason for being moral, doing what is right, is that they think a deity is going to punish them for not doing so is just stupid. Being truly good means doing ood whether anyone will ever know about it or not.
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balamanti2 3 weeks ago
He's not atheist, he's agnostic.
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balamanti2 3 weeks ago
Wow, I'm an atheist and this guy is a dump Fuck.
minniman1234 4 weeks ago
Anyone else find it strange that Mahr calls himself "apathetic" but always finds himself talking about God or God-related topics (either with a flippant tone or a more ostentatious one) on all of his platforms? How could he be apathetic and think himself one of the most famous athiests in the country? It seems to me that he cares very much about the idea of God. Is this not a human commonality?
young00seek 4 weeks ago
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Creationism does not have a logical beginning ( what existed before god) and atheist at least admit that they do not know what happened before the Big Bang
sciArun 1 month ago
@sciArun Once again, God (According to Creationism), is infinite, unlimited. He is beyond human understanding and comprehension. He has NO beginning. Whereas humans are FINITE, imperfect, limited, and therefore, has no beginning. He always was. Nothing comes before God. Most Atheists are too proud of their Atheism to admit that, actually, but those who can, I respect. As such, I also admit that I cannot physically prove the beginning either. Again, it comes down to what you believe.
rippingthroughmetal 1 month ago
I've no intention of converting people. I only wish to get people to understand we are all on the same level, just standing in different spots with a different view of the world. The Big Bang Theory is fascinating, and offers physical evidence, but it lacks a logical beginning. Creationism offers a logical beginning, yet it lacks any physical evidence. See? Evolutionists and Creationists really aren't that different at all.
rippingthroughmetal 1 month ago
It's not the idea of no beginning, the theory among some is that the big bang happens whenever the universe collapses upon itself, which it may do occasionally. Im not a genius who can explain anything, im just annoyed when people say that something is "beyond logic." maybe the big bang doesnt seem to have much logic, but it has evidence and god has none. The fact that you persistantly stick to your faith is respectable, but that you assert it over evidence and reasoning isnt.
Eepicman 1 month ago
@Eepicman It's interesting to see people get so sensitive when I offer my point of view. You asked a question, and I answered it to the best of my knowledge that you can understand. Whether you choose to truly reflect on it, or just shut it out completely, is up to you.
rippingthroughmetal 1 month ago
How is it possible to have no beginning smartass? I don't think you're wrong for having faith or morals but I can't help but question your ability to think at all if you favor something like that over science.
Eepicman 1 month ago
@Eepicman If you really think about it, it actually makes total sense. When I first heard that (Yes, I too questioned the origins of life, even as I claimed to believe), I didn't think it made any sense. But as I said once, God is beyond us in every way. We are finite, we are limited in all ways. God is infinite, He has no limits, and His comprehension stretches beyond ours. To our limited minds, we cannot fathom something with no beginning. But God is outside time and logic.
rippingthroughmetal 1 month ago
Then how did "The Big Bang" happen? How did nothing turn into everything? Even atheists experience God's love and wisdom in near-death experiences.
MattLaxen 1 month ago
@MattLaxen you know you've just contradicted your own religion, right? I'm no expert on the Bible but I'm pretty sure that according to that, God created the world out of nothing. Also, where does God come from then? I guess the answer is nothing again...
sebrick 1 month ago
@sebrick I never said anything about religion, and don't claim to follow a religion. I believe that a brilliant being of vast knowledge created something like the big bang that released the matter and energy our universe is made of. Who is this God and where did he come from? I have no fucking idea. Don't assume that just because someone believes God exists and is a loving being of infinite knowledge means they confine their thoughts to a man-made entity called religion.
MattLaxen 1 month ago
@MattLaxen Here is what I don't understand in your line of thoughts. You don't seem accept that the Big Bang came from nothing but it sure is believable for you that something created it. Very well then. But where does the "creator" of the big bang is coming from? If we assume the "creator" does in deed comes from nothing we are back at square one. If not then it's a an infinite series which is as hard to accept as the fact that something can be created out of nothing
sebrick 1 month ago
@sebrick Nothing created the "Creator", He was always there. No beginning, no end.
rippingthroughmetal 1 month ago
@sebrick I understand the mystery of the subject, that it is a never ending chain that could lead to nothingness. For myself, I highly doubt the idea that something comes from nothing. I think the answer is unexplainable on a human level, and the answer will be revealed when our spirit is released from this limited dimension of consciousness.
MattLaxen 4 weeks ago
"Atheists don't pray." ...until they're on their deathbeds.
nluzwick1 1 month ago
Richard Dawkins is his God!
TheChadls 1 month ago
Actually Jesus knows what happens after you die because he was dead for 3 days & rose from the dead. We have his teachings in the bible that tell us what happens & it's very clear. Bill, you admit to not knowing or caring what happens after death which makes me discard your thinking or why anyone would follow your belief. That .9% of doubt in your athiestic views is God. Usually when someone is not 100% sure about something, they aren't taking every avenue possible to set up their platform.
rodneyorta 1 month ago
Whatever is eternal on this universe is god. Obviously
emmanuelmccoy2 1 month ago
I believe that you have the agency to believe what you want to, but, I think it's wrong to make fun of people for their different beliefs. Bad form. I feel really bad for him....
sllarson84 1 month ago
A conman explains to you what is the truth, lies are their stock and trade. Truth in it's reality is self explanatory in the light of day to a intelligent person.
PatriotTexas 1 month ago
Yeah wonderful lie. My friend's mom was Jewish and his dad was catholic!!! In college we found out they both were Jewish lolol. Interesting all the agnostics are coming from mixed marriages but at the end they're last names says it all.
ZAUO 1 month ago
what a loser in every possible sense.
InsanityOnABunFilms 1 month ago
@nothingcanmakesomet common sense
RealDealRevealed 1 month ago
"The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species." CH
Sconezeta 1 month ago
The fact is, most atheists would agree religion creates intolerance. Bill Maher is atheist and intolerant. If he plans to make an impact, he should stop being such a jackass.
jimmytheskateboarder 1 month ago
The good part of Bill, the bible sys, be hot or cold, don't be warm. Being warm God will spit you out. There is more hope for Bill than a hypocritical Christian.
pigjubby1 1 month ago
@pigjubby1 you employ an invalid presumption: Being that 'God' makes value judgements.
SmileyGarrish 1 month ago
???? Hey, God is the creator. regardless of how I may explain anything, I am not God. You don't have to prove anything to me. You just need to convince God of it. That will be very amusing
pigjubby1 1 month ago
@FluffyPi Thank you for the spelling fix and other corrections.
Sheisey62 1 month ago
We may not have proof that God is real right before our eyes but that is why we wait until death. Upon death we will either A. Nothing happens, we're just dust and corpses in the ground THE END. B. Stand in front of God as were are judged in heaven. or C. Something that none of us could have ever guessed. And that is the truth
Sheisey62 1 month ago
We never will understand it. We as humans don't have an ounce of the brain power it would take to possibly come up with a conclusion of how we came to be, how earth came to be, how the universe came to be, etc. People like Stephen Hopkins who claim they know how it all went down don't have an ounce of proof to back it up. Where's the proof of how we came? Create a human right before my eyes without childbirth. I believe in God. God is one of the only things that makes sense to me.
Sheisey62 1 month ago
@Sheisey62 *Hawking... and he hasn't claimed to know it all, most of it are his theories.
FluffyPi 1 month ago
Think of this: i believe in God. You don't. If we both die and you're right, what happens? We turn to ash and nothing happens. If we both die and I'm right, what happens? You stand before God and he asks you why you denied him. Seems like going with Christianity would be the right thing to do...because even if i am wrong, nothing changes.
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@FAMASFAN9 Think of this: A person is scared of going to "hell" so he "believes" or "believes" in a religion that suits there needs or has corrupt teachings. Another person is a non-believer because they have doubts about "god" and the religions offered on earth as man-made babble. If there is a "god" which would you think he would tend to appreciate more?
Sconezeta 1 month ago
maher is just a dumb asshole
ABroNamedHam 1 month ago
pierce moron is so crap
Gowshihan008 1 month ago
ALSO IF THERES NO GOD HOW DID WE GET HERE! THERE HAS TO BE A PERSON BEHIND US HUMANS TO CREATE US!!
BIGSMONEYS 1 month ago
@BIGSMONEYS you got here because your dad fucked your mom and didn't use protection !
Badforgood1106 1 month ago
EVERYONE GOD IS REALLY!!! I LOVE HIM HE LOVES ME AND EVERYONE! IM AM A PROUND CATHOLIC!!! SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT CATHOLICS THAT TURNED INTO ATHIEST!! TRUST ME YOUR LEADING TO A WRONG PATH!
BIGSMONEYS 1 month ago
“Music is my higher power”
― Oliver James
Nietzschean1000 1 month ago
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“Religion is like a pair of shoes.....Find one that fits for you, but don't make me wear your shoes.”
Nietzschean1000 1 month ago
Bill Maher is a Jewish Atheist that means he supports Biblical Prophecy, History and Geography in the creation of Israel as well as supporting the Jewish Right of Return as God promised the Jews but doesn't believe in God.
CommissarofPravda 1 month ago
i love **sarcasm** how ppl here classify those who believe in any form of GOD as dumb ppl , stupid and ignorant close minded retards . i mean seriously? consider this; how often can we as human discuss this matter without implying that other person, which believes contrary to what we believe in , is ignorant or stupid?
luixander19 1 month ago
Spaghetti monster is in futurama..
MaTTEM15 1 month ago
Maher supports SOPA.
RidiculouslyLuis 1 month ago
Wait if he's an apathetic atheist then why did he make a feature length film about how ridiculous and backward the entire system of religion is?
mppow97 1 month ago
His team?
MrLeftfoot7 1 month ago
See...
iamthewitness. c o m
23ord 1 month ago
When you die there is no going to heaven or hell....You just don't exist anymore and that's a fact.So, where were you when you weren't born, like where were you in the 14th century or 3rd century.You weren't existing!And that's what happens when you die...There is nothing anymore,just like there was nothing until you were born...
38thousandz 1 month ago
@38thousandz A fact? Do you recall understanding this "fact" before you were born? Better yet, have you died to prove this "fact"?
rippingthroughmetal 1 month ago
he sure has a hole in him
macroorchidism 1 month ago
What it all boils down to is people need to learn when to just keep their mouths shut. Atheists hate when Christians throw religion and God in thier faces and Christians hate when atheists shit on them for what they believe. This is a major conflict in this society because no one can have an opinion or belief because it will conflict with something that someone else believes. Until we learn to just agree to disagree things are just going to suck but both parties are so close minded.
TrippyScarecrow 1 month ago
America is a atheist nation
MALIRIPPA 1 month ago
People keep referencing the bible or other "holy" books but there's more than one so if god was real he would make it clear so people don't go to "hell". Most of the world is told by their parents that's gods are real but imagine they never told you, you wouldn't even think about it
trasher389 1 month ago 2
the problem is INTOLERANCE not religion. And Bill... read up on near-death experiences and realize that we're just in our own dimension, I bought your dvd Religulous and I liked it. However it doesn't mean you're so much more smarter than everyone else. Its what happens when you catch people off guard, its what happens when you get big-headed from winning arguments. You say that know one will ever know what happens when you die. I have an idea.. and thats why I believe in Jesus
waiausk8er 1 month ago
@waiausk8er intolerance comes from the lack of education, religion has always been against science and reason so i say religion is evil and dangerous, religious people scare the shit out of me, i stay away from them at every level, just like the mental problem people. science, reason, education...these things will eventually cure the world of superstition..hopefully!
boghdan2000 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 You're an idiot.
Iunderstandu12 1 month ago
Maher is not an atheist, we atheists are certain that there is no god. He's like "Uhm, maybe? I don't know."
hynwa97 1 month ago
God is a supernatural being that is made up in one's head to help them understand life, death, and the natural occurances that can not be scientifically proven yet. I could put my faith in a piece of cheese if it makes me feel better and help me understand things and help me through hard times. God exists if you think god exists. If i have an imaginary friend, he exists if i think he exists. Its all in your head. nd the bible was written for people to try to understand what happens around them.
TheBestMontageEver 1 month ago
Bill Maher is a bitch, not because he's an atheist but because he's a bitch.
stewaaaad 1 month ago
Maher says there is no God, which is a claim of knowledge. Then, he say that "we can't know". Unfortunately, Maher reveals himself to be precisely what he is attacking, a closed-minded bigot who thinks he has all the answers.
ggazoo 1 month ago
@ggazoo You say there is no Santa Claus, which is a claim of knowledge... bla bla bla. of course there is no GOD. How can something you create in your mind be real? get a LIFE.
TaylorJones1986 1 month ago 7
@TaylorJones1986
that is a terrible response to that user's post.
EmceeSpawn 1 month ago 18
@EmceeSpawn calm down, he's right
luk3mz 1 month ago
@EmceeSpawn No it's not. God is as likely as Santa Claus, the Boogie Monster, and a Spaghetti Man.
iN31L 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 worst come back
Atariiii1 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 Just because you didn't get anything for Christmas you want to ruin it for everyone? Question: If something created in my mind can not be 'real' why are there original songs on my page? The cells in my head put together something which tickles them when heard. By analogy, the 'God' people create in their own heads, is just as real to them. It may be meaningless to you but obviously a billion Catholics have a man inside their heads, as do Muslims: Okay, bad examples but valid.
SmileyGarrish 1 month ago
@SmileyGarrish Those "original songs" you created were influenced by other musicians and life experiences and certain genres. "God" is the same thing. If your parents were Hindu you would most likely take that religion. If you lived 3500 years ago in Ancient Egypt or Greece you would believe in their numerous Gods.
This god people have in their heads is a product of their surroundings, it's not completely original.
In 1500 years God will be a completely different concept.
johnnyrocketisgod 1 month ago
@johnnyrocketisgod I was born and baptized Anglican; but learned and read enough to know that people the world over simply try to define what is 'good' or 'evil', then write down or share the 'knowledge' as a way of ensuring that others behave in socially acceptable ways towards each other. Religion, as organized these days, seems to be more of Tribal Herd Control Method. Besides I became Rastafarian long ago, believing that Haile Sellassie I came to teach us about Fascism, greed and violence.
SmileyGarrish 1 month ago
@johnnyrocketisgod And I do not know any other musicians, have not had lessons, and often wonder if it is even 'music' - besides your argument doesn't account for the origin of 'music' itself - or why we enjoy rhythm and various tones but not others. Maybe what we think of as music is stimulating the receptors for sound in our minds? It may have no larger purpose.
SmileyGarrish 1 month ago
And what is your legitimate reason for thinking that God is not real?
nothingcantmakesomet 1 month ago
@nothingcantmakesomet He doesnt have one. He is an idiot.
InsanityOnABunFilms 1 month ago
@nothingcantmakesomet Lets define real: "Actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed" "God" does not exist as a thing or occurring in fact, and he is imagined or supposed. That's why.
johnnyrocketisgod 1 month ago
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kmoj12345 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 Shove it up your ass...
kmoj12345 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 And your opinion is as worthless as everyone else's, you don't know shit so stop pretending you do..
kmoj12345 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 Well, we have evidence against Santa Claus, and considering that Santa (if he did exist) is a contingent being, whereas God is non-contingent, the comparison is flawed from the outset. It's a weak analogy.
ggazoo 1 month ago
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@TaylorJones1986 Well, we have evidence against Santa Claus, and considering that Santa (if he did exist) is a contingent being, whereas God is non-contingent, the comparison is flawed from the outset. It's a weak analogy.
ggazoo 1 month ago
@ggazoo Quit trolling. If you're going to comment on a clip, I suggest you watch it first.
UncleJakeProductions 1 month ago
@UncleJakeProductions I watched the whole thing. How did I troll?
ggazoo 1 month ago
@ggazoo He basically said he's 99.9% sure there is no god. He also has said it doesn't really matter that much to him, but of course he notices that so much of the country is being run believers and decisions affecting him are being made by people who are so CERTAIN that there is a god that they are willing to say that god TOLD them what decisions to make. So how does that make him a close-minded bigot? I think you're afraid of the fact that a very intelligent person does not believe in god.
medular 1 month ago
@ggazoo You are right and there are different degrees for knowing what is true. While we are certain that santa claus does not exist, we cannot be so certain about if there is a god or not, because there might be a god. The idiots that argue with you don't rationalize that there are different degrees on what we think to be fake. I would put santa claus at 100% being fake, but I would put god at 50% being fake. But I know the tooth fairy exists, I seen it, lol
sendahojust1 1 month ago
@ggazoo nobody can truly say there is or is not a god
but based on the evidence available he chooses to not believe in god
theres a difference
FarhanC99 1 month ago
@FarhanC99 There is lots of evidence proving God doesn't exist. Religious people dismiss them and push those ideas away. However, there is no proof God exists. It's all assumptions and speculation.
iN31L 1 month ago
@iN31L im an atheist and i agree that observable evidence in reality greatly implies that a god does not exist
but we cant prove 100% without a doubt that a god does not exist, so we shouldnt claim we can
FarhanC99 1 month ago
@FarhanC99 Of course we can't prove it 100%. But those things are as likely. It's funny when christians dismiss those ideas.
iN31L 1 month ago
@FarhanC99 What evidence proves God's non-existence?
ggazoo 1 month ago
@ggazoo Are you serious? I'm not in the mood for this.
iN31L 1 month ago
@FarhanC99 I would have to ask then what evidence would Mr. Maher accept? It is possible that his expectations of evidence is misplaced.
ggazoo 1 month ago
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@FarhanC99 I would have to ask then what evidence would Mr. Maher accept? It is possible that his expectations of evidence is misplaced.
ggazoo 1 month ago
real men don't need a god brainwashed in their head.
GlennCocoGuitar 1 month ago
MASONIC HANDSHAKE 2:18
MASTEROFTHEHERB 1 month ago
GOD makes it clear in thew Bible that we are to not lean on our own understanding. Simply put - our futile human minds are not capable of ever getting the questions like where did God come from. Stop people and think about it. Where did we all come from ? It takes two people to create a new born life correct ? Where did the 1st one come from ? To say that gases, and cells randomly put something together as complex as the human mind ALONE and body is ludacrist. Search your heart, not your mind
Riffin71 1 month ago
@Riffin71 Your argument is ludicrous. Ludacris is a rapper. We know exactly where life came from it didn't "randomly" come together rather the forces of nature acting as they do put life together in a long sequential process that took billions of years. The only mystery is how the process works that made the first self replicating molecule to form. That will eventually be solved as all the other mysteries that get the ignorant to yell"SEE GOD DID IT!" News flash.....the earth is round.
okltsply 1 month ago
@Riffin71 There are two things in the universe: matter and antimatter. Energy requires matter (e=mc^2), so it doesn't qualify as a separate entity. When put together, antimatter an matter for nothing, just as 1+(-1)=0. So, really, Something didn't come from Nothing. Nothing came from Nothing.
TaylorJones1986 1 month ago
@Riffin71 Anti-intellectualism and stupidity at its finest. Congrats, you're part of the problem.
Antiks72 1 month ago
Athiests hate religious people because they "try to force their religion onto people", but they will argue that your belief is wrong, you should believe what they believe, or your stupid. What are they doing right there?
ultimatenick37 1 month ago
@ultimatenick37 Reasoning with you............
okltsply 1 month ago
@okltsply You do not question god, he questions you
persiansthebest 1 month ago
@persiansthebest I don't hear anything.....but if you do they have medication for that.
okltsply 1 month ago
@okltsply Atheists are as big of hypocrites as religious people, and that's a fact.
ultimatenick37 1 month ago
Praying is trying to telepathically communicate with an imaginary friend :D
AztekChief1 1 month ago
If Bill knew what I know and if you knew what I know. But you and Bill know what I know. We just have to remember that of which we knew, we know.
petermacmullin 1 month ago
boy you sure insulted a lot of people just now son. are you sure your not just pretendin to be atheist. You luciferians are so full of poooh
tubertism 1 month ago
Where not here to ask where god came from, but learn his spiritual lessons for the after life.
persiansthebest 1 month ago
@persiansthebest Then why doesn't he present himself to teach them? Instead of giving them to a bunch of ignorant uneducated desert nomads? This God is not smart enough to think that might be a bad idea? Have you ever thought that maybe these ancient people didn't understand the natural world and just made up stories to try to explain it?
okltsply 1 month ago
I hate this guy and how he explains atheists, He makes us sound like jerks. Most Atheists believe that Science disproves religion. If there was any actual evidence to religion then most atheists would likely make a response. Religion came about because ancient civilization wanted to explain the natural events around them.
Here is the bigest whole in Christianity. If the first humans were Adam and Eve then we would all be horribly in bred retards.
ouran30001 1 month ago
@ouran30001 if you believe in Science, than aren't you agnostic? Cause I thought atheiests beleived in no power stronger than human power? But an agnostic believes there is a power greater than themselves, but they want proof. They beieve they can't prove there isn't a gob, but others can't prove there is one. Even if you believe Science over religion, you still believe in a higher power...which is agnostic, Correct? I'm honestly asking, not being a smart ass...I'm curious...
himelitb 1 month ago
@himelitb an atheist doesn't believe in any GOD. or any supernatural bullshit. of course there is power stronger than human power. ALIEN Power. Thats a scientific fact.
TaylorJones1986 1 month ago
@TaylorJones1986 Right, so you can't be an atheiest if you believe in science...cause then you believe in something, which means agnostic, correct? I thought atheiests believe in nothing, the world just "is". Everything is just here and an agnostic beieves there is something greater, but want proof. So an atheiest that believes in science, cant be an atheiest.
himelitb 1 month ago
@himelitb I'm a christian, but your argument that if an athiest believes in science, they can't be athiest, is stupid. Science is based on what is fact and trying to test on a hypothesis to see if it is real based on evidence.
DP3mo24hofosho 1 month ago
@DP3mo24hofosho are u stupid or what? atheism is all about religion. got nothing to do with other beliefs. science got nothing to do with religion. if i believe that one day i'm gonna be rich doesn't mean that i'm agnostic :))
TaylorJones1986 1 month ago
@DP3mo24hofosho I just thought that atheiest believed in "nothing", so they cant believe in science because that is "something". I dont really care, i was just wondering. I have my own beliefs and I believe whatever helps someone be happy is fine by me.
himelitb 1 month ago
@himelitb Pick up a dictionary. Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. That's it. It says nothing about what one believes about anything else (whether it's science, philosophy, politics, etc.). There's a difference between atheism and nihilism.
Adam931989 1 month ago 2
@Adam931989 Atheist - Noun - A person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
To answer this question, Bill Maher simply disbelieves in the presence of a God or Gods because he doesn't know if they exist and hasn't a reason to. He has the rationale to admit that he, nor anybody really knows and actually has the nerve to question all those who claim they do have knowledge of a supreme being or beings in a society where we're just supposed to accept the teachings.
ReluctantlySelfish 1 month ago
@Adam931989 Atheist- A person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings. So what's your point?
himelitb 1 month ago
@himelitb Agnostics are not sure. Atheists assert there is no proof for God therefore no reason to believe. Where someone like you, if you are religious is also an Atheist just doesn't realize it. You believe in one religion but not all the others that makes you an atheist in regards to the others. What criteria do you use to not believe the others? You don't use science right? I'll tell you. You use emotion like some agnostics do. That's the difference.
okltsply 1 month ago
@okltsply I have my own beliefs, but I dont agree with any "one" religion or belief. I think whatever helps a person be happy and "right" with the world, is totally up to them. But I dont ever consider ANYBODYS beliefs as wrong, its just not always for me. Thanks for the help though. Ive always been a little confused between the atheists beliefs, or "disbeliefs"
himelitb 1 month ago
@himelitb No problem. I also agree that people can believe whatever they want as long as they live with what in the U.S.A. is known as the common law. Which basically means don't hurt another person or their property and everyone is fine. The problem is believers rarely stick to that. In the U.S. Christians fight to deny gay people their rights. In other parts of the world Muslims kill people who won't believe what they do. That's the problem.
okltsply 1 month ago
@himelitb No simply. The long way is that I believe that there is no proof for god thusly he does not exist. As that is the basis behind my thinking ( and all the atheist I know, wich is a lot) If there was proof of a god wich I doubt then I would accept that there was a god. I do not fully dismiss the probability ( though i am extremely skeptical) as a proper scientist must consider all theories ( even the great Albert Einstein fell to this falt).
ouran30001 1 week ago
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every human belief or thought is limited to a set of ideals... the way i see it... humans probably won't ever understand what the meaning of life is... they are forever trapped in a lesser demention-- caged by the very tools they use to understand. the first set of ideals and priciples the majority used was magic, then alchemy and religion, and now science. who knows? there might be even more links to come in this proverbial chain. it's like seeing a rectangular piramid as a square when in 2D.
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DiskJockyZadain 1 month ago
Isn't that much like life though some people think that in the end there will be no consequence or reward for your actions? Hell is not a fun place and more and more evidence is for God not against him. But no one can force you though and there aren't any second chances. All the evidence given hopefully you get it right the first time.
HeroBidd0 1 month ago
@HeroBidd0 Tell us of this evidence? Why does there have to be consequence or reward other than some wanting it to be so? Why do theists assume that atheists don't believe so as to avoid this "justice system" maybe atheists don't believe because they think more of themselves than your groveling, guilt ridden, delusional self does.Maybe if you present this evidence you can help us change......we'll wait.
okltsply 1 month ago
The idea of a creator is more factual than the Big Bang Theory or any scientific conclusion that has been offered as something that set the universe into motion. The Big Bang Theory states that all of the universe's matter was condensed into a point the size of a period, and then exponentially expanded, but it offers no evidence of how this point came to be, so it offers more of a paradox than a conclusion.
DurhamSkateboarding1 1 month ago
@DurhamSkateboarding1 But the idea of a creator has no evidence whatsoever, its just a guess. Science answers honestly that they don't know, they don't make up stuff. I think Stephen Hawking said that asking what happened before the Big Bang where time was created is like asking where the edge of the earth is.
rickstein123 1 month ago
who cares? almost all of us dabbled in atheism between ages 15-20. It's just not shocking anymore. It's embarrassing to see a grown man making a living by repeatedly announcing his atheism to a crowd of amazed onlookers. Stop caring and make the guy get a real job.
RamboRepublican 1 month ago
If the idea of a creator is so laughable then why would all earlier civilizations and present go with this conclusion?
Atheism on the other hand is easily be classified as sulking attitude towards the father or authority : we disrespect the more powerful, ignore and pretend he does not exist so tease, thinking we get what we want this way by psychological pressure of rejection
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Well, as children we need to obey parents, on things we don't understand, and they invent santa as a way of getting good behaviour. To insist on something similar for religion, in your opinion is something good? There may be a creator, or not, but WHY should be believe any of the competing fairy stories out there, that tell us that we should follow strictly the rules of Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc?
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
it is not "insisting" you got it all wrong.
If the parents find a treasure in faith , spiritual, ethical, meaning of life, and intellectual.
It is only natural they want to pass it to their children.
If it is like u like to call it "insist" then it would not survive for ages. There must be something of real important value that people experience which others (like U)seems to be bigoted about & i can totally understand why: fear
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Actually a great deal of the spread and survival and spreading of the major religions is by coercion, force, fear and killing. Forced conversions, denial of school places, jobs, and even burial grounds... that's coercion. Inventing the concept of "limbo" to scare parents into baptising their children was a very real factor in recruiting the next generation. You may call that bigotry, but it's historical fact. Why do YOU deny it?
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@balamanti2 In my experience, most people who are nominally religious, are doing so out of tradition and peer pressure. They were brought up in the faith of their parents, and choose not to be out of place. Very few actually actively live their faith, and some do actively pass it out. Most are passive however, and do the minimum not to stick out in their community. If the joining of a faith were left until adulthood, the numbers in the churches would be a small fraction of what they are.
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
There is no pressure in Religion, you are just an ignorant bigoted Moron.
All Christians who came to faith came with experiences that shatter the human stone hearts and open the mind to spiritual truth and light.
If you do not know this then u are talking out of fanatic ignorance
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 No pressure in religion? Are you serious?
Sconezeta 1 month ago
@Sconezeta
learn to read before replying
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 sweetheart turn the other cheek
Sconezeta 1 month ago
@Sconezeta
Jesus turn the other cheek because we can not do it
that is why we love Jesus and need him
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Where's that christian humility?
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Name calling? Denial? Is that all you got? I grew up in a country almost 100% Christian, so don't tell me there's no pressure in religion. You sound like the type who thinks the sheep are under no pressure to stay in the field, because you've never tried to walk past the sheep dog. Where I grew up, the Church controls 90% of schools, and put the fear of limbo into every parent, to baptise their child. Fear, not love was the control method, and if you doubt that, you're in denial.
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
You seem to be mixing "social authority", "Social Norms", human-nature, control
with the experience of mirical rebirth by experiencing Jesus. This what created the change in lives.
All the rest that u don't like: human-old-nature retaking over and u seem to be doing the same like the things u criticize in the society.
The faith is a result of life-story light opening the eyes- a real christian have to separate human nature, society, from the spirit
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 I don't know what bubble you live in, but the vast majority of people who identify as members of Christian Churches do not have this great salvation. If that were the case it wouldn't bother me, but the large churches ARE social authorities and HAVE set social norms for a long time, and they did and do use pressure to tell everyone else how to live their lives. If you don't see that you must be living in some nice small town with just your local church members in it (lucky you).
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
well within the church the light is shed on the-old-nature Vs new-nature
This is one of the nice things that unite people, society , families : a spiritual hug, that confess weaknesses and need for Jesus blood.
outside church it is : "let go" but people deep inside know there is a better way
parents , society, priests control, but we look upon Jesus with the spirit
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Are you claiming that before organised religion people did not have an organised society with familial ties? You are aware, presumably that non-christian children were baptised as infants without the consent or sometimes knowledge of their parents, and then stolen to prevent a 'christian' infant being raised by a non-christian? (e.g mortara case, or any non-white race from native americans to the aborigines) MASS kidnapping, indoctrination, and forced labour in Gods name. No pressure
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
No what I am saying is the Church provided the best setting for deep, genuine, long lasting, social ties and ethical root to everlasting support between strangers.
Studies and observation clearly indicate that Church goes are more social, happier, positive personality. Church members are with u till the day u die, marry, get sick etc
Usually non Church goers suffer from lack of socializing or genuine ethical foundation for social interaction - it is usually temp benefit based
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Cite your studies.
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@balamanti2 And still no condemnation of forced conversions, and kidnapping I see? What was your point about the lack of pressure in religion?
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@balamanti2 How old are you? Do you recall the hostility that pervaded society to someone who didn't fit the strait jacket role demanded of them. Maher has it easy these days. There was a time when to be an Atheist in the US and other countries was so controversial and dangerous. Phil Donahue's first guest was an atheist, named by Life magazine in 1964 as "the most hated woman in America". Was she lynching people, dropping napalm? No. She objected to religion being COMPULSORY in school. Choice?
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
I do recall the atheist regimes killing Christians: in China, Russia, and Cambodia
I recall Atheist regimes banning Churches and destroying the Churches bells.
I recall the Christians being crucified in China telling them let Jesus come and save you,
I recall Soviet army shooting the sky asking students : do u see blood, if u say no they will see because there is no God in the Sky and if there was he is dead and not bleeding anymore
then Russia & Ukraine came back to religion
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 I recall all that too, and the common thread? Communism. Your own argument is so weak, you pick on a strawman. Communism is not Atheism, it's just that communists are atheists, but not all atheists are communists. I see you avoided answerinf my questions though. That's a fanatic ignorance.
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
"Communism is not Atheism"
What I care for is that the actions of atheists who were mass murdered are perfectly understood in the light of their atheistic belief and world view.
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 Indeed, there have been atheists mass murdered, by atheist mass murderers. Why the soviet Gulag? For not accepting the POLITICAL ideology of communism. Atheism is not a political ideology, it is a personal philosophy, and it's more in line with freedom than communist Russia or China could be, because, just like the Vatican, they would not accept dissent within the ranks. But, hey, you hold on to your weak argument comfort blanket, it's worked well so far, eh?
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
But you know that communism did not came out of Catholic or protestant world view,
There are many thinkers who agreed that capitalism is kind of result of specifically protestant world view.
communism clearly is a manifestation of atheism, crimes and mass murder, ethnic cleansing, coincide with Darwinian world view which - by the way - is the main back bone for atheism
how do u answer that?
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 and what comment on the forced baptisms conversions and wholesale kidnapping on children from non christian parents? And what about the killings by 'christians'? Those things were declared to be done for the glory of god. Communists kill for the state, for the ideology of Lenin or Stalin or Mao... not in the name of 'there's no god'. So, Christian slaughter of non christians, in your own words... discuss.
jimbobeire 1 month ago
@jimbobeire
What do u call the kill in the name of " survival of the fittest"?
mind u that many people killed, yes, in the name of Atheism
Pol Pots, Jim johns ... and the list is very long
balamanti2 1 month ago
@balamanti2 OR non existent, if you actually put people on who actually killed "in the name of Atheism". Do you include Hitlers victims as victims of vegetarianism? You're intellectually dishonest. You know perfectly well, that the conquistadores, the colonists of North America, Africa, Asia and Australasia all explicitly used Christianity as an excuse to steal and kill. Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin all killed atheists who disagreed with their political and economic plans. You're only fooling yourself.
jimbobeire 4 weeks ago
@jimbobeire
dishonest!
Well you made disgusted by this brained washing mantra atheists use, as if atheists are honest !
P.e.h.l.e.a.s.e
Hitler and Nazis inspiration was Nietzsche -- be HONEST with yourselves
You disgust me
balamanti2 4 weeks ago
@balamanti2 Hitler wasn't an atheist, and his insane hatred had more than one root, including his religious/ spiritual beliefs. You are easily shown up as a dodger, you refuse to acknowledge what makes you uncomfortable. Fine, stay in your comfort zone. Don't expect the rest of us to join you. Organised religion is no longer the force it was, people are less fearful of speaking their minds. Grow up, deal with it.
jimbobeire 4 weeks ago
@jimbobeire
Hitler and Nazis believed in Darwin and were in pired by Nieztche, The applied the rule of survival of fittest and evolution. No matter what politics they conducted to trick the church or others, they were manifestation of atheism at its wildest. Now I can perfectly understand why you are ashamed: it is not time to be honest and admit, thhat Hitler?Nazis were darwinist - like dawkinns , Harris and Maher
balamanti2 4 weeks ago