Obama is uneducated, meaning, he does not have the wherewithall to assess situations clearly and deeply. The notion that "compromise" at any cost, is a plausible strategy, to the point of being totally unprincipled, shows a man that has never learned the lessons that life teaches most of us. Whatever his credits may be, he misses the big point and becomes an embarrassment to the nation and a complete failure as president of the USA. The GOP are even worse, making this an extremely sad time.
I feel this piece ignores one important distinction: The American people, statistically, ARE less divided than they seem. Center-left majorities exist on most major issues. Obama accurately observed this, rhetorical quibbles aside. That's a good thing.
His error was in thinking that the modern Republican party gives a shit. They've been gleefully proving him wrong on that point ever since.
Does anyone ever feel lost or stupid because you feel like you don't know enough? We get pieces through news but is there something that contains all of these events. For example what exactly caused the 2008 recession or what caused the attack on 9/11. I want to be very politically educated and I don't know how to go about it? What should I read as far as books, websites, or forums to get smart?
@Shnimberz Read the communist manifesto and work from there. Control of money and an unequal distribution of wealth is the root cause of most problems in the world.
@Shnimberz You can start with wikipedia. They give a nice synopsis for pretty much everything. As for the 2008 recession, watch the movie "Inside Job". As for 9/11, google "Skeptic Project" and choose the first link (they critically analyze, in full detail with heavy citation, all sorts of conspiracy theories, including jfk, ufos, and the like)
@Shnimberz I would suggest you go on wikipedia and go on ~"the history of humanity, start skimming through articles to get a basic idea fo development, then look up major figures across all sides of the spectrum, listen and read their arguments, download books online (kind a piracy but who cares its info, some of it is free, try wikisource and go to a library maybe) remeber to completely criticise every single viewpoint and analyse it and that is the best thing to do,
he's saying that that is how people characterize the united states- he's not arguing that it's true. he doesn't actually equate them, he just thinks that others do
even though I agree with his claim that obama is much more rightwing than many people think (did us progressives already know that?) ben mankeweicz is a complete moron for this wholly confused and silly analysis.
Lamar Smith is the Author of those BILLS…… research him and SPREAD THIS VIRAL. PLZ… this has much more to do with blackmail on the political spectrum, Lamar Smith is the CEO/Chairman of the board of Reps in the House of Congress. He keeps his moves silent and hurts many, he is BIG TIME invested and partnered with the private Prison industries nationwide and is connected Federally with the other top notch scumbags ripping off America and the world with the failed war on drugs.
I guess the education I receive in the schools of this rural conservative town serves me well. I never noticed Ben using the "big words", some here complain about. No wonder those in the National, and State Capitals often appear ignorant. We may have a situation of the ignorant voting in the ignorant into office. Sheet we are screwed.
Obama created a bridge alright. The cartoon character with his hands on one side, and his feet on the other. With Republicans walking on his back to get where they wanted to go
I believe the point of his quotes for the comparison is how these separate entities are viewed as from each other's side; not to be viewed from the middle looking at both sides.
@bluesenshi it depends on what you consider right, this left/right bullshit is a joke, both parties are the same, the only thing that differs is certain individuals within them.
That's 1 of the things that's frustrating to me. Why won't Obama understand, the republicans WILL NOT work w/ you! Grow some balls and make some boss moves
My god. They are like children. Obama's the sweet kid who wants everyone to be friends and the republicans are ignorant bullies who just take advantage of his kindness and then spit on him.
His obsession with being exactly in the middle without thinking through on what is the better position to take is easily his biggest flaw.
In his mindset everyone is either at the far-left or the far-right, and considering that he's aware of how people deem him a Liberal, he tries harder to appease the latter to look more like a moderate, with disastrous results. In the end he may as well be a Republican.
What bullshit! TYT is becoming like the NY Times. I don't come here to watch left leaning news - I come here to watch balanced coverage!! Bring back Cenk - I am tired of the lefties!
Thumbs down. Obama is not stupid, he know's they're being obstructionists to everything, it was obvious from very early on. PERHAPS Obama once thought that uniting the two parties was feasible, but not now. Now he's a lying corrupt conservative who fought for the ability to indefinitely detain americans. You do everyone a disservice by claiming he means well. He's not tripping up by accident, he's going down because the game's fixed and that's his role.
"religious zealots" is the the term to use BECAUSE it "diminishes people of great faith"
faith is not a virtue. it is a synonym for ignorance. it is the go-to cop-out for every religious zealot cornered by evidence and reason - the last excuse to submit one's intellect to improbable and unproven superstitions and myths.
the faithful must be quarantined for the protection of our species.
@manonthemount WTF ? Faith a synonym for ignorance ? please use google for something useful and look for names of the most inteligente people through human existence and you will see what a bs statement you gave ... OMFG
@fackafacka Intelegente? I have no hate for religious people, but faith is to believe with no evidence. There are intelligent Christians/Deists who have been indoctrinated, but there are also tons of agnostics (unsure of the existence of God; lacking faith) and atheists that are brilliant. Einstein, Dawkins, Hawking, Democritus, Darrow, Pauling, Steven Weinberg, Carl Sagan, Turing, Bertrand Russell, Dirac, Ayn Rand, Chomsky, Richard Feynman and Peter Higgs. So it is a little valid
@logicaquebrada85 Einstein was a man of great faith. Since you clearly state he is an atheist as an example only goes to make your whole post seem false.
But I agree there do exist smart atheist, much like there exist good people who are Raider fans.
@mezcao He was an agnostic. He stated, "I came, though the child of entirely irreligious (Jewish) parents—to a deep religiousness, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of twelve" "I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it."
@logicaquebrada85 "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
@logicaquebrada85 What part of any of these quotes shows great faith? It was great faith in the world as has revealed itself, not some faith in a deity that he spoke of. He called the belief in a personal God "naive or childlike"
@mezcao when speaking that quote Einstein was talking bout a theory that he had come up with to rebuke a Neils Bohr theory on atoms...it turns out Neil Bohr was correct and Einstein was indeed wrong on his theory
He said that referring to Quantum Mechanics and its random nature. With string theory now a prevalent theory it looks as if Einstein is correct. I have no idea where you obtain your misinformation.
@manonthemount Your parroting the 'point' of every atheist who thinks he knows something. You're not filled with revelation - you're actually a pretentious dick.
@JJAB91 Believing in something with no evidence, actually great amounts of evidence to the contrary, should not be socially acceptable once a person reaches the age of reason.
@ninjapig2011 Considering no one knows what is truly beyond the Universe or what exactly started the Big Bang then the concept of a God or Gods is no less strange than anything anyone else can think of.
@bobbytiger Education is overrated? Are you for real? The reason 'the west' has been so powerful and innovative can be directly correlated to science education. Now some factions in the west are trying to insist mythology be taught in science classrooms. Terrifying. FYI Education would go a long way towards getting people in the 'third world' to IDK wear a rubber, for example.
Check out this article in Forbes Google' Forbes Danger: America Is Losing Its Edge In Innovation' Thanks.
I agree Obama's "peacemaker" attitude towards Republicans was extremely frustrating to witness. It wasted a lot of time, however it was the right thing to do.
His Ignorance? Or our failure of political. This is why I cannot stand the Young Turks spin on Obama--- blaming him for aspiration of being a leader who finds common ground? Your interpretation of what would be possible if Obama was full on left -- has always been twisted.
He wants us to find the center--- and we blame him for it?
@garrygolden I agree to a significant extent but some of his decisions are unfathomable regardless of reason, such as NDAA and granting civil immunity to the banks that caused this crisis
@garrygolden how about 75% of the things he promised to make better he never even tried? for example he 'wanted' to raise minimum wage... he has the power and hasnt even tried. Hes a puppet for comprimise and just gives in to the republicans and democrats alike.
To make a lot easier to understand, the republicans are bent on political stance but the other hand there more greedfull for money and position. The whole conservative and moral thing are a facade for these scum-bum Reputards. Same goes for some Democrats, some. To end this two-party collusion, is time to vote for other political parties that are grassroot and origin. STOP VOTING FOR THE SAME PARTIES. PERIOD!!!
I think you miss the core at Obama's philosophy - as Lincoln did he "appeals to the better angels of our nature".
Maybe it's naive but it is the "hope" that there is good in the men and women we elect to lead our nation; that these same men and women will work toward the "greater good."
Citizen's United and the lack of cooperation fm Congress may have tarnished his rose colored glasses, but I think he still has hope for Bi-partisanship.
Maybe he really believes he can be a The Uniter. I hope so.
Obama is bad, but come on comparing him to Lincoln?. He's not that bad... yet.
Don't believe a thing you read in history books, Lincoln was quite genocidal. A war, completely avoidable that took the lives of 600,000 Americans, just for the sake of creating a centralized government.
As for your idolatry of Obama, don't fool yourself.
It's not bi-partisanship his problem, it's his own party who constantly reject his policies, like his 'jobs' plan.
It's been a long time since I studied the Civil War, but I AM familiar with the revisionist history the bigots of many southern states want to promote that suggest States Rights were the real reason behind it.
There was an institution that built many nations and it was known as slavery. It took several legal overhauls to get us to today - Civil Rights being one of the most recent and painful.
To suggest that Lincoln was somehow less because the task was so huge is ignorant.
To say the war was fought over slavery, when we have Lincoln saying that he couldn't care more about the slaves, as long as he kept the 'union' together, is ludicrous.
If slavery was such an issue, why didn't Lincoln let the South secede?.
With letting them secede, you effectively get rid of slavery in the United States overnight.
Maybe even negotiate with them, and offer to pay for the slaves?, like the REST of the entire world did to get rid of slavery?.
Why do you assume such prejudiced and bigoted position yourself?.
To qualify everyone who disagrees with the historically fallacious arguments taught in our schools about the civil war, as bigots, is beyond stupidity.
Have you met me?, do you know ANYTHING about me?. What makes you think I'm a bigot?.
As Napoleon said: history is written by the victors.
And?. It's a youtube glitch I had for years, every time I change it reboots. But what does that have to do with anything?.
Were you aware that the whole anti-slavery issue was a genius political move on Lincoln behalf to prevent European powers from openly favoring the South?, as well as hide the more... imperialistic aspects of his domestic policies.
Look - I am honest enough to admit that I am limited in my knowledge - but I'm not so gullible to believe what someone who disagrees w/me on YouTube states to be factual.
As I pointed out before - There are many bigots from the south who would love to slime Lincoln and I'm much more inclined to believe that you're of that ilk (astonishing that you're also apparently educated - yes, stereotyping - it happens).
There is plenty of bad info to go around on Google as well.
And I'm not ashamed to be lacking in facts about the Civil War - that's NOT my strong suit. I simply don't accept YOUR version based upon what I DO know.
I am a voracious reader - esp. non-fiction - and I probably will delve more deeply into this subj.
And, as a champion "doubter", the true beauty of it is that when I educate myself it's so much easier to poo-poo the ridiculous when it crosses my path.
So you're saying, that if something doesn't fit your already heavily biased indoctrinated view of reality (don't worry we all have them), you automatically 'poo-poo' them as ridiculous?.
How can you tell it's ridiculous to start with?.
I didn't ask for you to google revisionist re accounts, I asked you to google facts.
Like the Lincoln quotes I've posited.
Could I persuade you to read this?, it's pretty short.
I don't favor versions, I favor facts, historical facts.
The truth is, we're obsessed for some unknown reason to me, to acknowledge our past, try to change it to favor sides.
To make one side the clear 'good guys', and the other the clear 'bad guys'. This seldom every happens in life, much less in history.
I'm curious, as to why you don't argue the facts and quotes I presented, yet insist on holding into indoctrinated views as 'truth'. Why don't you read Lincoln yourself?.
The history the rest of us have come to know must have been fiction according to you.
There is plenty of corroboration - both written in personal histories and in the congressional record - that's what made Ken Burns series so quintessential.
Would you like to read a German history book from the Nazi perspective?
Would you be amazed if I told you the 'racist' movement used to be part of the Democratic party?
There's a great book by Orwell, which elucidates this point, it's called 1984. It shows how governments, and nations have immense requirements for 'changing history' to fit their views. So we can accept their totalitarianism easier
You honestly didn't read past the link. And it clearly shows.
1. It was written last year, not 30 years ago.
2. It does not favor any position and reprimands both the South and the North, is an anti-war position.
3. This bickering is frustrating you, because you seem to believe that being steadfast in what you already acknowledge as lack of understanding, is something to strive for?.
Go read it, come back, tell me when it favors the South.
"1984" by George Orwell was first published in 1949.
Maybe you've confused the order of the posts and think I responded to your suggestion written by Swanson - I'll give you that. And maybe you need to be more patient while awaiting replies.
The frustration is in your pressing for internet-speed comprehension when I've conceded lack of knowledge as well as a distrust of internet facts.
Can you blame me?, I get 'touchy' when people who I don't know, nor have ever met, call me a bigot for doubting what passes for 'history' in our highschools, or quoting political figures.
Given how governments love to spread mis-information.
I'd hardly call 1984 'minutiae found on Google'... well, if you do just don't tell the SOPA guys.
Nah, nonsense stop being paranoid. I'm not Swanson. But just thought you might like an anti-war perspective for the civil war.
'Facts are too serious'.
They are, like those Lincoln quotes, the fact that Lincoln refused to negotiate, the fact that the manipulated tariffs to hurt the North, the fact the the North manipulated interest rates to hurt the South.
Look at the results, you insist on separating North vs South, in 2012. And attribute labels such as bigots and racist to Southerners. That's what I hate about mis-information, it only spreads prejudices.
If we have to known false accounts of history, then we should educate ourselves.
I do not favor the Southern states implementing policies such as getting rid of the word 'slavery' from history books.
Lincoln was a puppet for the corporate interests of that time (rail companies).
He enforced draconian measures on the South, preventing them from developing industries and from even having their own banks. Forcing the South to be dependent on slave labor.
He did not care for slavery, you can find his quotes on the matter.
He was an anti-Jeffersonian candidate, he refused to let the South secede (which would've ended slaver in the Union).
As a result of his megalomania, over 600,000 Americans died in a senseless and costly civil war that created huge tensions between the South and the North, tensions that persist to the date and fostered several discrimination policies.
Whereas for a fraction of the total cost, you could've bought the slaves and released them.
But again, he refused to even grant a hearing to the South, for exercising their constitutional right to secede, the very foundation of this country.
@Changesomething101 dude no mainstream media is liberal stop being naive. they may ACT liberal but they are't really, just look at obama and the democrats
We need to dump the right and left titles. Both are for big government. One more focused on welfare and other more focused on warfare, but both parties have vested interested in governments role in both areas. The debate should be over solutions, and if after an honest debate between the two parties governments role should be determined, and embraced by both.
Perhaps he thought he could reach out.. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to realize they should give up on something. .This happened to me with my old job. I kept thinking I could reach out to my boss and improve relations. It took me years before I realized it was a complete and utter waste of time..
He sounds like a western social democrat. Social democrats used to be very moderate socialists, but they based their believes in compromising with the right-wing. In the end social democracy degenerated into right-wing liberalism! No longer were social democrats champions of the working class. The Democratic Party is no party of workers or poor people. Obama was never about change and I said that in 2008. But nobody wanted to hear me. Ralph Nader was the only progressive candidate.
''She wanted a bigger stimulus package.'' I can't be the only one that chuckled at that, I can't be the only asshole in here that thought that was funny.
Many gay activists ARE extremists. They have the "either you are with me or you are against me" attitude.
I personally do NOT give a damn about gay right or gay marriage. I do not care either way. Yet gay ex-friends keep shoving the issue in my face. When I tell them, "I really do not care about this issue," they would become hostile and insist on getting into some rhetorical BS to waste my time and patience, "So you don't care about equal rights?" That kid of attitude *is* extreme.
@ktchong To not care about the issue IS to take a position. Even if you aren't actively fighting to uphold inequalities, you are passively accepting them and that is still part of the problem. It doesn't give people the right to be hostile towards you, of course, but you might want to reconsider what it really means to think that it doesn't matter either way.
@kmstrothergarcia There's A LOT of issues I don't give a damn about. I don't care about saving the whales or dolphins. I don't care about gay marriage. I don't care about the Jews and Muslims bloodbath in some faraway land. The long list of issues just go on and on. My life is too short for me to give a damn about every issue out there that does NOT directly concern me. Yet every "activist" demands me to prioritize her issue. How about just leave me alone?
@kmstrothergarcia You attitude is no different from the obnoxious Jesus freaks who just want to shove the Bible in my face (because that is the issue they care about.) You are as much as an extremist and fundamentalist as the conservatives and evangelists are. You just have different issues -- BUT YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME EXTREMIST ATTITUDE.
@WilhelmDrake Perhaps use words more commonly used and if he spoke a bit slower I could connect the dots.
Here is the issue: Cenk doesn't use all these technical words and business terms.
Which is why I understand everything Cenk says.
As he doesnt talk non stop mentioning this deal and this deal and that term and this term without explaining WHAT THIS DEAL is or what that TERM MEANS.
People still defending Obama... sigh. Call a spade a spade, please. Sheesh. Ben's analysis may be shallow, but Obama IS a centrist, which in itself displays a lack of understanding about the political landscape. His strategy has utterly failed. Consensus decision-making only works if you're dealing with people who haven't already entrenched themselves completely in fickle ideology - if you're dealing with people who are not BOUGHT by special interests. I'm talking both sides here.
@myheartspits thats true but look at the other presidential candidates its ether someone who is a centrist or right wing extremist, agree or disagree with obama u have to agree that he is better then the other candidates
@myheartspits Obama had a super majority 1st half of his presidency but was so entrenched w/ consensus bipartisanship he failed 2 deliver proper healthcare, banking & economic reform..Now he's trying to be the liberal progressive he was elected as, without any backing..He had 2 be more liberal 1st half & more of a centrist 2nd half...talk about getting your wires crossed
I think Ben is taking this quote out of context, not on purpose though. He's speaking as a republican there. Republicans DO bitch about those things constantly.
Ben you suck. Seriously you suck. Your not a journalist you are a very opinionated ass who pretty much knocks stereotyping yet does it over and over again. Your views on politics come out like they are the masses views but it is hardly that. Then you try and pull random statistics and use them out of context to prove a point. Fuck you dude. The pussy you fuck is tainted.
I believe Dave Chappelle once said, "Never be the first black man to do anything, the first time a black man does something it is always a terrible story." Or something along those lines.
Ben's clueless--and he thinks Obama doesn't get it? The quote from the book was obviously meant to describe each pole's perspective. He wasn't making a false equivalence between fox and NY times. He was saying conservatives SEE the Times in the same way that liberals SEE Fox. Whether one group is wrong is irrelevant--the point is that the two viewpoints are irreconcilable. Ben's funny but too shallow for serious analysis.
@TheYoungTurks Ben...just dumb. Yes, civil rights activists were extremists! The problem is that extremism is usually immediately viewed as being a bad thing, which is the mindset that leads people, like Obama, to commit the "golden mean" fallacy--which is the fallacy that the "middle ground" is always the desirable position. Extremists need to be evaluated on the values they stand for, not the fact that they are extremists. So thanks for contributing to the mindset you were trying to criticize.
@TheMidwestAtheist Simple minds see the world in black and white, an educated mind knows the world is gray. Extremists on the right or left are always simple minded idiots, regardless if they're refusing to shower, eating tofu and chaining themselves to oak trees- or whether they are gun carrying, buffalo riding, rednecks- lynching gays...
A soft mind clings to ideals, and is unable to adapt to opposition- so they take the furthest stance from the opposition.
Most polarized since the 1890's and what happened at the end of the 1800's? Black people were freed from slavery. Seems logical that the same type of bigots would be against anything the first black president offers up.
It is all well and good at this point in time to say this or that was a mistaken belief. But I, for one, LIKE the fact that he GAVE THEM A CHANCE to be reasonable, rather than presuming the worst. Makes his case stronger now, in my view. And I'm not convinced it was all done in ignorance or as a mistake, as the article and this reporter would have us believe. We have such an amazingly short attention span; some things just require a longer term view.
Ok, so Obama lost his presidential political virginity to political rape. I don't care! Will he do better then the others that are in the running, that's all I care about...
We really didn't pay enough attention to this several years ago. Obama, with his vapid View from Nowhere paradigm. The idea that the far left and far right are pulling us apart. Yeah, that evil, overbearing far left with all it's power in Washington. This bullshit is exactly the viewpoint the right wing- which is really not even ideological, just bought and paid for and includes both parties- wants us to have.
Obama is uneducated, meaning, he does not have the wherewithall to assess situations clearly and deeply. The notion that "compromise" at any cost, is a plausible strategy, to the point of being totally unprincipled, shows a man that has never learned the lessons that life teaches most of us. Whatever his credits may be, he misses the big point and becomes an embarrassment to the nation and a complete failure as president of the USA. The GOP are even worse, making this an extremely sad time.
TotalImplosion 1 week ago
OBAMA WAKE UP FIGHT THE RIGHTS DON'T JOIN THEM!!!
TheOnlySamSinno 4 weeks ago
GOOD JOB BEN " OBAMA FAIL HE WAS JUST TO GOOD FOR THE BAD GUYS " .....
stonethugmusic 1 month ago
Hey Ben, excellent report I thought.
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It took Obama 4 years to realize that Republicans hate his ass? not very bright
etazra78 1 month ago
Seems like Obama is a dumbass.
HeedAndSucceed 1 month ago
I feel this piece ignores one important distinction: The American people, statistically, ARE less divided than they seem. Center-left majorities exist on most major issues. Obama accurately observed this, rhetorical quibbles aside. That's a good thing.
His error was in thinking that the modern Republican party gives a shit. They've been gleefully proving him wrong on that point ever since.
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This was one of the best segments I've ever seen Ben do since I started watching TYT back in 2007. Very nicely done.
DRok112 1 month ago
Ben talks way to much without getting out the information clear enough.
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Who the fuck is Brocco Bahu
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This host gets paid by the word.
hofifut 1 month ago
Does anyone ever feel lost or stupid because you feel like you don't know enough? We get pieces through news but is there something that contains all of these events. For example what exactly caused the 2008 recession or what caused the attack on 9/11. I want to be very politically educated and I don't know how to go about it? What should I read as far as books, websites, or forums to get smart?
Shnimberz 1 month ago
@Shnimberz Read the communist manifesto and work from there. Control of money and an unequal distribution of wealth is the root cause of most problems in the world.
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@Shnimberz You can start with wikipedia. They give a nice synopsis for pretty much everything. As for the 2008 recession, watch the movie "Inside Job". As for 9/11, google "Skeptic Project" and choose the first link (they critically analyze, in full detail with heavy citation, all sorts of conspiracy theories, including jfk, ufos, and the like)
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@Shnimberz I would suggest you go on wikipedia and go on ~"the history of humanity, start skimming through articles to get a basic idea fo development, then look up major figures across all sides of the spectrum, listen and read their arguments, download books online (kind a piracy but who cares its info, some of it is free, try wikisource and go to a library maybe) remeber to completely criticise every single viewpoint and analyse it and that is the best thing to do,
JagjeetMann 1 month ago
he's saying that that is how people characterize the united states- he's not arguing that it's true. he doesn't actually equate them, he just thinks that others do
soccasweeti08 1 month ago
what's with the subtitles......?!?! they're never correct and they're distracting
soccasweeti08 1 month ago
even though I agree with his claim that obama is much more rightwing than many people think (did us progressives already know that?) ben mankeweicz is a complete moron for this wholly confused and silly analysis.
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great video. really informative!
pinkycheeks 1 month ago
Ben mentions Geithner, Larry Summers & Rahm Emanuel. All Jews.
Stevie68000 1 month ago
This is EXCELLENT analysis Ben - more like this please...
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Demint started the recession
MelleB90 1 month ago
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Lamar Smith is the Author of those BILLS…… research him and SPREAD THIS VIRAL. PLZ… this has much more to do with blackmail on the political spectrum, Lamar Smith is the CEO/Chairman of the board of Reps in the House of Congress. He keeps his moves silent and hurts many, he is BIG TIME invested and partnered with the private Prison industries nationwide and is connected Federally with the other top notch scumbags ripping off America and the world with the failed war on drugs.
TheFatTurks 1 month ago
Jim DeMint started the recession! -Green
esalim 1 month ago
I guess the education I receive in the schools of this rural conservative town serves me well. I never noticed Ben using the "big words", some here complain about. No wonder those in the National, and State Capitals often appear ignorant. We may have a situation of the ignorant voting in the ignorant into office. Sheet we are screwed.
waswestkan 1 month ago
Obama created a bridge alright. The cartoon character with his hands on one side, and his feet on the other. With Republicans walking on his back to get where they wanted to go
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@waswestkan That was actually really funny i could see it in front of me.
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I believe the point of his quotes for the comparison is how these separate entities are viewed as from each other's side; not to be viewed from the middle looking at both sides.
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Obama's always played to the middle
timoback3000 1 month ago
I think it's a fantasy to suggest that ANY Democratic politician has moved to the left since 1975. All have moved to the right.
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@bluesenshi it depends on what you consider right, this left/right bullshit is a joke, both parties are the same, the only thing that differs is certain individuals within them.
Billywask 1 month ago
That's 1 of the things that's frustrating to me. Why won't Obama understand, the republicans WILL NOT work w/ you! Grow some balls and make some boss moves
mrmikeVIVO 1 month ago
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Obama's balls are in a vault somewhere at Goldman Sachs.
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I think Obama's biggest problem is he's been bought off by big businesses.
seriousguynogames3 1 month ago
My god. They are like children. Obama's the sweet kid who wants everyone to be friends and the republicans are ignorant bullies who just take advantage of his kindness and then spit on him.
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His obsession with being exactly in the middle without thinking through on what is the better position to take is easily his biggest flaw.
In his mindset everyone is either at the far-left or the far-right, and considering that he's aware of how people deem him a Liberal, he tries harder to appease the latter to look more like a moderate, with disastrous results. In the end he may as well be a Republican.
Saaduk92 1 month ago
Just shows you that Obama is totally in the thrall of current conventional wisdom.
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Obama does not give a shit
ufo5147 1 month ago
What bullshit! TYT is becoming like the NY Times. I don't come here to watch left leaning news - I come here to watch balanced coverage!! Bring back Cenk - I am tired of the lefties!
bassaam1 1 month ago
Thumbs down. Obama is not stupid, he know's they're being obstructionists to everything, it was obvious from very early on. PERHAPS Obama once thought that uniting the two parties was feasible, but not now. Now he's a lying corrupt conservative who fought for the ability to indefinitely detain americans. You do everyone a disservice by claiming he means well. He's not tripping up by accident, he's going down because the game's fixed and that's his role.
coolman9999uk 1 month ago
FUCKING YEAH RAINBOW DASH <3333
TinWhiteFB 1 month ago
Still, a lot better than any of the nutjobs running for GOP nomination.
Jostedalsosten 1 month ago
@bobbytiger 110% agree w u
jpego1775 1 month ago
"religious zealots" is the the term to use BECAUSE it "diminishes people of great faith"
faith is not a virtue. it is a synonym for ignorance. it is the go-to cop-out for every religious zealot cornered by evidence and reason - the last excuse to submit one's intellect to improbable and unproven superstitions and myths.
the faithful must be quarantined for the protection of our species.
manonthemount 1 month ago 41
@manonthemount WTF ? Faith a synonym for ignorance ? please use google for something useful and look for names of the most inteligente people through human existence and you will see what a bs statement you gave ... OMFG
fackafacka 1 month ago
@fackafacka Faith is belief without knowledge---ie ignorance.
uutuber431 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@fackafacka three words, westboro baptist church. :)
GuerreBrigadier 1 month ago
@fackafacka Intelegente? I have no hate for religious people, but faith is to believe with no evidence. There are intelligent Christians/Deists who have been indoctrinated, but there are also tons of agnostics (unsure of the existence of God; lacking faith) and atheists that are brilliant. Einstein, Dawkins, Hawking, Democritus, Darrow, Pauling, Steven Weinberg, Carl Sagan, Turing, Bertrand Russell, Dirac, Ayn Rand, Chomsky, Richard Feynman and Peter Higgs. So it is a little valid
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@logicaquebrada85 Einstein was a man of great faith. Since you clearly state he is an atheist as an example only goes to make your whole post seem false.
But I agree there do exist smart atheist, much like there exist good people who are Raider fans.
mezcao 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@mezcao He was an agnostic. He stated, "I came, though the child of entirely irreligious (Jewish) parents—to a deep religiousness, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of twelve" "I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it."
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago
@logicaquebrada85 "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago
@logicaquebrada85 What part of any of these quotes shows great faith? It was great faith in the world as has revealed itself, not some faith in a deity that he spoke of. He called the belief in a personal God "naive or childlike"
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago
@logicaquebrada85
Google "God does not roll dice"
While Einstein may not believe in the trinity, he did in fact believe in a god.
mezcao 1 month ago
@mezcao when speaking that quote Einstein was talking bout a theory that he had come up with to rebuke a Neils Bohr theory on atoms...it turns out Neil Bohr was correct and Einstein was indeed wrong on his theory
isaacdandn23 1 month ago
@isaacdandn23
He said that referring to Quantum Mechanics and its random nature. With string theory now a prevalent theory it looks as if Einstein is correct. I have no idea where you obtain your misinformation.
mezcao 1 month ago
@mezcao "I am a deeply religious nonbeliever". This means his mention of God is merely nature.
logicaquebrada85 1 month ago
@manonthemount Your parroting the 'point' of every atheist who thinks he knows something. You're not filled with revelation - you're actually a pretentious dick.
futurestoryteller 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@manonthemount So anyone who has a religion or is religious is ignorant and needs to be quarantined? What the fuck is wrong with you?
JJAB91 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@JJAB91 Believing in something with no evidence, actually great amounts of evidence to the contrary, should not be socially acceptable once a person reaches the age of reason.
ninjapig2011 1 month ago
@ninjapig2011 Considering no one knows what is truly beyond the Universe or what exactly started the Big Bang then the concept of a God or Gods is no less strange than anything anyone else can think of.
JJAB91 1 month ago
@JJAB91 No less strange, no more true. Pretty much sums it up.
ninjapig2011 1 month ago
@manonthemount Well said, my friend. Well said.
GodlessAndHappy1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
obama is an idealist, not a realist.
TheLazyAngel89 1 month ago
RAINBOW DASH IS BEST PONY
kosomoto 1 month ago
If ron paul doesnt become the next president, we ate still better off with pres. Obama
atista007 1 month ago
this is coming off as brainwashing. I saw this in 2008.
sprish00 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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sprish00 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Ben:
My god man, (small "g" for you non-believers), Jacob Hacker? What other quotes would you expect this radical to provide in his book?
Surely you could find one person, any person, who is not as far left as that Marxist. Just make up a name, anything.
bobbytiger 1 month ago
I can not believe a guy who graduated at the top of his harvard class and became president of the harvard law review, can be this idiotic and naive.
chefawkes 1 month ago
@chefawkes
Education is over-rated. Additionally, book smart and common sence are two different things.
bobbytiger 1 month ago
@bobbytiger Education is overrated? Are you for real? The reason 'the west' has been so powerful and innovative can be directly correlated to science education. Now some factions in the west are trying to insist mythology be taught in science classrooms. Terrifying. FYI Education would go a long way towards getting people in the 'third world' to IDK wear a rubber, for example.
Check out this article in Forbes Google' Forbes Danger: America Is Losing Its Edge In Innovation' Thanks.
sweetmonkeylove1 1 month ago 2
@bobbytiger lol it's hard to take your ideas that education doesn't help as much as common sense... when you spelled sense wrong
supportgoodrap1003 1 month ago
@supportgoodrap1003
Damn. Just goes to show what a liberal big-union "education" can do for ya. To clear the record, let me try again: "cents".
bobbytiger 1 month ago
Lesson learned from this ordeal?
Don't give reach arounds to conservatives.
pooyan6969 1 month ago
I agree Obama's "peacemaker" attitude towards Republicans was extremely frustrating to witness. It wasted a lot of time, however it was the right thing to do.
mmarieden 1 month ago
His Ignorance? Or our failure of political. This is why I cannot stand the Young Turks spin on Obama--- blaming him for aspiration of being a leader who finds common ground? Your interpretation of what would be possible if Obama was full on left -- has always been twisted.
He wants us to find the center--- and we blame him for it?
Obama 2012--- still a big supporter!
garrygolden 1 month ago
@garrygolden I agree to a significant extent but some of his decisions are unfathomable regardless of reason, such as NDAA and granting civil immunity to the banks that caused this crisis
jerzy862 1 month ago
@garrygolden how about 75% of the things he promised to make better he never even tried? for example he 'wanted' to raise minimum wage... he has the power and hasnt even tried. Hes a puppet for comprimise and just gives in to the republicans and democrats alike.
darklord2626 1 month ago
@garrygolden You've said pretty much the same thing I said - worst is the "former" Obama supporters.
Go to What the F*ck has Obama done.com
You will be pleasantly surprised.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
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@garrygolden You've said pretty much the same thing I said - worst is the "former" Obama supporters.
Go to "What the F*ck has Obama done".
You will be pleasantly surprised.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@garrygolden
There is no center. Get your head around it. It's destroy or be destroyed.
okayplayer82 4 weeks ago
I thought this was the "rebel headquarters".
Whats with defending the establishment?
sadfasdf74 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
To make a lot easier to understand, the republicans are bent on political stance but the other hand there more greedfull for money and position. The whole conservative and moral thing are a facade for these scum-bum Reputards. Same goes for some Democrats, some. To end this two-party collusion, is time to vote for other political parties that are grassroot and origin. STOP VOTING FOR THE SAME PARTIES. PERIOD!!!
lapiz4azulli 1 month ago
7:53 "she wanted a bigger stimulus package" LOL
pnoozi 1 month ago
VERY good analysis this time from Mankiewicz....
Zakdayak 1 month ago
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rocky19421 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
i didn't understand one word he said. Talk english, you far left-right upside down conservative big worded dummy
TheEricleeparker 1 month ago
I think you miss the core at Obama's philosophy - as Lincoln did he "appeals to the better angels of our nature".
Maybe it's naive but it is the "hope" that there is good in the men and women we elect to lead our nation; that these same men and women will work toward the "greater good."
Citizen's United and the lack of cooperation fm Congress may have tarnished his rose colored glasses, but I think he still has hope for Bi-partisanship.
Maybe he really believes he can be a The Uniter. I hope so.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Obama is bad, but come on comparing him to Lincoln?. He's not that bad... yet.
Don't believe a thing you read in history books, Lincoln was quite genocidal. A war, completely avoidable that took the lives of 600,000 Americans, just for the sake of creating a centralized government.
As for your idolatry of Obama, don't fool yourself.
It's not bi-partisanship his problem, it's his own party who constantly reject his policies, like his 'jobs' plan.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36 Besides, Obama doesn't wear a funny hat
grlockett 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
You MUST be a troll.
WHY would anyone dis the greatest orator (or close) of the US who also issued the Emancipation Proclamation?
Are you some Aryan Brother type?
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Believe it or not, the world does not fit your narrow minded view of it.
I'm not a troll, and I'm not Aryan, hell I'm not even white.
Lincoln was not a great president, a great orator, yes, but a great president? no.
The Emancipation Proclamation did not outlaw slavery, did not compensate slave owners (to prevent dissent).
The way the North treated the South was appalling, slavery believe it or not, was not the main reason behind the civil war, far from it
Look up some history
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
It's been a long time since I studied the Civil War, but I AM familiar with the revisionist history the bigots of many southern states want to promote that suggest States Rights were the real reason behind it.
There was an institution that built many nations and it was known as slavery. It took several legal overhauls to get us to today - Civil Rights being one of the most recent and painful.
To suggest that Lincoln was somehow less because the task was so huge is ignorant.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
To say the war was fought over slavery, when we have Lincoln saying that he couldn't care more about the slaves, as long as he kept the 'union' together, is ludicrous.
If slavery was such an issue, why didn't Lincoln let the South secede?.
With letting them secede, you effectively get rid of slavery in the United States overnight.
Maybe even negotiate with them, and offer to pay for the slaves?, like the REST of the entire world did to get rid of slavery?.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Why do you assume such prejudiced and bigoted position yourself?.
To qualify everyone who disagrees with the historically fallacious arguments taught in our schools about the civil war, as bigots, is beyond stupidity.
Have you met me?, do you know ANYTHING about me?. What makes you think I'm a bigot?.
As Napoleon said: history is written by the victors.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
And...
I always try to get a picture of who I'm dealing with in these discussions by going to their channel.
Yours says you're from Uruguay.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
'says you're from Uruguay'
And?. It's a youtube glitch I had for years, every time I change it reboots. But what does that have to do with anything?.
Were you aware that the whole anti-slavery issue was a genius political move on Lincoln behalf to prevent European powers from openly favoring the South?, as well as hide the more... imperialistic aspects of his domestic policies.
Coming next, some Lincoln quotes...
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
'If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it ...'
He was a known white supremacist:
'I have never been in favor of bringing about the equality of white and black races.'
'I am not nor have I ever been in favor of equality.'
He used blacks as cover for white soldiers:
'whatever Negroes can be got to do as soldiers, leaves just so much less for white soldiers to do'.
We do those patriots who died in the war a disservice by ignoring history.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Look - I am honest enough to admit that I am limited in my knowledge - but I'm not so gullible to believe what someone who disagrees w/me on YouTube states to be factual.
As I pointed out before - There are many bigots from the south who would love to slime Lincoln and I'm much more inclined to believe that you're of that ilk (astonishing that you're also apparently educated - yes, stereotyping - it happens).
I just plain don't believe you.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
There is nothing to be ashamed about not knowing, if at all you should take it as a motivation to learn more.
But out of curiosity, if you don't know, why are you so eager to qualify people as 'bigots'?.
You don't have to believe me, that's the beauty of it. All I ask of you, is to doubt... simply doubt that, perhaps you weren't told the whole story.
Taking others words on faith, is very dangerous.
The South was not exempt of blame either.
Look it up, that's what google's for
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
There is plenty of bad info to go around on Google as well.
And I'm not ashamed to be lacking in facts about the Civil War - that's NOT my strong suit. I simply don't accept YOUR version based upon what I DO know.
I am a voracious reader - esp. non-fiction - and I probably will delve more deeply into this subj.
And, as a champion "doubter", the true beauty of it is that when I educate myself it's so much easier to poo-poo the ridiculous when it crosses my path.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
So you're saying, that if something doesn't fit your already heavily biased indoctrinated view of reality (don't worry we all have them), you automatically 'poo-poo' them as ridiculous?.
How can you tell it's ridiculous to start with?.
I didn't ask for you to google revisionist re accounts, I asked you to google facts.
Like the Lincoln quotes I've posited.
Could I persuade you to read this?, it's pretty short.
davidswanson[.]org/content/lies-about-us-civil-war-150-years-later
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Are you aware of the revisionist history some of the southern states want to install in the primary school text-books?
What makes YOUR version any better than THEIRS at replacing what many of us have come to know as American History?
I suppose people like Mcpherson and Ken Burns really wrote fiction?
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
I don't favor versions, I favor facts, historical facts.
The truth is, we're obsessed for some unknown reason to me, to acknowledge our past, try to change it to favor sides.
To make one side the clear 'good guys', and the other the clear 'bad guys'. This seldom every happens in life, much less in history.
I'm curious, as to why you don't argue the facts and quotes I presented, yet insist on holding into indoctrinated views as 'truth'. Why don't you read Lincoln yourself?.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Yes, facts.
The history the rest of us have come to know must have been fiction according to you.
There is plenty of corroboration - both written in personal histories and in the congressional record - that's what made Ken Burns series so quintessential.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Are you saying people don't get lied to?.
Would you like to read a German history book from the Nazi perspective?
Would you be amazed if I told you the 'racist' movement used to be part of the Democratic party?
There's a great book by Orwell, which elucidates this point, it's called 1984. It shows how governments, and nations have immense requirements for 'changing history' to fit their views. So we can accept their totalitarianism easier
Are those Lincoln quotes not enough?
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Read it - 30 yrs ago.
George III and his historians have their own version of the colonies revolt as well.
I dont go in for minutiae found on Google and this bickering is NOT doing anything save frustrating me.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Wow... simply wow.
You honestly didn't read past the link. And it clearly shows.
1. It was written last year, not 30 years ago.
2. It does not favor any position and reprimands both the South and the North, is an anti-war position.
3. This bickering is frustrating you, because you seem to believe that being steadfast in what you already acknowledge as lack of understanding, is something to strive for?.
Go read it, come back, tell me when it favors the South.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Uh, excuuuuuse me??!!
"1984" by George Orwell was first published in 1949.
Maybe you've confused the order of the posts and think I responded to your suggestion written by Swanson - I'll give you that. And maybe you need to be more patient while awaiting replies.
The frustration is in your pressing for internet-speed comprehension when I've conceded lack of knowledge as well as a distrust of internet facts.
AND I'm trying to watch "The Ides Of March".
Wow yourself.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Can you blame me?, I get 'touchy' when people who I don't know, nor have ever met, call me a bigot for doubting what passes for 'history' in our highschools, or quoting political figures.
Given how governments love to spread mis-information.
I'd hardly call 1984 'minutiae found on Google'... well, if you do just don't tell the SOPA guys.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Some minutiae is safer than others.
Don't tell SOPA if I do what? Read Swanson on-line?
BTW- are you Swanson? Self-promoting? (Who ARE you?)
I have a feeling I would agree with his writing - esp re. wartime propaganda.
The facts on the Civil War are too serious to allow a scant few minutes of scanning dubious material on-line.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Don't tell SOPA you can read 1984 online :P.
Nah, nonsense stop being paranoid. I'm not Swanson. But just thought you might like an anti-war perspective for the civil war.
'Facts are too serious'.
They are, like those Lincoln quotes, the fact that Lincoln refused to negotiate, the fact that the manipulated tariffs to hurt the North, the fact the the North manipulated interest rates to hurt the South.
Feel free to google these.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Again, the Southern states were not exempt from blame.
They had much to gain by perpetrating the system of slavery, since virtually most of their economy relied on it.
But to say the Civil War was fought to get rid of slavery is akin to Saying we went to war in Iraq, to spread democracy.
There's so much more.
The North never tried diplomacy, sanctions, even morality to try and talk or negotiate out of slavery.
They just went to war.
Doesn't this sound odd to you?.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Look at the results, you insist on separating North vs South, in 2012. And attribute labels such as bigots and racist to Southerners. That's what I hate about mis-information, it only spreads prejudices.
If we have to known false accounts of history, then we should educate ourselves.
I do not favor the Southern states implementing policies such as getting rid of the word 'slavery' from history books.
That's also mis-information.
We must strive to know the truth.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Lincoln was a puppet for the corporate interests of that time (rail companies).
He enforced draconian measures on the South, preventing them from developing industries and from even having their own banks. Forcing the South to be dependent on slave labor.
He did not care for slavery, you can find his quotes on the matter.
He was an anti-Jeffersonian candidate, he refused to let the South secede (which would've ended slaver in the Union).
And refused to even talk to them.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36
Odd that YOUR version of Lincoln's history seems to be missing from the public's general knowledge of him.
Explain THAT please.
Candyliz2003 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
Again, 'explain that please'.
It's not my version, it's actual evidence from the time. I'm not sure what you mean by 'it's missing form the public general knowledge'.
The information is available to anyone who reads a serious history book on the matter.
But if you mean why no one knows about it, it's mainly due to how awful and bias (for American perfectionism) our public schools are.
Besides, 37% of Americans can't find America on the map, does it mean it doesn't exist?.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@Candyliz2003
As a result of his megalomania, over 600,000 Americans died in a senseless and costly civil war that created huge tensions between the South and the North, tensions that persist to the date and fostered several discrimination policies.
Whereas for a fraction of the total cost, you could've bought the slaves and released them.
But again, he refused to even grant a hearing to the South, for exercising their constitutional right to secede, the very foundation of this country.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
Where the hell is CENK! who the fuck is this clown! anna and cenk can only host and should only host
05candyman 1 month ago
@05candyman
cenk sure, but this guy is only a thousand times more educated than ana.
chefawkes 1 month ago
@chefawkes Yeh, but anna is also hot, this guy looks like albert Einstein's ass.
05candyman 1 month ago
@05candyman
gotdammit your right. BRING BACK ANA!
chefawkes 1 month ago
wow, I wonder if this guy is liberal or conservative? New york times NOT liberal?? Are you sane?
Changesomething101 1 month ago
@Changesomething101 dude no mainstream media is liberal stop being naive. they may ACT liberal but they are't really, just look at obama and the democrats
05candyman 1 month ago
@Changesomething101 Have you ever heard of The Young Turks? They're quite open about the fact that they're liberals.
hugoegbert79 1 month ago
subtitles are hilarious!
termantor28 1 month ago
Really interesting.
conrad152 1 month ago
oh please miscalculations? how many miscalculations must he make before this idiot realizes obama is working for the establishment
xxoangel1992 1 month ago
We need to dump the right and left titles. Both are for big government. One more focused on welfare and other more focused on warfare, but both parties have vested interested in governments role in both areas. The debate should be over solutions, and if after an honest debate between the two parties governments role should be determined, and embraced by both.
TheOrdinaryEconomist 1 month ago
Perhaps he thought he could reach out.. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to realize they should give up on something. .This happened to me with my old job. I kept thinking I could reach out to my boss and improve relations. It took me years before I realized it was a complete and utter waste of time..
fizXgirl314 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
LARRY SINCLAIR 2012!!
763873 1 month ago
He sounds like a western social democrat. Social democrats used to be very moderate socialists, but they based their believes in compromising with the right-wing. In the end social democracy degenerated into right-wing liberalism! No longer were social democrats champions of the working class. The Democratic Party is no party of workers or poor people. Obama was never about change and I said that in 2008. But nobody wanted to hear me. Ralph Nader was the only progressive candidate.
UDSS 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
''She wanted a bigger stimulus package.'' I can't be the only one that chuckled at that, I can't be the only asshole in here that thought that was funny.
JimboJ1981 1 month ago
Polarized? The policies of both parties are almost identical, the only difference being in rhetoric.
WilhelmDrake 1 month ago
Many gay activists ARE extremists. They have the "either you are with me or you are against me" attitude.
I personally do NOT give a damn about gay right or gay marriage. I do not care either way. Yet gay ex-friends keep shoving the issue in my face. When I tell them, "I really do not care about this issue," they would become hostile and insist on getting into some rhetorical BS to waste my time and patience, "So you don't care about equal rights?" That kid of attitude *is* extreme.
ktchong 1 month ago
@ktchong To not care about the issue IS to take a position. Even if you aren't actively fighting to uphold inequalities, you are passively accepting them and that is still part of the problem. It doesn't give people the right to be hostile towards you, of course, but you might want to reconsider what it really means to think that it doesn't matter either way.
kmstrothergarcia 1 month ago
@kmstrothergarcia There's A LOT of issues I don't give a damn about. I don't care about saving the whales or dolphins. I don't care about gay marriage. I don't care about the Jews and Muslims bloodbath in some faraway land. The long list of issues just go on and on. My life is too short for me to give a damn about every issue out there that does NOT directly concern me. Yet every "activist" demands me to prioritize her issue. How about just leave me alone?
ktchong 1 month ago
@kmstrothergarcia You attitude is no different from the obnoxious Jesus freaks who just want to shove the Bible in my face (because that is the issue they care about.) You are as much as an extremist and fundamentalist as the conservatives and evangelists are. You just have different issues -- BUT YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME EXTREMIST ATTITUDE.
ktchong 1 month ago
Anyone else that feels difficult to keep up with Ben as he keeps talking and talks fast.
Not to mention he is using a LOT of words that us non native english speakers know.
Like polarization and tons of some mumbo jumbo words.
Cenk atleast could put the words in a way that if you know basic english you could understand him and ana.
Ben? I am just gona stop the video halfthrough as I can't even keep up!
Clanki 1 month ago
@Clanki
He's speaking at about a grade 9 level, how low do you want him to go?
WilhelmDrake 1 month ago
@WilhelmDrake Perhaps use words more commonly used and if he spoke a bit slower I could connect the dots.
Here is the issue: Cenk doesn't use all these technical words and business terms.
Which is why I understand everything Cenk says.
As he doesnt talk non stop mentioning this deal and this deal and that term and this term without explaining WHAT THIS DEAL is or what that TERM MEANS.
Clanki 1 month ago
People still defending Obama... sigh. Call a spade a spade, please. Sheesh. Ben's analysis may be shallow, but Obama IS a centrist, which in itself displays a lack of understanding about the political landscape. His strategy has utterly failed. Consensus decision-making only works if you're dealing with people who haven't already entrenched themselves completely in fickle ideology - if you're dealing with people who are not BOUGHT by special interests. I'm talking both sides here.
myheartspits 1 month ago 21
@myheartspits I agree with you on everything you said. He will always be a centrist that tries appease everyone.
BrooklynJEW7 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@myheartspits
Great points. If you don't mind, I may have to borrow those ideas that you have put forth.
willia3r 1 month ago
@myheartspits thats true but look at the other presidential candidates its ether someone who is a centrist or right wing extremist, agree or disagree with obama u have to agree that he is better then the other candidates
bagofPLMZ 1 month ago
@myheartspits how has he failed?
robman8855 1 month ago
@myheartspits Obama had a super majority 1st half of his presidency but was so entrenched w/ consensus bipartisanship he failed 2 deliver proper healthcare, banking & economic reform..Now he's trying to be the liberal progressive he was elected as, without any backing..He had 2 be more liberal 1st half & more of a centrist 2nd half...talk about getting your wires crossed
emalkin71 1 month ago
this guy sucks, put cenk back on
siamobevutie 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I think Ben is taking this quote out of context, not on purpose though. He's speaking as a republican there. Republicans DO bitch about those things constantly.
koryakapelinal333 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
Ben you suck. Seriously you suck. Your not a journalist you are a very opinionated ass who pretty much knocks stereotyping yet does it over and over again. Your views on politics come out like they are the masses views but it is hardly that. Then you try and pull random statistics and use them out of context to prove a point. Fuck you dude. The pussy you fuck is tainted.
sammallory79 1 month ago
@sammallory79 u mad, bitch?
xCleverlyx 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
the quote from 2:49 is from obamas challange not from audacity of hope
Hansped33 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I believe Dave Chappelle once said, "Never be the first black man to do anything, the first time a black man does something it is always a terrible story." Or something along those lines.
KidOmniMan 1 month ago
Ben's clueless--and he thinks Obama doesn't get it? The quote from the book was obviously meant to describe each pole's perspective. He wasn't making a false equivalence between fox and NY times. He was saying conservatives SEE the Times in the same way that liberals SEE Fox. Whether one group is wrong is irrelevant--the point is that the two viewpoints are irreconcilable. Ben's funny but too shallow for serious analysis.
MrTarinpairor 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@TheYoungTurks Ben...just dumb. Yes, civil rights activists were extremists! The problem is that extremism is usually immediately viewed as being a bad thing, which is the mindset that leads people, like Obama, to commit the "golden mean" fallacy--which is the fallacy that the "middle ground" is always the desirable position. Extremists need to be evaluated on the values they stand for, not the fact that they are extremists. So thanks for contributing to the mindset you were trying to criticize.
TheMidwestAtheist 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 23, 2012
@TheMidwestAtheist Simple minds see the world in black and white, an educated mind knows the world is gray. Extremists on the right or left are always simple minded idiots, regardless if they're refusing to shower, eating tofu and chaining themselves to oak trees- or whether they are gun carrying, buffalo riding, rednecks- lynching gays...
A soft mind clings to ideals, and is unable to adapt to opposition- so they take the furthest stance from the opposition.
Polydynamix 1 month ago
Religious Zealots? Facists will do just fine.
DarkGlitchX 1 month ago
Ben Mankiewicz sorry you do not have the talent to be talkshow host like cenk has, cenk has the skill, you say uh,.. uhh.. too much.
Sorry, but your voice is good though, fix that uh part and you can go far i think
Wtfgames 1 month ago
This guy has his head up his ass. His assessment of the quote from 'Audacity of Hope' is way off base.
bjc2 1 month ago
Mankiewicz disinfo propaganda, we see it.
jaba987 1 month ago
Most polarized since the 1890's and what happened at the end of the 1800's? Black people were freed from slavery. Seems logical that the same type of bigots would be against anything the first black president offers up.
Dahgrostabphri 1 month ago
The recession is Jim Demints fault
bonnevie9 1 month ago
It is all well and good at this point in time to say this or that was a mistaken belief. But I, for one, LIKE the fact that he GAVE THEM A CHANCE to be reasonable, rather than presuming the worst. Makes his case stronger now, in my view. And I'm not convinced it was all done in ignorance or as a mistake, as the article and this reporter would have us believe. We have such an amazingly short attention span; some things just require a longer term view.
dpn48312 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Ok, so Obama lost his presidential political virginity to political rape. I don't care! Will he do better then the others that are in the running, that's all I care about...
TruthatCearcie 1 month ago
We really didn't pay enough attention to this several years ago. Obama, with his vapid View from Nowhere paradigm. The idea that the far left and far right are pulling us apart. Yeah, that evil, overbearing far left with all it's power in Washington. This bullshit is exactly the viewpoint the right wing- which is really not even ideological, just bought and paid for and includes both parties- wants us to have.
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