Wow! What a desecration of the aria! Netrebko is living proof that ample T&A will get you places, even in the world of opera. Why oh why doesn't she stay out of a repertoire that she has proven over and over again to be incapable of singing? As far as capable singers of coloratura are concerned, have a listen to Roberta Peter's live 1967 Met version of this aria which has recently appeared here. Marvelous!
Dall'applauso fatto dal pubblico quando l'aria deve ancora finire e in un momento inopportuno, si capisce che si tratta di un pubblico che nemmeno conosce quest'aria il che giustifica altresì il fatto che questa esecuzione venga applaudita. My opinion.
frankly i think those who think it was all perfect singing in the golden age get it wrong. they , for a start didnt have endless recordings to mull over and pull to pieces...the odd great singer was few and far between...even as it is now.
@REBECCAtheSOPRANO I read on Wikipedia that Netrebko *did* sing the Queen of the Night early in her career. If that information is accurate: Mind-blowing.
i think anna is the best soprano of all times,i also have a crush on her, i have compared her with at least twelve , and she is thest overall of all of them.
I don't really understand why she sings this kind of thing, with a voice her size she could easily sing bigger material that doesn't need the agility and she would shine I'm sure!
I think, as most have said, that her problem is her repertoire. Having a big voice is not a problem to sing Gilda; Big-voiced sopranos have sung it (Callas, Moser, Sutherland). The problems here is the agility. i think she should sing Tosca, Mimi, Manon Lescaut: lyric parts; there she would shine.
She's a good singer but no doubt that she can't sing caro nome. Her voice isn't light enough - she didn't even do the stacatto thingy (Leontyne Price neither lol)
I love anna!! She sings my favorite "D'oreste D'ajace"..... but Caro Nome!!! No no no no no 100 times no, she's not a coloratura soprano, I didnt like this version I missed the coloratura parts... This one is not for Anna :(
I prefer this aria with anna netrebko! I wouldn't prefer it with a more ligthly timbre.. it sounds horrible if it's a bright timbre! well, it's my opinon. ;)
Anna ist schön und singt mindestens so schön wie sie aussieht....trotzdem kann ihre Interpretation die göttliche Art von Eglise Gutierrez nicht erreichen. Hört euch das Video an, sie hat wirklich eine fantastische Stimme und kann mit ihr richtig zaubern!!!
Honestly, I heard her sing this live and compared to that performance this is downright good. It was a strange night, the first act including this aria was truly dreadful. Then, miraculously she came in for Act II and sang the rest of the opera like a beast. In a good way that is. Very uneven singing but it definitely had its moments. I didn't feel I'd wasted my money for the ticket, not least of which for the shock value.
why always just Callas? SHE IS DEAD, we live in 2010!!!!! and Netrebko is great, although Tebaldis interpretation is more "Angels`Voice", also Gheorghiu is great. Callas had her good and less good times....so why always just Callas?
@seetsebea1 yes netrebko is part of the new generation but not the best in this aria, the best in this aria is the peruvian soprano eglise gutierrez who is gaining a lot of respect for her unique voice and technique, check her out :D!
@seetsebea1 because if you've got the best you can not settle for mediocre. is not only the callas, you're right! also because it is unthinkable to compare with her, she's from another planet. once the song was taken more seriously, the singers of today (including Netrebko) could not even do the chorus only 30 years ago.
the execution is poor, both in terms of interpretation, above all, from a technical standpoint. Netrebko should change the job, I think!
@seetsebea1 sauf que quand Maria Callas était moins,elle était encore la meilleure.maintanant il faut vivre avec son temps mais il est toujours possible de faire un choix.
After reading all the comments below, the only serious question I have for myself is: would I jump her bones given the opportunity? In a demisemihemidemisemiquaver.
This is her Met Gilda, which was actually very good in all the duets and lyric parts (sometimes really astounding), but her Covent Garden Gilda from the same year was indeed marvelous in every aspects.
yes the problem is that she's so bad in the coloratura parts of any role she sings from Lucia to Gilda to Violetta and Elvira and so on that it makes people forget (and makes her forget too!) that she's "JUST" a lyric soprano MAYBE with some agility but DEFINITELY not a coloratura.
She would be great if she stuck to the lyric roles, I see with pleasure that her schedule for the future has shifted more towards that repertoire.
Yeah, but I can't see how the fact she's "just" a lyric soprano would diminish her talent. She's never as good in coloratura roles as she's in lyric ones, but I must say she's an intelligent singer in all her coloratura roles as far as the more lyrical parts are concerned. In the coloratura, she doesn't shine but is very successful if compared with other real lyric sopranos. Also remind she's quite "unstable": sometimes she has no trills and then she sings perfect trills in another night. :-)
I wasn't actually diminishing her at all that is why I wrote "just". There have been many awesome lyric sopranos. To me she's just an "average" singer atm because she does not use her voice for the right repertoire and she keeps miscascting herself. So she "could" be great.
You say she's unstable, I would say "unschooled". It's not a matter of day off, it's a matter of technique. Same with her problematic High Es. She should stop attempting them high D is the highest safe top note of her range.
I disagree with you on that Anna Netrebko has no school (I mean the vocal technique), she studied singing 10 years. One other thing - every voice has its defects, not all singers respect rules in vocal technique, at least not all rules - that's life etc.
I don't think so - not in the coloratura parts. Tebaldi is better than Netrebko as Violetta, I agree (yet, because her Violetta has vastly improved since the famed 2005 performance, her 2008 performance in ROH was much more interesting). However, she could be average in "Sempre libera", but I heard Tebaldi sing some very insufficient coloratura in other performances. That is not to diminish her, she really had a great limitation in coloratura, but she's still the best lyric spinto ever for me.
I didn't like Tebaldi as Violetta, neither in her Wagner roles Elisabeth and Elsa. Tebaldi was an outstanding Desdemona, Manon Lescaut, Aida, Wally, Cleopatra and Tosca.
For my taste best Tosca ever: Maria Callas...
And you're right, Tebaldi was the best lyric spinto of her time.
@eradesso As much as I appreciate Netrebko's charisma and acting skills, she has, sadly, lowered the bar for opera soprano stardom as well as 'cultured-ness' and class for opera discussion and marketing among audiences. Surely this is not entirely her fault, the industry has been wanting this type of dumbing down to increase sales. I would like this Emperor (empress) without clothes era in opera to end. At least Beczala is coming up to end it for the tenor's side.
@piax00 You are so right - 30/40 years ago sopranos of this calibre would be considered also rans mostly engaged by minor houses or used as stand ins, how standards have been lowered!
@eradesso yes, she is a little "heavy and slow". it is beautifulm though not perfect. i love darker voices... but she should choose better her repertoire. it is just when Diana Damrau sang the queen of the night. i think she goes a bit slow on that too...
Hi thugman30...LOL.. popera style sounds better...you can feel she's unsure, unpronounced, it's flat sing-song. And she has definitely no "Gilda voice".
leoperarm said:"Definitely not the best, but if you like it... " It's only for stiff-necked Netrebko Fans.
Yeah and Netrebko even said in the interview here on youtube that when she started out to sing, people only complimented her on her dresses and it was later on that she said that people talked about her voice. It's all in the marketing that "people" are made to believe that she's flawless.
Non capisco, perché perdere il tempo a intestardirsi su ruoli che non le appartengono e basta?
FloriaTosca90 1 week ago
anna netrebko is a beautiful woman and marvelous singer
sparviero411 3 weeks ago
Wow! What a desecration of the aria! Netrebko is living proof that ample T&A will get you places, even in the world of opera. Why oh why doesn't she stay out of a repertoire that she has proven over and over again to be incapable of singing? As far as capable singers of coloratura are concerned, have a listen to Roberta Peter's live 1967 Met version of this aria which has recently appeared here. Marvelous!
husiatyn 1 month ago
Dall'applauso fatto dal pubblico quando l'aria deve ancora finire e in un momento inopportuno, si capisce che si tratta di un pubblico che nemmeno conosce quest'aria il che giustifica altresì il fatto che questa esecuzione venga applaudita. My opinion.
ferrykalos 2 months ago
frankly i think those who think it was all perfect singing in the golden age get it wrong. they , for a start didnt have endless recordings to mull over and pull to pieces...the odd great singer was few and far between...even as it is now.
tombwomb 3 months ago
So, when do we get Netrebko's Queen of the Night? ;)
CaptFitzbattleaxe 6 months ago 4
@CaptFitzbattleaxe LOL! I know, right? Just cause you're pretty doesn't mean you should sing every aria there is.
REBECCAtheSOPRANO 5 months ago
@REBECCAtheSOPRANO I read on Wikipedia that Netrebko *did* sing the Queen of the Night early in her career. If that information is accurate: Mind-blowing.
CaptFitzbattleaxe 5 months ago
@CaptFitzbattleaxe ...................
REBECCAtheSOPRANO 5 months ago
@CaptFitzbattleaxe LOL! I know, right? Just cause you're pretty doesn't mean you should sing every aria there is.
REBECCAtheSOPRANO 5 months ago 8
terribile
sttar1982 6 months ago
She was supposed to sing Lucia at La Scala in December 2011.
Why now it suddenly appears Don Giovanni instead of Lucia di Lammermoor?
MrLupo23 6 months ago
@MrLupo23 - because Lucia is beyond her capabilities and at age forty she does not have a high Eflat any longer.
KathrynARyder 5 months ago
i think anna is the best soprano of all times,i also have a crush on her, i have compared her with at least twelve , and she is thest overall of all of them.
polskapianist 6 months ago
I really like it heaps!
Those who are stupid enough to spend time listening
to something they dislike, thinking their judgement is superior,
wanting to put down those whose tastes are different,
stop writing rubbish and see a psychiatrist, if you need to.
Do not like something? Stop wasting your and everybody else's time,
and find something you can enjoy. Art is for appreciation and enjoyment.
Would you buy paintings you dislike
so you could spend the rest of your life grizzling about them?
operafan0anegnd 7 months ago
I don't really understand why she sings this kind of thing, with a voice her size she could easily sing bigger material that doesn't need the agility and she would shine I'm sure!
mbsbrfalw15 11 months ago
I think, as most have said, that her problem is her repertoire. Having a big voice is not a problem to sing Gilda; Big-voiced sopranos have sung it (Callas, Moser, Sutherland). The problems here is the agility. i think she should sing Tosca, Mimi, Manon Lescaut: lyric parts; there she would shine.
AulendilElessar 1 year ago 9
@AulendilElessar - I completely agree with you.
KathrynARyder 4 months ago
She's a good singer but no doubt that she can't sing caro nome. Her voice isn't light enough - she didn't even do the stacatto thingy (Leontyne Price neither lol)
thomastmwc 1 year ago
I love Anna but her coloratura here is really slow b/c her voice is too heavy for Glida =/
classicalgalNYC 1 year ago
bonne nuit les petits,c'est tout
ininacsot 1 year ago
Meh....
REBECCAtheSOPRANO 1 year ago
Young Olga Peretyatko with great Leo Nucci is another, recent, beautiful Gilda. Truly beautiful (and perfect) voice, IMHO....
lamsalgado 1 year ago
Why??
6sushi66 1 year ago
I love anna!! She sings my favorite "D'oreste D'ajace"..... but Caro Nome!!! No no no no no 100 times no, she's not a coloratura soprano, I didnt like this version I missed the coloratura parts... This one is not for Anna :(
vanemoon 1 year ago 2
spiceofmadrid I agree,all dem beautiful voices
martindogo 1 year ago
I prefer this aria with anna netrebko! I wouldn't prefer it with a more ligthly timbre.. it sounds horrible if it's a bright timbre! well, it's my opinon. ;)
jeannemeumier 1 year ago
@jeannemeumier je viens de réentendre Maria Callas et ce n'est que du bonheur,c'est une leçon de chant
ininacsot 8 months ago
Anna ist schön und singt mindestens so schön wie sie aussieht....trotzdem kann ihre Interpretation die göttliche Art von Eglise Gutierrez nicht erreichen. Hört euch das Video an, sie hat wirklich eine fantastische Stimme und kann mit ihr richtig zaubern!!!
RealBrickAnimations 1 year ago
Edita is the best sorprano.. However, Anna is charming and attractive on the stage...
u29650 1 year ago
Definitely not the best title of the video
fromUrals 1 year ago
Las mejores para mi:
1-Sumy jo
2-Anna moffo
3-Johan suterland
4-Edita gruberova
5-Maria callas
martindogo 1 year ago
@martindogo They all have beautiful voices.
Spiceofmadrid 1 year ago
Honestly, I heard her sing this live and compared to that performance this is downright good. It was a strange night, the first act including this aria was truly dreadful. Then, miraculously she came in for Act II and sang the rest of the opera like a beast. In a good way that is. Very uneven singing but it definitely had its moments. I didn't feel I'd wasted my money for the ticket, not least of which for the shock value.
Robbiepiano 1 year ago
1. Edita Gruberova!
2. Joan Sutherland
3. Maria Callas
Kivimusic 1 year ago
wow, I thought it would be worse, still is really bad, hahaha, she's my favorite violetta, but gilda, come on.
if she only stick to roles she can sing, I'm sure she would shine.
this is the same that when she sang Lucia and dont get me started on when she sang Elvira
1500852 1 year ago
She definitely has a big problem with high notes.
masettoallegro 1 year ago
and last but not least Montserrat
seetsebea1 2 years ago
or MOffo, Gruberova, Guiterrez, Dessay, Sumi Jo, Cotrubas etc.......
seetsebea1 2 years ago
why always just Callas? SHE IS DEAD, we live in 2010!!!!! and Netrebko is great, although Tebaldis interpretation is more "Angels`Voice", also Gheorghiu is great. Callas had her good and less good times....so why always just Callas?
seetsebea1 2 years ago 2
@seetsebea1 yes netrebko is part of the new generation but not the best in this aria, the best in this aria is the peruvian soprano eglise gutierrez who is gaining a lot of respect for her unique voice and technique, check her out :D!
alexXx
gonzoli 1 year ago
@seetsebea1 because if you've got the best you can not settle for mediocre. is not only the callas, you're right! also because it is unthinkable to compare with her, she's from another planet. once the song was taken more seriously, the singers of today (including Netrebko) could not even do the chorus only 30 years ago.
the execution is poor, both in terms of interpretation, above all, from a technical standpoint. Netrebko should change the job, I think!
best regards
mattia
TheNuznuz 8 months ago
@seetsebea1 sauf que quand Maria Callas était moins,elle était encore la meilleure.maintanant il faut vivre avec son temps mais il est toujours possible de faire un choix.
ininacsot 8 months ago
After reading all the comments below, the only serious question I have for myself is: would I jump her bones given the opportunity? In a demisemihemidemisemiquaver.
charmofthehuns 2 years ago
I dont like her sry for me my top 3 is :
1Inva Mula
2Maria Callas
3Edita Gruberova
operaclassicc 2 years ago
poor duck...
MrLupo23 2 years ago
talkin' 'bout yourself?
BroadswordTULL 2 years ago
no. about her.
MrLupo23 2 years ago
sounds like it's about you, bugger.
BroadswordTULL 2 years ago
o man you're so boring! this is MY thinking shut up! U don't have to agree with me!
Gilda is a girl, a young one, her vocie should be light. Where are Gilda's trill and picchettati?
Please you don't know what are u talking about!!
MrLupo23 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
EEEEEW Who could like this stuff? Her piercing sharpness once again elongate every second.
FlyingElephant20 2 years ago
This is her Met Gilda, which was actually very good in all the duets and lyric parts (sometimes really astounding), but her Covent Garden Gilda from the same year was indeed marvelous in every aspects.
Homoclassicus 2 years ago
yes the problem is that she's so bad in the coloratura parts of any role she sings from Lucia to Gilda to Violetta and Elvira and so on that it makes people forget (and makes her forget too!) that she's "JUST" a lyric soprano MAYBE with some agility but DEFINITELY not a coloratura.
She would be great if she stuck to the lyric roles, I see with pleasure that her schedule for the future has shifted more towards that repertoire.
eradesso 2 years ago
Yeah, but I can't see how the fact she's "just" a lyric soprano would diminish her talent. She's never as good in coloratura roles as she's in lyric ones, but I must say she's an intelligent singer in all her coloratura roles as far as the more lyrical parts are concerned. In the coloratura, she doesn't shine but is very successful if compared with other real lyric sopranos. Also remind she's quite "unstable": sometimes she has no trills and then she sings perfect trills in another night. :-)
Homoclassicus 2 years ago
I wasn't actually diminishing her at all that is why I wrote "just". There have been many awesome lyric sopranos. To me she's just an "average" singer atm because she does not use her voice for the right repertoire and she keeps miscascting herself. So she "could" be great.
You say she's unstable, I would say "unschooled". It's not a matter of day off, it's a matter of technique. Same with her problematic High Es. She should stop attempting them high D is the highest safe top note of her range.
eradesso 2 years ago
I disagree with you on that Anna Netrebko has no school (I mean the vocal technique), she studied singing 10 years. One other thing - every voice has its defects, not all singers respect rules in vocal technique, at least not all rules - that's life etc.
TheLudann 2 years ago
I've heard Tebaldi sing Violetta. It's much better than Netrebko.
FlyingElephant20 2 years ago
I don't think so - not in the coloratura parts. Tebaldi is better than Netrebko as Violetta, I agree (yet, because her Violetta has vastly improved since the famed 2005 performance, her 2008 performance in ROH was much more interesting). However, she could be average in "Sempre libera", but I heard Tebaldi sing some very insufficient coloratura in other performances. That is not to diminish her, she really had a great limitation in coloratura, but she's still the best lyric spinto ever for me.
Homoclassicus 2 years ago
I didn't like Tebaldi as Violetta, neither in her Wagner roles Elisabeth and Elsa. Tebaldi was an outstanding Desdemona, Manon Lescaut, Aida, Wally, Cleopatra and Tosca.
For my taste best Tosca ever: Maria Callas...
And you're right, Tebaldi was the best lyric spinto of her time.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Sorry, but we are talking here about Gilda (Rigoletto) not Violeta (Traviata) is a big difference.
TheLudann 2 years ago
Thanks dear Leo, I've been waiting to hear this for a while. And I already knew what to expect.
Obviously her groupies will say she's an amazing Gilda.
I don't even need to comment much here. If one isn't deaf it's easy to understand what a terrible choice to sing this was.
And seriously, diction is perhaps the least worrying problem here.
eradesso 2 years ago
LOL
none of them has access to the video^^ just take a look at the ratings XD
leoperarm 2 years ago
leoperarm, that's because they watch Manon`s daily bed scene...There isn't much time left to find other Netrebko videos...XD
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Yeah... that scene has made a common woman become 'LA DIVINA' LOL!
leoperarm 2 years ago
Oh eradesso, that's so true...
Pyrare1 2 years ago
@eradesso As much as I appreciate Netrebko's charisma and acting skills, she has, sadly, lowered the bar for opera soprano stardom as well as 'cultured-ness' and class for opera discussion and marketing among audiences. Surely this is not entirely her fault, the industry has been wanting this type of dumbing down to increase sales. I would like this Emperor (empress) without clothes era in opera to end. At least Beczala is coming up to end it for the tenor's side.
piax00 1 year ago
@piax00 You are so right - 30/40 years ago sopranos of this calibre would be considered also rans mostly engaged by minor houses or used as stand ins, how standards have been lowered!
TheVaughan5 4 months ago
@eradesso You are so right I am sad to say! This effort is lacking in so many ways it is more of an interpretation than the aria Caro Nome.
bladezone1 1 year ago
@eradesso yes, she is a little "heavy and slow". it is beautifulm though not perfect. i love darker voices... but she should choose better her repertoire. it is just when Diana Damrau sang the queen of the night. i think she goes a bit slow on that too...
PetulaGuimaraes 1 year ago
lmao everybody hates Trebko...but I understand. Why is the diction so poopy?
Satirike 2 years ago
Bad technique^^
leoperarm 2 years ago
Vague, blurry and popera style. Time for me to listen to Annick Massis.
thugman30 2 years ago
Hi thugman30...LOL.. popera style sounds better...you can feel she's unsure, unpronounced, it's flat sing-song. And she has definitely no "Gilda voice".
leoperarm said:"Definitely not the best, but if you like it... " It's only for stiff-necked Netrebko Fans.
Pyrare1 2 years ago
Yeah and Netrebko even said in the interview here on youtube that when she started out to sing, people only complimented her on her dresses and it was later on that she said that people talked about her voice. It's all in the marketing that "people" are made to believe that she's flawless.
thugman30 2 years ago
Time for me to listen to Joan Sutherland.^^
leoperarm 2 years ago
Hi leoperarm, here my "best Gilda's"
1. Edita Gruberova (the very best)
2. Joan Sutherland
3. Diana Damrau
4. Yin Huang
LOL...just my taste...^^
Pyrare1 2 years ago
yes yes! Joan Sutherland and Edita Gruberova are my favourite sopranos, but I think that Sutherland sings this better than Edita^^
my best are:
1.Joan Sutherland
2. Edita Gruberova
3. Maria Callas
(btw, I also LOVE Diana Damrau ;-)
leoperarm 2 years ago
Wow her words are so unpronounced that it just sounds like a glob coming from her mouth, kind of like sutherland at the end of her career
hillevifan 2 years ago