Alder Valley MCW Metrobus B67 WUL 4 Speed Voith

[Leaside149]

That one and M1342 had 4 speed boxes. Both Metroline. I worked on them M1067 at Potters Bar and M1342 at Harrow Weald. Although it did take a while to get into 4th!

[OoOGuiltyOoO]

love a screaming retarder

[wuffurs]

Dont here it change into fourth.

[zorg007765]

awsom

[295route]

The Cummin engined ones from LT were M1084-1105 and M1442.

[295route]

B84 WUL to B105 WUL were the MK1 Cummun engined Metrobuses, M104 WUL was the one with the suped up turbo. Any idea what the power rating was? Must be about 250 bhp.

[thecompaqguy]

I'm sorry, but that's defo a Voith 3 speed, I couldnt hear a 4th gear...:(

[StephixnxArchie]

have you seen the size of the turbocher on a metrobus it huge

[video47]

Great screaming from this, I always remember the Metrobuses in London going slow in queues, but got some nice fast runs on KYV726X and OJD808Y fast, but I was always upstairs.

[lynxguy1]

this one is a bloody beast, very fast indeed!

[295route]

The fastest ones i drove were M1177, M1180 and M1196. M1180 was always used as a night bus on the N77.

[markthebusman]

That sounds nothing like a Cummins L10. Saying that an low revving Gardner sounds anything like a Cummins L10 is like comparing a Harley-Davidson's engine to that of a Yamaha! Gearbox is making most of the noise, very similar to Dublin Bus KC class with Cummins L10/Voith 3-speed, check out my video and you'll see

[jack253]

This bus sounds exactly like the

Cummins L10-250 engine with a Voith D851.

[NoelAVT]

Well, it is a Gardner 6LXB (170bhp London spec) with a Voith D854.1.

[NoelAVT]

As I am responsible for the day to day operation of this bus (M1067) I can assure you it does not have, and never has had a Cummins L10 fitted. It has a standard Gardner 6LXB and London spec fuel pump. It sounds nothing like a Cummins!!!

M1067 is unusual however in being an ex-Metroline trainer and has a 4 speed Voith in place of the usual 3 speed. Was with London Northern pre-Metroline as far as I know. New in '84 to Clapham for the 249s then spent time at Holloway and Potters Bar as I recall.

[TomMetrobus]

M1084-1105 (B84 WUL etc) were fitted with Cummins L10 units.

[NoelAVT]

M1100 now owned by Atbus is a regular performer on rail replacement services, this has recently been trapped to meet Euro 3 PM for the LEZ so will be around for a few years to come.

[NoelAVT]

As noted it is a factory L10 bus.

[TomMetrobus]

How does it now meet the LEZ?

[NoelAVT]

It has just had £5000 worth of Eminox exhaust trap fitted, a FBC (fuel burning catalyst) system. Note: The FBC liquid is very different to Adblue. M1100 was smoke tested within the last couple of weeks and registered 0.0 so it obviously works!

[295route]

Does that mean you can drive that i London without any emission fines?

[NoelAVT]

M1100 owned by Atbus is compliant to Euro 3 on particulates with the trap fitted so it can operate in the LEZ until Euro 4 becomes mandatory in 2012.

[295route]

Can it not be upgraded to euro 4 after that? (without changing the engine)

[295route]

...and also Mk2 Metrobus M1442 (A442 UUV)

[Biigfish559]

Was 4 speed fitted from new; being a twm engineer know that there were a number of physical differences to accomodate the extra length of the gearbox (On Mark 2's anyway)

[NoelAVT]

No, it was retrofitted by Metroline in the early 90s when the bus became a trainer and the law changed requiring drivers to pass their test in a vehicle capable of 50mph. There was a fair degree of work involved, the propshaft is shorter and one of the chassis members had to be modified. There's also a small box in the saloon by the rear seat adjacent to the emergency exit to accomodate the larger box. Must have cost them a few quid to convert.

[hamsterbus]

Quite a scarce version of the metrobus and I only ever caught one once. I think it was one of these buses C201-10FVU and I think C207FVU was the only one round manchester to enter preservation.

[vjaska]

Does anyone know what london company this MCW was with as Wimbledon was MCW territory.

[TomMetrobus]

I think this was a Leaside one

[vjaska]

Thanks, arriva still have some in leaside livery as i see them operating along brixton hill on training duties.

[NoelAVT]

M1067 was new to CA for the 249s. It was privatised to Metroline, spending time at HT and PB, latterly as a trainer.

[e37405]

hellfire

[e37405]

Jaggass, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. It's easier from the outside but the Voith gearbox and the howling back axle is what you hear the most on Metrobuses.

[NoelAVT]

That's because it's a Gardner 6LXB.

[TomMetrobus]

Between Wimbledon and Earlsfield, the driver really did thrash it and sounded great.

[vjaska]

Where abouts in London was it.

[video47]

Some good screaming there