How to Choose Kitchen Knives : Choosing Kitchen Knives

[jayjaydownunder]

wow i wish i had his set!!!!!

[guofuponh]

NOT THE KNIFE,

IS THE HAND

[dvdfrnzwbr]

My Grandmother cooked every day of her life with a dollar store knife, sharpening stone, and a 8 x 12 bowed/ warped wood plank cutting board. She wanted nothing else and would demand that we return culinary gifts given to her at Christmas.

[kuvtsiscare]

@dvdfrnzwbr That's messed up! Good luck tomorrow..

[arrowbubbles]

Questions about knives - ask Bob Kramer.

[rhk0327]

for people who actually know about knives, visit fred's cutlery forums.

[Barnham100]

i am trying to research about this but i had no idea if i going to buying?

[gothicwitchcraft101]

1:15 lol!

[12absinthe12]

id love to use your japanese santoku knife and stab you with it. your talking out of your ass. your just a cook, not a chef. you dont even knw what the fuck your talking about big boy. piss off will you? please sell those knives and use the money to educate your self with their purpose

[upgrayddable]

@12absinthe12

I don't think a santoku is the right knife for this application. Watch the video again. ;)

[paperchasin23]

this sarkus bitch doesn't know shit

[rcnal22]

Just for clarification, SHUN is owned by KERSHAW, and was originally manufactured in Japan. However, since 1998, there line has been produced in the US. Now this in now way diminishes the quality of it at all since many good products come from their. However, they are not made entirely in Japan!

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 No, Takefu won't even export VG or SG series steel to the US; Shun's knives are still produced in Seki City Japan; unless of course you're talking about Shun's 9900 series, which is made in the US. For Shun's Classic, Kaji, Pro, Ken Onion, Premier, and Elite series; they are all made in Japan, and always have been. Stop spreading misinformation.

[rcnal22]

The average SHUN set does NOT cost over 5G, that's their best set. That's a lie. The average set is around 1500. Cutcos average set is NOT 1G, thats their 3rd largest set out of 15 sets. Their average set is around 600. The bigger set is most popular, but not the only seller. You'll find that all the high end brands are all around the same, with Henckels a little lower than the other store brands because of their lower end lines they make. Cutco is still lower in price though.

[chefgiovanni]

I get my Chef Knives at ChefDepot . c o m , check it out and save $ !

Chef

[zohanthecspro]

@chefgiovanni Any other websites you recommend i buy from?

[rcnal22]

Will Cutco reps stop arguing with people here. It has a forever guarantee, it costs the most to make in the world but costs less on the customers end, ranked 1st overall in all statistics on performance by CATRA, sells the most in North America, performs better and lasts longer than other brands. What more are you trying to prove here. Remember the rule of training; The knives sell themselves.

Here's my advice to you, some people need cutco, some people don't deserve cutco! Move on Folks!!

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 Completely backwards. Cutco is made of stamped 440A junk; it is one of the cheapest knives as far as materials and production costs go. Cutco didn't CATRA test their knives against any top flight competition in their price range or higher. I'm looking at the results right now. It performs worse and wears quicker than most other brands because they use 440A at 55-56 HRC with a hollow grind instead of a full flat grind. The knives only sell themselves to people who don't know about knives

[rcnal22]

@RebelWrestler45

And these results you have somehow are different than the actual data I have in my desk at the moment? Cutco is tested against everything by CATRA. We have the machines in our headquarters that perform the same tests. I think you thought I was just someone speaking my mind. My job is to do actual research on prices and quality and continually provide updates to my staff. I'm going to listen to my 9 years experience in the cutlery field than some random person on youtube.

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 No it isn't, CATRA doesn't provide any knives for testing, the company that is paying for the tests provides the knives; the only knives that Cutco tested were stamped Henckels and Wusthof, Sabatier, and Chicago Cutlery. Even worse, in their outdoor knives, the most expensive knife they tested besides Cutco was a 30 dollar Buck 110. Here's a good test of your knife experience; what does CPM mean? What is the relative wear resistance between D2 and M4 HC steels?

[rcnal22]

And if anyone would like to know the difference between a hollow grind and a flat grind and their pros and cons you can message me. As i mentioned before, knives are my actual business, not a hobbie.

[rcnal22]

@RebelWrestler45

I completely forgot something, CATRA does not release their data to the public. How would a regular person even have access to this info unless they were in the field like say me? Companies would sue big time if that was online. I've got 2 copies of the CATRA results on me vs Henckels, Wusthoff and other brands since we do regular reports on them! Either show some proof or stop spreading your propaganda.

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 You're right, CATRA doesn't release their data, but Cutco does to their employees; I worked for Cutco, during the time where I knew nothing about knives. Companies couldn't sure if this info was online, there would be no grounds; CATRA doesn't release their data, so companies can do what they will with the results. Cutco tested their results against the stamped stuff from Henckels and Wusthof, which are way cheaper than Cutco. No tests against Shun, Global, Kasumi, etc.

[rcnal22]

@RebelWrestler45

I was at the last cutco conference in their corporate headquartes in Olean New York in November. They do testing against all the brands and yes that included SHUN. The only thing they didnt test on are those new rachel ray knives which are selling like crazy. They will for sure this year. Don't go spouting to me your outdated info. SHUN is a relatively new brand in the U.S. And just so everyone knows, SHUN is japanese inspired and made in America.

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 Ok, lets see the results then; shoot me a pm, I'll give you my e-mail address, and send me the results. I had Cutco send me their updated power point; same thing as the old one. And you're completely wrong about Shun; Shun is NOT made in America. They are owned by Kershaw, an American company, but they are made in Seki City, Japan, the bladesmith Mecca of Japan, just like virtually every knife forged out of Takefu steel.

[rcnal22]

@RebelWrestler45

You worked for cutco. Oh say no more then. Your'e one of those reps who complain about the company because they couldn't do well enough. I won't bother to waste any more of your time then.

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 I made a decent amount of money with Cutco; I sold around 4 grand my first ten days, which is pretty decent for a saturated market like Charlottesville, VA. The problem was, that as I worked for Cutco, I was eager to learn more about metallurgy, and knives; once I actually did the research, and had the opportunity to use other brands of kitchen cutlery, I realized what a crock Cutco really is. Again, what does CPM mean? What is the relative wear resistance between D2 and M4 HC steels?

[RebelWrestler45]

@rcnal22 There would be no grounds whatsoever to sue, product tests are ubiquitous. CATRA doesn't release their data to the public, allowing their clients (knife companies) to do what they will with the results. I worked for Cutco, and have their whole power point w/ the CATRA results (both kitchen and hunting knives). Cutco only did CATRA tests on knives way cheaper than Cutco; stamped Henckels and Wusthof, and nothing over 30 bucks for hunting knives. No Global, Shun, Kasumi, etc.

[equitably]

Oh no, not you again! You're so clueless, it actually hurts.

[BTWextreme]

those knives are so pretty

I Just Want To Shank Someone With One Of 'Em

[hendotintco]

I wish I knew it was expert villiage....wouldn"t have wasted my time...!!!...

[kragier]

Pretty sure the last one was a petty and the one before it appear to be a single-bevel gyuto.

Like kloii said, boning knives are not flexible kty

Japanese knives are (imo) the best knives in the world, in both design and material.

Chinese cleaver vs. nakiri, who wins >:O

[onlyfornintendo]

if you want good nives go to korin com.

[tomclunie]

Plonker

[mybabtong]

....... please tell me that you dont use that japanese single sided knife anything other than sashimi.....

[tremain113]

I heard Cutco has the best knives, is this true?

[bobjoemagee]

@tremain113 Cutco has the shittiest and worst made knives available, for an extremely high price

[RebelWrestler45]

@bobjoemagee Not the shittiest, just mediocre blades for an extremely high price. Their marketing schemes are actually more dishonest to the sales rep, than to the target clientele. I left Cutco after selling a few thousand dollars worth of product, because I couldn't be dishonest to the customer by trying to tell them that "440A steel is the finest steel used in cutlery". Personally I prefer Cutco's 440A to harder 420 series (used by Henckels etc.) because of sharpenability and edge fineness.

[Guitarkid97554]

@tremain113

it is true! The knives are great, but the Forever Guarantee is what makes them the best, you can spend upwards of $3,000 on Shun, and if it breaks or needs replacing, you'll pay for replacement. But Cutco are the last knives anyone will ever have to buy!

Shun may have a "Life Time" warranty but you cant pass down a set of Shun to your grand kids and their grand kids and expect them to be covered. That is why Cutco is the best and will always be the best!

[RebelWrestler45]

@Guitarkid97554 What are you talking about? Shun offers a warranty on their blades, and will fix or replace them if damaged during regular use. Last I checked, Shun doesn't have a knife registry, therefore there is no way they could possibly turn down a warranty on the basis of an owner being second generation. Cutco needs their "forever guarantee", because they sell an inferior product, and I am ashamed to say that I once sold their crap to people.

[MrUpgraydde]

Just terrible

[trex250]

No Cutco knives? They are cheap anyhow. Shun RULES.

[jjdurney88]

shuns all the way

[thebigbadburge]

SHUN!!! yessss shun all the way

[Guitarkid97554]

@thebigbadburge

Cutco is twice the quality and 1/3 the price.

[RebelWrestler45]

@Guitarkid97554 Right, so now copper is a more valuable metal than gold, a honda civic is a supercar, and a ferrari f50 is a hooptie. First of all, Shun is only slightly more expensive than Cutco, after the outrageous shipping costs; but what you get, is a knife with cheap, low quality materials and manufacturing processes. 440A is cheap, low quality steel with terrible edge retention. Cutco's plastic handles are cheap injection molded scales, and a hollow grind on a kitchen knife is a no no.

[Guitarkid97554]

@RebelWrestler45 Thermo-resin is not a cheap plastic. it resists melting, chipping, cracking, breaking, fading, staining, and does not absorb moisture.

Shun is good, but the value of Cutco beats everyone. $33,000 in sales proves my point.

[RebelWrestler45]

@Guitarkid97554 Thermo resin is an injection molded plastic, it resists melting, chipping, cracking, breaking, and staining less than other higher quality polymer scales, like g10 and micarta. Once again Cutco's value is terrible, in its price range, one would expect to see at least 440C steel, not 440A crap. Just because you sold a lot of a shitty product, does not mean the product itself is good. Millions of dollars worth of those "miracle blade" knives have been sold on TV, but they suck

[superorgasm]

@Guitarkid97554 400 bucks is not 1/3 of the price.. more like 3/1's of the price!

[Guitarkid97554]

@superorgasm

an average set of shun retails for $5,327

the largest set of Cutco retails for $2,099, Average set is $992

how is $992 3/1's of $5,000?

[RebelWrestler45]

@Guitarkid97554 What are you talking about? An average set of shun costs 600 bucks (equivalent to the homemaker set), and the biggest most expensive set of shun classic on the market is the 'mega set', which is equivalent to the ultimate set of Cutco, which can be bought for under 2000 dollars (with an MSRP of just over 2800). Cutco can only be bought at MSRP, though they might throw in an extra knife or two if you spend enough money on their junk. Don't buy into the crap Vector feeds you.

[JESUSISGREATEST]

@thebigbadburge Santoku all the way

[kloii]

that flexible blade is not a boning knife but a filleting knife. try boning anything big with it and it'll snap in your fingers.

[justgoaz]

@kloii thats what she said