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  • first of his he is christian and he is nowhere near being an arab. and there's nothing wrong with being a muslim or arab anyway. And obviously, obama's NOT a terrorist..

    Obama's a man who loves his wife and kids who's been through some hard times

    which he overcame by going to the best college Harvard.

    Senator Obama, i personally believe, would be an awesome president for America.

  • why wont you get on your knees for him already....

  • There are no papers showing that obama went to harvard, he never showed his birth certificate, and he IS muslim whether it matters or not. Did you not see that interview where he slipped up and said muslim instead of christian faith? I don't think you'd want a president that lies like that.

  • If your father is a muslem you are a muslem . If you leave islam sharia law requires death because being an apostate is THE WORST CRIME AGAINST ISLAM . Obama is getting away with things that would ruin other candidates . He will be president - AND MAY GOD HELP US .

  • True.

  • OBAMA BAMBOOZLES USA, AGAIN ! The Obama's speech LIFTED SHAMELESSLY FROM MARIANO RAJOY (Spain) , brainwashed and fooled voters.

    Obama is a MASTER PLAGIARIZER !

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  • Obama has been listening and attending religious ceremonies or whatever you want to call them..given by a white-hating pastor..oh wait not only is his pastor anti-white he is anti-american..Obama has been listening to this ridiculous pastor for 20 years what does that say about Obama? If he gets elected im moving to another country.

  • Bye!

  • Bye!!!!

  • Well, these are facts, maybe too scary to be uncontroversial. His middle name is Hussein. There are millions of Muslims have his name "Hussein". I have to say Americans do not understand other cultures.

  • I agree!

  • OBOMA=OBnoxious=OBsene=OBscure­=OBession=OBtuse=OBstreperous=­OBstruct=OBblivion=OBfuscate=O­Bay=OBdurate=OBiterdictum=OBtr­ude=OBlivious and last but not least OBlivion in the political world HILLARY/08

  • Obama is so general and vague. His speeches have no real depth and is limited. It doesnt feel right giving him a vote. He is George W. Bush all over again and the patterns are all there. He's playing to Karl Rove's playbook, The only difference is he's a democrat using republican tactics. This alone should sway voters away from this man.

  • you sound retarded

  • Are you serious? You need to do your research.

  • his name is barack HUSSEin obama! and he was a muslim for most of his life until he switched to christianity to expedient his political career! FACT! look it up. the only reason ppl vote for obama is b/c they are uneducated and apart of a sick cult. he has only been in the senate for 3 years! hes ready for president?? liberals are so f'ing stupid

  • get your facts right and stop telling lies

  • what are the fact commi?

  • haha commi? I am a libertarian the farthest away from a commi you ignorant pig. Look even now you can see people are finally getting facts about Obama and they are not happy. I mean for example he has some nut job preacher he listens to or at least sits in his church every week lol.

  • get my facts right? GTBANGER lol. just like OBAMA he does not have any facts just promises. Open your eyes he is a bad canindate he has no sides.

  • You definitely need to vote for Obama.So you can take advantage of the affordable education learn to spell correctly. "CANDIDATE"

  • What are "you" doing? He must be doing something right in the world his issues has you shooting fire out of your ass full of hate. Grow up!

  • THE GUY(OBAMA) (O)(B)oy(A)(M)ajor (A)sshole  IS JUST TO CREEPY..TOO EVIL LOOKING..TALK WITH NO WALK...ALL GATOR MOUTH..A STIFF BLUE SUIT..A NOBODY THAT IS CONNING THE GULLABLE TO BELIEVE WITH HIS RANTS ON A BETTER AMERICA..WITH NO HISTORY TO BACK HIMSELF..NEED I SAY MORE ABOUT THIS CREEPY ONE.

  • obama is not muslim. the media got keith ellisons oath on the quran mixed up with obama's. keith ellison is the black muslim senator. obama is not.

  • sleeper cell Obama....

  • As it was said in the Koran..to bring the enemy to slaughter..you must act as their savior..our false savior being "Barack Hussein Obama" The Muslim that WILL take down the USA !!

  • obama is not muslim. the media got keith ellisons oath on the quran mixed up with obama's. obama is from some trinity church or something like that. get ur facts right homie. and the next time u read up the translation of the QUR'AN, try doing it from a site thats not biased against muslims. people take so much out of context............

  • Here me now..you THINK it was bad under the Bush admisteration..wait until this Muslim  becomes President..Back to the 7th century here we come..he may have been born here..but he was raised to be a Closet Muslim..mark my words it will HAPPEN.Wake up before it's too late..

  • Barrack Obama is himself the sign of a great change in the American Politics. He is inevitable and will be the next president of USA ,whether someone will like it or not. His election will bring a paradigm shift in the American view of the world and vice verse

  • ...afraid you're a bit too optimistic here, my friend...

    From his statements, Obama doesn't differ but in details from the global American paradigm...

  • People are blinded by color. I guess it don't matter he has very little experience, and is week on terror, has a questionable Islamic back ground, has done little to nothing for the black "minority", but hey that's ok, he is black and it's time we get a black guy in office, and it does not matter what he stands for or his lack of experience. Oh! How we have come a long way baby, aren't we so proud.

  • ...well, you liked it in "24H" with Jack Bauer...

  • whats with all the anti-islamic shit. how does his islamic background effect anything. islam is NOT terrorist.

  • The name Hussein means "good" and "handsome," and no it does not mean "terrorist." Just trying to educate before the cancer of ignorance spreads to the death. It's just a name people. Watch and support my Obama video.

  • yeah go back to Kenya...

  • he has been getting a free ride with the press, why? Simply because no one has been able to questioned his voting record because he plays the race card.

    Once his first anti Obama movie comes out soon, and his voting record, etc starts being discussed on the news, I can assure you he will be seen simply as a great speaker and not a great leader. I juts hope it's not too late, if not, democrats will loose the white house again.

  • Democrats-it's up to us..either we send someone with a track record of proven record of fighting and standing firm on issues or we can send someone (Obama), flip flopper that plays the race card whenever, and with ahorible voting record and for not taking a position during the senate votes and simply voting "Present". Those are not leadership qualities.

  • Obama is a flip flopper who likes to attack, then when his opponent questions his record, he plays the "race card". I can't believe alot of people don't see that. I hope everyone sees this before it's too late. Perhaps the movie coming out on Obama will open up a lot of eyes, just hope it's not too late then....I said before, we do not know much about Obama, so we need to demand to know all there is to know about him. He should not cry when the public questin his voting record, etc.

  • we don't know much of obama but we know that the ones we know about havent done shit for us. it's time for something new. Race card? it's freakin politics so of course he will use it just as mccain has used his military/pow record and clinton has used her so called experience as an advantage. I just hope to God that Mccain or Clinton don't win cause it will be the same shit 4 years from now.

  • thats right!

    everybody is talking experience and shit. what good have all the "experienced" presidents done for us????

  • well buddy look at bush he has no expeirance and now we are hated by everyone an in debt just think want another retarded canindate could do to our country

  • read a book dude-we have been in debt ever since the world wars and the depression. bush has not significantly added to it...another reason why u libs are so stupid.

  • u have a good point. i just dont want that snob. if hillary gets selected im not voting at all. last election i voted in was in 1992. im only concerned cause theres finally a chance of a nigga in the white house.

  • Did i read a few post back someone said that BUSH didnt add to the national deficit? LOL wow must be strictly a fox news watcher who said that one

  • lol. definately a fox news watcher. hahaha. bunch of idiots!!!

  • Obamas anti movie ready to be released wihin 1 or 2 months. America will soon find out who is B. Hussein Obama. The only thing we know is that he is a great speaker. So was Hitler..

  • Barack Obama has missed 174 votes (38.3%) during the current Congress since 1991 RESEARCH citizens of USA :)

    Vote 182: S 2766: This amendment called on the president to withdraw troops from Iraq, but set no firm deadline.(???) Voted ...YES

    Obama is avoiding recorded votes on tough issues for which he would be answerable. Where is the strong leadership in this and so-called "change" he's a flip flopper! I dont care if he is Rep/Dem

  • mccain and obama make me vomit

    america does not have the funds to support either one of their wars

  • What war would you say that Obama is taking us into? Or is this more mindless propaganda?

  • BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...

    RON PAUL 08'

  • Who gives a damn about a name? You're pathetic! and so is your candidate and his attempts to revive a rightly dead economic system that only supported the super-rich and lead America into the great depression.

  • Hahaha stfu. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Go get spoon fed by the media you pathetic piece of shit.

  • Umm maybe because his full name IS

  • GO HILLARY!

  • I am voting for Ron Paul, but clearly you can see the hatred for Obama. This type of hate needs to stop. He doesn't disrespect the flag by not wearing that pin. He clearly puts his feelings out there, and I feel confident that if he wins things will be better than they currently are, but I am still voting for the person that can truly make a difference and will fight for me when called to action. Ron Paul 2008.

  • United we Stand for Obama.....#1

  • The guy won't even say the pledge of wear the american flag. He is a horrible presidential candidate

  • There are countless videos of Obama saying the pledge on YouTube. Look them up! He doesn't wear the US flag because it's a flag, not a fashion accesory. It should be treated with respect.

  • He's a closet Republican if it came down to McCain and OBama I would choose McCain. At least McCain doesn't lie about what he is.

  • Wow..do some research and look up some McCain videos. McCain is a piece of shit. He lies and flip flops with everything he says.

  • All I have to say is look at his state of Illinois! Highest taxes, highest crime rates, major corruption, dirty cops, etc,etc. He cant even fix a state! How can he claim that can make America better! Do us all a favor Obama---stay home and do your day job, by which you are doing a horrible job at!!!!

  • He's not the governor you dipshit. He is a law maker you fucking dumbass.

  • thank you

  • He's still part of the fucking governing body asshole! Thats like saying a General of an army shouldnt be held accountable for his lower ranking officers. You fucking DUMBASS!!!

  • This post was for KewlDudeC, one of the dumbest of the dumb Obama supporters!!

  • There is a democracy on the civilian side and there is dictatorship on the military side. Since the military dictates what a soldier does the commanding officer is directly responsible. When a senator writes a law the corrupt cop has FREE WILL with his decision to either follow and abide or not. So, POOPSTER stay at home.

  • Thats true, but if I mess up at work my boss will hold me accountable and punish or replace! Its about how bad Obamas state is run, and why? He doesnt bring that up at all! He hasnt done a Damn thing to make anybody(besides you) beleive that he can change anything. He hasnt done anything to better this country or his state. Why is he being held up like a hero? His words do not reflect on anything that he has done? because he hasnt done ANYTHING!! He's just a poster child for the dems b/c of race

  • Oh Yea, he is paid by the taxpayers just as the military is. He is not a civilian! He is a PUBLIC SERVANT!! The government controls the military also, so how come he doesnt have to play by the rules??? Its not just about his state, this is about how your country is going to be run. I dont want to split our country on dems and reps or even argue w/ you. I would just like to know what GOOD has he done? I cant find anything to back up his claims. Have you? If so let me know I cant seem to find any?

  • Point of order: "paid by the taxpayers" and "civilian" are not mutually exclusive. The defining criterion is a commission or oath of enlistment, not a government paycheck.

  • go poopster! ::applauses::

  • poopster is right how can we trust an inexperienced sell out like Obama

  • There are so many people in this world having ADOLF as their first name but they are not necessarily NAZIs.

    C'mon Give me a break! Let's support Obama!

  • Obama is a fucking sell out. He is out of touch with the black community and is a sell out to the Democrats. REAGAN HAD GREAT IDEAS MY ASS!

  • Anyone who believes these claims should have their heads examined. Seriously, to equate Obama with a terrorist because of his middle name?!?! I don't buy it.

  • Why? Please tell my why so many people hate her.

  • because she lies

  • She's a sell-out.

  • You got it all wrong. Clinton never said he likes Reagan. Obama loves Reagan and is a closet Republican. Obama is the sell out.

  • No, he's a LIAR! and a sellout. This guy hasnt done a damn thing to covince anybody besides the people who watch too much T.V. that he is going to be able to change anything. The only reason he is getting so much attention is the media, rich celebrities, and the fact that he is dark skinned! If he didnt have those three things behind him, nobody would even have heard of this guy!!!!

  • ...just a pity that you did not have that same kind of analyzing skills when your present President got you into a mindless war...

  • thats the past this is the present just because we all screwd up before does not mean we need to screw up again obama and the other canindates suck vote green party or someone else just to make a statement!

  • she's disingenious, and they lie . . . and this is coming from a previously pro-Clinton lifelong Democrat.  The way she has run her campaign disgusts me . . . I can see through the B.S. and triangulation. She's just another Bush except with a smaller tits!

  • The way Clinton has run her campaign disgusts you? Apparently you are not a true democrat if you're voting for Obama. Obama said he likes Reagan!

  • Did you know that you can't post any comments questioning anything about Hillary on her website? Isn't it strange that things are so rosy on her blog? She must be a saint.

  • you must realize all these people running for government,are just saying what all people want to hear,It does'nt matter what political agenda your in,None of these people even acknowledge God,when they say god,question which god.our Lord Jesus Christ or budda,crishna,satan.They are all out to get the power,money,they dont care about the little people.wake up america

  • Here we go!! Come in Idiots!

  • fuck that, vote third party

  • News for you Sotherns...You Hill Billy's Fuckers don't have brains to elect anyone...The last Republican so Called a Christian...got you into a ONE WORLD ORDER!!...I can't wait till you Sotherns get Drag or is yeahal dregg out in to the streets and done away with...I can't wait till Bush Dies.. What a Happy Day That Will Be!!

  • I've got an idea: bash white Christian Americans, praise immorality, become socialists & become like Europe: scared to live in our own countries since we've been overrun with RADICAL Muslims who hate Liberty, Women's Rights, Gays, Freedom of Speech & Religion, everything that the United States Stand for (Liberals included) - Open your eyes, turn off your public education system programmed emotion chip and THINK FOR YOURSELF for once in your pathetic self centered life!

  • Hey! I'm southerner but I'm no hill-billy. I'm proud to call myself a Christian and so are my friends.

  • We are precious little snowflakes friends. I am a well educated southern atheist and a proud, common sense liberal. You can try to congeal us all into a lump if you want but it is inaccurate. The idiots are magnetized to microphones here I can tell you!

  • to call southerners idiotic is just as prejudiced as racism or sexism.

    I am a strong patriot (as it would relate to our forefathers) but not a blind one. Being sheep is not patriotic.

    While I'm at it hate is ungodly. That goes for Muslims, Christians and others. I can't get my head around those people either.

  • anyone who bases their vote on a name is just ignorant

  • The same go's for a canidates race...

  • True, but the majority of the electorate isn't that bright: See election 2004.

  • unfortunatly, you're right =/

  • Google for the video "A Republic... If We Can Keep It."

  • Obama has no chance here in the south. There are more whites than blacks. And more christians than anything. If he's the nominee, most down here will vote Republican. A black man named Hussein has ZIP chance.

  • Unfortunately, I've heard what you've said a lot of times. It's a shame to think there's still so much racism and stupidity in the south.

  • I agree.

  • I think racism is a real issue but we should be careful not to make generalizations about entire groups of people, whether they be Republican or Democrat, or their skin color black and white. Especially not on a day like today honoring Dr. King

  • Or nothernerners or southerners I meant to add.

  • Actually SC has a high enough black population in the Dem party he could do well. I lived there. Most of the south isn't as racist as you'd think. I'm always judged for being white southern like I'm somehow a bad person or an idiot. It's prejudice. Pure and unadulterated.

  • Don't blame Hillary! His daddy gave him that name! Too bad for him!

  • obama should win

  • Ironically--the message didn't lie. Like it or not Obama returned 50k direct campaign contributions from lobbyists then called their sub constituents and took the cash from them directly. Tony Rezko sponsored his Illinois elections. Thumbs-me-down all you like: it't 100% true. And his middle name is Hussain. Obama is just another lie of a broken government--and a Socialist to boot.

  • Notice how he deliberately said Hussein. Clinton purposefully runs such a campaign. Good luck Barack

  • Disgusting.

  • While it would be easy to pin on Hillary, and I can't stand the bitch. It also isn't beyond the Karl Roves of the world to do something like this to create more infighting in the democratic party.

  • somebody please tell me the importance of DELEGATES.obama has won the most delegates so far.pls let me know

  • the more delegates that a candidate has, the more votes he or she will have at the democratic convention this summer. the delegates essentially will vote for the candidate that they represent at the convention. it works like the electoral college; the nominee of the democratic party will be the one who has the most votes from the delegates.

  • Fuck that bitch, American will be in Iran in no time if she gets in. This election is make or break for the USA...

  • I smell a sneaky Clinton behind this one.

  • Hillary talks about attacking Iran: watch?v=E7tiEt_iguY

    Obama talks about attacking Pakistan: watch?v=Dc4qnpu3N0M

    Ron Paul talks about peace: watch?v=-4ADvBQ8Dyg

  • A recent Presidential Honesty poll has Obama leading Clinton as the most honest by 93% to 7%. And you just listened to the reason why.

  • "If a non corrupt election is held, the spirit of America will herself dictate who will win."

    There's no chance of "a non-corrupt election" (notice we don't even say "fair" anymore) happening unless someone like Obama were the Democratic nominee. Clinton has the highest negatives of anyone running, Democrat or Republican. Asdffd is right, she simply cannot win the Presidency and anyone who votes for her in the Primaries is simply voting for McCain in the GE.

  • You know, I'm reminded of that scene at the end of Animal Farm when the animals find the pigs consorting with the humans, but are unable anymore to tell the difference between the two. That's how it's beginning to look in this campaign--there is no difference between the Clintons and the Bushes anymore. No ethical difference, anyway, and hardly even any difference in policy.

  • More proof that hitlary's people are no

    better then the Republicans. Anyone that wants

    to see how the Clinton's work might want to

    read the story about the Clinton camp trying

    every single dirty trick they could think of

    to suppress votes in Nevada.

  • fuck off . he is above all this bullshiitttttttttttttttttttttt­tttttttttttttttt

  • When you look at the polls, the baby boomers, Latin and Asian mostly vote for her. Baby Boomer's because they are set in their way. A good majority of the Latin and Asian they base it on race...it's sad but it's the truth, not for all but a good amount. When you look at the exit polls it's a huge amount that support her. In a Nevada interview one latin guy was trying to explain why he or his friends wont vote, and he wanted to say race but couldn't so he had no reason why he didnt want to vote.

  • Unfortunately the race and gender do play a part. When you look at the exit polls, or interviews. Woman have felt empathy for Hillary, Hillary is no dummy she's very good at deceiving people, I wont fall for her shit, but she cries in NH, then goes on Tyra day before the caucus and talks about Bill's adultery.

  • Veracifier - this is pathetic.

    Shame on you.

  • Strike 1 Veracifer....

    I have no idea what I just listened to or why this badly recorded person over the phone is relevant.

  • This was a Clinton campaign phone call that went out in Nevada this past week. It was on Google News if you would care to investigate.

  • McCain is going to be our next president. If the Dems had shown some foresight and gone for Edwards we would have a much needed Democratic president. Instead they went for Hillary who has ZERO chance of winning the general election. Bookmark this thread. I BLAME THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS FOR THE NEXT REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. You folks really are clueless when it comes to politics. We could have won this thing. Instead we're gonna be stuck w/ another Republican disaster.

  • racist country. they would never elect a black man

  • Keep your racist card to yourself. It makes you look altogether srupid and ignorant. Barack ran a competent campaign and those who appreciated his message,black or white voted him. If they happen to be not the majority, it does not make it another stupid racial issue.

  • I can't hear this call, but here's real, legitimate criticism of Obama's advisers (advisers, who we know, are very influential in how a presidency is run.):

    /watch?v=5uUHX2QMA5g

  • you guys cannot find anything to quote him on or find any wrongs abt him, now you are fabricating .shame on you

    we need our president to be an honest,inspiring man. i bet none of you can even answer that simple question.WHAT DONT YOU LIKE ABT SEN.OBAMA, WHAT ISSUE SHOULD U CARE ABT THAT HE IS WRONG ABT, WHAT DO ANY OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE ON HIM?

  • i have watched interviews of whites who have prayed along with blacks into that same church,and come on.how old are we?to understand y afro-americans use the word black so much,u have to put urself in their shoes.u have to accept that white america was a racist country and have committed so many actrocities against black.think abt slavery, segregation,the kkk ,white suppremacists, the idea that blacks were inferior

  • Again, if you wish to debate this issue you need to try not to be bias, try to be neutral and understanding. When Slavery ended, there was no plan by the government to integrate blacks into American society, those blacks who were slaves for 100s of years were suddenly told that they were free, they didn't have anything, they didn't give them land to harvest, they weren't allowed to go to school at first, there was nothing for them to do.

  • When Europeans came to America ,the government distributed land to them, they were allowed to be Americans, that wasn't the case for blacks. Instead they had the KKK, the JIM CROLL law and so so.Few blacks had access to education, most either had to become housekeeper of their former masters, or move to rural areas to work in factories. I don't need to give you a whole history lesson, but yeah...the fact is black and white didn't start on the same page

  • And in this era, of course Americans have become less racist than they were 50years ago, but I still think on a governmental level, things haven't changed that much, I think our government could have done better than they are doing now, they could invest in communities that need it the most, they should sponsor more programs, give tax free to companies that go into those communities and give jobs, fight effective against crimes and promote higher education, then the healing process will start

  • There are Hispanic churches that require you to be Hispanic. There are White Gurudwaras (Sikh place of worship and yes I am a Sikh), Arab/ Turkish / South Asian mosques... So by your definition are they racists for accepting people of their race for worship?

  • PreetSG: As far as Christianity is concerned, anyone who does not allow another race into their church is racists & clearly not following God's word.

  • Come on! Only you have the right to interpret God's word and others have not? Only you got the right to believe what you want and the others cannot. Obama's church is one of those that take care of their rights and that of their believed "calling of Africa" where they believe they need to "save" people there. That is the reason they ask for blacks only. I may disagree but I respect. Those guys are not racist at all...

  • Yea...I'm real sure a "White Only" Church would go over real well

  • There are! Italians only, French only and so on... You really need to open your eyes man!

  • I've never heard of a church such as that. A VERY basic Biblical principle is to spread the gospel to 'everyone'. So are you seriously saying that a "white only" church...say in South Carolina...with a rebel flag waving, would be acceptable to most? I think not. And that is a very fair comparison to Obama's church w/being proud of "heritage".

  • Rebel? Heard of the Confederate flag? That is much nearer to a rebel causes. And it what way is Obama's Church a rebel one? People interpret the Bible differently and it is their business to do so. If there is a Church in South Carolina with that only accepts Swedish, so be it. There already are French ones in New Orleans...

  • PreetSG: You need to study the history of the rebel flag. It is about heritage. Secondly, there is NOTHING to 'interpret' in the Bible about speaking the Gospel to all. I was comparing to a church that promoted "white power". It would not be tolerated & you know it. Al Sharpton & his posse would be all over that. You have lost this argument.

  • NOTHING to interpret in the Bible? Man you are screwed up. No one talks about white/black power tolerance or whatever. Obama church DOES NOT support black-supremacy, it is one of the churches that wishes to "save Africa again"... Anything else?

  • PreetSG: I'm not screwed up....ask any Christian if a basic Biblical principle is spreading the gospel to ALL...it's not up for interpretation. Again, you obviously know nothing about the history of the rebel flag...it is about heritage, just as Obama's church promotes.

  • so what?

  • y2k: it may not matter to you, but it does to many

  • Sounds like Rove's writing.

  • Don't give up hope! Even tho Hillary took Nevada, Barak Obama has MORE DELEGATES

  • Disgust is the only proper response.

  • Barack Obama / Jim Webb 2008!!

  • Who says the Anti-Christ has to be a man.

  • If they had planted it they would have left the racism in and left the lobbyist out.

  • omg! no call the fone company guys they can't do dis 2 barack

  • what the hell does this even mean? how is someone's voice mail message proof of anything? This is ridiculous...yeah i know, it is hard to dig up dirt on Obama... who is probably the most honest, by the far the most intelligent, and easily one of the most bipartisan contenders.

    Yeah I know you guys like Ron Paul, but I really don't know how secure I would feel by eliminating the Fed... seriously... why would you do that?

  • Because every dollar printed by the FED has interest. That means every dollar printed comes with an auto-debt. JFK planned to do away with the FED and bring in silver-backed currency. You know what happend to him.

  • what does that mean? auto-debt? what's wrong with the fed controlling the money supply? You don't think someone needs to do it?  You don't think that sometimes interest rates need to be lowered to fight a recession? You don't think that sometimes rates need to be lowered to fight inflation?

  • I understand that there are arguments against it, but I can't begin to understand yours. Yes, i think Bernanke is full of shit a lot of the time, and that he succumbs media and political pressure, but the markets would completely crash if the fed were dismantled.

  • i'm arguing against the fed because of lack of transparency and lack of oversight. you really feel comfortable with a secretive group determining the financial future of your country? don't you think there should be some substance behind currency? how do you feel about your income tax not being appropriated? where do you think it goes?

  • Most of those arguments are a little more sound than previous, other than your last question. The fed has nothing to do with income taxes.

    Also, I know, it is worrisome, their lack of oversight. At the same time,however, they need autonomy to make important, unbiased decisions. Granted the decisions sometimes are tinged with bias.

  • as far as dropping the gold standard, i was concerned about that when i first learned of it, but we're not the first society to give something value because we say it has value

  • It is called fiat currency. Not the first country as you say but look at what happened to the other countries that tried it in the past.

  • tinged with bias doesn't help me sleep a night.

    um, and on the FEDERAL income tax. the FEDERAL income tax was created to pay off the interest the gov't owes on the money they have borrowed from the FED. that's why it is not appropriated- so you can't see where it goes. Just keep printing that money boys!

  • what are you even talking about at this point? how else do you want the gov't to have income other than by taxing? Listen to me... you need to learn, you can't just read conspiracy websites. I'm sorry man, but tax is in the constitution. Although the gov't isn't using a lot of the tax money for legite purposes, to say that the gov't needs no tax is ridiculous.

  • If the Fed was constantly getting investigated, it would surely succumb to major political pressure, and make political decisions (ie income tax.. no one will make flat income tax, everyone wants cuts at top or bottom). It would be a catastrophe for a "growth" political debate... this country doesn't really know much about econ. .

  • I agree that there are major potential problems with the fed, but I don't know how to solve them, and I think eliminating the fed would do more bad than good.

    Please don't take this is a condescending way, but if you have not, and you are in college, you should take a few economics classes. If you have a good professor, he'll introduce you to multiple arguments and understandings regarding monetary policy.