They'll never call it socialism until it's already installed. They won't say they're going to spread the wealth around, they'll just take money from your salary for all sorts of social services until you really don't have any wealth left.
@txsray1 Gawd you are ridiculously misinformed. Our country has been a socialist country since before the turn of the century!! The first steps to socialism came and went a half dozen generations ago. Get a clue!
socialism and Marxism are extremely misunderstood and underrated. "Spread the wealth" is a straw man of it and not a tantamount. "Make the commodities accessible to the people that work and not the people that lie, cheat and steal or lazily inherit it" would be a better summation.
Typical obvious banter and drivel coming from someone who over emphasizes on the obvious of Fox news while being guilty of shoving his own personal agenda and opinions towards anyone willing to view this cast. I don't normally bash people for trying to become something or have real artistic value or even try and have whatever art or information really means to anyone person. But you seem to have become so comfortable with your own personal attacks, you failed to see your own hypocrisies.
Ah conservatives... No matter how much the video they're commenting exposes the lies & BS, they'll stick to their BS as if we didn't just hear the fox news guy...
Communist -->Bloom started“We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun." YOU decide if the statement is a joke as he told Congress. I say LIE
Are u kidding...Immelt is the biggest corporate scumbag that ever lived. Didn't you hear that he recently got reimbursed by the Obama admin for lying about his opponents and helping him get elected. GE didn't have to pay one cent in taxes, and, can you believe it...the tax payers gave him billions of dollars to bail him out of his failed programs. Not to mention...BO just gave him a nice cushy job as "head of the council for jobs and competiveness" as another perk for kissing his ass.
@bhog3337 Anyone who values truth and journalistic integrity should be obsessed with Fox because what they do is a HUGE disservice to society. There are plenty of centrists, conservatives, libertarians, anarchists and liberals who despise Fox for twisting the truth and manipulating their viewers. They blur the line between news and opinion and make it impossible for their viewers to really know if what they're being told is fact or fiction.
Spreading the wealth around is what created the Middle Class to begin with. Distinctly AMERICAN. And many of the odious regulations being railed against by Business and Tea Baggers make sure we aren't poisoned slowly by tainted food and or chemicals in other products. Or lead paint. Things like that. Sure, it costs some executive a dollar out of his bonus but they don't get to hurt or kill us by making/selling harmful products. And Businesses would do that. Read history.
Salmon isn't lying or exaggerating...Obama is a socialist. He meant every word he said to "Joe the plumber" and everyting that he does NOW involves spreading the wealth and making rich people, who have worked hard, pay for all the bumbs who don't want to work and make a living for themselves.
@KEvronista FOX uncovered many things during the Obama campaign about Obama that the left-wing, drive-by media never reported, mostly b/c many of them were in bed with his administration, particularly Jeff Immelt from NBC. They did their homework even before "Joe the plumber" solidified what they already knew...b/c they did their research and reported the truth. So the only media that is lying and covering up for Obama are the drive-by's that are in bed with the administration.
@KEvronista No, Jeff Immelt didn't lie, he just never reported the truth at all...he's in bed with Obama. Not to mention he and NBC brutally attacked and lied about Obama's opponents. So, what's the difference?
you yanks seem to think that all us Europeans are Socialists - well think again..due to the rise of mass immigration most western European countries are now turning to right-wing politics..multiculturalism is the most severe of evils...don't let it happen to you too.
What kills me is the most of us needed that wealth to be spread around any fuckin way. Maybe the millions that lost their homes and jobs could've had a safety net if the rich shared in on all that money they raped out of our pockets in the first place.
what kills me is that capitalism actually depends upon spreading of the wealth. an employer pays his workers; those workers spend their pay at other establishments, those establishments pay their workers and suppliers, and so on. the ridiculous spin which wingnuts have put on this further underscores the inherent intellectual dishonesty of conservatives.
Must be the shits to sell your soul and become a puppet on a string, no longer a man just a thing. Then have to spend everry day lying for the man. Everr wonder what your wife thinks of you, or the kids thinking dad's a lier. Makes ya feel real proud. LOSER.
What really gals me is that Socialist is used as a political hatchet in America.
It's been perverted in the American psyche by the Republican party. Having certain socialist aspects of society doesn't inhibit people's ability to make money or result in some sort of 1984 style state, like most republicans would have you believe.
@floppykid Exactly floppy kid - Republicans prey on the weak minded with fear tactics, they make the dumb believe we will become Soviet America - this country will never get fixed - 25 years from now cities will have giant walls to keep out the common folks, while the politicians and the rich enjoy everything they have stolen.
@imN0Ttheone he probably said... "Or is he a socialist?" audience laughs and applauds. What else could he have said to denounce what was already clear in his statement?
I thought The US army was socialist, they always need money.
I thought Corporations were socialist, they need money too.
Thought wallstreet were socialist, they always need money.
I thought US banks needed welfare checks, the biggest welfare in the US.
Na, US peepz need nothing. Be proud to have the most jails and poverty in the most advanced country in the world. Your middle class is getting wiped out, now wake up!
your comment, such as it was, was directed at cenk, not me. i don't work for a fake news channel. i was simply telling you how i view fox. a very reasonable view, i might add.
Fox News needs to be shut down immediately. They do nothing but lie to the American people, and the sad thing is there are people out there that believe those lies.
To me Obama is scarier than Bush because people are largely silent on his war crimes.
He realizes in this political atmosphere he can bomb two or three more nations without mass demonstrations against him.
I forgot about the respectable "news" outlets Cenk's a part of! Why hasn't TYT uploaded videos of how frustrated they are that we are in the middle of yet another civil war or how Obama's rhetoric is identical to Bush's?
Oh thats right, because they are puppets for the Democrats!
this is why we love ya brudda, cause you dig and dig until you find geniune raw footage/audiotape of what you state on air, instead of using someone elses script.
1. Cenk u think MSNBC, CBS, and ABC doesn't do the same thing? U obviously don't because you're working for one of them.
2. I have listened to that clip of Obama over and over again. What do u think he means by "spreading the wealth around"? That is taking from one and giving to another. That is marxism.
3. How about all his appointees that have made outrageous socialist-like claims? Yea let's not mention that either on MSNBC, that might make the President look bad.
@KEvronista U are insane if u don't think MSNBC lies. It is so blatantly obvious that they promote a left of center agenda. A news organization doesn't promote any kind of agenda. The only agenda it should promote is the actual news.
i don't watch the channel, so i couldn't say, but i'd probably have to believe it if i had heard one of their top execs admitting to lying, like fox execs do. XD
conservatives are so oppsessed with this crap instead of trying to fix things this is all they do and they think that ppl with brains will vote for this crap in 2012 they are reaching big time.
@KEvronista The president isn't a communist, but he is certain ly a democratic socialist. How exactly is the Democratic party platform any different from political parties in europe that correctly identify themselves as democratic socialists.
@joepeeler34 He's a démocrate nothing more or less. You're still trying to make him a socialist. Anyway a lot of systems in the US are socialist. The police, military and fire department are all designed on a socialist format. Its Marxism that people should really be worried about.
trolls believe the "socialist" charge even less than fox does, so no point in letting one put you on the defensive in this matter. just remind him that fox lies, and you take the wing out of his sails.
@cgord31 Yeah, "It rocks" if you have a rock for a brain. We already have a mixed economy with much socialism and corporatism interjected. I call it the progressive-corporatist state. There is a market there, but it isn't free. The free market boogieman is kept around to be trotted out when the sins of state collectivism create crisis. Look at the results of our centrally-planned money and interest rates. Bubble after bubble. Our welfare state is about to collapse as is the warfare state.
What's bad about socialism really? Aren't you a socialist if you attend public schools, use public transport and public health care? From what I've understood, everything that amounts to shared equally for all is the essence of socialism.
Ok so he found it far fetched to begin with but now we all know it to be true
Whats your point Cenk? Is this the best you can come up with. Pretty sad state of affairs over their at Marxists Socialists Nazis Bolsheviks and Communists isnt it?
Why do any of you care if you live in a different country. Move on, worry about yours. There isn't a damn thing we as the American people can do about it. When it happens or if it happens, well we can tap on our keyboards all over again carrying on about a Obama being a socialist, OMG Americans suck, and let's all have a bash session on my people..my kids...my family and friends. That sounds like fun! God bless
Capitalism failed everyone. Republican capitalism is fascism. Conservative political philosophy force suppression to the opposition. Meanwhile cry for freedom. Their movements require severe economic and social regimentation. Republicans are not leader but dictators. Tea lickers have no moral hierarchy over others. Their constant fear is not an action, its a hesitation. Its an intense superiority complex.
These conservatives are sick. The same people who claim to be the christian party deny Jesus' wishes of feeding the poor and helping people. They are the most selfish disgusting UNchristian people I've ever seen.
fuck the entire tea party, right wing, conservatives of america. they choose to live in ignorance, create this environment of hate and separation to fullfill their agenda. fuck them, they are destroying this country and they are proud of it. we need to stand up in unity against them and shut them down. unfortunately Obama himself, the king of the castrated pussies who is the main target of their hate, refuses to stand up for himself, so why should it bother me
@jumar1281 you're absolutely right, however it has to bother you to the point you'll do something you probably didn't do in 2010...vote. the tip of the balance of the supreme court could definitely be at hand during the next 5 years & can we afford any more conservatives on that esteemed panel? i think not.
individual freedoms along with a number of other rights are on the line & are scheduled to be reviewed or decided upon by these people in the next few years. please, care enough to vote!
Having a "news" organization that just reports on what another channel is pointless. Remember lean forword is just another way of saying "stumbling" .
By the way, how do you know Americans are retarded and probably at this time in human history are sub-human? Socialism is used as an insult by Americans o O
@JBBlitz if only obama WERE the socialist you conservaturds make him out to be, i would happily re-elect him and bust my ass working for his re-election.
@EmoBoyWhoLuvsEmoGrls in a nutshell, marxism is the worker 'proletariat' class taking direct control of the means of production. i.e. the workers who work at a factory or farm would collectively own it.
Marxism is socialism as defined by Karl Marx which is the type of socialism that got used as the plan (in theory) by the soviets in Russia. All socialism (real socialism) is about more fairness through more democracy. It's about working together to get things done. Within that there are different kinds of socialism, Marxists are the ones who see history as class struggle with the minority opressing the majority which must inevitably end in a revolution and a workers state
I like when these videos come out exposing the right, but I also like it when the ones like the PBS tapes come out exposing the left... shows that everybody is just trying to push their own agendas and that you can take the "news", regardless of where it comes from, with a grain of salt
@PirateFish1: I think 24 and Family Guy are okay, too...............but let's not forget, FOX TV, and FOX News........are 2 completely different things. One actually may help you become just a little smarter every once in a while{some of the TV shows}, but the other only dumbs you down every time{they can't even get the true cause of Islamic terrorism right}, and that is...........of course, I am referring to FOX News.
@gmcjetpilot Technically speaking FOX has better cable ratings than CNN abd Msnbc but it DOES NOT have more overall viewers than both. To say that it does is completely false. If we were to do an actual study on overall viwers, NBC is still the dominant force in news as it covers a larger demographic and audience.
FOX has better ratings in cable but NOT more overall viewers. That's just utter nonsense
that’s why he won’t ally with reformist labor unions.. f*n traitors to the working class :D he rather does his share for the collapse of the capitalist system
@nilbud I don't know where to begin with offensive trolls like you. Are you an expert on Marxist thought? I've at least studied it at uni.
Anyway, like I said it's not perfect, but from my point of view the theory of surplus value etc. describes quite well how capitalist profits are generated, circulation of capital through major sectors, reinvestment in fixed capital, etc.
Bah... to complex to argue about within a 500 character limit!
@Joshua001A Fair enough. I've actually read halfwit USAians who describe the current fascist state in the US as Marxism. I though you were one of those cockpuchers claiming Corporatism is actually Marxism. So I was just pointing out what unbelieveable horseshit that was.
@nilbud ooh no, corporatism and Marxism definitely ain't the same, and Obama is nothing like a socialist given the billions in US$ tax cuts he's given to the uber-wealthy. He knows who he needs to suck up to.
The world is waaaaay too complex to be understood by a lot of those US commentators (and others) anyway, because they think too narrowly and too short term, as if a brief sound-bite shed light on anything
@Joshua001A It's the only country in the world where the poor are terrified of unions and think tax cuts for billionaires are a good idea. Closing schools, repealing child labour laws, compulsory drug tests, prison slave labour, the government permitted to tap all communications and educational standards which are a global joke. All while crying about communist muslims hiding under the bed while the chemtrails, fluoride, vaccines and HAARP kill their children not global warming, that's a myth.
@nilbud All you've done is make a narrow assumption about my views and thought processes, which proves nothing.
The economic, social and political world is complex and full of a vast interconnected network of multi-causality that operates in a non-linear fashion, and the generation and reproduction of capital exists within that context. And I think Marxism still has something to say about that, that's all I really mean.
Is that better?
Chill dude, or is that Irish recession getting to you?
@MaltaSauce Karl Marx gives a pretty specific plan of action that calls for violent revolution against the wealthy. Since we live in a democratic society all that we must do to inflict positive change is vote.
@nilbud That comment was a response to someone who asked, "WHAT THE FUCK is so wrong about MARXISM?" My response was meant to imply that violent revolution isn't really necessary in a democratic society. If a democratic society desires change, then the populous must first educate itself, then seek a course of action to impose the desired change. The need for a violent revolution in a democratic society implies that the ideas of the revolutionaries are not in congruence with the populous.
@ModerateAmerica I just said that voting for change worked out just great. It was a sarcastic remark however. Voting in the US correlates exactly with campaign funding, that would seem to imply the main political education people get is in between chunks of TV shows. In my country politicians are allowed a maximum budget of between €42000 and €53000 to get elected, still a money game but within the scope of a second mortgage or a few fundraiser events not hundreds of millions.
bill sammon says he's obama is a socialist, then says it was a bit far fetched. what a douchebag for spreading lies........ however.......... bill sammon's views right or wrong, before or after are both kinda wrong. obama has socialistic and marxist views, just look at his policies and read his books. it's kinda obvious...... but because he has some of those views i don't know if that makes him a socialist or marxist thru and thru.
@thomgray lol Bitching about how others misuse grammar or use it in negative terms and you can't even spell the word correctly. It's Pejorative. But I agree with you in general terms and believe socialism, or an American form of it, would be a good thing.
@thomgray some might call it stealing. Your social welfare states are in collapse just as in the U.S. MOney printing and borrowing won't stop it in the long run.
Why do Americans have such a fear of Socialism? I don't see how it is harmful to anyone in any way. I suppose they just have no clue as to what it actually means.
@MrBergunder Alot of people don't know what it is, but get angry when they hear it, so they have done a good job making it a bad word. You can pretty much make anything a bad word as long as everyone use it as a bad word for a long time. It's stupid to make a decision on what you think about something before you even know what it is hahah
@thegreenseven Actually you're ignorant and brainwashed that's why you shit yourself in fear when socialism is mentioned. I'm actually laughing at your ignorant cowardice. Get an education you dimwitted clown.
@MrBergunder Because instead of finding out what words and ideas really mean they would rather have things explained to them in ways that support the belief over the fact. This is how a theological organizations work.
@MrBergunder I'm not affraid of Socialism. Most progressives like the idea of Socialism. And if you watch enough young turks you know if pollers don't ask misleading or biased questions people actually answer in favor of a litlte Socialism. We are a progressive country that has alot of mega wealthy people lying to and misleading the country to get their way.
@MrBergunder Because it requires force. Because property is never owned by anyone, rather the collective. Therefor there are no property rights, only collective rights. And once something goes missing from that factory, the collective will soon find the "guilty"-whether they are guilty or not.
I'm an anarchist and reject any force whatsoever. I also believe if I put labor into virgin property, that property becomes mine. This nation was built on this principle.
@VictoryCough Nonsense! Can I come over to your house and take my share of your property then? How about my share of what's in your wallet. Oh, I see--it's o.k. when the state is the mechanism for the theft.The collective is an abstraction. Abstractions don't have rights, only individuals do This just creates conceptual chaos. I find it amusing that leftists get upset when the presiden tis properly identifies as a democratic socialist, but then post comments advocating what amounts to just that.
Marxism!!! Really people.....have Fox News ever read Karl Marx's"Capital",....It was like Marx was high when he wrote it,its bloody difficult to implement....its just and ideology and can never transform into action.....................also Marx decalred that he is not a marxist on his deathbed
Rp baby!!!!! 2012
generalmaximus53 1 month ago
When are we gonna see fox news get shut down? Seriously, someone needs to make that happen.
SuperGreenSmartie 2 months ago 7
Socialism is bullshit. Sorry.
MAOgly 2 months ago
@MAOgly Yeah just ask the more socialist countries of Europe how terrible it is :-)
nielsb90 1 month ago
@nielsb90 don't you think that the European economies are going down during last 20 years?
MAOgly 1 month ago
@MAOgly The whole world is going downhill right now, but the US at a much faster rate.. Sorry, but the US suffers the most right now..
nielsb90 1 month ago
@MAOgly so if we elect Ron Paul we can save the US
MAOgly 1 month ago
They'll never call it socialism until it's already installed. They won't say they're going to spread the wealth around, they'll just take money from your salary for all sorts of social services until you really don't have any wealth left.
txsray1 7 months ago
@txsray1 Gawd you are ridiculously misinformed. Our country has been a socialist country since before the turn of the century!! The first steps to socialism came and went a half dozen generations ago. Get a clue!
splicedenergy 7 months ago
There's nothing at all far-fetched about linking Obama to Socialism. Socialized medicine is the single biggest step toward socialism.
txsray1 7 months ago
Faux News got told again.
Sheepytown 8 months ago
Hmmmm Who owns Media Matters? George Soros?
bethjsmith1 9 months ago
socialism and Marxism are extremely misunderstood and underrated. "Spread the wealth" is a straw man of it and not a tantamount. "Make the commodities accessible to the people that work and not the people that lie, cheat and steal or lazily inherit it" would be a better summation.
ManjixIchigo 9 months ago
Fox News is the cancer of news stations.
MrOpenGamer 10 months ago 4
Typical obvious banter and drivel coming from someone who over emphasizes on the obvious of Fox news while being guilty of shoving his own personal agenda and opinions towards anyone willing to view this cast. I don't normally bash people for trying to become something or have real artistic value or even try and have whatever art or information really means to anyone person. But you seem to have become so comfortable with your own personal attacks, you failed to see your own hypocrisies.
tsatm2011 10 months ago
The FCC should require outfits like FOX NEWS and MSNBC to append the words "Political Entertainment" into their channel names.
jbirdaspec 10 months ago
Ah conservatives... No matter how much the video they're commenting exposes the lies & BS, they'll stick to their BS as if we didn't just hear the fox news guy...
MyTemporaryAccount88 11 months ago
@MyTemporaryAccount88 when you prove them wrong they become apologetic, its the same trend they follow with religion. You can't win.
djamorpheus 8 months ago
@djamorpheus So true. Just like the republicans, they don't admit defeat, they double down.
MyTemporaryAccount88 8 months ago
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Communist -->Bloom started“We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun." YOU decide if the statement is a joke as he told Congress. I say LIE
vechorik 6 months ago
Implying news networks other than fox are honest and respectable.
wesley0a 11 months ago
John Stewart looked different when I watched this same bit on The Daily Show on my TV.
KevinADCarter 11 months ago
Are u kidding...Immelt is the biggest corporate scumbag that ever lived. Didn't you hear that he recently got reimbursed by the Obama admin for lying about his opponents and helping him get elected. GE didn't have to pay one cent in taxes, and, can you believe it...the tax payers gave him billions of dollars to bail him out of his failed programs. Not to mention...BO just gave him a nice cushy job as "head of the council for jobs and competiveness" as another perk for kissing his ass.
sandio713 11 months ago
I think I saw this bitch shineing Obamas shoes! Pussy
strokeofirish1 11 months ago
Wtf was that exec taking it back for? He spoke the truth!
strokeofirish1 11 months ago
@strokeofirish1
"He spoke the truth"
you mean his an admission to lying is a lie?! wow. one simply cannot trust anything that comes from fox. lol!
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KEvronista 11 months ago
Cenk, at the very end of the video, you should have said:
"They should spell the name to F A U X News Channel, cause that's what they do over there!"
NaziGOPBallmer 11 months ago
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Fuck TRUMP and his Poll ad to the right of this page! They mention candidates you would chose for 2012 except Ron Paul so the poll is rigged!
PsychStudent85 11 months ago
Man you liberals are more obsessed with fox news than anyone. Y'all never cease to make me laugh.
bhog3337 11 months ago
@bhog3337 Anyone who values truth and journalistic integrity should be obsessed with Fox because what they do is a HUGE disservice to society. There are plenty of centrists, conservatives, libertarians, anarchists and liberals who despise Fox for twisting the truth and manipulating their viewers. They blur the line between news and opinion and make it impossible for their viewers to really know if what they're being told is fact or fiction.
leizuoer 11 months ago
@leizuoer
Your right, MSNBC happens to be the perfect source of unbiased, non leftist news.
bhog3337 11 months ago
@bhog3337 Biased =! lies.
Skull, too thick, brain, too small,
garytcw 11 months ago
Spreading the wealth around is what created the Middle Class to begin with. Distinctly AMERICAN. And many of the odious regulations being railed against by Business and Tea Baggers make sure we aren't poisoned slowly by tainted food and or chemicals in other products. Or lead paint. Things like that. Sure, it costs some executive a dollar out of his bonus but they don't get to hurt or kill us by making/selling harmful products. And Businesses would do that. Read history.
TheSchmuckLook 11 months ago
Salmon isn't lying or exaggerating...Obama is a socialist. He meant every word he said to "Joe the plumber" and everyting that he does NOW involves spreading the wealth and making rich people, who have worked hard, pay for all the bumbs who don't want to work and make a living for themselves.
sandio713 11 months ago
@sandio713
"Salmon isn't lying"
salmon may not be, but sammon did. he even admitted to it.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
@KEvronista FOX uncovered many things during the Obama campaign about Obama that the left-wing, drive-by media never reported, mostly b/c many of them were in bed with his administration, particularly Jeff Immelt from NBC. They did their homework even before "Joe the plumber" solidified what they already knew...b/c they did their research and reported the truth. So the only media that is lying and covering up for Obama are the drive-by's that are in bed with the administration.
sandio713 11 months ago
@sandio713
i've never heard jeff immelt admit to lying on the air. i have, however, heard bill sammon do so.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
@KEvronista No, Jeff Immelt didn't lie, he just never reported the truth at all...he's in bed with Obama. Not to mention he and NBC brutally attacked and lied about Obama's opponents. So, what's the difference?
sandio713 11 months ago
@sandio713
"No, Jeff Immelt didn't lie"
bill sammon did. he even admitted to it.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
This is complete bullshit. The Tape was doctored.
Bellita1 11 months ago
you yanks seem to think that all us Europeans are Socialists - well think again..due to the rise of mass immigration most western European countries are now turning to right-wing politics..multiculturalism is the most severe of evils...don't let it happen to you too.
TigerIPanzer 11 months ago
What kills me is the most of us needed that wealth to be spread around any fuckin way. Maybe the millions that lost their homes and jobs could've had a safety net if the rich shared in on all that money they raped out of our pockets in the first place.
PyroHaven07 11 months ago
@PyroHaven07
what kills me is that capitalism actually depends upon spreading of the wealth. an employer pays his workers; those workers spend their pay at other establishments, those establishments pay their workers and suppliers, and so on. the ridiculous spin which wingnuts have put on this further underscores the inherent intellectual dishonesty of conservatives.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
Cenk is such a simpleton, LOL He's fitting in at MSNBCunt very well, but that's no surprise !
hobo59 11 months ago
jigs up, fox news.lol.
niceprofile35 11 months ago
So sense then we believe even more Obama is a socialist.
quizerry 11 months ago
Must be the shits to sell your soul and become a puppet on a string, no longer a man just a thing. Then have to spend everry day lying for the man. Everr wonder what your wife thinks of you, or the kids thinking dad's a lier. Makes ya feel real proud. LOSER.
TheImpeacher 11 months ago
@SweetCash33
What really gals me is that Socialist is used as a political hatchet in America.
It's been perverted in the American psyche by the Republican party. Having certain socialist aspects of society doesn't inhibit people's ability to make money or result in some sort of 1984 style state, like most republicans would have you believe.
floppykid 11 months ago
@floppykid Exactly floppy kid - Republicans prey on the weak minded with fear tactics, they make the dumb believe we will become Soviet America - this country will never get fixed - 25 years from now cities will have giant walls to keep out the common folks, while the politicians and the rich enjoy everything they have stolen.
SweetCash33 11 months ago
Too bad they didnt post the next sentence , but that would have ruined the story i guess .
imN0Ttheone 11 months ago
@imN0Ttheone he probably said... "Or is he a socialist?" audience laughs and applauds. What else could he have said to denounce what was already clear in his statement?
alecton 11 months ago
I thought it was already 'FAUX NEWS'.but with a guy with a name like 'Bill O Liary',what did we expect
scotsmaninusa 11 months ago
I thought The US army was socialist, they always need money.
I thought Corporations were socialist, they need money too.
Thought wallstreet were socialist, they always need money.
I thought US banks needed welfare checks, the biggest welfare in the US.
Na, US peepz need nothing. Be proud to have the most jails and poverty in the most advanced country in the world. Your middle class is getting wiped out, now wake up!
unpredictable420 11 months ago
Don't call one organization a "fake news" channel while working for a "fake news" channel Cenk.
gamingeagle19 11 months ago
@gamingeagle19
"Don't call one organization a 'fake news' channel"
i call fox an "admitted liar" channel.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
@KEvronista "signing" your name doesn't make you smarter or any more credible. And nice job ignoring the rest of my comment.
gamingeagle19 11 months ago
@gamingeagle19
"nice job"
i get that a lot.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
@gamingeagle19
"the rest of my comment"
your comment, such as it was, was directed at cenk, not me. i don't work for a fake news channel. i was simply telling you how i view fox. a very reasonable view, i might add.
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KEvronista 11 months ago
Yeah.
frankblankenship1 11 months ago
Fox News needs to be shut down immediately. They do nothing but lie to the American people, and the sad thing is there are people out there that believe those lies.
WatchListen2Me 11 months ago
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Obama is a criminal with a satanic smell of corruption.
deathtrapdeath 11 months ago
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To me Obama is scarier than Bush because people are largely silent on his war crimes.
He realizes in this political atmosphere he can bomb two or three more nations without mass demonstrations against him.
I forgot about the respectable "news" outlets Cenk's a part of! Why hasn't TYT uploaded videos of how frustrated they are that we are in the middle of yet another civil war or how Obama's rhetoric is identical to Bush's?
Oh thats right, because they are puppets for the Democrats!
VictoryCough 11 months ago
this is why we love ya brudda, cause you dig and dig until you find geniune raw footage/audiotape of what you state on air, instead of using someone elses script.
fram4153 11 months ago 26
@fram4153 uh... he got this from mediamatters who received the audio tape
djamorpheus 8 months ago
1. Cenk u think MSNBC, CBS, and ABC doesn't do the same thing? U obviously don't because you're working for one of them.
2. I have listened to that clip of Obama over and over again. What do u think he means by "spreading the wealth around"? That is taking from one and giving to another. That is marxism.
3. How about all his appointees that have made outrageous socialist-like claims? Yea let's not mention that either on MSNBC, that might make the President look bad.
bRizzle2009100 11 months ago
@bRizzle2009100
1. fox lies.
2. fox lies.
3. fox lies.
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago
@KEvronista And the other networks don't right? They're all perfect and FOX News is the only one that does it right?
bRizzle2009100 11 months ago
@bRizzle2009100
"other networks don't, right?"
i couldnt say, i've only heard admissions in the matter from fox execs. lol!
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago 8
@KEvronista U are insane if u don't think MSNBC lies. It is so blatantly obvious that they promote a left of center agenda. A news organization doesn't promote any kind of agenda. The only agenda it should promote is the actual news.
bRizzle2009100 11 months ago
@bRizzle2009100
"if u don't think MSNBC lies"
i don't watch the channel, so i couldn't say, but i'd probably have to believe it if i had heard one of their top execs admitting to lying, like fox execs do. XD
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago
i dare that rat-faced jeff flock to ever go on-air in public again.
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago 2
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@KEvronista "i dare that rat-faced jeff flock to ever go on-air in public again."
What are you going to do, send him a mean message?
VictoryCough 11 months ago
conservatives are so oppsessed with this crap instead of trying to fix things this is all they do and they think that ppl with brains will vote for this crap in 2012 they are reaching big time.
Clown4740 11 months ago
conservatives can't go more'n ten words without letting slip some dishonesty.
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago
@KEvronista The president isn't a communist, but he is certain ly a democratic socialist. How exactly is the Democratic party platform any different from political parties in europe that correctly identify themselves as democratic socialists.
joepeeler34 11 months ago
@joepeeler34
....okay, twelve words. lol!
and now for some liberal honesty: fox lies.
see? just two words is all it took.
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago
@joepeeler34 He's a démocrate nothing more or less. You're still trying to make him a socialist. Anyway a lot of systems in the US are socialist. The police, military and fire department are all designed on a socialist format. Its Marxism that people should really be worried about.
crazziii 11 months ago
@crazziii
trolls believe the "socialist" charge even less than fox does, so no point in letting one put you on the defensive in this matter. just remind him that fox lies, and you take the wing out of his sails.
KEvron
KEvronista 11 months ago
Socialism Rocks! Figure it out America
cgord31 11 months ago
@cgord31 Yeah, "It rocks" if you have a rock for a brain. We already have a mixed economy with much socialism and corporatism interjected. I call it the progressive-corporatist state. There is a market there, but it isn't free. The free market boogieman is kept around to be trotted out when the sins of state collectivism create crisis. Look at the results of our centrally-planned money and interest rates. Bubble after bubble. Our welfare state is about to collapse as is the warfare state.
joepeeler34 11 months ago
MSNBC and TYT watchers are idiot loons that hate the Country. Truth hurts I know, deal with it libs.
cam1126 11 months ago
@cam1126 Whats to like? Douche bag
cgord31 11 months ago
Ever notice the people who scream the most about Socialism are anti-Social?
SpitfireOFatj 11 months ago
This just in: Fox News Loves Cenk Uygur.
EatTinker 11 months ago
Well as a Communist/Socialist, Obama is no Marxist/socialist/communist comrade. PERIOD!!!
lapiz4azulli 11 months ago
What's bad about socialism really? Aren't you a socialist if you attend public schools, use public transport and public health care? From what I've understood, everything that amounts to shared equally for all is the essence of socialism.
InSaneTK 11 months ago
Where's the Meditarrean?
singtopher 11 months ago
@singtopher "Where's the Meditarrean?"
Off meditating.
SpitfireOFatj 11 months ago
Ok so he found it far fetched to begin with but now we all know it to be true
Whats your point Cenk? Is this the best you can come up with. Pretty sad state of affairs over their at Marxists Socialists Nazis Bolsheviks and Communists isnt it?
DeathKorps94 11 months ago
@DeathKorps94 "Ok so he found it far fetched to begin with but now we all know it to be true"
Only those who watch FOX "News". The vast majority of Americans know he's doing all he can to cover up for Republicans, Big Oil and Wall Street.
SpitfireOFatj 11 months ago
@SpitfireOFatj lol you keep your head good and deep in Chairman Mao's little red book
DeathKorps94 11 months ago
@DeathKorps94 The really funny thing is you probably have a house full of stuff made in China.
SpitfireOFatj 11 months ago
@SpitfireOFatj News flash who doesn't?m Do you have a point here?
DeathKorps94 11 months ago
Why do any of you care if you live in a different country. Move on, worry about yours. There isn't a damn thing we as the American people can do about it. When it happens or if it happens, well we can tap on our keyboards all over again carrying on about a Obama being a socialist, OMG Americans suck, and let's all have a bash session on my people..my kids...my family and friends. That sounds like fun! God bless
nalaninani 11 months ago
The irony is Fox News is 100% behind a nationalist socialist agenda to redistribution the wealth to the top 2%.
337noname 11 months ago
Capitalism failed everyone. Republican capitalism is fascism. Conservative political philosophy force suppression to the opposition. Meanwhile cry for freedom. Their movements require severe economic and social regimentation. Republicans are not leader but dictators. Tea lickers have no moral hierarchy over others. Their constant fear is not an action, its a hesitation. Its an intense superiority complex.
humanisall 11 months ago
white entertainment television W.E.T
TheConn23 11 months ago
These conservatives are sick. The same people who claim to be the christian party deny Jesus' wishes of feeding the poor and helping people. They are the most selfish disgusting UNchristian people I've ever seen.
Teremei 11 months ago
fuck the entire tea party, right wing, conservatives of america. they choose to live in ignorance, create this environment of hate and separation to fullfill their agenda. fuck them, they are destroying this country and they are proud of it. we need to stand up in unity against them and shut them down. unfortunately Obama himself, the king of the castrated pussies who is the main target of their hate, refuses to stand up for himself, so why should it bother me
jumar1281 11 months ago
@jumar1281 you're absolutely right, however it has to bother you to the point you'll do something you probably didn't do in 2010...vote. the tip of the balance of the supreme court could definitely be at hand during the next 5 years & can we afford any more conservatives on that esteemed panel? i think not.
individual freedoms along with a number of other rights are on the line & are scheduled to be reviewed or decided upon by these people in the next few years. please, care enough to vote!
wntoply6 11 months ago
Beep boop, tea bagging, self centered, and on and on..... Now that's ignorance at it's best.
nalaninani 11 months ago
Having a "news" organization that just reports on what another channel is pointless. Remember lean forword is just another way of saying "stumbling" .
TheStrazy 11 months ago
We (Americans) do know we are being lied to, What do you suppose we do? REALLY??? I invite you to logically answer that
nalaninani 11 months ago
wow, Fox, way to go!
JCiznum1 11 months ago
I'm not even american and this makes me so fucking angry ARGH why cant the american people realise they're being lied to?!?
A736staz 11 months ago
Obama is a socialist. What is the problem?
CommonSenseJoe 11 months ago
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nietzscheprime 11 months ago
By the way, how do you know Americans are retarded and probably at this time in human history are sub-human? Socialism is used as an insult by Americans o O
nietzscheprime 11 months ago
@nietzscheprime THANK YOU. I've alway said teabaggers are too fucking stupid to qualify as 'human".
TheChuchulainn 11 months ago
Obama would be doing more of the socialist legislation if the GOP did not take the house.
JBBlitz 11 months ago
@JBBlitz if only obama WERE the socialist you conservaturds make him out to be, i would happily re-elect him and bust my ass working for his re-election.
theivangrozhny2010 11 months ago
Great Bill Sammon, what you don't realize is that your audience is stupid beyond reason
nietzscheprime 11 months ago
Whats Marxism or being a Marxist ? Can someone define it cause I cant find a simple and dumbed down definition.
EmoBoyWhoLuvsEmoGrls 11 months ago
@EmoBoyWhoLuvsEmoGrls in a nutshell, marxism is the worker 'proletariat' class taking direct control of the means of production. i.e. the workers who work at a factory or farm would collectively own it.
BVargas78 11 months ago
@EmoBoyWhoLuvsEmoGrls
Marxism is socialism as defined by Karl Marx which is the type of socialism that got used as the plan (in theory) by the soviets in Russia. All socialism (real socialism) is about more fairness through more democracy. It's about working together to get things done. Within that there are different kinds of socialism, Marxists are the ones who see history as class struggle with the minority opressing the majority which must inevitably end in a revolution and a workers state
tangent272 11 months ago
I like when these videos come out exposing the right, but I also like it when the ones like the PBS tapes come out exposing the left... shows that everybody is just trying to push their own agendas and that you can take the "news", regardless of where it comes from, with a grain of salt
countryquarterback 11 months ago
FOX lies?
STOP THE PRESSES!!
DillonDee1 11 months ago
obama is the best republican ever !
Caboose3012 11 months ago
If it wasn't for The Simpsons I'd have no use for any Fox TV, at all.
PirateFish1 11 months ago
@PirateFish1: I think 24 and Family Guy are okay, too...............but let's not forget, FOX TV, and FOX News........are 2 completely different things. One actually may help you become just a little smarter every once in a while{some of the TV shows}, but the other only dumbs you down every time{they can't even get the true cause of Islamic terrorism right}, and that is...........of course, I am referring to FOX News.
MiracleMile90 11 months ago
@gmcjetpilot Technically speaking FOX has better cable ratings than CNN abd Msnbc but it DOES NOT have more overall viewers than both. To say that it does is completely false. If we were to do an actual study on overall viwers, NBC is still the dominant force in news as it covers a larger demographic and audience.
FOX has better ratings in cable but NOT more overall viewers. That's just utter nonsense
uchihaangelus 11 months ago
I'd love to see CNN news anchors faces when they see Cenk ripping fox a new one every show
2edsajdmsa 11 months ago
of course he is a revolutionary marxist.
that’s why he won’t ally with reformist labor unions.. f*n traitors to the working class :D he rather does his share for the collapse of the capitalist system
crizGer 11 months ago
IMPEACH OBAMAS BITCH ASS!!
DarkHempKnight420 11 months ago
Fox News lied? Nahhhhh. Them? Never.
lemonofdoom22 11 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK is so wrong about MARXISM?
MaltaSauce 11 months ago
@MaltaSauce Nothing, although of course it's not perfect. It's just that it's misunderstood by the masses.
I can't think of a theory that better describes the source of capitalist profits.
Joshua001A 11 months ago
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nilbud 11 months ago
@nilbud I don't know where to begin with offensive trolls like you. Are you an expert on Marxist thought? I've at least studied it at uni.
Anyway, like I said it's not perfect, but from my point of view the theory of surplus value etc. describes quite well how capitalist profits are generated, circulation of capital through major sectors, reinvestment in fixed capital, etc.
Bah... to complex to argue about within a 500 character limit!
Why are you so rude? I've done nothing to you.
Joshua001A 11 months ago
@Joshua001A Fair enough. I've actually read halfwit USAians who describe the current fascist state in the US as Marxism. I though you were one of those cockpuchers claiming Corporatism is actually Marxism. So I was just pointing out what unbelieveable horseshit that was.
nilbud 11 months ago
@nilbud ooh no, corporatism and Marxism definitely ain't the same, and Obama is nothing like a socialist given the billions in US$ tax cuts he's given to the uber-wealthy. He knows who he needs to suck up to.
The world is waaaaay too complex to be understood by a lot of those US commentators (and others) anyway, because they think too narrowly and too short term, as if a brief sound-bite shed light on anything
Joshua001A 11 months ago
@Joshua001A It's the only country in the world where the poor are terrified of unions and think tax cuts for billionaires are a good idea. Closing schools, repealing child labour laws, compulsory drug tests, prison slave labour, the government permitted to tap all communications and educational standards which are a global joke. All while crying about communist muslims hiding under the bed while the chemtrails, fluoride, vaccines and HAARP kill their children not global warming, that's a myth.
nilbud 11 months ago
@nilbud All you've done is make a narrow assumption about my views and thought processes, which proves nothing.
The economic, social and political world is complex and full of a vast interconnected network of multi-causality that operates in a non-linear fashion, and the generation and reproduction of capital exists within that context. And I think Marxism still has something to say about that, that's all I really mean.
Is that better?
Chill dude, or is that Irish recession getting to you?
Joshua001A 11 months ago
@Joshua001A Yeah yeah calm down I explained it was mistaken identity, no need to go all Mel Gibson on me ;)
nilbud 11 months ago
@MaltaSauce Karl Marx gives a pretty specific plan of action that calls for violent revolution against the wealthy. Since we live in a democratic society all that we must do to inflict positive change is vote.
ModerateAmerica 11 months ago
@ModerateAmerica Yeah, that worked out perfectly. You really don't get it.
nilbud 11 months ago
@nilbud That comment was a response to someone who asked, "WHAT THE FUCK is so wrong about MARXISM?" My response was meant to imply that violent revolution isn't really necessary in a democratic society. If a democratic society desires change, then the populous must first educate itself, then seek a course of action to impose the desired change. The need for a violent revolution in a democratic society implies that the ideas of the revolutionaries are not in congruence with the populous.
ModerateAmerica 11 months ago
@nilbud
So you decided patronizing those who don't understand your position is the best way to convince them your right?
Your right I don't get it, enlighten me!
ModerateAmerica 10 months ago
@ModerateAmerica I just said that voting for change worked out just great. It was a sarcastic remark however. Voting in the US correlates exactly with campaign funding, that would seem to imply the main political education people get is in between chunks of TV shows. In my country politicians are allowed a maximum budget of between €42000 and €53000 to get elected, still a money game but within the scope of a second mortgage or a few fundraiser events not hundreds of millions.
nilbud 10 months ago
political marxism isn't much of a worry..... however.......
cultural marxism is....... check out antonio gramsci's prison notebooks...
thegreenseven 11 months ago
Good ol' fashioned McCarthyism.
gagaplex 11 months ago 2
bill sammon says he's obama is a socialist, then says it was a bit far fetched. what a douchebag for spreading lies........ however.......... bill sammon's views right or wrong, before or after are both kinda wrong. obama has socialistic and marxist views, just look at his policies and read his books. it's kinda obvious...... but because he has some of those views i don't know if that makes him a socialist or marxist thru and thru.
thegreenseven 11 months ago
THERE'S A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
UM, COMMUNIST,! UM SOCIALIST! , UH TERRORIST! UH, DEAD BABIES!
HE'S A COMIN FER YER GUNS! RUN!!!!!!!!
ilovebaconsandwiches 11 months ago 4
FAUX NEWS - WE DECEIVE, YOU BELIEVE.
eldridgepaul 11 months ago 5
I can't believe 'spreading the wealth' is a perjorative concept in the States. So glad I live in Europe.
thomgray 11 months ago 22
@thomgray: If it wasn't for McCarthyism in the '50s...............it might not be such. =(
MiracleMile90 11 months ago
@thomgray because americans are selfish,spoiled, self-absorbed, and self-centered. and contented to be
theivangrozhny2010 11 months ago
@theivangrozhny2010 I'm a independent progressive socialist, I'm an American. Therefore you are wrong.
TheUSMetalhead 11 months ago
@thomgray lol Bitching about how others misuse grammar or use it in negative terms and you can't even spell the word correctly. It's Pejorative. But I agree with you in general terms and believe socialism, or an American form of it, would be a good thing.
TheUSMetalhead 11 months ago
@TheUSMetalhead so it is, I was convinced its etymology had roots in "perjure', but clearly not
thomgray 11 months ago
@thomgray do u mean europe or fucking afghanistan ? which is wer u really are
harj2009 11 months ago
@thomgray some might call it stealing. Your social welfare states are in collapse just as in the U.S. MOney printing and borrowing won't stop it in the long run.
joepeeler34 11 months ago
falcon punch from Cenk!
DrakeMagnum 11 months ago
FOX News should be called Weasel News! GTA4 i luv u!
Manuellaborer 11 months ago 3
Why do Americans have such a fear of Socialism? I don't see how it is harmful to anyone in any way. I suppose they just have no clue as to what it actually means.
MrBergunder 11 months ago 34
@MrBergunder Alot of people don't know what it is, but get angry when they hear it, so they have done a good job making it a bad word. You can pretty much make anything a bad word as long as everyone use it as a bad word for a long time. It's stupid to make a decision on what you think about something before you even know what it is hahah
trapedd 11 months ago
@MrBergunder
you don't have a fear of socialism because you don't know the history of it and what has resulted.
thegreenseven 11 months ago
@thegreenseven Actually you're ignorant and brainwashed that's why you shit yourself in fear when socialism is mentioned. I'm actually laughing at your ignorant cowardice. Get an education you dimwitted clown.
nilbud 11 months ago
@MrBergunder
This is what Americans actually believe:
Capitalism > liberalism = social liberalism = socialism = communism
HailTheLulz 11 months ago
@MrBergunder Because instead of finding out what words and ideas really mean they would rather have things explained to them in ways that support the belief over the fact. This is how a theological organizations work.
Richardisdorky 11 months ago
@Richardisdorky Its called Argumentum ad Populum. Its a logical fallacy used in politics that is so old the Romans actually had a name for it.
ModerateAmerica 11 months ago
@MrBergunder I'm not affraid of Socialism. Most progressives like the idea of Socialism. And if you watch enough young turks you know if pollers don't ask misleading or biased questions people actually answer in favor of a litlte Socialism. We are a progressive country that has alot of mega wealthy people lying to and misleading the country to get their way.
Teremei 11 months ago
@MrBergunder Cold war i guess
dunndudebemelol 11 months ago
@MrBergunder Because it requires force. Because property is never owned by anyone, rather the collective. Therefor there are no property rights, only collective rights. And once something goes missing from that factory, the collective will soon find the "guilty"-whether they are guilty or not.
I'm an anarchist and reject any force whatsoever. I also believe if I put labor into virgin property, that property becomes mine. This nation was built on this principle.
VictoryCough 11 months ago
@VictoryCough Nonsense! Can I come over to your house and take my share of your property then? How about my share of what's in your wallet. Oh, I see--it's o.k. when the state is the mechanism for the theft.The collective is an abstraction. Abstractions don't have rights, only individuals do This just creates conceptual chaos. I find it amusing that leftists get upset when the presiden tis properly identifies as a democratic socialist, but then post comments advocating what amounts to just that.
joepeeler34 11 months ago
@joepeeler34 I was explaining why I have such a "fear" of socialism.
Being a Rothbardian Anarchist I am probably much closer to your political beliefs.
I should have specified which comment I was replying to, sorry.
VictoryCough 11 months ago
FAUX NEWS
hd92122 11 months ago
Marxism!!! Really people.....have Fox News ever read Karl Marx's"Capital",....It was like Marx was high when he wrote it,its bloody difficult to implement....its just and ideology and can never transform into action.....................also Marx decalred that he is not a marxist on his deathbed
lordloudmouth2020 11 months ago