What really annoys me today is the happy clappy music one finds in modern protestant churches. When one becomes aware that Bach, Mozart,Handle and Beethoven were all Lutheran I wonder what the hell happened ?
They liked to call that "authentical-" or "period style performance practice"...
But on a fair note: this clip is from a biographical movie on JSB, by Straub & Huillet, where Leonhardt actually 'played' "the old wig" (as CPE Bach called his dad), btw.
I always found that Leonhardt had not the least resemblance to JSB.
Hopefully the few film there is off these performances are kept for preservation in a vault somewhere. Leonhardt, Deller and Harnoncourt where pioneers and stood for the complete reinvention and revitalization of classical music during the 1960's. They reintroduced repertoire that had gone unheard for hundreds of years and let us hear it with the academic acumen that was needed to do it justice. Even the symphonic world has had to adjust itself because of them. Great performance.
I was pleasantly surprised to hear what a wonderful performance this is. I had to look up gustav leonhardt and find out he was a pioneer in the period instrument movement. Bravo!
@martinGrock Merci ! Cette musique est pour tous les peuples, toutes les nations, toutes les religions et les unit dans le sublime ! Il y a Bach et après on ne trouve plus que Dieu si on y croit ou le divin si on n'y croit pas
Si Helmut Rilling se vistiera de época, seria perfecto. No me gusta esta version minimalista, con un tempo muy rapido, casi angustioso, carece de grandeza y no gana en luminosodad
Questo video è tratto dal bellissimo film del regista svizzero J.M. Straub Diario Anna Maria Magadalena a dirigere un giovanissimo Leonhardt, altrettanto giovane al violoncello. Il diario di Bach parla di un esecuzione avvenuta con un numero esiguo di cantori e strumentisti.
Al violoncello un giovanissimo signore di nome Harnocourt,. anche se in numero esiguo splendida esecuzione.
Straub et Huillet (1967) Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach, daprès Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach et Johann Sebastian Bach, 35 mm, noir et blanc, cinq versions linguistiques, 93 min
Bach did conduct this on Good Friday,1729 but because of the length it fell out of most usages until Mendelssohn revived it. Bach was following a centuries old tradition of special music offering at the church he was serving for Passion week.
@mentalmanperry93 That wasn't the reason it was only performed once before Mendelssohn. Most of Bach's church music would have only been performed once. He was expecxted to write new music every week.
This video is not from a performance, but from a film in which Gustav Leonhardt plays the role of Johann Sebastian Bach. This film is a biography of JSB and dates from the 70's
@unvmoi Bang-On, Thank You for stating this,,, I've been viewing music filmed and recorded at whenever time, and people/engineers are sharing their trove,,, crackles and pops and blurry vision aside,, these are artifacts.
You are right brother.. People don't even think, about whom they are commenting. I'm also fed up reading 100% absurd comments on the works of Mozart, Bach, Beethoven etc...
@Am4d30 Well, I've got good news- There IS a God, and we'll be hearing much better things than this in His kingdom. Granted this is an amazing work on earth, from a man who was inspired by the Creator Himself.
I prefer the costumes to this recording. It's a rather endearing performance, but the trebles sound slightly inexperienced - are they from the St Thomas School?
It's my understanding is that this is extracted from the move about Bach. I don't know whether Gustave did Bach or not in this movie.I think inexperiences trebles could be intentions. Bach and choir at that time could not have enough time to practice due to haevy schedule.. :-)
You arguing people know how i came across this song? I'm 21 so i guess i qualify as a "young person," but anyways, i watched George Lucas' "THX1138" and this beautiful piece plays at the very end. i love all kinds of music and dont think classical enthusiasts should restrict their perceptions of their fan-base to asocial "old geezers". so grow up old people :)
é simplismente maravilhoso!!!! indescritívelllllllllll!!! quando Bach compoe , ele compoe para Deus! Divino!!!!!!!lindo demaiais! enaltecedor!! digno !!! grandioso
hi there i don't care for any of the comments or the way this music has been represented but this piece is probably the greatest musical essay in the whole of 'this world' experience
i have a costume...but it doesnt compare to this...i want the actual wigs and clothes...with the buckled heels...ahh i dream of dressign like that let me tell you.
It's a shame jerbiebarb you can't enjoy the music without launching into ignorant uninformed polemics against faith. One can have reason and faith. Most of the greatest scientists in history were men of faith. It is an arrogance and self-indulgence to think science alone can save you or give your life true meaning beyond a shallow narcisstic type of existentialism.
Pan20, exciting document from the beginnings of HIP! A lot of details have been improved since the `60s, but the (sometimes naive) enthusiasm of the pioneers still catches me. Could you please add some extra information about the source of this video, the year of the recording etc?
I'm kind of curious of the recognized definition of religion here.The Bible defines true religion as "visiting the fatherless and the widows in their affliction". Like religion is more of an outworking of faith than a basis for for faith . Trusting in Jesus ( a real being ) isn't "religion" is it ? religion according to the Bible seems to to simply be the good things you do because of your salvation/faith in Christ, not for your salvation or faith.
It would be arrogant to think a scientific explanation makes it impossible for a god to excist. The only think that science can possibly prove is that relligion is 'wrong' The existance of a god is another thing.
Also, aren't science, communism, ect believes? I think its arrogant as a human to believe you know the 'truth' may that be a religion a ideology or anything really. the most save guess is that both religion and science are wrong. But as i said. We humans can only assume.
Well, one thing's certain.. What modern science is currently requiring a creator/god to be -makes a mockery of Western religions which have instilled guilt in gullible people for so long.. It's criminal!
If you are a thinking person, our surviving human religions should seem primitive or blasphemous, or laughable.
Pray to your god concepts, but leave the silly god-men and divine prophets to the dustbin of history.
The big difference between religion and science is that science actually can explain some phenomena and be used to make predicitions. Religion can do neither it just makes a lot of claims that you must take on faith.
You don't need to be achristian to appreciate the greatness of Bach's monumental work of the St Matthew Passion.This works make an atheist to seek God's mercy.
You say this work makes an atheist to seek god's mercy! I see it as the genius of human beings. There is no god! It's a myth invented by humans! Read Richard Dawkin's 'The God Delusion' if you dare! Only when the human race abandons religion can we all live in peace.
If the human race abandone religion then why over 80 million people die in the 20th century in the name of athiesm ? Stalin is an athiest, he did not allow any religion except his own athiest believe. Hitler, though baptise catholic not only did he not practice his faith but his Nazi party harass the catholic with fear intimitation.They did not do it in the name of any God.There are no God in them.
The people who died under stalin didn't die 'in the name of atheism' they died in the name of communism! I never said that all the world's ills are caused by religion. In The God Delusion, Dawkins explains why your argument is so false and illogical.
And in reply to your other post, his book explains clearly and thoroughly why we move our arms and legs the way we do. It's called EVOLUTION!
hi dzmcm - who wrote 'What is Creation Science?'? My belief is not so much founded in science, but in common sense. I just find it so tragic that so many people's minds have been poisoned by religion. No wonder the world is in such a mess. Religion is almost like a collective mental illness that has spread through the whole world.
But we damn well know him now, and we must never, EVER, let him be forgotten. I fear this happening what with today's youth growing up with some of the sh*tiest "music" in history, i.e. Miley Cyrus, Ashley Tisdale, Rhianna, and all rap.
Just where the hell did you get the idea that I was COMPARING Bach to those "artists"?!! I was saying that those "artists" (as you call them) have taken over today's youth so completely that they simply don't want to listen to anything else - eapecially classical music, and I fear that this trend will continue and Bach and other greats will be forgotten, or at least become even less popular, and that CANNOT happen. No comparisons, no talking about 18th century youth... get it now?
You replied negatively to my comment to begin with. You called me a "late-comer who's just discovered classical music", guess you've known me all my life. And did I mention you started this? I am pontificating huh? Well, aside from my being very "pontifical" about Bach, let me pontificate once more: You are a dumb-ass. If you don't like reading graffiti on youtube, don't start it yourself. And please don't act as if you know what 18th century young people were doing. Now let's enjoy the music.
you seriously need to get off the board. you are the one who comments on someone else with you know-it-all attitude, then you don't like it when they reply to you! these comments should be to praise this beautiful music, or tell why you don't like it i guess. it should not be to show everyone how smart you are, or to fight. both of you stop it!!!
A long time ago, we used to have a tape (on BETA!!) of a TV special that my dad recorded off of PBS during the 300th anniversary of Bach's birth. It was all about his life. I cannot remember what it was called, I was only 6 at the time, but Peter Ustinov was the host. At the end, he recited a quote someone said about Bach. And while I can't remeber who said it, (and I wish I could) I never forgot the quote: "Bach is Bach just as God is God". To me, Bach IS God.
Pure genius,, I could listen to this all day and never tire. For me the appeal of Baroque music, and in particular Bach compositions, is that almost all of them are in the minor key, in addition to their elegnce, harmony, melody and sophistication - in short good tunes. I am astonished that one man could have writen so many differerent tuneful compostions in the same genre
I saw this movie at the first time in a cinema in 1974. The narrowness on the gallery in static scene with Bach in the middle. The movie reminds me to Bach's headmaster Gesner who said: "He is not only singing a voice, but he is targeted to all together. From 30 or 40 musicians he brings back to rhythm and bar by a sign, the other with stamping his foot, the third by wagging with his fingers."
This work is fantastic. I copied the overture ( just the overture )of this Passion, note for note, in a music software, for learning, like the ancient copyist did. It was a exaustive work, I spent a lot of weeks doing that, but it worths, I learned a lot. You can believe me, the composition is fantastic, really complex.
No. This Passion was performed multiple times during Bach's lifetime- the first time in 1727/29 and for the last time in the 1740s. There are even different versions of it for different occasions.
Well I think it sounds decidedly *creaky*, and the string/woodwind balance is lousy. In fact, overall, the sound is terrible, and the choir simply sucks. c'mon. there's nothing about this recording that should have everyone drooling?
Dont you think threre is a falsity in this movie? This passion was never performed during compser's life. It was first performed by Mendellssohn in 1829. Therefore the baroque dresses, wigs ans decor is used unproperly.
It *was* performed during Bach's lifetime, maybe 3 times, on Good Friday in the Thomas Church in Leipzig. *Then* it was forgotten until Mendelssohn revived it in 1839.
Bach composed Five passions, all specifically for performance in Leipzig, so unless he was very old indeed, Mendelssohn couldn't possibly have directed the first performance!
what do you mean by "five"? john and matthew and? I've found a recording called "markuspassion" but i think it's a made-up immitation. I heard that the music for the other 2 (mark and luke) were missing. What is the fifth one? Torah? Qoran?
As far as I know, Bach composed one setting each of Mark, Luke and John, and two of Matthew. Whether the two Matthew settings means exactly that or refers to the two versions of the one we know, though, I'm not sure.
Oh that passion of Christ! What would drive the Son of God eternal to subject Himself to the humiliating yet all vicarious and efficatious death of the cross! What eternal pathos and love! What Unsearchable glory! What unending grace! And what unending judgement, pain and regret for those who believeth not!
Anyway, I believe not, but it's one of the great masterpieces of all time. Like the plays of Sophocles, which also come out of a religious tradition I believe not.
I like the way the view stays static, that you cant see any faces, this disinterest in editing and personality somehow makes the image more alien and therefore more like the past, somewhere we can never be, Like a painting, the other planet of history.
"I like the way the view stays static, that you cant see any faces, this disinterest in editing and personality somehow makes the image more alien and therefore more like the past, somewhere we can never be, Like a painting, the other planet of history." --moment7
Yes, it's like revisiting faint memories; it might also be reminiscences in the first person perspective.
Remember the human vioce is tuned different(mean rather than equal tempermemnt) than than man-made instruments; also the singer(s)tends to get sharp as they sing.
wasn't this piece written before equal temperment. Bach was all a-glee with well temperment. Am a choral singer myself so I understand about how much of a compremise keyboard instruments are.
This interpretation the the one, I like the most. I think is's much more fluent nad melodious than Koopman interpretation. In my opinion is't more "baroque" than othes.
What a passion! Music that's out of this world! My favorite recording of it is with Herreweghe. In similar ways I also love Canata BWV 4 (Easter); still trying to find a Herreweghe's recording of it. Let me know if you know it exists :-)
i am an atheist but one wonders how something so wonderful was written without the intervention of a higher voice. The st matthew passion is the most sublime piece of music that i know. im a big man and it makes me cry - its beauty is magnificent and i feel privileged to know this piece - as many many dont...their loss. If anyone knows of a performance of this in the UK please let me know
You can look up St. Martin- in -the- Fields and the Monteverdi Choir websites for their forthcoming concerts. Bach Passions are usually performed around Christmas. Good luck.
You have spoken what my heart has thought all along...
Whenever I hear Bach's music, I am in awe, and my spirit lifted up high to the light... Interesting how a few words can manifest into what I feel as well.
Thank you for your words, and hearing this music enchants me to the heaven's even higher.
What really annoys me today is the happy clappy music one finds in modern protestant churches. When one becomes aware that Bach, Mozart,Handle and Beethoven were all Lutheran I wonder what the hell happened ?
RICKYRASPER 3 months ago
WHY ARE THEY ALL WEARING WIGS? WAS IT THE ORIGINAL?!?!?!?!
ttomace 4 months ago
@ttomace That's how they wore their hair in the 1960's. It was a very odd time.
P1B1U1H1 3 weeks ago in playlist Bach
@P1B1U1H1 I thought wigs were used in the 1600 and 1700s. How come in 1960s then???
ttomace 3 weeks ago
@ttomace
They liked to call that "authentical-" or "period style performance practice"...
But on a fair note: this clip is from a biographical movie on JSB, by Straub & Huillet, where Leonhardt actually 'played' "the old wig" (as CPE Bach called his dad), btw.
I always found that Leonhardt had not the least resemblance to JSB.
CaptainBluebear08 1 week ago
@CaptainBluebear08 hehe yes!!! i was just watching the movie subbed in Eng... but do performers still perform nowdays with wigs.?
ttomace 1 week ago
this looks like it's at St. Thomas's Leipzig
ears61 5 months ago
There is God;and this is his heartbeat.
spiffydresser1 9 months ago 2
Music is Love , the genius of Bach is Divine
musicoceanstudio 9 months ago
What a lovely music, it is eternal.
Thank you for posting.
shuma8shushan 9 months ago
THE PASSION SHOULD NEVER START WITH AN INTRODUCTION!! Nevertheless, thank you to whoever posted this it is a special recording!
thewirlesswambat 9 months ago
THE PASSION SHOULD NEVER START WITH AN INTRODUCTION!!
thewirlesswambat 9 months ago
@thewirlesswambat Sorry, but before we indulge in passion, we should get at least a first name.
lichtbroeder 5 months ago
Hopefully the few film there is off these performances are kept for preservation in a vault somewhere. Leonhardt, Deller and Harnoncourt where pioneers and stood for the complete reinvention and revitalization of classical music during the 1960's. They reintroduced repertoire that had gone unheard for hundreds of years and let us hear it with the academic acumen that was needed to do it justice. Even the symphonic world has had to adjust itself because of them. Great performance.
peteradaniel 10 months ago
Do you have the entire recording?
krakus5813 1 year ago
I was pleasantly surprised to hear what a wonderful performance this is. I had to look up gustav leonhardt and find out he was a pioneer in the period instrument movement. Bravo!
Rigaudon 1 year ago
Magistral!!, una idea mas clara de como seria la presentación de este tipo de obras en la época de Bach. Muchas gracias por subir el video.
martinGrock 1 year ago
@martinGrock Merci ! Cette musique est pour tous les peuples, toutes les nations, toutes les religions et les unit dans le sublime !
kristallon100 1 year ago
@martinGrock Merci ! Cette musique est pour tous les peuples, toutes les nations, toutes les religions et les unit dans le sublime ! Il y a Bach et après on ne trouve plus que Dieu si on y croit ou le divin si on n'y croit pas
kristallon100 1 year ago
If Bach was God, Leonard was the messiah. Superb performance, tempo is just perfect.
SaraVaughanfan 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting. This is incredible beyond words.
mdueri 1 year ago
Si Helmut Rilling se vistiera de época, seria perfecto. No me gusta esta version minimalista, con un tempo muy rapido, casi angustioso, carece de grandeza y no gana en luminosodad
edwar904 1 year ago
the spirit of yesterday, of tomorrow, for ever...
el espíritu de ayer, de mañana, para siempre...
der geist des gestern, des morgens, für immer...
smakant71 1 year ago 2
this is very good!!
Complimenti!!!
ForeverIsis 1 year ago
Pelican
That's right on, nice music for hart and soul.
Thank you
5*
louloubeb 1 year ago
That is music for our soul.....
pelikaaann 1 year ago
Questo video è tratto dal bellissimo film del regista svizzero J.M. Straub Diario Anna Maria Magadalena a dirigere un giovanissimo Leonhardt, altrettanto giovane al violoncello. Il diario di Bach parla di un esecuzione avvenuta con un numero esiguo di cantori e strumentisti.
Al violoncello un giovanissimo signore di nome Harnocourt,. anche se in numero esiguo splendida esecuzione.
mifamimi 2 years ago
This was used in THX-1138 at the end :)
citizenhal 2 years ago
My preference is the massive Munich Bach choir under Karl Richter. Perhaps this one is more authentic?
lefekir 2 years ago 2
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I'm about to turn 2 and I can't get enough of this stuff!
matthewmartinkelly 2 years ago
Brilliant, I am twelve and I love this
Archiiieeescotty 2 years ago 5
Extrait de Chronique d'Anna Magdalena Bach de
Straub et Huillet (1967) Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach, daprès Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach et Johann Sebastian Bach, 35 mm, noir et blanc, cinq versions linguistiques, 93 min
laurentmansea 2 years ago
Imagine, once there was a time before Bach.
argumenteren 2 years ago
subliiiime !
hitawi 2 years ago
I can't hear any sound. I think youtube muted the audio :(.
urbanr0cker 2 years ago
Bach did conduct this on Good Friday,1729 but because of the length it fell out of most usages until Mendelssohn revived it. Bach was following a centuries old tradition of special music offering at the church he was serving for Passion week.
mentalmanperry93 2 years ago
@mentalmanperry93 That wasn't the reason it was only performed once before Mendelssohn. Most of Bach's church music would have only been performed once. He was expecxted to write new music every week.
craigalake 1 year ago
As I understand it, Bach never conducted this work, it was handed to Mendelssohn and he was the first to actually present it.
pakamen 2 years ago
Brilliant!!! :D i have no words to say what i feel when i listen Bach's music
fercha90s 2 years ago
Brilliant camera handling ;-/
rodevries 2 years ago
Is this temple St. Thomas Leipzig?
ianislios 2 years ago
This video is not from a performance, but from a film in which Gustav Leonhardt plays the role of Johann Sebastian Bach. This film is a biography of JSB and dates from the 70's
ink28 3 years ago
Man, I hate it how people are posting hateful, unmusical comments on this video.
But hey, welcome to Youtube, unfortunately, I have come across videos of great music, and have witnessed horrible arguments going on in the comments.
STOP IT!!
Enjoy this devine and untouchable piece of music!! Post comments on the beauty of Bach's music!!
Don't post irrevelent comments, Bach would be broken to know about these "unmusical arguments" over his work.
Do what Bach intended, love music.
unvmoi 3 years ago 32
You are right! However, sadly, that's hardly possible :)
glantz91 2 years ago
@unvmoi Bang-On, Thank You for stating this,,, I've been viewing music filmed and recorded at whenever time, and people/engineers are sharing their trove,,, crackles and pops and blurry vision aside,, these are artifacts.
malaisennui 1 year ago
@unvmoi god will hear the music. no reason to feel angry as they do
madhoneydew 1 year ago
@unvmoi I've never understood why people leave argumentative, nasty and obscene comments for CHRISTMAS CAROLS, for crying out loud.
lichtbroeder 5 months ago
You are right brother.. People don't even think, about whom they are commenting. I'm also fed up reading 100% absurd comments on the works of Mozart, Bach, Beethoven etc...
hari1093 5 months ago
bach is het enige excuus voor religie.
camcolit55 3 years ago 2
Es tan historicista que no faltan ni las pelucas.¡Pequeñas excentricidades del gran Gustav Leonhardt.!
debartzen 3 years ago
es parte de un apelicula que se llama " la pequeña cronica de Anna Magdalena Bach, donde él hace de Bach, por es va de peluca.
fausbach 3 years ago
excentricidades de Jean marie strub
arribro 3 years ago
if there is a god, this is how he sounds like
Am4d30 3 years ago 10
Absolutely !! Can one imagine the heavens speaking with any greater beauty than this ?? Sehet ! Wohin ?? Hier on youtube !!
Torowe2 2 years ago
@Am4d30 >> hopefully there is no god of any kind, and the music is well performed.
lepivert 1 year ago
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@lepivert "hopefully there is no god of any kind, and the music is well performed"
But that would mean Bach composed this all by himself......highly unlikely!
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
@Am4d30 Well, I've got good news- There IS a God, and we'll be hearing much better things than this in His kingdom. Granted this is an amazing work on earth, from a man who was inspired by the Creator Himself.
tristan01101 6 months ago 2
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lichtbroeder 5 months ago
I prefer the costumes to this recording. It's a rather endearing performance, but the trebles sound slightly inexperienced - are they from the St Thomas School?
CharlieDraper 3 years ago
It's my understanding is that this is extracted from the move about Bach. I don't know whether Gustave did Bach or not in this movie.I think inexperiences trebles could be intentions. Bach and choir at that time could not have enough time to practice due to haevy schedule.. :-)
thomaskantorBach 3 years ago
I'm 18 and love to both perform and listen to Bach.
phoenixdef 3 years ago 2
You arguing people know how i came across this song? I'm 21 so i guess i qualify as a "young person," but anyways, i watched George Lucas' "THX1138" and this beautiful piece plays at the very end. i love all kinds of music and dont think classical enthusiasts should restrict their perceptions of their fan-base to asocial "old geezers". so grow up old people :)
skumar8 3 years ago 5
I too came familiar with this song through 'THX 1138.' I'm 28 and have appreciated classic masterpieces such as this since I was 3.
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Bradjee 3 years ago
meraviglioso
massimolioy 3 years ago 2
Who was the cameraman? Fire him!
ichmalealsobinich 3 years ago
He's great. Both of them are great.
Thank you!
MerlAG 3 years ago
hermoso
sauterio 3 years ago
Amazing and sensational interpretation!
BereinigtenWelt 3 years ago
é simplismente maravilhoso!!!! indescritívelllllllllll!!! quando Bach compoe , ele compoe para Deus! Divino!!!!!!!lindo demaiais! enaltecedor!! digno !!! grandioso
brodusk 3 years ago
They need to keep wearing those wigs :x
tricofilms 3 years ago 4
Marfavinhoso,
uma das seqüências musicais mais sonoras.
vlkemp 3 years ago
are the violins out of tune.. yak
jsymons1985 3 years ago
they are not out of tune.
darkmaides 3 years ago 4
this is like, the greatest piece of music ever.
GS336 3 years ago 5
Or at least, one of the ten greatest.
The30YearOldVirgin 3 years ago
Pretty good example that Bach indeed may have had three singers per part/score in his choir.
pgosta 3 years ago
hi there i don't care for any of the comments or the way this music has been represented but this piece is probably the greatest musical essay in the whole of 'this world' experience
3NUNS 3 years ago 2
This is a great score but that's highly HIGHLY debatable, with no offense intended.
Infinitesimalism 3 years ago
Highly debatable... but true :P
Terrdemarzielle 3 years ago
wtf was that at 6:06??? o.O;;
tricofilms 3 years ago 2
Great comment yes wtf was it?
Max3851 3 years ago
I want those clothes!
psusennes 3 years ago
i have a costume...but it doesnt compare to this...i want the actual wigs and clothes...with the buckled heels...ahh i dream of dressign like that let me tell you.
handelfan610 3 years ago
absolutely Devine music...
nyarlathotep29 3 years ago
Thank you with all my soul...Is a lont time that I was lookning for this wonderful Bach piece....I'm so happy! God bless you!
carmensilva27 3 years ago 3
It's a shame jerbiebarb you can't enjoy the music without launching into ignorant uninformed polemics against faith. One can have reason and faith. Most of the greatest scientists in history were men of faith. It is an arrogance and self-indulgence to think science alone can save you or give your life true meaning beyond a shallow narcisstic type of existentialism.
zinpgh 3 years ago 2
The cameraman should be fired immediately. Or was this already done and the cam fixed on the wall?
ichmalealsobinich 3 years ago
Bach is the only excuse for religion.
camcolit55 3 years ago 4
Oh that made me laugh so much. What a brilliant comment!
psusennes 3 years ago
thanx
camcolit55 3 years ago
Absolutely.
mikitavi 3 years ago
Pan20, exciting document from the beginnings of HIP! A lot of details have been improved since the `60s, but the (sometimes naive) enthusiasm of the pioneers still catches me. Could you please add some extra information about the source of this video, the year of the recording etc?
Diwonusoio 3 years ago
Does anyone notice that the sheet is in e minor but they plays in e flat minor?
nangoyang 4 years ago
Are you saying baroque pitch?
amoroso777 4 years ago 4
excuse me can you explain me that please i ignore that baroque pitch
THANKS
jesemus33 3 years ago
I'm kind of curious of the recognized definition of religion here.The Bible defines true religion as "visiting the fatherless and the widows in their affliction". Like religion is more of an outworking of faith than a basis for for faith . Trusting in Jesus ( a real being ) isn't "religion" is it ? religion according to the Bible seems to to simply be the good things you do because of your salvation/faith in Christ, not for your salvation or faith.
kdeh1 4 years ago
We'll never learn that irrational faith in any human personality from history leads inevitably to crusades and inquisitions.
JSB produced far more than any of them, with all their ignorant and divisive claims.
Bach and Luther couldn't have known what we can know today! They had an excuse, but we don't!...
jerbiebarb 4 years ago
Dude, this is music.
fdartmouth 3 years ago
And clearly juvenile uninformed reactionary ignorance inevitable leads to the negative feedback you have already received.
organmus1982 3 years ago
Since you read it and thought about it I expect I made the world a better place..
jerbiebarb 3 years ago
It would be arrogant to think a scientific explanation makes it impossible for a god to excist. The only think that science can possibly prove is that relligion is 'wrong' The existance of a god is another thing.
Also, aren't science, communism, ect believes? I think its arrogant as a human to believe you know the 'truth' may that be a religion a ideology or anything really. the most save guess is that both religion and science are wrong. But as i said. We humans can only assume.
jankuiper3422 4 years ago
Well, one thing's certain.. What modern science is currently requiring a creator/god to be -makes a mockery of Western religions which have instilled guilt in gullible people for so long.. It's criminal!
If you are a thinking person, our surviving human religions should seem primitive or blasphemous, or laughable.
Pray to your god concepts, but leave the silly god-men and divine prophets to the dustbin of history.
jerbiebarb 4 years ago
The big difference between religion and science is that science actually can explain some phenomena and be used to make predicitions. Religion can do neither it just makes a lot of claims that you must take on faith.
ivankaramasov 4 years ago 3
The video this is from is worth watching (Notebook of Anna Magdellena Bach or something). Thanks for uploading this section.
andwhatfire 4 years ago
You don't need to be achristian to appreciate the greatness of Bach's monumental work of the St Matthew Passion.This works make an atheist to seek God's mercy.
canman5060 4 years ago 2
You say this work makes an atheist to seek god's mercy! I see it as the genius of human beings. There is no god! It's a myth invented by humans! Read Richard Dawkin's 'The God Delusion' if you dare! Only when the human race abandons religion can we all live in peace.
newminkey 4 years ago
If the human race abandone religion then why over 80 million people die in the 20th century in the name of athiesm ? Stalin is an athiest, he did not allow any religion except his own athiest believe. Hitler, though baptise catholic not only did he not practice his faith but his Nazi party harass the catholic with fear intimitation.They did not do it in the name of any God.There are no God in them.
canman5060 4 years ago
The people who died under stalin didn't die 'in the name of atheism' they died in the name of communism! I never said that all the world's ills are caused by religion. In The God Delusion, Dawkins explains why your argument is so false and illogical.
And in reply to your other post, his book explains clearly and thoroughly why we move our arms and legs the way we do. It's called EVOLUTION!
newminkey 4 years ago
The God Delusion cannot tell us what exist before the black hole and why there is that 'big bang' and why we move our arms and legs the way they are.
canman5060 4 years ago
Platon, Cartesius and many other clever people claim that it has to be something more than human being, I rather trust them :)
evitaercx 4 years ago
If you are the logical, thoughtfull individual you appear to be, I highly recomend a book called "What is Creation Science?"
If your belief is so strongly founded in science, then I believe you lack perspective to come to an atheist conclusion.
dzmcm 4 years ago
hi dzmcm - who wrote 'What is Creation Science?'? My belief is not so much founded in science, but in common sense. I just find it so tragic that so many people's minds have been poisoned by religion. No wonder the world is in such a mess. Religion is almost like a collective mental illness that has spread through the whole world.
newminkey 4 years ago
Nice piece at 6:06
IvoBrnobic 4 years ago
It makes me cry, really! Bach is the greatest genius that appeared in the music of all time!
joefrajtag 4 years ago 2
Yet sadly he was not recognized in his own time...
pauledunn 4 years ago
But we damn well know him now, and we must never, EVER, let him be forgotten. I fear this happening what with today's youth growing up with some of the sh*tiest "music" in history, i.e. Miley Cyrus, Ashley Tisdale, Rhianna, and all rap.
(except The Beastie Boys!!)
mikitavi 3 years ago
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papaguy81 3 years ago
Just where the hell did you get the idea that I was COMPARING Bach to those "artists"?!! I was saying that those "artists" (as you call them) have taken over today's youth so completely that they simply don't want to listen to anything else - eapecially classical music, and I fear that this trend will continue and Bach and other greats will be forgotten, or at least become even less popular, and that CANNOT happen. No comparisons, no talking about 18th century youth... get it now?
mikitavi 3 years ago 2
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papaguy81 3 years ago
You replied negatively to my comment to begin with. You called me a "late-comer who's just discovered classical music", guess you've known me all my life. And did I mention you started this? I am pontificating huh? Well, aside from my being very "pontifical" about Bach, let me pontificate once more: You are a dumb-ass. If you don't like reading graffiti on youtube, don't start it yourself. And please don't act as if you know what 18th century young people were doing. Now let's enjoy the music.
mikitavi 3 years ago
you seriously need to get off the board. you are the one who comments on someone else with you know-it-all attitude, then you don't like it when they reply to you! these comments should be to praise this beautiful music, or tell why you don't like it i guess. it should not be to show everyone how smart you are, or to fight. both of you stop it!!!
mtxm1 3 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Aren't you pontificating too?
mittngingie 3 years ago
leave papaguy81 alone. He is my uncle, and he is old and dying of cancer, so please let him be crotchety and don't contest his word.
PapaLeonesPizza 2 years ago
Bach's melodies are from popular(folk) songs
that's why they are eternal
AKSTERSKY 3 years ago
what's wrong with that?
AKSTERSKY 2 years ago
@AKSTERSKY ?????
craigalake 1 year ago
Hell yeah!!!
mikitavi 4 years ago
A long time ago, we used to have a tape (on BETA!!) of a TV special that my dad recorded off of PBS during the 300th anniversary of Bach's birth. It was all about his life. I cannot remember what it was called, I was only 6 at the time, but Peter Ustinov was the host. At the end, he recited a quote someone said about Bach. And while I can't remeber who said it, (and I wish I could) I never forgot the quote: "Bach is Bach just as God is God". To me, Bach IS God.
mikitavi 4 years ago
Pure genius,, I could listen to this all day and never tire. For me the appeal of Baroque music, and in particular Bach compositions, is that almost all of them are in the minor key, in addition to their elegnce, harmony, melody and sophistication - in short good tunes. I am astonished that one man could have writen so many differerent tuneful compostions in the same genre
jutescrim 4 years ago
Magnificent!
plutarco7890 4 years ago
I saw this movie at the first time in a cinema in 1974. The narrowness on the gallery in static scene with Bach in the middle. The movie reminds me to Bach's headmaster Gesner who said: "He is not only singing a voice, but he is targeted to all together. From 30 or 40 musicians he brings back to rhythm and bar by a sign, the other with stamping his foot, the third by wagging with his fingers."
JoachimEssig 4 years ago
This is in the THX 1138 trailer...
tricofilms 4 years ago
This work is fantastic. I copied the overture ( just the overture )of this Passion, note for note, in a music software, for learning, like the ancient copyist did. It was a exaustive work, I spent a lot of weeks doing that, but it worths, I learned a lot. You can believe me, the composition is fantastic, really complex.
codonauta 4 years ago 2
Do you have the score for the orchestra? and if you do, can you send it to me? I've been looking for it all over the internuts, but no dice.
ChocloManx 4 years ago
Body odour, rotten teeth and lice, lubricate the celestial mechanism. in grey.
moment7 4 years ago
This passion was performed it think 1 time,because other people didin't like that Bach uses big chorus and orchestras for his music.
malonu157 4 years ago
No. This Passion was performed multiple times during Bach's lifetime- the first time in 1727/29 and for the last time in the 1740s. There are even different versions of it for different occasions.
norcalrobbie2 4 years ago
Well I think it sounds decidedly *creaky*, and the string/woodwind balance is lousy. In fact, overall, the sound is terrible, and the choir simply sucks. c'mon. there's nothing about this recording that should have everyone drooling?
sibionic 4 years ago
Sorry Rich I didn't see your later post
drummerboy36 4 years ago
The 18th century is a very peculiar creature. Proportion, consideration, decorative outbursts, filth and rot.
moment7 4 years ago
!! too right. What an excellent post!
sibionic 4 years ago
Dont you think threre is a falsity in this movie? This passion was never performed during compser's life. It was first performed by Mendellssohn in 1829. Therefore the baroque dresses, wigs ans decor is used unproperly.
harpagon2 4 years ago
It *was* performed during Bach's lifetime, maybe 3 times, on Good Friday in the Thomas Church in Leipzig. *Then* it was forgotten until Mendelssohn revived it in 1839.
baldwinwa 4 years ago
er - 1829.
;^)
baldwinwa 4 years ago
I am sorry, this passion (Saint John) was performed in one of Leipzig churchs (saint Nicolas), and Directed by Bach himself, I think in 1723.
RichardErnault 4 years ago
It is not St. John's Passion, it's St. Matthew's...Anyway it's beautiful music, truly glorious, joyously reverent and strikingly meloncholy
drummerboy36 4 years ago
Sorry, I realize it is Saint Matthew. But I think it was performed , directed by Bach, but in St Thomas. Do you have reasons to put this in doubt?
RichardErnault 4 years ago
Bach composed Five passions, all specifically for performance in Leipzig, so unless he was very old indeed, Mendelssohn couldn't possibly have directed the first performance!
irishmaestro 4 years ago
what do you mean by "five"? john and matthew and? I've found a recording called "markuspassion" but i think it's a made-up immitation. I heard that the music for the other 2 (mark and luke) were missing. What is the fifth one? Torah? Qoran?
dfnvksdvnvsdkvn 4 years ago
As far as I know, Bach composed one setting each of Mark, Luke and John, and two of Matthew. Whether the two Matthew settings means exactly that or refers to the two versions of the one we know, though, I'm not sure.
irishmaestro 4 years ago
Oh that passion of Christ! What would drive the Son of God eternal to subject Himself to the humiliating yet all vicarious and efficatious death of the cross! What eternal pathos and love! What Unsearchable glory! What unending grace! And what unending judgement, pain and regret for those who believeth not!
drummerboy36 4 years ago
Belive not. It's I believe, thou believest, he/she/it believeth, we/you/they believe.
Anyway, I believe not, but it's one of the great masterpieces of all time. Like the plays of Sophocles, which also come out of a religious tradition I believe not.
gspaulsson 4 years ago
Sophocles plays - Maybe not.
AlsatianCousin 4 years ago
I like the way the view stays static, that you cant see any faces, this disinterest in editing and personality somehow makes the image more alien and therefore more like the past, somewhere we can never be, Like a painting, the other planet of history.
moment7 4 years ago
"I like the way the view stays static, that you cant see any faces, this disinterest in editing and personality somehow makes the image more alien and therefore more like the past, somewhere we can never be, Like a painting, the other planet of history." --moment7
Yes, it's like revisiting faint memories; it might also be reminiscences in the first person perspective.
richardpr986 4 years ago
Is it me or does this sound really out of tune?
elton1981 4 years ago
Remember the human vioce is tuned different(mean rather than equal tempermemnt) than than man-made instruments; also the singer(s)tends to get sharp as they sing.
drummerboy36 4 years ago
wasn't this piece written before equal temperment. Bach was all a-glee with well temperment. Am a choral singer myself so I understand about how much of a compremise keyboard instruments are.
elton1981 4 years ago
Oh *do* you? Anyone who uses the term 'a-glee' should be shoved nose first into the nearest harpsichord.
sibionic 4 years ago
yes it's called "just intonation"
elton1981 4 years ago
It make my soul dance. Danke Johan Sebatian Bach :)
bahoss 4 years ago
This interpretation the the one, I like the most. I think is's much more fluent nad melodious than Koopman interpretation. In my opinion is't more "baroque" than othes.
harpagon1 4 years ago
GGGUUUSSSTTTAAA :
É a paixão segundo mateus, escrito por bach.
espero ter respondido.
felipegama 4 years ago
Muchas Gracias ^-^
GGGUUUSSSTTTAAA 4 years ago
Muchas Gracias ^-^
GGGUUUSSSTTTAAA 4 years ago
What a passion! Music that's out of this world! My favorite recording of it is with Herreweghe. In similar ways I also love Canata BWV 4 (Easter); still trying to find a Herreweghe's recording of it. Let me know if you know it exists :-)
jimimjmji 4 years ago
What's the name of this film?
GGGUUUSSSTTTAAA 4 years ago
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
Dominguez028 4 years ago
i am an atheist but one wonders how something so wonderful was written without the intervention of a higher voice. The st matthew passion is the most sublime piece of music that i know. im a big man and it makes me cry - its beauty is magnificent and i feel privileged to know this piece - as many many dont...their loss. If anyone knows of a performance of this in the UK please let me know
eddypfunk 4 years ago
You can look up St. Martin- in -the- Fields and the Monteverdi Choir websites for their forthcoming concerts. Bach Passions are usually performed around Christmas. Good luck.
musik909 4 years ago
We're performing this in four weeks (erk!) - April 1st in Milton Keynes, Christ the Cornerstone Church, 7pm.
fayroberts 4 years ago
There are no atheists in foxholes, or Bach Chorales.
thethikboy 4 years ago 2
como se llama la pelicula
GGGUUUSSSTTTAAA 4 years ago
This choral dedication of Christians has so much to offer this seemingly ungodly world at the moment. I hope it continues, Inch Allah
Applejack70 5 years ago
Bach is my faith in God.
cronai 5 years ago
You have spoken what my heart has thought all along...
Whenever I hear Bach's music, I am in awe, and my spirit lifted up high to the light... Interesting how a few words can manifest into what I feel as well.
Thank you for your words, and hearing this music enchants me to the heaven's even higher.
godnamedsushi 5 years ago
My last post was directed towards cronai and this person's saying. "Bach is my faith in God."
godnamedsushi 5 years ago
Thank you, godnamesushi.
cronai 5 years ago